Email of the Day
By John Amato Saturday Jun 30, 2007 2:59pmvia Nonny Mouse in the UK:
BBC is remarking on how calm the public was during the 'car bomb' attack on the Glasgow airport, how little panic or 'terror' there was - mostly just people whipping out their mobile phone cameras and filming everything in sight.
Arrests made on the M6 motorway in Cheshire last night as well. People got out of cars and offered to HELP the police.
Glasgow Airport is back up and running, passengers being interviewed coming off planes have said things are running smoothly, no problems. A bit of a hassle walking around the cordoned off bits of the airport, but no one's complaining. Lots of smiling faces.
It's almost psychology in reverse - the more fanatics try to terrorise the British, the more the British refuse to be terrorised. We're more worried about the goddamned rain at the moment.
The Brits are coooool.
It's nice to see that the British reputation for sang-froid in the face of threats is not dead. The Noble Breed ain't gone yet.
Face it, America is a fear junkie and needs an intervention
--WKW
brits are way cooooool
The difference is that they don't have a fear mongering administration and media that is the mouthpiece for them. Thre is a better chance of being hit by lightning than being hit by a terrorist.
They must not have Fox News yelling "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" over there.
I feel proud to be know my ancestors were Englishmen.
It is evident that the Brits do not have a reich-wing MSM that is driven by fear and hate.
Cheers!
the more fanatics try to terrorise the British, the more the British refuse to be terrorised.
Which Fantatics? The British Media or the Terror Guys?
Worse food, bad weather, mary fucking poppins...
Perhaps they should thank their educational system. Only an ignoramus would fear what these ignoramuses did. These terrorists didn’t even attend Terrorism 101. That or they’ve been watching too much “24”. Gasoline, pffft.
Dr. Matt @ 8:
Yes they do.
The US "government" uses every opportunity to instill fear into the populace. Here, these incidents are reported as if the goddamn London "bomb" cars (essentially autos with extra large accessory fuel tanks on board), and this latest Glasgow incident could have created an Argameddon of epic proportions.
Probably the Brits are so "cool" about all this is due to the fact that their government (and I am no fan of blair - bush's poodle) doesn't overhype every little incident as if it were equivalent to a nuclear holocaust.
The US is in the predicament it is in largely because bush/cheney and the right-wing-owned media wants us to be there - and fear keeps us there.
"Be afraid, be very afraid..."
...meanwhile we have dogs and guns out full force at our airports. Code Orange security level. And they are still x-raying our flip-flops and counting on us to tell them if we are packing any dangerous liquids. And delays and missed flights.
I travelled through Britain, France and Italy in the late 70s. The IRA was bombing London and the Red Brigades were bombing, kidnapping and assassinating businessmen and politicians in Italy. The Baader-Meinhof Gang was active in Germany.
And life went on. There were lots of police in the airports and city centres, carabinieri with automatic rifles patrolled the streets of Rome - but there was no hysteria. The streets, cafes, museums and historic churches were filled with people.
Terrorism is not new. Europeans know this, and they know that terrorists win when they force you to live in fear.
The British seem to be more attuned to actual risk and threats - they've had some real ones such as during WWII during the bombings. We Americans have no clue about risk, not really having experienced it on a countrywide basis, so we are afraid of boogeymen around every corner. And partly because our media preys on these fears.
Bush, Cheny and Gonzales wouldn't last a day in GB.
One of the comparisons I have always wondered about seems to be playing out again. The Brits had bombs falling on their capital city so they sent their children into the country to keep them safe. We had the possibility of bombs falling, so we rounded up thousands of our citizens and put them in cages.
It seems to me that Americans default reaction to fear is racism. I wonder why that is.
I still don't think it's a "terrorist" attack. They might have a stiff upper lip, but the government's stilll using it as an excuse to up surveillance and give the police more power. Show me it was actually something terrorist-related first insted of blowing up all the evidence for "our own good"
Have we found out what paris Hilton thinks about this yet? Americans want to know!!!!!
Whenever I read of the differences between the American media-driven hysteria and the British 'bah-whatever' attitude, I am reminded of this sketch:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TjC3R6jOtUo
It holds true in the news almost as well as it holds in film.
They use CCTV everywhere.
Bush Bites @ 6:
Actually we do, though, no one watches it, except for a little comic relief
If only my fellow citizens had the same sang froid. Well, I guess some of them do, and some of those are here. ^)
what a fraud. plot is foiled but now we are being terrorized by media into submission. This is the only way Bush & co know how to control herd. Yes, the do see as sheeps.
Seeing all the time spent on the recent London/Glasgow incident. I was wondering has there ever been a cost-benefit analysis done on protecting U.S. from terrorism versus the destruction caused by stupidity and greed?
The Tahoe fire started by an illegal camp fire. Earlier the destruction of a freeway overpass in Oakland due to gasoline truck driven at excessive speed.
There's talk of closing a LA hospital that had over 40K emergency room patients last year.
Why should I be more concerned about "terrorists" acts in another country that are no worse than done by local idiots?
There's an enormous contrast between even CNN International's coverage of the Glasgow car fire and that of the BBC. This afternoon there was the spectacle of CNN cutting in to their normal programming (Jon Stewart's Daily Show Global Edition) to proclaim amid their Breaking News fanfare that... yes... the suspect being held by the place is ... still in the hospital. Wow!
Even the news anchor seemed mystified why this was considered Breaking news. Or maybe it was just a way of ruining the Daily Show's sequence lampooning the Bush Administration. CNN International's coverage returned to normal programming just in time for Wolf Blitzer's Late Edition, with the CNN correspondent reporting from the streets of London solemnly claiming (without telling us how he knew this) that the whole of Britain was now terrified.
Meanwhile BBC News was reporting the poor performance of British tennis players at Wimbledon. Get a grip, America!
Hey, like Moore said in Sicko, the British put up with a 9/11 evry day during the Blitz. We're pussies compared to these dudes.
America: land of the not-so free, home of the not-so brave.
Oh my. A bit of a surprise to see my email up as a post. But it's true - by and large the Brits are just not too terribly shaken up by any of it. (Blair is gone, by the way - Gordon is 'our' new Prime Minister). The security alert has been raised, and the public, including at airports, are being slightly more inconvenienced than usual. But these guys were no more 'al Qaeda' than Bugs Bunny. And Bugs would have done a better job of it. And used some crappy scrapheap car instead of a perfectly good Cherokee Jeep - which pisses the hell out of me right now (my car's dead, needs new distributor, reduced to trying to get one off eBay...)
But the Brits (and the French, and - because I've lived in both countries most of my adult life - me) have had a long experience with terrorism long before 'al Qaeda' became synonymous with ANY terrorist attack these days. I can remember being on the Tube with my ex in the late '80's, doors open, transit cops are telling people to stay on the train, don't get off, the station is being evacuated, doors close. Train trundles off down the tracks. No panic, no reaction, no one says anything for a very long moment, before - because I have this idiot streak in me - I turn to my ex and in a loud, psuedo-Jewish American voice say, 'Next yeah, we're goin' ta Syria. It's SAFE-ah!' Whereupon everyone in our carriage cracks up laughing, and that's it.
The UK government is deeply flawed. But the British people are some of the best, smartest and sanest in the world. I'm truly sorry to be leaving this country, I'll miss it.
The Wanderer @ 2:
Indeed. It didn't work during WWII when entire cities were leveled - it sure as HELL ain't gonna work now with a few crazies with car bombs.
*Sigh* What ever happened to our Home of the Brave here in America? We were not always so quick to panic ourselves.
Meanwhile the Giuliani speech writers have about 80 hours worth to fear-mongering content from this story.
Bush referred to al Qaida at least 27 times last week, Bush is the biggest terrorist in the world!
Too bad the British can't stop their government from committing war crimes. If they don't like being the targets of violence, stop perpetrating violence.
ACanuck said:
"Terrorism is not new. Europeans know this, and they know that terrorists win when they force you to live in fear"
Exactly, just like Europeans won't be pushed around when it comes to labor disputes and or benefits for a living wage, along with health care...they get out in force and just shut the whole works down, and then they get what is due. I have no idea why there has been this "rebel" mythology concerning the American persona, typically viewed through the eyes of the rest of the world, I would think that myth has finally died. We have (as a society in general) allowed our government and the corporatist MSM to entrap us in endless consumerism and useless trivia, all the while making us completely expectant and dependent on what ever direction they would like to herd. So, if frantic excessive endless fear mongering is in order, that is what will be dealt...and the American people will subserviently follow any "state" directive issued. We have become as Soviet as one could ever imagine, the Soviet regimes accomplished their goals with fear and lies, our leadership uses those basic propagandistic tools, along with the aid of our relative materialism. We have a mighty hurtle to clear at this point, as a people and a nation. We have endured many crisis, and for the most part have emerged for the better. Today we face the strongest contender to date, and as Jefferson and others had predicted, it has come from within.
we've also got rain and flooding:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6256288.stm
further to people acting cool and taking pictures - don't forget the first thing people near to the burning vehicle did was to go and help the occupants, fighting them when they realised it wasn't an accident.
when I see how we brits deal with theses kinds of issues it makes me feel so proud.
no panic no bluster we just deal with it and move on.
Keep Calm and Carry On
http://www.keepcalmandcarryon.com/
ShimSham @ 33:
How true and the MSM here in the U.S.has devoted another 100 plus hours to this
"non-story"; but it is the weekend, Paris is out of jail, Summer re-runs are on, and
apparently bush's war in Afghan and Iraq are going well, so let continue to dumbdown
the American public and totally immurge them in any scare tactics we can...
Whereas the British certainly know how to get nasty (nastier) when dealing with terrorism, and, obviously possess the normal fears we should all have about bad guys, they certainly don't turn into hysterical little babies at the first sign of a bomb. We could learn a few things from our mother country.
And indeed the best way of dealing with Al Qaeda and all forms of terrorism would be to actually "deal" with it. Learn how to live life without being constantly afraid. But then, our Bushies and their media enablers would have to find something else to do with their days.
The ultimate weapon against terrorism is to refuse to succumb to fear and reject the temptation to abandon your civil liberties.
History, my friends...HISTORY.
Many of the British living today may not have lived through the Blitz, but it is embedded in the national psyche.
Have your cities blown out from under you and you learn. You learn how to cope, and you learn what is important.
Hey, guys, not everyone in this country is scared. Good grief. It's the usual suspects who are screaming and whining not the great mass of America which is happily going about the hot dog and fireworks biz. Btw, I'm sure the Brits who lived through the Blitz would gladly trade the experience for something else so let's not go hoping for bloodshed to fire our steel. Even on 9/11, while we all watched what happened in NYC and wished we could help, there was no mass panic, except when Bush and the Congress ran like rats. But that's another story...
Spent a wonderful year in England, met Lulu and had Wayne Fontana puke on my shoes. That shows how ancient I am.
Britain Lived through decades of IRA bombings (btw IRA was sponsered quite heavily by the US irish community - but i digress), they learnt best way to beat terror is NOT be terrorised, If someone is trying to scare you into submission Dont be scared and thus dont submit!! In turn they taught the IRA the defining lesson of democracy that a ballot will get you further than a bullet.
The US has let fear over take itself, the rightwinger specially Hannity and Foxnews use terror more effectively then Al Qaida, its one thing to threaten death to get your way, its totally different when you use someone elses threats to further you own agenda.
I think we're different in our reaction to events like these because of the cultural isolation we live in. The British live in very close proximity to Europe they come in contact with different cultures. Less than 18% of Americans have passports. When a person experiences other cultures than his or her own they view the world in a different light. Threats are put in perspective. That's at least my observation, having lived in Israel, the UK and now the US. It also makes it a lot harder for the media to scare one into thinking that the world is a dangerous place and that every dark-skinned person is "gonna getcha".
Anyone who refers to "The War on Terror" is either a victim of White House and MSM fearmongering propaganda, or a criminal enabler.
This is what "The War on Terror" is really all about...
1. Creating terrorism
2. Looting the U.S. treasury
3. Destroying U.S. dominance (we're dealing with globalists)
4. Stripping Americans of their God-given Liberties
I think more Brits realize this than do Americans.
But both populations are fucked.
I almost wonder if it's inversely related to how close you are to being a "terror target." I live in Manhattan. We were obviously hit bad on 9-11, and, you know what, life goes on here just fine. We're out and about riding the subways ever day, going to
bars and restaurants and theaters and nightclubs, having a pretty good time. Yet I hear about people out in the hinterlands stockpiling supplies and living in fear of some Ay-rab coming to blow up the Wal-Mart in East Bumfuck, Alabama. And I may be misremembering, but didn't a guy in some small town somewhere actually die back in 2001 from sealing his house up airtight for fear of an anthrax attack during that whole scare? (Speaking of which, they never caught that anthrax terrorist who was sending those packages to the "liberal" media like Tom Brokaw, or to Sen. Pat Leahy, did they? Hmm, nothing suspicious about that. I'm sure it wasn't some right-wing crazy. Nah, not at all.)
Bic @ 47:
The War on Terror is similar to the War on Drugs and the War on Poverty. They are all failed propaganda tools that the Republicans use in an attempt to rally up the masses and drum up support. Strategies like these fill the void that many a republican president have in terms of political and social foresight.
It's Called "The Kid Who Cried Wolf" Syndrome
In part media, in part law enforcement, and in part top level government focus, these claim of terrorism are being spun, sensationalized and manipulated so the American public can be scared. In the end, it turns out to be less of a threat then first reported. Reminiscent of the "kid who cried wolf," the British and American over focus on keeping their citizens scared are dulling their senses to a very important sensory reaction.
I recall the so-called plot to blow up plains over the Atlantic ocean promised, at first, to have arrested 24 suspects that planed to assemble very volatile chemicals on the plains they were on. To put the chemicals together in a laboratory setting is a very careful and difficult task; you can only imagine how difficult it would of been trying to put the bomb together in flight. Also, the 24 suspects ended up only being 8. I guess it was not so widespread as first reported and next to very difficult putting the bombs together without possibly bringing attention to their activities.
Then there was the recently discovered plot to blow up an airport via fuel pipelines. That turned out to be next to impossible to because of the shutoff valves in the pipeline system. This was also brought to our attention by the father of a fox news reporter. How creditable can that be? Fox news does not report news; they create it. Like the first noted attempt, something was questionable about the "the thing that goes Boom."
Present day, two very expensive Mercedes cars were loaded with gas, cylinders, propane tanks and nails. One car was found at night, but was diffused by a policeman who took the rag out of the cylinder. He was very technically trained. From what I gathered about the second car, it was found after being towed to the towing lot. The car only contained the materials to built the bomb, so to diffuse that scenario you would have to first built the god dam bomb. Spend all that money for two cars, but they did not spend ten dollars for the bomb itself. You can't go big boom unless you spend big boom money. This does not make any sense at all.
The point is simple, the media and government lies too much to keep are attention and make us scared. Now the public is truly suspect of any bombing plot these folks uncover. It is going to take time and a new presidents to built the respect they loss.
Joseph
Now the public is truly suspect of any bombing plot these folks uncover.
Joseph
July 1st, 2007 at 2:18 PM - PDT
I agree. I think that's why most people responded by pulling out their phone cameras.
drshatterhand @ 29:
I'm glad someone mentioned this! The Brits have a lot more experience with terrorism in most forms than we have: Battle of Britain, IRA, Lockerby, Scotland, et al. (U.S. experience: Oklahoma City Bombing, and WTC '93 & 9/11)
But not to make light of their will to carry on, we Yanks could definitely learn some things from our older and more MATURE Anglo Cousins!
Maybe Li'l Shrub, Cheney and the gang will look and learn from the pros across the pond at just how to properly respond to threats and actual attacks. Also, maybe Americans, especially those with a GOP leaning, could learn to compose themselves a little better, instead of being scared out of their pants with every real or imagined ill wind that blows. Hats waaaaay off to the real "Home of the Brave" - Great Britain.
It really has nothing to do with people being brave, it's just that people don't see anything to fuss about. Nothing really happened. Why be scared as a result of a non-event? Now, closures as a result of these non-events, they annoy people, the bombings a couple of years back had many people incredibly frustrated with rail closures, but not very many people concerned about bombs.
Of course the british are calm about this whole thing! they have given up all their rights and personal freedoms over the last few years, and now they dont have to worry about anything, because the british govt has control of everything and will continue to keep them safe......brits arent that cool!
I'm an American who's been living in London and Belfast for the last 10 years. Over the last 3 days, both at work and hanging out with friends, only a taxi-driver and one other person even brought 'the bombs' up. When I saw how it was being reported on U.S. cable networks my mouth just dropped.
milquetoast @ 55:
You are full of crap...doubt if you know anything whatsoever of what the citizens
of England other parts of Europe have suffered thru. Get a life and read a bit
before passing judgment about something you have no clue of..
what is this crap new requirements for posting
how many of you geniuses out there think that this whole thing is a prelude to uk withdrawal from us?
i mean Iraq of course
Shit happens, looneys attack and life goes on. But here, the talking heads, and Holy (shit) Joe get into a frenzy that resembles a chinese firedrill.
"PANIC!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!! MENTALLY SLOW LOONEYS WANT TO BLOW US UP BY SETTING THEMSELVES ON FIRE!!!! GIVE UP ALL YOUR CIVIL RIGHTS. DON'T QUESTION BUSH OR CHENEY!!!!"
Seems a bit silly. The Brits have the right idea. They've been dealing with these things a lot longer, because they've been pissing off the rest of the world a lot longer.
Real life seems to have been made into 'Reel' life. The 24-hour News Networks feel they need to provide their viewing audience a thrill a minute, non-stop action broadcasting. Reporting the news has slipped into the realm of entertainment. Stories are blown up to be earth-shattering, breaking news or news alert material where every last detail is dragged on and on and examined over and over again by so-called news and political analysts.
AndyZ @ 18:
Bush, Cheney, and Gonzalez wouldn't last long in Parliamentary question period.
D @ 11:
Yeah, and we have fast food, hurricanes & wildfires, and Rush f**cking Limbaugh...not to mention a surfeit of xenophobic Ugly "Americans.
The English citizens are treating it like the non-event it is. Most real terrorism analysts said that they were not even real bombs, but cars with incendiary devices, that mostly damaged or would have damaged themselves and the drivers. The US media is getting the opportunity to avoid and not report on the real story of the week, the Bush Administrations refusal to answer the subpoena's from the senate. The English have been attacked by real bombers like the IRA since the 1970's, this is not even a terrorist attack to most British.
In 1984, the IRA tried to wipe out the entire British cabinet, the failed, but did kill and maim many - Thatcher went ahead with the next day as normal, barely mentioning the attack, even though she missed being killed by minutes. In 1991 they fired mortars at Downing Street, among many, many others. Including some not by the IRA, such as the RPG attack on MI6's HQ in London.
List of IRA attacks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_Provisional_IRA_Actions
Most people have forgotten that the Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta was one of a series of three bombings that Rudolph carried out in Atlanta that year. The people of Atlanta carried on in much the same way as the Brits then. But we had leaders then -- not fearmongers.
AndyZ @ 18:
I beg to differ. I've been to Green Bay. While it's not a red state bastion, it's conservative enough that they's last at least a while.
The USA is an island unto itself. It's is so America-centric, and juiced up on fear, I wonder how much reality is left. I'm dead serious.
Fear is the deadliest human trait. It's easily enough dispelled. It's a frame of mind you must adopt. See, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Nothing could be truer!!!!
50 Joseph Says: It’s Called “The Kid Who Cried Wolf” Syndrome
Yup. They may have shot themselves in the foot with all these phony alarms. Like ninja pizza delivery boys poised to overthrow top military installation. Or anthrax letters. Snore.
If I do see "fireworks", at this point, I'm more likely to think they are CIA than anything else.
Besides, this administration has already demonstrated how cheap life is. Collateral damage, extraordinary rendition, gulags, "the one-car-bomb a day" (not near Crawford mind you), erosion of civil liberties, etc., etc. Life is CHEAP. That is unless, of course, you are a stem cell, or fetus, or wayward sperm. If you're Iraqi you may as well paint a target on your forehead. (And let's not forget, Bush invited it: "Bring 'em on!")
It’s almost psychology in reverse - the more fanatics try to terrorise the British, the more the British refuse to be terrorised. We’re more worried about the goddamned rain at the moment.
The British endured The Blitz as well as years of IRA mayhem. Make no mistake, these are tough people, made so by years of war and terrorist attacks right at their doorstep. Americans should take a lesson from them.
Canadian Observer @ 62:
Sports are the worst. They have 8 guys non-stop talking over each other and dazzling lights. If you watch English coverage, there is silence while they play. One time (I was watching), one guy calmly said, "look how they move up the field like a Roman legion" (the end); educated too.
Fear is the deadliest human trait. It's easily enough dispelled. It's a frame of mind you must adopt. See, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." Nothing could be truer!!!!
Yes fear is easily dispelled, if we had real leaders who actually wanted to alleviate the peoples' fears. Alas, that's not what they want to do. You've got Rudy running around the country going "TERROR, TERROR, TERROR! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE UNLESS YOU ELECT ME PRESIDENT! "9/11,9/11,9/11! DID I MENTION I WAS MAYOR OF NY DURING 9/11??!!" You've got Bush and Cheney pretty much saying that, after completely demolishing Iraq, now we're gonna have to bomb Iran because they're gonna nuke us, someday, maybe. Our so called "liberal" media with it's obsession with all fear, all the time (except when there's a juicy Paris Hilton story to run, of course). We've got a lot of politicians and corporations making on ton of hay off the idea of murderous brown people. Fear has become a profitable business (just ask Rudy - the so called "Security Consultant")
gene214 @ 74:
Gene, I totally agree. The MSM and your leaders are addicted to fear-mongering. It's disgusting. It seels product. Michael Moore does a bit on that in one of his movies. Killer bees, anthrax, it never ends. Fear sells. People take notice. They have to stop buying it. Turn off the TV even. The hype of American broadcasting is bizzare, but maybe many haven't seen "normal type" broadcasting, only breaking news flashes? "We're gonna die, your gonna die, run for your life." Ha ha ha. Snore.
Gene214,
Exactly. Cheney, Bush, Rove & Co. certainly don't act like victims of 9/11.
Do you recall what happened to the sheep that the boy who cried wolf was taking care of?
"Land of Hope and Glory." Then (WWII) and now. I'm proud to say I'm from British stock. Winnie would be proud!!!
Cailte @ 67:
More like, "because the man was Caucasian and not from Middle Eastern decent". It's easier to scare people when the terrorists share the same facial features with a minority group that can be easily identified by their skin color as opposed to looking like your next door neighbor.
Fear mongering is greatly helped by ignorance. Humans naturally fear the unfamiliar. It's easier to get the masses to fear Middle Eastern looking people, than to fear people that look and behave like them. Throw in a few stereotypes like "cave dwellers", "rude", "loud", "crude" and you've got a perfect recipe for xenophobia.
Who is afraid of the "Keystone Kaida" anyway.
Wow, such animosity for Americans and such praise for the Brits.
I guess nobody read the story above this one about cameras all over Britain. Something like one camera for every 14 Brits, and they just stood there and let it happen. Talk about sheep.
I got a kick watching the news reports about this. BRITISH FOIL TERROR PLOT. One of the first reports from the BBC said that the bomb in the first car had a cell phone and it was dialed twice prior to discovery. If the dumb shits had made a good bomb it would have gone off twice. What the heck did they foil? Then the US press got a hold of it and it became something else. No wonder the British were cool about it, they new it was a bunch of dumb shits doing this. Kind of the same caliber as most of the really scary terror plotters that have been bagged in the US. Pizza guys attacking a military base.
ArmyWife @ 81:
actually, CCTV is often installed at the request of the locals.
The British know how to use emotion to UNITE their people, not divide. It comes from having centuries more civilization, an education system that develops higher order thinking skills (all their exams are essays) and a core of independent media that understands its role to investigate and inform its citizens. People in the UK know that CCTV is for security, protects the rule of law, and trust it will not be used for political purposes. (That's why the 'cash for honors' scandal was the downfall of Blair.) Americans don't have that assurance; there have been too many bad examples.
Just spent the last 5 days in northern Michigan at my son's wedding. No news, no radio, no blogs, nothing but beautiful weather, gorgeous scenery, lots of love and kisses and not an ounce of fear or angst in my bones. Maybe the secret is a being a little less aware and do a lot more living.
james @ 83:
Railway worker caught on CCTV trying to snatch a girl on a street has been jailed for four years... An off-duty police officer, Pc Noel Duke, had seen the girl walking alone and had alerted colleagues. They trained CCTV cameras on the area and police arrived at the scene seconds after Graw ran away...
Having lived with CCTV cameras in the UK for quite a few years, I not sure I mind them all that much (of course, if they started lecturing me, that might change). But as the link shows, they do have their uses...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4062023.stm
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Not a surprising reaction from the Brits. This is also how they responded to Hilter's reign of bombs and terror during the Battle of Britain in WWII. Life goes on and the bad guys don't change them. USA can learn from this.
nonny mouse @ 31:
Hey Nonny, you're becoming a bit of a celebrity here on C&L !! What's next, an interview with Jon Stewart ? a funny/surreal exchange with Stephen Colbert ?
Anayway, it's always refreshing to read you because it reminds me that not ALL americans are completely and utterly ethno-centric.... even well intentioned people on C&L are sometimes that and I tend to despair sometimes of my American friend on that particular subject. So thanks again ...