Carl Levin gives Joe Lieberman a big fat kiss over Iran resolution: UPDATED
By John Amato Tuesday Jul 10, 2007 3:45pm
And the vote just came in! (see below) I usually side with Sen. Levin on many issues, but watching this lovefest between him and Joe Lieberman is a sad, sad, sad display on his part. Lieberman throws Harry Reid and most of the Democratic Party under the bus every chance he gets and Levin sticks up for his colleagues by......planting a wet one on Holy Joe.
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No wonder Lieberman doesn't want to become a Republican. He's having too good a time fulfilling all his neocon fantasies at the expense of Harry Reid. Joe, Graham, McCain and Kyl are offering up an Iran Amendment which is paving the way for America to attack the Iran.
Update: I'm truly saddened by these cowards....Siun of FDL:
Levin and Salazar asked to be added as co-sponsors before the language was finalized, McCain used the bullshit Michael Gordon Hezbollah story to justify his vote, Graham waxed poetic comparing Iranian leadership to Hitler and Sen Durbin spoke of his support – as long as the amendment specified that it was not an authorization of military action. (Wow, what a relief! We all know that little details like congressional authorization matter so much to this White House).
Levin introduced the actual vote on the Lieberman Amendment by stressing that the Senate stands as one and that Iran had better listen. The final vote: 97 Ayes, 0 Nays
If you would like to thank the Senate for taking us one step closer to war on Iran - and in particular Senator Levin for his big smooch for Joe and Senator Reid for his “leadership,” here are the numbers:
U.S. Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121
Holy Joe!
There's your New Way.
Did they swap tongues?
And us folk who say "Democrats=Republicans" are ridiculed on sites such as this one.
Maybe, just maybe, some of you are beginning to wake up.
There is no "two-party" system of government in America. The Elite has used the perception of there being one to their advantage for more than a hundred years. Did you really seriously think that last November changed anything? Or that 2008 will?
Perhaps I am a conspiracy theorist, but you can't call me an idiot.
Uhm, Republicans blocked the Time-Off Amendment. Clearlythe best way to support the troops is to make them stay in Iraq until they are killed or maimed.
What else do these two have in common? Israel perhaps?
Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 4:
I hear ya, bro. You aren't the only one. And we aren't the only two.
The motivations of some of these people are really suspect.
Vomitous! There is a special place in Jahannum for you Joe. Any ridiculous military action against Iran will push me right over the edge.
Jesus, what next? Why was he kissing Joe's ass.
Windows media seems to load, but not play.
This is weird with Levin because he showered McCain with love this morning. I thought at the time maybe he was just being nice to McCain because his campaign had hit the wall but now I wonder why he is being so sweet to both Thing One and Thing Two?
I bet AIPAC is isn't behind this at all.
... Levin becomes an agent provocateur - Iran is on notice. The mosad must have wood ...
The strangest thing is that Levin has been calling for a withdrawal until very recently...
What changed?
Perhaps Lieberman has "Mad Cow" disease.
Why I'm an Independent voter and no longer a Democrat, part 8473847. I have good congresscritters but the party's leadership and fat old cats need a serious reality check.
Carl Levin gives Joe Lieberman a big fat kiss over Iran resolution
Can Levin give any other kind?
I watched this dreck on CSPAN2, My utterances consisted mostly of "Ohhhh God" and "Shut the fuck up!"
Such sophistry and jingoism...
Very disappointing and the only thing these two have in common is Israel.
I thought this is the USA
Term limits - NOW!
Levin wants our troops to withdraw to Iran.
That was a "butter up" not a "pucker up".
Listen again. Levin is trying to get his modifications in there.
miss_kitty @ 8:
Too bad you aren't the only two. Just because the Democrats are not doing everything you would like, does not make them the equivalent of the Republicans. If you really do not see any difference between the parties (on the environment, taxes, foreign policy, health care, education, Supreme Court nominees, etc.) then nothing I write will make any difference to you.
If, on the other hand, you are merely claiming that the two parties are identical as a talking point to justify a decision to vote for a third party candidate or to abstain from voting, just remember that you play directly into Rove/Cheney/Bush's hands that way.
Bob Roberts.
You're correct. Nothing you write will change my mind.
Keep playing the Elite's game by their rules, and see how far that gets you.
Meanwhile, just know that 50% or more of the American population DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT IS GOING ON, nor do they care.
nirak @ 19:
C'mon everyone, all together now -- Israel controls the US Gov't -- you idiots.
[Deleted. Let's not lay this off on Judiaism. They have plenty of other traits in common-Sitemonitor].
They're also US Senators. They're also pretty useless.
As I have stated in a few other threads:
The Congress has become unresponsive to the Will of the People. When will We The People go to the streets? When will We The People throw down the glove and march, protest and strike?
It is called ethnic politics. Yes, there are strong supporter and enabler of neocons in Democratic Party.
The Congress has become plutocratic and has continued to support "their" autocratic leader!
"Language modification"
I don't get these two. We have more hispanics and blacks in America yet these guys get elected in. I guess some things will never change. What is it with the American government going after people of color.
I hope Michigan residents are paying attention.
Here's Senator Levin's phone number: (202) 224-6221. Let him know what you think.
For those of us CT Dems who volunteered for Ned Lamont last fall, this kind of stuff is exactly what we were afraid of. Don't let Levin descend into the Dark Side.
honesty @ 26:
After I finish my latte and pay for the detailing on my SUV. Ooo, but this chair they have in the waiting area is comfy! I feel like Rachael and Phoebe might show up any minute! Ah, look at the time. Got to get home for Deal...OR No Deal. Hmm, how's next month for a good old protestin'? Work for you? Text me, babe.
Love,
We The People
Dr. Acula @ 25:
You got that right!!!!
That's okay, Carl and Joe. It's only 113 degrees today in Baghdad. I'm sure our troops would like to stay over there as long as possible without a break to come home.
Must be beautiful, kinda like Rush's "Club Gitmo", right guys?
Thanks again for "supporting the troops"!
33 nirak Says:
I was NOT agreeing w/you about Israel.
honesty -
Americans don't protest. They may whine and complain, but they certainly won't do anything about it because they know better.
Nothing will change until the Elite is in position to guide the change in its desired direction.
Problem-Reaction-Solution.
It's worked for centuries, and there's no reason to believe it won't work now or in the future.
The Chicago Tribune is now reporting, on it's website, that the White House says that it has no credibel Intel to support claims of a Summer Terrorist Attack, despite the fact the head of homeland security told the Tribune that he had "a gut feeling" that there would be such attacks. Michael Chertoff should be fired for such reckless fear mongering, without a shred of truth to his statements. He makes Baghdad Bob sound responsible, by comparision.
Here is the link to the Chicago Tribune update.
http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2007/07/white_house...
It looks like this site will not allow a live link, but you can just enter the above address to read the article.
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AS I've been saying, the people in control now are no better than the people who were in control before. Dems or Repugs. It's time to start fresh and get rid of all of them. TERM LIMITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
yeah ah i dont mean leahy ah Bush is just partyin cause he ONLY has 205bio$ minus
I was looking at this amendment and was thinking that most of these statements they are using have already been disproven. As for Levin, just remember who his corporate bosses are and what their stake is in keeping wars going on forever.
Why would our troops want to come home anyway? It's a sunny 113 degrees in Baghdad and they're surrounded by the loving Iraqi people.
Thanks guys! You really know how to support our troops!
Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 35:
The Ike Stike carrier group left its dock in Norfolk Virgina a few days ago. It takes about 20-21 days for them to get to the Persian Gulf. There are 2 carriers their already in the gulf and 2 more in the region.
I would be cautious of any event that happends prior to Gen Pretraeus's Sept report. It would seem all to convienent for something to happen that makes this administration look good.
40 Dr. Acula Says:
I don't know what happened to my comment, so here goes:
The American populace has gotten fatter, dumber and more complacent each and every year. They are clueless about most current events. It's MUCH more important to build a mcmansion, buy a fancier car, buy more jewelry and clothing, etc. rather than realize that this country is being run by criminals.
MMMmmm, Joementum.........
by the way, is that scent English Leather ??
Mr. Blade2 @ 41:
Gee, like a false flag fiasco?
I agree that the Stated Democratic Platform is a fine one. I find that aspects of the Stated Republican Platform is agreeable also.
But that's just the stuff printed on the brochure. that doesn't mean that a candidate in my district believes in it, or will vote according to those principles.
Blindly voting for party can leave you voting for a Leiberman style Democrat.
I don't buy the argument that I should vote for a candidate that opposes my principles, and votes against my community's interests, on the basis that he or she wears the right team colors.
Dr. Acula @ 25:
But who does it benefit to go to war with Iran? Certainly not the American people.
Dr. Acula @ 35:
The problem with people seeing some kind of Protocols of the Elders of Zion conspiracy is, by that reasoning if I'm a Texan I must vote Republican.
Bob Roberts @ 23:
Enjoy the Corporate KoolAid, Bob.
ysbaddaden @ 49:
If you vote Republican because K-Street pays you to vote Republican, what are you?
bobby @ 48:
Weaseldog @ 51:
KTEL?
Left over technology from Roswell alien crash being use to brainwash our leaders?
Invasion of the body snatcher?
Genetic modified produce taking over the body? Killer Tomatoes?
I really don't have any other explanation for the mind changes, we saw this with McCain very outspoken, then flip for his support for the war, and sounding incoherently afterward, Lieberman flip party, and now Carl Levin.
paranoia @ 54:
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I go with killer tomatoes.
I can hear the Elvira commentary now.
paranoia @ 54:
Don't forget also that the illegal wiretapping probably ensnares Congress, the Senate, the Supreme Court, and judges on the lower courts.
If you had recordings of all of these people's conversations, you could probably go far.
Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 24:
Here's a clue; they tried to kill that lil fuker Ross Perot. If he hadn't been Mr. Moneybags with armed security, he'd be dead right now. I guess some just can't see the forrest .... uh, period.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjOsv3WlPWw
Lousy visuals.
miss_kitty @ 50:
I'm bowled over by the power of your argument....
From your posts, you're either a Republican trying to undermine opposition to the GOP or you're irrelevant. Unless, of course, you have a viable plan to effect change. If so, feel free to share it.
How about taking a minute to make a call and voice your displeasure to Levin or Libermann....and while you are at it how about a call to Senator Webb who is climbing that muddy hill all alone. Let him know we are watching.
Must be very lonely swimming in that cesspool of politicians.
What are these guys on,ecstasy? Unbelievable how anyone in the democratic party could have kind words for an asshole like Leiberman. I used to have some respect for Levin,but he's just another kiss-ass member of a very disappointing democratic party.
Orwell’s Illegitimate Son>
Dr. Acula Says>
I know there is apathy and that the 7 virtues must surface through the sloth and pride. 6.5 years darn late is way late but it is better late than never! The main purpose of posting is to attempt to generate some movement! I read about a good idea that should work. A national stay at home strike when those participating stay home and do no business. This would save energy, be safe and be easy to do. Protesters must take time off from work when they protest and then spend money on transportation, parking, food, etc. With this idea we spread word online and set up day and then stay home!
miss_kitty @ 50:
Well, there's a fundamental difference between the two groups. The question really is about corruption. Once they get corrupted, they're virtually indistinguishable. That's why there's a big difference between a guy like Jim Webb and Harry Reid.
marbotty @ 64:
Actually, Reid's probably not corrupt, just a coward. I'm sure someone can provide a better example.
Bob Roberts @ 60:
Geez bob I am underwhelmed by your erroneous conclusions. Just because I object to something, doesn't mean I have the cure-all for chrissake.
You wouldn't read it anyway.
Again, Enjoy the koolaid. Be bowled over all over again.
:roll:
miss_kitty @ 66:
Okay, I'll feed the troll one more time.
So ... you think both parties are the same. You don't like the status quo but have no ideas to offer to promote any change. Anyone who disagrees with you must be drinking "koolaid".
It looks as though your only "plan" is to post one liners about people whose posts you disagree with.
Feel free to disprove my "erroneous conclusions" by offering something positive. Anything at all. It doen't have to be a "cure-all" but it would be nice if you had any suggestions to offer.
I don't think that a sit at home strike will have much traction, but at least other posters are offering suggestions to change what they don't like.
Bob bob bob. I am hardly a troll. I have posted here over a year and I have offered many ideas for solutions. I just don't feel like offer up anything to a relative n00b who calls me a 'troll' because he happens to not like my style.
Interested? Google my nick.
Interested? Google my nick
MEOWWWWWWWW!!!!
miss_kitty @ 68:
Why you dirty girl you.
You just "don't feel like" offering anything positive? That's certainly one possibility. There are several others....
BTW, what does the frequency of my posts have to do with anything?
I think you have just coined a phrase, miss_kitty.
I live in Michigan and I sent Levin a little note about his performance today.
has the world suddenly gone fu...in nuts. you first have the ramblings of elmer fudd who has been preaching the same fanatical diatribe for the past year, "we are winning in Iraq" and now he's talking again about supporting our troops and staying the course. if that's not bad enough, there is levin jumping on this asshole's band wagon and joining up. when lieberman finally flames out as he is in the process of doing right now, doesn't levin know that he will take his alliance with him.
this is the best intellect we can elect to our highest positions?????? i would sooner vote for the guy who delivers my pizza. stick with him levin, you two will go down together.
No solutions? there are half measures.
If you don't have a candidate you can vote for, then vote against the worst...
In my district we have the dishonorable Pete Sessions. I've never voted for him.
Bob Roberts @ 71:
So let me get this straight. I must post at Crooks and Liars in accordance with your parameters. Or I am a troll. Wow Bob. I don't see that rule in the commenting policy, or your name on the masthead.
Why do you feel it's up to you to tell me how to post?
The frequency=if I were a troll, I'dve been banned a year or so ago.
You can post any way you like. If you post one line dismissive comments like "Enjoy the Koolaid" just because someone disagrees with you, you should expect to get challenged. If your response to that challenge is more of the same, you should expect to get ignored (which, I admit, I should have done) or further challenged.
If you are content relegating yourself to sarcastic one liners, if that fits your self-image, who am I to disagree?
Finally, I asked why the frequency of MY posts was relevant to you. You seemed to be saying that you didn't feel like saying anything positive simply because I had not made enough posts.
So you give me stick for suggesting you "enjoy the Corporate Koolaid" but it's ok and not at all hypocritical of you to call me a troll and a republican, just because I disagree with you? Nice set you got there. They must clank when you walk around.
Hey with all this side bullshit you've been dishing out and previous posts of YOURS, I'm thinking your a professional DLC/DNC troll. No proof. Just a feeling...
Israel's self interest is apparently trumping the interest of the US once again for these two loyal AIPAC operatives. It really is sad.
Orwell's Illegitimate Son @ 4:
I'm with you 100%.
'Orwell...' and 'Miss Kitty', I'm with you.
The elite at the top of the power structure in the US are focused on maintaining, consolidating, and increasing their power. Just take a look at Bohemian Grove - party affiliation makes no difference there, and why are the Clintons such frequent guests at the Bush 41 compound?
I've come to the conclusion that ideology is nothing but a smokescreen to keep the sheeple distracted and divided. Realpolitik is about power, control, and money. When political events are viewed through that lens, things become much more clear.
Hey "Bob", Pretty sure "Miss Kitty" ain't no troll...She's slapped me down a couple of times....and I've loved every minute of it.
Funny, I haven't seen your name here before. R U A Troll? Heal thy self.
Both Levin and Lieberman want to invade Iran because, as AIPAC beneficiaries, they support Israel's interests over America's. The US troops are merely cannon fodder to them.
The fact that both are Jewish is irrelevant. Sen. Feingold is also Jewish, but his is one of the clearest voices against all of Bush's wars of belligerence, hubris, and aggression.
I just emailed a "screamer" to Boxer! Hope you all do the same to your senators.
Why would anybody believe one word out of Lieberman's mouth.
Bookmark this page, as a matter of record:
http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm...
so we know who to say "thanks" to later this year when the first bombs fall on Iran.
Any way to find out /why/ Brownback, Vitter, and Johnson were 'Not Voting'? Too cowardly to put down a no, or just not bothering to show up?
Hey liarman, according to you, the Iranian government doesn't represent the majority of the people, but why should they listen to the people ? You certainly don't !
your government has been hijacked by Israel you can call me antisemitic call me what you like the record speaks for itself
i was wondering if levin and liberdouch both attend the same temple services!
LIEberman and LIEvin must be using the outsourced CIA intelligence services.
miss_kitty @ 78:
Thanks. They pretty much do.
This is about radical Zionists, masquerading as Patriotic American Congressmen, throwing American treasure, the lives of our soldiers and OUR national security under an Iraqi bus that has a bomb in it. This isn't about Judaism, it's about Radical Zionists foolishly believing that they can get us, America, to do the dirty work in the Middle East that they don't want to, and can't, do. But this Neo-Con-Job fantasy is only going to backfire on Israel and I don't think that they really thought this out before they started supporting these Neo-Con-Job Sociopaths.