Open Thread
By SilentPatriot Thursday Jul 19, 2007 11:31pm
Although I have yet to embrace the Harry Potter phenomenon -- almost 400 million books in print! -- I figured I would mark the occasion of the final book's release with this classic clip of the crazy lady from Jesus Camp.
And while I'm on the subject, let me say something about Harry Potter: Warlocks are enemies of God. And I don't care what kind of hero they are, they're an enemy of God. And had it been in the Old Testament, Harry Potter would have been put to death! You don't make heroes out of warlocks!
How this doesn't qualify as psychological child abuse is beyond me. Poor kids.
religion is child abuse. What's the suprise here?
eff harry potter and eff rowling an her plagerism from many sources, and dumbing down those sources to make her books palatable to the masses.
lets look back upon this week
a week that saw the dems try another political stunt that was doomed from the start....our king continues to remain above the law...the country cares more about a football player abusing dogs than it does a prez that sends thousands to their deaths and dismemberment in a worthless war...that same prez (still miffed that the amnesty bill doesnt pass) says that he doesnt want to force americans to do jobs they dont want to do (way to put down the american worker, and way to change the language about not wanting to do jobs)...the labor sec says we all cant dress well, and we stink and lufa boy says kos is a hate site (while he asks a beauty contestant lurid questions for masterbation fodder)
have i missed anything? have we fallen further down the rabbit hole?
doug mcc...not in all cases, but that case? Absolutely. IMO, religion should be taught from an anthropological perspective until about the age of 12 or 14 (formal operational thinking + some maturity)...then, they can start making their own decisions.
what's sad is that people like this lady are such a minority - a vocal one, of course - but they really are a minority. But, since they're totally crazy, they get all the publicity. Too bad. Just listen to somebody like Obama talk about his faith...i may not agree with all that he believes in faith-wise, but he understands that, with the divine, nothing is certain.
Once one declares to know the mind of god and all that it means, it ceases to be god at all....oh, the paradoxes of life...
Huh huh huh, she said Harry...
I have a secret for her: There's no real magic.
religion sucks the brains out of humans
I guess I shouldn't show her my copy of "Hairy Peter and the Chamber of Hookers."
Sweet baby Jeebus, Uncle Joe...take a chill pill.
I for one am eagerly looking forward to receiving my copy of 'Deathly Hollows' tomorrow.
"Harry Potter would have been put to death." Just a basic doctrinal statement from a representative of a blood sacrifice religion.
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executive order about continuity of
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Can't we instruct children in good vrs bad and why they should be strong members of the human race with good character with out throwing religion into it? Why do we have to bull shit the most defenseless members. The tooth fairy, santa claus,vampires and goblins. What the hell are we doing this for. Can't we teach them to have imagination in ways other then this?
Good- let her stand proudly against Harry Potter. I expect alot of those kids will choose entertaining fiction over psychotic fiction.
Arnie continues to screw
needy Californians.
She seems to think that Harry Potter is a real person, who can be physically killed. As in "In the good old days, Adam Sandler would have been put to death!"
Maybe people like that think that if it's been printed, it must be true. That would explain why they follow the Repub talking points("They newspapers all say Iraq will kill us all in our beds, so it must be true if it was printed in the paper").
Rockefeller plays Republicrat again: The Senate Commerce Committee on Thursday approved a bill sponsored by West Virginia Senator Jay Rockefeller that would effectively overturn a court decision barring the FCC from fining broadcasters for airing fleeting expletives in live broadcasts. FCC Chairman Kevin Martin welcomed the lawmakers' action, saying that it would affirm "the commission's ability to protect our children from indecent language and images." However Dennis Wharton, a spokesman for the National Association of Broadcasters insisted that broadcasters "go to great lengths to prevent [indecent] language, and it is disingenuous to suggest otherwise." And Nick Gillespie, editor-in-chief at the libertarian Reason magazine, told CNSNews.com, a unit of the conservative Media Research Center, that Congress ought to be dealing with such issues as terrorism and poverty. "This helps explain why congressional approval ratings are at 14 percent and going down."
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You have to keep that big woman from being in charge of anything...
Somebody needs to bop her on the head and tell her she's cured!
This is stupid.
However all religions have their stupid, even bigoted incantations. Like a woman can't touch a male Jew when he has a block of wood on his forehead. Muslims, (and others) cutting off a young girl's clitoris supposedly to keep her from turning into a sex wanton whore. Not eating pork and all this food taboo bullshit....ect...ect...
Its not just Christians.
Dow Jones director doesn't want to be employed by Murdoch. S. Korea gives up on Afghanistan.
simply
she is an ignorant piece of shit.
i am tired of people who speak for god. if they actually had a direct line
they would spread the love and joy the "bible" ascribes to not this venom and hate,
the american crap version that has been bastardized.
guess i will burn in their version of hell, i am an agnostic. i know the difference
between real compassion and empathy versus their demeaning feces breath.
I once overheard a mother admonishing her son (about 8 years old) in a Target store as she pried his fingers loose from a Harry Potter DVD: "That's not good. Harry Potter doesn't know Jesus." Yeah, it's important to choose sides when it comes to competing fantasies -- except that Harry Potter is sold in the fiction section in recognition of its nature while the Bible gets sold in its own special religion section of the bookstore (saving booksellers from the danger of having to categorize it).
I'm pretty sure that mother would be in cheerful agreement with the pudgy fascist from Jesus Camp. I borrowed her comment as the title of a post concerning how Coral Ridge Ministries sees a fund-raising opportunity in the latest Potter publicity. Coral Ridge is pushing a book by a "cult expert" who attempts to analyze "good" fantasy (e.g., Narnia) versus "bad" fantasy (Harry Potter, of course). Time to pass the collection plate! [Link]
rockefeller needs to concentrate on the reasons for war inquiry and leave the dumb stuff to the republicans.
We need to teach our children what is right and wrong. How to have good character. How to be good citizens. Why do we have to bullshit them? Religion,the tooth fairy,santa claus,vampires and goblins. I am sure we can teach them how to have imagination in other ways. Why pick on the most defenseless of us?
Hey site monitor. Where do some of our comments go for a while? I did a little different version of an earlier one that did not show up.
[They end up in the spam filter. John Amato's comments were ending up there earlier, so you're in great company. Sorry about that. I'll try to fix it for you-Sitemonitor]
How this has reached the level of an important " news" story is an abomination and a disgrace for the so called news channels, and after hearing Kyra Phillips(CNN) laughing uncontrollably about H.P. was a disgrace and embarrassment for the so called news program.
In the same category is all the fricken time they spend on how much money movies make, or a book makes, as if this is a legitimate news story, personally I don't give a rats ass how much money ANY movies makes.
Pathetically at the same time, they could have reported bUsh's new executive order, i found on Rense.com , after which I verified on the White House Govt. web site. Bush signed on July 17th, Executive Order - blocking Property of Certain Persons who (threaten) Stabilization efforts in Iraq.
B. undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction.
There's more to it, otherwise protesters, persons aiding in directly or indirectly challenging bush's economic occupation in Iraq, here in the U.S. GET IT?
ANYBODY protesting or what they deem as "interfering " with say, Haliburton or Bechtel can have their PROPERTY SEIZED .
Send money to the wrong group, or interfere with the war profiteers scandalous ambitions in Iraq, and keep in mind it's U.S. law for Citizens HERE, will subject themselves to forfiture laws, signed by the Fuhrer.
Sad day for the media not reporting this important story, sadder for the citizens of the United States of America.
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Darth Romney @ 25:
But you'll post a video about some cow advocating putting Harry Potter to death! Besides, when's the last time you've seriously seen anyone in America burnt at the stake. Lighten up!
It really IS child abuse by definition. She and her cohorts should be arrested. We have better uses for our prison system than locking up hookers and pot smokers.
What the hell? Regardless of what some people seem to think, religion is not a necessary element of stupidity or bigotry. If you're inclined to prejudice and hate, you will interpret your religion accordingly. Same goes for ideology or patriotism.
Did somebody say that Dick Cheney would be president while Dubya is in the hospital getting Roto-Rootered?
Is the Nuclear Football under competent guard? I have this uneasy feeling that Armageddon is about to be imanually mplemented.
Religion has been the cause of many wars. Does this speak to religion or the humans who practice it?
I think some Gene Robinson makes a nice antidote for scary "Christianity"...
I didn't take a single look at this thread (or any others for days now) for fear of retard buttheads posting spoilers! For any of you who did or have or will....!!!??
YOUR JUNK IS AS tiny AS THAT ONE GIRL WHO SAW YOU NAKED SAID THEY ARE AND YOUR MOTHER NEVER LOVED YOU!
Hah!
Now go ruin someone else's fun, uber-troll!
(apologies to any nice, normal people on this thread who didn't deserve that)
btw C&L,
Why even TEMPT those lurking fun-busters with this thread?
Kidding. It's all good.
Bob Roberts @ 28:
exactly....it's not religion that is whacked...it's the nut-jobs' interpretation of religion. If they didn't have religion as a way of spewing hate, they'd find something else...
Ali @ 30:
Religion has been the cause of very few wars. Greed, racism, nationalism and the quest for power has been the cause of far more.
there is nothing like someone arguing from a point of ignorance...
Harry Potter and his fictional friends celebrate Christmas and Easter, Their whole storyline is devoted to battling evil. The heroes of the stories are compassionate and high-minded.
And, all in all? they are entertaining reads.
Ali @ 30:
Well since Chimpanzees have organized wars between "tribes", I would say that religion is but one excuse Humans make to make war. I also find it fascinating that Chimpanzees eat their enemies and pass around the meat of their dead enemies bodies, sharing bite after bite in macabre ritual.
Only the paranoid need ritual.
The Vatican asks
Ga. not to execute Troy Davis.
tyree @ 6:
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I think you are right. How else could they swallow that nonsence.
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So what are you going to do about it?
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Bob I don't know that much about eastern religions other then they have a lot of life philosophy in them. I have read the book of mormon and and quite a bit on the muslim religion and of course a lot on western religions. Other then eastern the rest are all full of bigotry. The one true god is a part of all of them. Why is being divisive so important to all of them. Why is our history so full of things like we came here for religious freedom? Why do modern US religious groups go out of their way to say publicly that the other religions are not true religions? It sounds like a ford dealer telling a customer that chevrolet is a bad car. Just marketing. Why do they need marketing? What are they trying to sell?
Religious nuts like her should be sterilized so that they will not breed and propagate more religious cretins and Republicans.
I'm afraid that these kids are going to grow up to have serious issues in coping with real life and its experiences. Let alone being capable to live in society.
They will grow up to assassinate Dumbo the flying elephant, and hate all those that are not like them.
Where in society will the fit?
Here is that same lady.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbSfBeetgLQ
This is proof that "The Children are Our Future" is complete b.s.
These children are our early Medieval Period.
PRISON THRILLER!
An entire Prison Recreates Thriller Video, you got to see it to believe it.
mark @ 41:
Not sure I can answer this, but I'll give a shot. Religion can be divisive for the same reason any other beliefs can be. Once you are a member of a group, you can define your membership by your opposition to other groups. If the other group's views are as valid as yours, why stay with your group?
Religion is no more divisive than ideology. Liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, libertarians and communists. People who are determined to find groups which define themselves as superior to other groups don't need religion to do it.
Religion need not be divisive. One of the fundamental tenets of the New Testament is that God is Love, not Hate. The Qu'ran exhorts peoples of the book (monotheists) to tolerate each others views. More importantly, many religious people support and respect others desire to discover the divine for themselves.
I also think the MSM gives a distorted view of religion. People discussing their religious views in a rational and calm manner just don't make as compelling viewing as extremists preaching hate. Viewers are more likely to remember scenes of screaming protesters throwing fake (if you're lucky) blood outside an abortion clinic than they are a conversation with a Catholic priest discussing the rationale for his beliefs.
Finally, religion (like nationalism and ideology) inspires people. That inspiration can be used for good or ill. If I wanted to start and perpetuate a war to preserve or expand my hold on power, I can use all three to motivate my supporters.
Salmineo @ 37:
I guess I'm not the only who's watched Planet Earth?
Religion is bad and anyone that believes in God should [deleted] and not allowed to vote, even if they intend to vote (D). F everyone who doesn't think the way the true progressives do. "It's our way or the highway!". Good luck with that, you dumb f*cks.
Robt @ 43:
Close, but no cigar. Jesus Camp actually shows how these kids are indoctrinated to use violence to spread their form of Christianity. I wonder how many Timothy Mcveighs there will be in the future.
Why would anyone want to belong to a chuch led by someone so stupid and hateful?
If that church lady was born in Baghdad she would be a Muslim and think Christains are infidels.
Child brainwashing works. Tony the Tiger convinced me at the age of 4 that Frosted Flakes taste GRRRRREAT!
ldzppln @ 49:
Dude, now you're just sounding like THEM. People can believe whatever they want to believe. It's just that religion should have no place in politics and we need to work on that whole separation of church and state thing. That's all.
TIKI AL @ 52:
Thanks for making the assertion that everyone born in Baghdad or anyone born a Muslim hates Christians. Nicely done. WTF is wrong with you?
They do, don't they?
Actually if the church lady was born in Baghdad she would be planting IEDs and killing Americans.
Yes they do taste great.
Back then they had truth in child brainwashing laws.
now here is something interesting. it is not surprising that fox noise declares the republicans winners and the democrats losers in this last week's overnight debate over the war -- even suggesting that it was a nonevent...
but they declare uncle joe leebermun no longer is a democrat from con-neck-tee-cut. there is an "i" behind his name. hmmm. i wonder what that might stand for...?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290223,00.html
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i do want to wish the president well tomorrow. i mean, i really do hope they find his brains. they will be looking in the right place...
Ugh. That gluttonous slob of a woman is hideous. I can't stand christian fundamentalists. They are terrorists. They murdered numerous innocent women during the Salem Witch Trials. They participated in the genocide of the Native American People during the Western expansion, calling them "heathens". They fill the ranks of the evil Klu Klux Klan. They bomb abortion clinics murdering doctors and women alike. Perhaps more that any other group in America, besides the neocon inner circle, they love the war in Iraq and actually pray for the destruction of the world. I'm sick of them butting into other people's lives. I'd like to ship them to an island with an equal number of muslim fundamentalists and let them duke it out with their own kind.
I'm holding out for 'Harry Potter and the Colonoscopy'
Republicans have no respect for law enforcement officers.
Congressman clashes with police
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Republican Rep. Christopher Shays apologized Friday for a loud and angry altercation he had a day earlier with a Capitol Police officer, saying he behaved “in a way I know was not appropriate.”
Shays spokesman John Cardarelli said the incident took place at the West Front entrance to the Capitol during a rainstorm when the congressman was trying to locate a group of his Connecticut constituents who were coming for a Capitol tour.
you can't stop ignorance, especially with the response of more ignorance.
you can't stop hatred, especially with the response of more hatred.
you can't stop violence, especially with the response of more violence.
It's in the genetic makeup.
So I'm going to see Harry Potter tomorrow because it's been fun and it's going to be fun.
Then I'm going to my friend's cookout.
Gotta chill once in a while, you know? It's in the genetic makeup. I'm sure of it.
TIKI AL @ 56:
ignorant and pathetic. that must have taken some extra thought.
OK Bob
I understand that people are constantly in pursuit of identity groups. Sex, age, employment, sports, race etc. Religion seems to be on the same level as the others. Why do religions demand special treatment? Tax exempt for example. They are another special interest group just like the others. They pitch their program to the consumer just like the others. Ford, chevy, toyota and honda. There are many lists of groups. One product provider will claim to be superior to others in the group. Nothing new here. But then again, car dealers do not claim to designate saints. Home builders do not save souls. I agree greed is probably the greatest factor in wars starting but why do we say the protestants and the catholics are fighting in northern ireland? The sunni and shiite. The jews do not deserve a home land. There are a lot of phrases coming from different groups that are religious based and people do not call them on it.
"Put to death" - applause.
Preach on bitch...........
“Harry Potter would have been put to death” - applause.
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Phej Omatic @ 67:
sloth is a sin too fat lady
Batocchio @ 51:
Why is sunday the most segregated day in America?
In the 'Book of Acts', the first practice of 'christianity' is described.
Skip past the 'tongues of fire' and go to the parts where people 'fellowship' and 'worship'.
Then find some of those types of 'christians' in practice.
I am assured that no group led by haggard, swaggart, fallwell, phelps or the pope practices the 'christianity' described in the book they use as a reference. Yet the 'book' is referred to constantly.
But really. it's not even the same book. there are at least 15 'current' versions of the 'good book', all suited to separate idiosyncrasies.
BaScOmBe @ 62:
Have fun, BaScOmBe!
ldzppln @ 49:
should each demonination [deleted]?
Site Monitor: Let's not keep this line of discussion going. Pretty soon, Bill O'Reilly will hold this thread up as an example of the violent fantasies of the left.
miss_kitty @ 71:
thanks miss_kitty! :)
ldzppln Says:
Republicans have no respect for law enforcement officers.
Congressman clashes with police
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Republican Rep. Christopher Shays apologized Friday for a loud and angry altercation he had a day earlier with a Capitol Police officer, saying he behaved “in a way I know was not appropriate.”
Shays spokesman John Cardarelli said the incident took place at the West Front entrance to the Capitol during a rainstorm when the congressman was trying to locate a group of his Connecticut constituents who were coming for a Capitol tour.
If poor white trash like me did that to a cop in my neighborhood I'm either beaten, killed or imprisoned.
mark @ 68:
This fat woman makes me want to watch the first 10 minutes of the movie "Zeitgest" over and over again.
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I wish Cynthia McKinney was still in Congress.
And about being born in Bagdad. I think she is saying if that particular woman was born in a country with a majority if muslim poplulation SHE would be crazy as hell. Not the other people being born there? true.
"How this doesn’t qualify as psychological child abuse is beyond me. Poor kids."
Problem is those poor kids are going to be the ignorant @holes we'll have to argue with online in 15 years.
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#64 mark
That statement leads me to question your faith. You obviously do not believe in God. I (respectfully) ask you: In what do YOU believe? Are your convictions in the Environ Movement? A very powerful belief system. Or the Peace Movement.
You also hate Jews. Why?
Why do they not deserve a home land?
I read your commenting policy before my first post way back when. I just read it again. I don't see the part that applies. This is a three part film that has some information about 9/11 in the middle part only. When or why or how did discussing any of these three parts become banned?
RTLM @ 81:
Please go back and read it again. I did not claim the phrases as mine.
mark @ 83:
But you do subscribe to them...
RTLM @ 84:
Please do not put words in my mouth. You can turn on any station any day and here these things.
[I read the comment RTLM, and believe me, if I'd taken what was said the way you did, the comment would not be left on the board. I believe you are misinterpreting mark's comment, and he's telling you that as well. You can drop it-Sitemonitor]
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TIKI AL @ 56:
It sounds like Frosted Flakes aren't the only thing you were brainwashed about.
You simply don't know the facts. You're spewing crap as if it were true. I guess you skipped the "Debate Club" back in school and spent your time smoking and looking at porn in the boy's bathroom.
If she were born in Baghdad she'd probably be either a refugee in a neighboring country by now, or she'd be hiding in her house hoping the catastrophe would end soon. But, then again, I didn't expect you to know anything about that. You're hopeless.
Well site monitor it looks like every one else has gone to bed and so will I. I would appreciate some feed back on my question at #82. By the time you started responding to these comments we had been on the subject for a while. If you check, you will see that I like to participate on a daily basis. These are my first deletes and I am interested in why.
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Every time I hear this psycho Fundy witch open her trap I just want to remind her that "in the testiment" women were not allowed to speak in most religious settings.... and she would have been stoned to death for wearing pants.
Thanks. I searched Illuminati from you comment. Never heard of it before. Lots of wild stuff there. Good night.