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Nicole Belle on Friday, August 3rd, 2007 at 3:45 PM - PDT
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Well, you win some, you lose some. Our buddy, Mike Stark was featured in Countdown’s WPitW segment, although you could see that it pained Keith Olbermann to include him–and to defend Bill O’Reilly.
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Bummer… I suppose if he’s going to give Bill O the worst listing for his JetBlue ambush. Using Bill-O’s own tactics against him earns you in kind.
first?
first?
At least no last
I liked Mike Stark’s approach, but only because it was the big giant head that started it in the first place be threatening to send Faux Security to Mike’s house. I am glad KO took the high ground though.
I think it’s to your great credit, Nicole, Keith Olberman and to C&L that this was posted.
Billo was still the worst.
I still can’t get over how Chris Dodd slapped BillO around the room and left him as a wet spot on the floor. That was just too good.
KO is right to include Mike Stark in his worst.
Stark’s stunt was juvenile, asinine and I expect it from O’Reilly.
Not from Mike Stark.
Nate @ 1:
I don’t think that’s what KO said, Nate. He was sayin’ leave the guy alone at home.
In public(as in outside of the Faux Compound) ’s’okay.
I watched this last night, and I see Keith’s point about it being BillO’s home and all (a point made by a few C&Lers too), but I’m sorry, it still cracks me up. Especially seeing them wave at BillO with the loofahs on their hands. Brilliant!
That being said, I’ll just declare myself the WPinW too. I guess I’m a terrible person for enjoying what Stark did. How will I go on…
Keith is the man!! He has more tact and couth then alot of news casters out there.
(katie kalic can you hear us now)?
regardless,, keith needs to stay and keep on exposing the liars and the corruption thats right befour our eyes.
oh and new ´´empy nest eagle pics´´ are up at my blog . Have a look and well see it for yourselfs.
There you go. We apply our standards to our own. We don’t make excuses for them.
KO got to call BO a pervert but does not want “the sheep” at his house.
O’Reilly Fundraising for Dodd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5st91IxOYME
Andy K @ 10:
You’re probably right Andy… Here’s to hoping Mike stays on Loofah boy like stink on sh!t. In public of course. Maybe we should start a fundraiser for a giant billboard highlighting transcripts of Bill-O’s perverted phone calls with the woman he sexually harassed.
justabill @ 15:
Classic edit there justabill. I hope Sen Dodd uses the video on his site. lol
I disagree with Olbermann about his assessment of Stark’s actions, because with Orally you have to be willing to play just as dirty (since he will just continue to abuse your one-sided fairness and even use it against you), and I see Billo going off of the deep end and being a danger to his neighborhood. But I agree with most of Keith’s assessments and respect his approach, even if occassionally wrong. ;)
Line 66.
During the course of O’REILLY’s telephone monologue on August 2, 2004, he suggested that Plaintiff ANDREA MACKRIS purchase a vibrator and name it, and that he had one “shaped like a cock with a little battery in it” that a woman had given him. It became apparent that Defendant was masturbating as he spoke. After he climaxed, Defendant O’REILLY said to Plaintiff: “I appreciate the fun phone call. You can have fun tonight. I’ll appreciate it. I mean it.”
I am curious to hear from some of those who ripped me and others who said the same as KO on the Stark posting (Dr. Matt and the Site Monitor stick out in memory). Are you guys going to rip into and insult KO now that he said exactly what we said?
john @ 20:
You just did.
Did everyone read the research on BillO?
“Content analysis of O’Reilly’s rhetoric finds spin to be a ‘factor’
Commentator uses name-calling more than once every seven seconds in ‘Talking Points Memo’
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
May 2, 2007
Editors” This study, published in the academic journal Journalism Studies, was conducted and released without any involvement of any special interest group. The researchers received no grant funding for this study. Additional data, charts and the full text of the study are available online at http://journalism.indiana.edu/papers/oreilly.html.
BLOOMINGTON, Ind. — Bill O’Reilly may proclaim at the beginning of his program that viewers are entering the “No Spin Zone,” but a new study by Indiana University media researchers found that the Fox News personality consistently paints certain people and groups as villains and others as victims to present the world, as he sees it, through political rhetoric.
The IU researchers found that O’Reilly called a person or a group a derogatory name once every 6.8 seconds, on average, or nearly nine times every minute during the editorials that open his program each night.
“It’s obvious he’s very big into calling people names, and he’s very big into glittering generalities,” said Mike Conway, assistant professor in the IU School of Journalism. “He’s not very subtle. He’s going to call people names, or he’s going to paint something in a positive way, often without any real evidence to support that viewpoint.”
http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/page/normal/5535.html
Sorry Keith, Billo is the ambush king and his people don’t care where you are …..
Mike Stark doesn’t have a television show to feature his ambush.
Bill set himself up for this, not Stark.
http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/page/normal/5535.html
Interesting research findings about BillO
Otay @ 21:
I had no problem on the thread w/ those who disagreed w/ me and felt Stark’s behavior was OK, I don’t recall you being one who resorted to name calling or condescension on that thread though.
Yeah, what Willie Krash (22) said.
Sen Dodd should have asked billo what he and the family did this week for Falafel Day.
john @ 24:
No, I didn’t name call. I guess I respect everyone’s opinions on this site too much. ;)
I don’t get it. Why do we go through this same ‘Who’s the Worst Person, who’s worse, who’s worser, each week?
Let’s just concede the Worst, Worse, and Worser to Bush, Cheney, O’Reilly. Let the other assholes fight it out for fourth, fifth and sixth, ‘Less worser but still shi**y’, ‘Not quite as worse, but really fu*ked-up’, and ‘Up and coming as*ole of the week’.
john @ 20:
Keith is wrong as you are. I have no problem admitting that. I don’t use talking points or take direction from anyone. You’re both wimps on this issue. Big deal.
Loonie @ 13:
There WHAT go? You feel justified in your thoughts in this regard because a news commentator agrees with you. Most of them would.
I’ll make up my own mind thanks, and I feel no obligation to make excuses for anyone’s behaviour. I just happen to have the ability to to laugh at a bully who deserved what he got, thanks to Stark. Should Stark be punished somehow for what he did, so be it, I’ll still laugh at the incident. And no, it wouldn’t be the same if it happened to me, I’m not a public figure who threatens people and lies on a daily basis for what I can only guess is an absurd paycheque.
Otay @ 27:
Disagreement is healthy. That thread became much to much like what I would expect from the right where anyone who didn’t line up behind Stark was being insulted and shouted down. I think it is great that Keith deals not from ideology but from principle.
johnnyRocketpants @ 30:
I think what he was saying was the Keith deals from principles not just ideology. O’Reilly will rip on Kos for having someone who posts a cartoon that was perhaps tasteless, but lets the left slide. KO isn’t like that. He is consistent.
justabill @ 25:
Yeah, I agree!
ENDE!!!!!!!!!
comon,, stop the infighting already!!
§$%&/()!! didint come here to see this crap.
if we pull this on a blog we are kicked off! so behave yourself already ´´ppl´´!
johnnyRocketpants @ 11:
It made me laugh, although I do think it is wrong. That said, did anybody else notice that Mike Stark had breasts? (that made me laugh too)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com.....22560f.jpg
I’m glad KO took the high ground, but I’m glad Stark fronted BillO. I’m so confused anymore.
john @ 32:
I’m guessing you meant “…but lets the RIGHT slide.”
I appreciate KO’s consistency, although I question his motive in this situation considering he is a public figure as well. But my point is, I can laugh at what happened without feeling obligated to defend Stark’s actions. Stark turned the tables on BillO, and I appreciate the humour and message of what he did. I can also laugh at the tasteless cartoons, because I understand the underlining message of, let’s say, Lieberman blowing Bush.
Keep in mind, Keith said Stark’s stunt would be fine if it were in public. Many objectors here would still call that ’sinking to BillO’s level’. I disagree, which in some concern-troll minds makes me juvenile & asinine. I hope you’re not one of them, and allow me to see the gray in what is far from a black and white issue.
BS, the only reason billo hasn’t done it to Keith yet is because both have a camera crew. This is not about ideology, it’s about a sex pervert lose on the neighborhood. How many lives has O’Reilly destroyed with his crew for the same accusations?
Some of you still don’t get it. KO is right.
Becoming a disgusting creepy stalker because Loufa is a a creepy jerk is paying him back how? It’s “fighting” him HOW?
Is Bill o going to quit his show because someone posted nasty leaflets in his neighborhood? Is Fox going to cancel his show? Is he going to tone down his rhetoric? Are you so delusional as to think so?
NO. By doing what Stark did WE LOSE. It affects Bill O in no way except positively, because now when he bellows about the left being hateful, he’ll have more ammo. When people on the fence investigate Bill O’s charges, there’s more of a chance they’ll see validation for them. He himself will see this as validation that he is right.
What exactly do those of you who are saying he deserves it think this will accomplish other than to tarnish US? if all you want is to vent your own spleen regardless of the consequences, then you’re no better than the right-wing screamers.
I thought Mike’s stunt was self-serving and did not help “our side.”
johnnyRocketpants @ 37:
I did mean right, thanks for the correction. I was going to correct myself, but that would have been 3 posts in a row. Honestly, I can see where a person could think O’Reilly had it coming to him, because he has a whole lot coming to him for the way he treats people. I don’t think Stark’s actions were reprehensible, but I did object to it being described as “reporting”. What Fox does is not reporting and we call them on it, so I don’t like seeing people on the left falling into that same trap.
My objections on that thread were more to the group think shown by some posters and the bullying on the thread. The end doesn’t justify the means. I think progressives need to encourage an open and frank discussion because I think that if that happens our side wins. People like O’Reilly have to cut mics and shout down those they disagree with because they don’t have facts or reason on their side. I don’t like seeing anyone marching in lockstep and telling others they are wrong for having their own opinion. As I said on another thread, a perfect example of being aggressive, smart and still having dignity was what Dodd did to O’Reilly. My respect for him grew so much seeing how he did that.
OK i can see this deliberation will go on for much time that i care to spend here.
Folks its either this or that. In the words of a wise lawyer,, if you stick together,, your case is stronger, IF due to PETTY reasons, you split, then you case can become so argumental its not even worth the courts time.
STOP the infighting period. You folks on blogs have asked us to end it,, so do the same ok? or ,,,,,,,you just make the rules up as you go along??
Mitt regards ( mitt means with in german)
danke for my time here C&L folks.
have a good evening too.
Flawless KO. Flawless. My stomach sank when I saw Mike Stark’s little stunt. When they get you to sink to their level, they win. No wonder why O’Reilly didn’t explode at the stunt. He knew he had Stark right where he wanted him.
Sorry, Mike. I don’t have your back on this one. You gave this round to the Falafel head.
It was totally bogus for Keith to do that. With all the right-wing famous lawbreakers, breaking laws every day, he picks Mike as the 2nd worse person — ahead of Limbaugh?
Who is Keith pandering to?
This ain’t a 2nd grade fight, folks. Until you cease the “Let’s be nice” BS, this country will never change. And we’re might close to the point of no return.
You don’t bring a slingshot to a gun fight. Stop with the “play nice” crap.
Love how Olbermann declares his side ‘the good guys’. Prime example of taking the high road.
There is no longer any political discourse of gentlemen any longer in this country. With the tactics of the wacky right, like giving out addresses and calling people traitors, fully knowing that there are crazies out there willing to take action to harm, I find M