FISA free-zone!

Go girl, you have my eyes and ears.

NONE THE WISER FOR FISA, DEMS ALLOW BUSH TO INSTALL ‘NANNY-CAMS’ IN THEIR OFFICES

Nicole: Off Topic, BUT you might want to consider a C&L thread w/respect to following:

www.advocateforyouth.org/news/press/071907.htm

Most certainly ANOTHER example of how "our" U.S. Congress(especially the Dems)
are out of touch with reality and are not attentive or listening to the general public.
Makes me want to upchuck...

John or Nicole: Sorry, maybe it can be viewed at http://www.advocateforyouth.org/news/press/071907.htm

RayC @ 6:

Of the 231 Democrats 41 voted yes, of the 202 Republicans 2 voted no, someone explain how this is the last time some of you will vote for a Democrat because this is so they are so bad? Look at your Representative, Democrat or Republican and how they voted and stop painting all Democrats and Republicans as the same.

Once again, a voice of reason. I put in some time last election at Darcy's phone banks, trying to beat Dave Reichert, a rubber stamp republican. She's not even in my district.

john/nicole: One more time....

http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/news/press/071907.htm

John/Nichole: Each day I learn a little more about your C&L site. I had failed to
note that in the Menu at the left of this site, towards top of page, a person can
send tips/etc. to you directly. Sorry for not noticing earlier and apologize for
taking up OT subject on this thread.

And now they are getting more power to spy on Americans.

The Bush Administration has:

1) misled the country in pursuing war with Iraq
2) have undermined the rule of law
3) enabled destructive policies that have weakened our national security
4) cost more than 3,600 American lives
5) drained our treasury
6) broke the law with a warrantless domestic spy program
7) refused to answer supeanas
8) Called our Constitution "just a piece of paper"
9) Lied about Hussein links to al Qaeda and 9/11
10) tortured foreign detainees
11) obstructed justice into the firing of US Attorneys

It all sounds like a bad movie.

Flashback: Aug. 6, 2001. Six years ago today, President Bush received a classified intelligence briefing that warned "bin Laden" was determined to strike inside the U.S. ... Condoleezza Rice later dismissed the urgency of the briefing, claiming it was “not a warning” but rather a “historical memo.”

Some American families still have some concerns and unanswered questions...
"We, the undersigned, demand the immediate declassification and release of all transcripts and documents relating to the July 10, 2001 ...."
http://www.petitiononline.com/july10/petition.html

Every american, every local, state and federal representative should see and fully understand these issues and unanswered questions. The calls for the release of all transcripts and documents should be a front page story in every city.

People all across the country are ready to have an intelligent conversation on all of these issues. Including Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials, Engineers, Architects, Pilots, Aviation Professionals, Professors and American Citizens.

I hope Darcy wins. She reminds me of Thom Hartmann

You people are silly:

Harley @ 8:

Democrats passed it you shill.

Her advice is like touching an electric fence again and again.

and Steve @ 10:

I agree new and better people need to be elected- but why should they be Democrats? Democrats have shown what they are: weak willed chickens and little different than Republicans. At some point yo have to turn away from Democrats towards and independent choice. That time has come. Democrats are every bit as complicit as Republicans.

The Democrats voted overwhelmingly against this legislation. The Republicans voted almost unanimously for this legislation. Democrats are a step in the right direction. What we need is Democratic leadership that will use all the tools accessible to defend constitutional rights (with the same intensity that the Republican leadership defends embryonic stem cells.)

I remember listening to a lot this kind of talk from progressive candidates last year, and we voted a lot of them in. Now that they are in Washington, facing the realities of beltway politics, their actions are not meeting the expectations they gave us last year. All that tough talk is easy on the campaign trail, not so much when they get elected. Having said that, of course I will continue to support progressive candidates and simply work harder to hold their feet to the fire when they are elected. The alternative is simply not acceptable.

I like Darcy a lot, and it is going to be a very interesting race in '08 with a lot of resources from the Democrats. Right now the Democrats are going to have to decide between her and Rodney Tom -- who is a pretty decent fellow for being an ex-Republican. Honestly, I like them both; the hard thing about being a Democrat is that sometimes you have two decent people to chose from.

Darcy is an incredible campaigner, she almost took a safe seat from the Republicans. Having Barack Obama come to campaign for her at the end may have helped. The Democrats need more Darcys and Obamas, real ground-up popular politicans who the conventional wisdom thinks do not have a chance.

I think she is right that we need better democrats: http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-12949.htm

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution
and the laws of the United States, including sections 302 and 303 of the
Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 ("Act") (50 U.S.C. 1801,
et seq.), as amended by Public Law 103- 359, and in order to provide for
the authorization of physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes
as set forth in the Act, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) of the Act, the
Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a
court order, to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of
up to one year, if the Attorney General makes the certifications
required by that section....

WILLIAM J. CLINTON

THE WHITE HOUSE,
February 9, 1995.

Bush took that ball and ran with it to its extreme conclusion, but we can't assume that anybody running as a (D) is a complete progressive. In general, I do not see why the polticians are so scared to run these cases through the regular courts. They can certainly deal with confidentiality issues in running investigations; we have no problems bugging mob bosses. I think the real fear is that the information will come to light later and embarass the government.

Vote for a Dem.......blah, blah, blah......now report on the Dems caving AGAIN to Bush.......now, vote for a Dem people.

And another thing. Lets get rid of the "Blue and Yellow dog" Democrats. Those are the ones
that give bush what he wants......

Don Davis @ 5:

NONE THE WISER FOR FISA, DEMS ALLOW BUSH TO INSTALL ‘NANNY-CAMS’ IN THEIR OFFICES

I know your joking, but a republican that ran against David Wu(D) wanted to install camera in the all govt services offices, to increase work efficiency. Little did he know that they are doing the work of 2 people or more. That was one of his platform, to spy on govt workers. It just seem surreal that a bizarre movie called, "Brazil" would actually become a reality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_(film)

Roty,

Let me guess.... Montana Freemen?

From Wikipedia:

"The Montana Freemen were a Christian Patriot group based in Montana, United States, near the town of Jordan. The Montana Freemen believed in the doctrine of individual sovereignty as expounded by the Sovereign Citizen Movement, and rejected the authority of the U.S. Federal Government. As a result of these beliefs, they attempted to set up their own parallel systems of government ("Justus Township"), common-law court, banking, and credit. They became publicly known during their 81-day-long standoff with U.S. Federal Marshals from March 25 through June 13, 1996."

Second guess.... tell the ward nurse when he or she makes the rounds that your meds are out of whack again.

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