Glenn Greenwald on FISA and Domestic Wiretapping
By Nicole Belle Monday Aug 06, 2007 11:01am
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My personal favorite journalist, Amy Goodman, interviews Glenn Greenwald and Marjorie Cohn about the slippery slope of the FISA bill that the Democrats caved on last week and the ramifications for oversight when the bill "sunsets" in six months.
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Very serious subject. Thanks.
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i try to watch democracynow.org as much as i can they are 1 of the few actual journalist sources left that are untainted by corporate interests and propoganda.
Arepublicans and democrats on same side.
here is the entire discussion http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/06/1340209
Bush planning on ending the United States as we know it.
all for corporate greed.
The Senate Judiciary Committee needs to get Comey up again, under oath, and find out what those other 'authorized' covert programs were. Something smells impeachable.
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This is treason by the administration against the Constitution. [Deleted. DO NOT ADVOCATE VIOLENCE ON THIS SITE]
Glenn Greenwald was on the CSPAN Washington Journal this morning debating David Rivkin (Aug. 7th). Great job Glenn and keep up the great work. We have to keep reminding these people over and over what the 4th amendment to the constitution actually says.
http://www.c-span.org/
Great, so Congress has no idea the extent of the domestic spying, so they put additional power in the hands of Gonzo and Rove who already have a history of attempting to marginalize the democratic vote and steal elections.
Is this the first step of a fatal path to giving the '08 elections to the Rethugs in spite of all their criminal behavior and public opinion? Does the bush cabal now go into overtime work to dig up dirt on their adversaries?
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cynic @ 6:
it's obvious that no one has any plans on impeaching anyone. anything they find that is an impeachable offense, they will just make it a legal.
Slippery slope is right. Liberty isn't lost at the time when your rights are personally violated. They're lost at the moment that power is given to violate them.
Our employees in Congress has once again given the executive branch the power to take our rights, and some future president, with all this power, just might end up as a bigger nightmare than Bush. I feel he's the tip of the iceberg.
But this slippery slope has been coming for years. We've allowed our government to violate the constitution, well "bend the rules" for many years...ostensibly for good reasons. But, when you allow politicians to do that over and over - eventually you end up with politicians who feel the rules don't apply at all.
Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
All three branches of government have been working against our liberty, in my opinion. Well, that's my rant. Read on for more if you'd like:
"The Federal Assault on our Freedoms"
http://www.populistamerica.com/the_federal_assault_on_our_freedoms
cynic @ 6:
Something? wtf?! A president can be impeached and removed from office if the public doesn't like the way he's serving the country! It does not NECESSARILY even require him to have broken the law. If he has broken the law, then after impeachment AND removal from office (two separate actions, mind you), THEN he can be tried criminally. Impeachment is NOT reserved for criminal behaviours, it is the means to FIRE A PRESIDENT/OFFICIAL, just like your boss can fire YOU if you don't do what is required of you. Not to pick on you, cynic... just pointing out that ppl's ideas of 'impeachable' has been framed by both their lack of education and the matter of waiting for someone in the media to tell them WHICH CHOICES TO DEBATE ABOUT. Think for yourselves, people! the Constitution was written by normal humans, it is not beyond your own comprehension. ACTUALLY READ IT, and force the government to comply - don't just sit there and let the government (or purchased-and-house-trained media companies) tell YOU what its limitations and flaws are!
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I happened to watch this yesterday. It's a really good summary and discussion. That law and the vote are really, really disappointing.
O Really @ 11 says: OK Here It is. In this wireless/digital age, You can not tell where a phone call or email is coming from or going to anymore. So…. you HAVE to tap them all.
Are you serious?
Democracy Now! should be required listening.
oversight @ 9:
thanks i just went to c-span just now and it looks like they are currently replaying it.
mister mix @ 12:
The only thing that's obvious is that many members of Congress need public opinion out in front of them before they find the cojones to take on the national security establishment. A principal way of accomplishing that end that could lie in revealing what Greenwald called "so illegal, so unconscionable."
Sorry, but this is no time for fashionable cynicism (my nick aside).
O Really @ 11:
No sir, YOUR thinking (or lack thereof until you believed everyone else was finally dumber than you so you'd LOOK smart) is what led to this in the first place! If proper restrictions on infingement of ppl's privacy were kept, the precedent wouldn't be there to show FISA as debate-worthy at all!
If you want to understand, ACTUALLY understand privacy laws, you must delve into civil laws called INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY (IP) LAW. It highlights why musicians aren't paid well for their music, but the people who own the tape that records it do. It highlights how you DON'T OWN THE INFORMATION ON YOUR COMPUTER BECAUSE THE COMPANY THAT WROTE THE CODE ONLY SELLS YOU THE RIGHT TO USE IT. If you don't own it, then the government can search it, as well as its creators! idiots. Possession is 9/10th of the law, people. Why do you think the first inalienable rights given to people are 'life liberty and LAND!" not persuit of happiness originally, but LAND. because owning LAND (property) was paramount to your subsequent rights! jackasses.
People like you disgust me, sir, for your arrogance and small-minded tunnel vision. You think this is simply a governmental problem? no, it stems from corporations buying their own powers from the government on bribe. then, the government can usurp their powers for their mutual gains together. twit.
Lastly, you CAN, in fact, trace where every call is made in the digital age, MUCH more easily than you used to. THERE ARE GPS CHIPS IN EVERY CELL PHONE, and you get a list of every call you made on your bill. The company knows just who you called, when you called them, where you were at the time, how much time you spent talking, and they CAN, when they choose, save your conversations digitally for very little storage space (you don't need hi-def phone records, they only have to be intelligible). now how smart are you, sir? now how futile is your argument that liberals are worse than conservatives? big-business started this mess, and your blindness and everyone else's apathy stirred it up. Bush can hardly be blamed anymore for taking the power from the people, they almost seem to drugged up to warrant having it. luckily, there are those of us awake enough to stop it, if we get up and DO SOMETHING.
O Really @ 11:
Is this guy for real? I'm surprised he knows how to turn on a computer. Wow. And he probably votes. God help us.
O Really @ 11:
Shut up and enlist you mouth breathing - warmonger - buy into anything the moron's in charge tell you... Just STFU and go to Iraq. Maybe we'll see you in 10 years.
O Really @ 11:
our thinking is "pointless"? huh? pointless?
there is no point to our thinking? is that what you are trying to say? i need a reichwing-to-english dictionary to help me sort thru your tortured thoughts. wait, president bush, is that you?
of course any american that WANTS to be spied on by the govt is confused anyhoo.
moving on...
The best part of the interview was at the end when Amy Goodman asked Marjorie Cohn how the U.S. occupation of Iraq could come to an end. Ms. Cohn replied that there are two things that must be done. The first is that the Iraqis must begin to take control of their country. The second is what helped to bring an end to the Vietnam War [as evidenced by the documentary Sir! No Sir!] and that is to have more and more soldiers refuse to take part, as Lt. Watada has explained in his speech last year at the Veterans for Peace convention in Seattle, in this illegal and immoral occupation of Iraq.
Democracy NOW!
Tuesday, August 7th, 2007
Freedom Next Time: Filmmaker & Journalist John Pilger on Propaganda, the Press, Censorship and Resisting the American Empire
"Ironically, I began to understand how censorship worked in so-called free societies when I reported from totalitarian societies. During the 1970s I filmed secretly in Czechoslovakia, then a Stalinist dictatorship. I interviewed members of the dissident group Charter 77, including the novelist Zdener Urbanek, and this is what he told me. "In dictatorships we are more fortunate that you in the West in one respect. We believe nothing of what we read in the newspapers and nothing of what we watch on television, because we know its propaganda and lies. Unlike you in the West. We've learned to look behind the propaganda and to read between the lines, and unlike you, we know that the real truth is always subversive." "
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/07/130258
http://play.rbn.com/?url=demnow/demnow/demand/2007/aug/video/dnB20070807...
Lets face it .... the police state is here already. From the National Level, through the State Level and even the local level.
Reid and Pelosi better get with the program or it will all be lost.
You can watch more of Glenn Greenwald on C-SPAN. He is at minute 45 of today's washington journal (08/07).
http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Series&Code=WJE&ShowVidNum=9&Rot_...
The best decision I ever made, was dumping cable TV for DISH. They have the 2 best channels: Free Speech TV & LINK-TV, on all packages, including Democracy NOW! news, which SMOKES ANBCBSNNX corporate controlled agenda news.
They should just scrap the whole FISA thing.
I mean really, secret courts? In America?
anonymous @ 14:
Uh... no. I would suggest that you actually read the Constitution before quoting it. I happen to have a bookmark for just such an emergency.
Article One, Section 2, Clause 5: The House of Representatives shall choose their speaker and other officers; and shall have the sole power of impeachment.
Article Two, Section 4: The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment, for and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery and other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Article Three, Section 3: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
Now, the House can certainly try to impeach on anything they want. They have that sole power (as above) but unless the President has actually committed a crime, they can't get ( in theory ) a legitimate conviction in the Senate. Impeachment is rather like a criminal indictment in that manner. You can try to indict on any damned thing you want. But unless a crime has been committed, you're not going to get a conviction. You have to prove that he is guilty, just like any other trial ( at least before Bush took us off the deep end anyway ).
'Public doesn't like the way he's serving the country!' Is not illegal by any statute in the United States. Hate to break it to you. Even worse is that the President can continue to claim executive privilege on everything until impeachment proceedings start. So, trying to gather evidence is effectively impossible. Once impeachment proceedings start, United States v Nixon set the precedent that executive priv doesn't apply against criminal investigations. So, what we need is someone to come forward and rat out Bush, which isn't going to happen.
Treason has a very precise US legal definition as well which George W. Bush has not met. See Article III above.
Up until Sunday he could have been impeached on FISA violations. Which he and his pet AG both gleefully admitted to and were a felony with a 5 year and/or $10,000 penalty for each count. Unfortunately our Dems just sold us down the pike and gave Bush a get out of impeachment free card on those charges.
So there you have it - we're screwed.
Big Dan @ 26:
THANK YOU, BIG DAN! YOU ARE THE MAN! Remember this quote, America. WTFU right now and burn those words into your brain. Then go DO SOMETHING
no need to say my "personal" favorite journalist is there? bit redundant.
Michael @ 8:
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E in Md @ 31:
No, that's simply defeatist. other high crimes and MISDEMEANORS, if you actually look at the words, means an action unbecoming of one's demeanor. Also, if they swore an oath to uphold the constitution by SERVING THE PEOPLE, not serving them is a misdemeanor, is it not? so, YES YOU CAN IMPEACH FOR NOT SERVING THE PUBLIC. it is simply not criminal after that, so they can't go to jail for it.
Go ahead Bush and Cheney.. keep our country safe…..
Including Journalists and American Citizens.
The people know....
The key issue to understand with the FISA vote is…
all the illegal activities the administration was engaged in have now been made legal.
...The bill that was PUT IN PLACE because of the political and CRIMINAL abuse since NIXON - to protect OUR CONSTITUTION.
And now a question for all of the representatives that voted to coverup these illegal actions:
Which Americans have they been spied on since 2001 -And Why?
Very soon.. Congressional Representatives will be meeting with their constituents
to find out what is REALLY going on in Washington D.C.
On another subject of political abuse that was established because of the NIXON criminal era - what else has been overturned by Bush since 2001?
On October 21, 2001, Bush signed an intelligence "finding" instructing the CIA to engage in "lethal covert operations" - affecting and reversing the previous Executive Order 11905....
"Restrictions on Intelligence Activities," Section 5(g), entitled "Prohibition on Assassination," states: "No employee of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, political assassination."
Just exactly who has been assassinated since Bush reversed Executive Order 11905?
Who were they? When? And Where?
Does Congress have a list?
Big Dan at #29
Very well said.
oh, yeah, and glad to see you're spending your time quoting the Constitution to whine about how screwed we are. real productive. Did your high school Am. Government teacher show you how to do that, too?
Nancy Pelosi calls for a four term Presidency.
Staff Writer - The Disassociatiated Press
In other news Nancy Pelosi introduced a bill on the floor that would allow US Presidents to serve up to four terms. In an interview she noted, "Sure, some people may worry that this just opens the door to allowing Bush another eight years in Oval Office, but I think we can accomplish a lot in that time. And just think of the good that a Democrat can do with with four consecutive terms in office! I think this is the right thing for the country at this time and I urge my fellow democrats to get behind this legislation and put an end to partisan politics."
weaseldog... are you serious? is that real? for the love of God, I hope its not
One can watch the entire interview here. (that link really should be in the main post if only to credit the source...)
My personal favorite journalist, Amy Goodman
I agree. Her show, DemocracyNow! is outstanding.
AMY GOODMAN: And he said, "well some of them are tasteless". And we said,
"well, war is tasteless". I was speaking at St. Mark's Church in New York and
I talked about how Al Jazerra shows all these casualties pictures and a
journalist came up to me afterwards from Berlin and said, "It's not just Al
Jazeera that's showing these. All over Europe we see them day and night. It's
just here in the United States that you don't see them". And so we asked Aaron
Brown, "Why don't they show some of the shots", you know CNN was kicked out of
Baghdad and he said "it's tough to get those shots". You have no trouble
taking Al Jazeera's footage of the bombs over Baghdad, the kind-of fireworks
display that we saw that night scape, but when it came to taking their
pictures of casualties. Well, he said, "they're tasteless".
I really do think that if for one week in the United States we saw the true
face of war, we saw people's limbs sheered off, we saw the kids blown apart,
for one week war would be eradicated. Instead what we see in the U.S. media
and it's just quite astounding, it's the video war game. Those gray-grainy
photographs with a target on them looking down but you don't see, we don't see
those people as the targets on the ground.
E in Md @ 31:
E in Md @ 31:
could a judge issue felonies to members of congress who authorized the new FISA bill?
the program is illegal, and punishable by felony.
ergo
[darla, We thought you left. You said you were going as in "still censoring comments
so much for free speech on C&L
i think i’ll cancel my membership" What happened?]
anonymous @ 35:
anonymous @ 35:
The White House did tell the Iranians who all of our covert agents are. The Iranians promptly had a hanging party, executing those Iranians that were suspected of giving aid and comfort to Valerie Plame’s operatives.
Bush gave OBL and the Taliban a three month head start, so they could get away and escape to Pakistan. He told them on television that we would wait three months to go after them. This gave OBL time to escape (if he’s alive).
He invited Iraqis to fight back against the US when he said, “Bring em’ on!”.
His administration has given the enemy billions of dollars and thousands of free weapons and munitions.
His administration concentrated on securing only the oil facilities, while giving orders to stand down as insurgents looted armories and munition dumps for weapons to use later on US troops.
He suspended habeus corpus, and gave the military the authority to torture people as a matter of policy.
He broke multiple treaties which have the legal binding of federal law. Such as the Geneva Convention.
These are the Democrats that we questions for.
They are the ones that voted WITH the coverup Republicans.
Why?
Rep. Jason Altmire [D, PA-4] Aye
Rep. John Barrow [D, GA-12] Aye
Rep. Melissa Bean [D, IL-8] Aye
Rep. Dan Boren [D, OK-2] Aye
Rep. Leonard Boswell [D, IA-3] Aye
Rep. F. Allen Boyd [D, FL-2] Aye
Rep. Christopher Carney [D, PA-10] Aye
Rep. Ben Chandler [D, KY-6] Aye
Rep. Jim Cooper [D, TN-5] Aye
Rep. Jim Costa [D, CA-20] Aye
Rep. Robert Cramer [D, AL-5] Aye
Rep. Henry Cuellar [D, TX-28] Aye
Rep. Artur Davis [D, AL-7] Aye
Rep. Lincoln Davis [D, TN-4] Aye
Rep. Joe Donnelly [D, IN-2] Aye
Rep. Thomas Edwards [D, TX-17] Aye
Rep. Brad Ellsworth [D, IN-8] Aye
Rep. Bob Etheridge [D, NC-2] Aye
Rep. Barton Gordon [D, TN-6] Aye
Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin [D, SD-0] Aye
Rep. Brian Higgins [D, NY-27] Aye
Rep. Baron Hill [D, IN-9] Aye
Rep. Nicholas Lampson [D, TX-22] Aye
Rep. Daniel Lipinski [D, IL-3] Aye
Rep. James Marshall [D, GA-8] Aye
Rep. Jim Matheson [D, UT-2] Aye
Rep. Mike McIntyre [D, NC-7] Aye
Rep. Charles Melancon [D, LA-3] Aye
Rep. Harry Mitchell [D, AZ-5] Aye
Rep. Collin Peterson [D, MN-7] Aye
Rep. Earl Pomeroy [D, ND-0] Aye
Rep. Ciro Rodriguez [D, TX-23] Aye
Rep. Mike Ross [D, AR-4] Aye
Rep. John Salazar [D, CO-3] Aye
Rep. Heath Shuler [D, NC-11] Aye
Rep. Victor Snyder [D, AR-2] Aye
Rep. Zackary Space [D, OH-18] Aye
Rep. John Tanner [D, TN-8] Aye
Rep. Gene Taylor [D, MS-4] Aye
Rep. Timothy Walz [D, MN-1] Aye
Rep. Charles Wilson [D, OH-6]
I wonder what these two Republicans know.
They voted with Pelosi against the bill.
Johnson (IL)
Jones (NC)
Ayes: 226 (Democrat: 41; Republican: 185)
Nays: 183 (Democrat: 181; Republican: 2)
Abstained: 23 (Democrat: 9; Republican: 14)
http://www.opencongress.org/roll_call/show/1806
Glenn did an excellent job this morning on C-Span. Rivkin has no respect for the constitution whatsoever. He kept talking about cars being searched. It made me cringe every time he opened his mouth. He is a loyal Bushie and will go down defending this hideous administration.
Usually when he is on television, Rivkin dresses like a clown--today, he was subdued.
He and Victoria Toesing make a good pair--birds of a feather.
darla @ 43:
The courts have no teeth, truly. Of the three branches:
Executive: carries out the enforcement of law. No matter what the court says, if the Executive does not enforce it, it doesn't happen. If the legislature makes it a law, the pres can enforce it.
Legislative: Makes the laws. It doesn't matter what the Executive wants, they make things law or not. If the judiciary doesn't like a law, the legislature can make it an ammendment, which the courts must therefore uphold with the rest of the Constitution.
Judiciary: Keepers of the law and the oaths. If the courts don't like the implications or wording of a law, they can strike it from the recorded law as unconstitutional (hence, it must be against our Constitution to do this, theoretically). Once an ammendment is made, the courts must uphold that ammendment. they cannot enforce a law. they cannot make a law. it doesn't matter anymore what the courts say, given the power that the executive currently has.
This site needs more clips from Amy Goodman and Democracy Now! Keep it up!
daveB. from Oakland @ 48:
i agree. i understand this site is about exposing crooks and liars, but all the clips don't have to come from fox and msnbc.
... I do enjoy Democracy now from time to time... [Deleted. You have no proof of this, and it's taking the thread off topic-Sitemonitor]
It is like having a steak at McDonalds...
41 Democrats are afraid that they can't get re-elected if they don't sell out to the president.
Weaseldog @ 44:
Yes, and that is just a start. I apologize, I never fully made my point. In addition to the notion that the president is WAY beyond the gray-line of 'possibly impeachable' (what I meant to make clear), impeachment proceedings can be started by the People, if Congress votes on it. yes, technically even one citizen can write up a request for impeachment proceedings, let alone large groups of people with thousands of signatures. It has an official term, not just a petition, but I honestly can't think of it. find it on the internet and join up with others to flood congress with these statements.
Awesome show, saw it last night. So now the question is:
How do we dump the Rococco and use this moment begging for renaissance?
[I've deleted the post to which you are responding. It is off-topic-Sitemonitor]
The Smiths Go To Washington @ 45:
Q U E S T I O N:
Is illegally spying on Americans without warrants an American Principle?
Since when is Congress supporting and defending the Constitution by allowing and tolerating it's usurpation through formal votes of unconstitutional proportions? If it were brought before the 50 States to ratify, the nullification of the Fourth Amendment, it would be shot down. So instead, Congress chips away at it element by aspect. And wa-la... The FOURTH AMENDMENT hollowed out by our legislators right before our eyes. Sacrificing Liberty for airs of security... LOL
Q U E S T I O N:
Why is it, for the sake of fighting TERRORISM, American Birth Rights must be sacrificed?
I thought they (sic) hated us for our freedoms? Who's the "THEY" Mr. Presdint? Congress?
The question which begs to be asked remains: Having spent so much time and effort to acquire an incredible amount of power to spy on Americans, go to war based on lies, essentially neutering Congress, can anyone conceive of a scenario where these people willingly cede this awesome power to a Democratic President with a Democratic Congress after the 2008 elections? Does anyone seriously think that on January 20, Bush, Rove and Cheney will just walk away saying thanks for the great time but the Constitution we've been crapping on tells us that it's time to peacefully transition to a new President? Does anyone really believe that? It took 600 years for the Roman Empire to collapse, this American Democracy will not make it half that long thanks to Bush, Cheney and Rove.. Think it can't happen, won't happen here? They've already indicated that they're not telling the Congress and the American people nothing about nothing. Go F yourselves Senators, Representatives...As Bush once said...it's be a great country if it were a dictatorship...as long as he was the dictator.
Good Luck everyone...
mister mix @ 49:
I agree with you. not that C&L is bad by any stretch! It's a great site and does wonders for waking up the public; however, it could use more variety of sources to make it even BETTER!
[I've deleted the post to which you are responding. It is off-topic-Sitemonitor]
Tony Mack @ 56:
Very Insightful, I like your thinking. However, I differ on opinion of possibilities... yes, I could believe that the Bushies would hand it over. They have set everything up to make their money, keep it, and make it grow. They don't care about personally spying on us... the ppl they want to do it now have the power to - CORPORATIONS. Also, it doesn't matter, Democrat or republican. THEY ARE ALL IN POLITICS BECAUSE THEY'RE INDEPENDENTLY WEALTHY. ALL OF THEM (except that former alaskan senator guy, with the water and the rock...) They all have the same things to gain, and give the dumb public two different ideologies to fight over while they do this thing together. it is a principle called 'demeaning the message to the dogs.' in essence, you will never understand the right to rule (and yes, their money is what they believe gives them this right) and so you must be given a dumb half-truth to argue amongst yourselves while they do their Great Work. So yes -- I could see them handing everything over to the Dem's because the dem's won't give back this power the repubs took. so the Bushies get all the money-making benefits and now they don't even have to have the job to do it!
PS i apologize for allowing the troll to take me off topic and applaud the site monitor for keeping the comment section focused.
[Thanks-No worries-Sitemonitor]
Why is it when I hear the term wire tapping I think of Hekyl and Jekyl doing a buck and wing on the telephone wires?
rasta @ 15:
You sent him away without checking for ganja first?
[Who sez? Sitemonitor]
I fear that the more power that is handed over to Bush, the better the chances are that he'll be appointed for a third term.
We used to have a document the laid out the framework of the workings of our government, but we don't use it anymore.
Now we have a government with no real rules or laws. They aren't bound by anything at all.
Be great if the sitemonitor could delete the entire administration as "off topic".
anonymous @ 59
"THEY ARE ALL IN POLITICS BECAUSE THEY’RE INDEPENDENTLY WEALTHY. ALL OF THEM"
I dissagree with this statement. alot of politicians (particulary the one most noticed one) are wealthy. but i know for a fact that some of these politicians, ie Corrine Brown D-FL worked in the Duval Public Schools before entering into politics. you won't find this on wikipedia so don't bother. i know because i know her personally as she is friends of my family. i suspect if you look at the more unpopular politicians you will find that outside their salaries from the the government they would be broke.
I listened to Mr GreenWald speak on C-Span this morning opposite mr. rivkin, then I had my ears assaulted by the bigoted, right wing hate mongers as they called in expressing their fears (I guess if I was a repukulan I would live in fear too), anyway one caller said if you have nothing to fear if you haven't done anything wrong, question does this anal retentive NON thinking right wing FOOL really believe that (oops he doesn't call overseas), he has to be totally brain dead.
You know everything about your friends you know all their acquaintances and you know everythiing about them what they do where they go and who they talk to sure you do, now if one of those alledged friend is now indentified as a person of interest all people who are associate with him become a person of interest.
The wacko believe that their leadership should think for them and tell them what to say ans when to say it (any body see any thing wrong woth this) now the GUILT by association under the Talking Monkeys policy allows him to make your life miserable and to allow you to disappear. Still think this is a good idea.
You are embracing a Moron that used presidential pardon to pardon a TRAITOR so his CRIME FAMILY can endure, a MORON that has a AG that is OUT and OUT lieing to Congress and is totally incompetent that is going to be in charge of over seeing this.The IDIOTS on the right see nothing wrong with it hhhmmmm.
If you have nothing to fear, then why not put webcams in your bedroom and streaming audio from your phones?
ChoicePoint is keeping the recordings of our phone calls and they get hacked a lot.
Glenn's always great on these shows. I wish he had his own radio or tv show
Once these calls start getting leaked, we can start hearing conference calls from executives of major corporations having strategy meeting with their attorneys.
That should be interesting.