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DailyKos founder Markos Moulitisas Zuniga did a great job making DLC Chairman Harold Ford look weak on this morning’s Meet The Press. Towards the end of the segment, Ford, perhaps sensing that Markos had the better of him, reverts to Republican talking points (surprise!):
FORD: I want to do nothing more than ensure that progressive causes and interests are advanced. I want nothing more –and I know you do as well-want Democrats to win…We do nothing but help Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, John McCain and Rudy Giuliani when we argue essentially over semantics…
MOULITSAS: Will you stop going on FOXNews and attacking Harry Reid for abandoning the troops, betraying the troops? Because you just did that a couple of days ago…
FORD: Markos, in all fairness, your site has posted awful things about Jewish Americans…
MOULITSAS: That’s not true…
FORD: Your site has…now you have a site about…something about Cindy Sheehan, she uses it as a…she has a heavy presence there in talking about running against….
MOULITSAS: It’s called “democracy.” If you don’t like regular people, hundreds of thousands of people…you’re gonna have…
FORD: No, I love it…but you can’t be critical of us…
MOULITSAS: Of course…you’re not going to control hundreds of thousands of voices. Your organization has a dozen people, you CAN control that message. And you don’t need to attack Democrats.
How many Lieberman Republican buzzwords to discredit Markos can you count? More with Markos to come…
Filed Under: Blogs, Democratic Party, Meet the Press/Tim Russert
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First and what the heck is wrong with Ford.
Looks like Harold was about to attack Cindy Sheehan. Just like Lieberman, Cheney and Bush. Harold shows which side his bread is buttered on. Sounds like the makings of a new Tennessee For Ford party? (TFF) Ford.
Fuck Harold Ford. Prick.
Kos nailed Ford.
I think the statement Ford made about DKos “posting awful things about Jewish Americans” probably is about Lieberman - an attack against Lieberman must be an attack on Jewish Americans, after all (/sarcasm).
Apparently, Ford has fallen for Faux News talking points.
Somebody slipped Ford a mickey in his Koolaid……and to think that we were all for him in the last election…If he would of won,i suppose he would of been a better option…but still….wtf is he thinking.
Ford is WAY too religious for me. Republican lite.
Ford wants no criticism, especially of Democrats who desert the party and run as independents because they can’t get their own party’s nomination. Ford is simply saying shut up and do it our way.
I hope Markos and his bloggers make Ford even more uncomfortable than before. People like Harold Ford are what’s wrong with the Democratic Party. A party is not democratic if it is ruled top down. The very nature of democracy is a bottom up structure.
Ford does know that he lost, right? Why is he still in campaign mode?
Whose side is this guy on, anyway? Seems like ford is simply a lieberman “democrat” to me - what with the talk about anti-semitic comments on Kos’ site.
With “friends” like ford, the democrats don’t need more enemies.
…I think Markos also seemed conciliatory toward the end of the piece…One thing Ford said was absolutely accurate: Candidates run to the base in the primaries, and to the center in the general election–no difference in this election cycle–watch & see…
Kos rocks. Harold keeps sucking up to the people that sent money to fund the repubs “he wants your white women” ads
Ford LOST HIS OWN RACE. Shouldn’t that be the answer to everything that fraud says?
Joe junior. Seeking to undermine the Democratic party from within.
(TFF)Ford
“MOULITSAS: Will you stop going on FOXNews and attacking Harry Reid for abandoning the troops, betraying the troops? Because you just did that a couple of days ago…
FORD: Markos, in all fairness, your site has posted awful things about Jewish Americans…”
Ford sounds like every republican. When asked a question he doesn’t want to answer, he changes the subject. Moulitsas was talking about Reid, and Ford quickly began talking about Jews. I’m not sure that Ford is in the right party.
When Ford was in his last campaign he tried to stay too close to the middle of the road and we all see where that got him.
harold pulled a lufa boy tact…noting the comments, not the diaries or main posts
and if ford is a progressive, im a commie bastard
….why I’ll bet Bush will be planting a big ole smooch on Harold any day now.
It’s beginning to look like there is an actual democratic debate going on about access and who is defining messages. This is not something you will see from Republicans that walk in lock step with one another.
It sets the Dems up for criticism that they are disorganized…. and they may well be — but the discussion is happening whilst all the Republican candidates are sepaking the same language and the voters will be choosing candidates because of their clothing and haircuts.
I really was offended by Mr. Ford. I really haven’t followed him that much other than wanting him to win last year. However, I was also offended by the way MTP framed this as centrist versus liberal. It seemed like Markos really did not want to attack the DLC as being corporate whores. He seemed ok to let the DLC be labeled as “centrist.”
markos should’ve taken him to task for that. Because it’s not true, and he should’ve forced him to admit his lies.
His name is Ford, but he thinks like an Edsel.
-GSD
Nice to see Meet the Press having Democrats, of different varieties, on ONLY, and not just Republicans or whining ‘former’ Dems like Lieberman. I wonder if Russert would’ve moderated this sort of guest list? Or was it left for a guest host to handle while Russert was on vacation or whatever? Hmm.
Telling Fox Noise to stop attacking Democrats would be like telling the Weekly World News to stop publishing pictures of Bat Boy and Nostradamus predictions. Its just not going to happen.
Jeeze. I used to like Ford too.
But that pisses me off when he employed that Fox News strategy of digging up one crazy comment or diary and smearing the whole site with it.
Fords a moron. After coming up against the right wing hate machine himself in TN he should know better. Hate maill encouraged. Harold, call me!
Professor Farnsworth @ 19:
I just love all the concrete examples that Ford provided of “awful things about Jewish Americans…”
The media is complicit in this kind of hit-and-run “journalism” all the time.
Ford is a punk and he needs to be punked more often.
Who are these two 15-year-olds in the picture? Geez…people are getting young these days.
arroyo @ 25:
Yes he should have—and Markos should have insisted that Ford answer his question about Pox News rather than let him change the subject. A typical Repub tactic—don’t like the question—change the subject. What a bunch of slimy goons.
I caught onto Harold Ford Jr. doing this too. Using O’Reilly’s dishonest tactics to smear the Daily Kos just proved Markos’s point about the DLC and its chairman. I mean, to equate what he himself said about Harry Reid against something that MAYBE someone posted in the comments section on his website at some point, as if to say Markos himself said them, is just sad and makes Ford Jr. look stupid.
Bill O’Reilly will now say even the head of the DLC says the Daily Kos is like the KKK. What a complete asshole Ford is. Remember, when the NJ Supreme Court said that NJ had to come up with something equivalent to marriage for gay couples, Ford took a break from his campaigning in Tennessee to go on the Imus in the morning program to condemn the court for taking such an action. How ironic. What a complete and total asshole - the definition of a Fox Democrat.
Don’t forget Harold Ford is a guest on MTP today, he collects a paycheck from Newscorp (which is Fox ) because he has a CONTRACT with them–so naturally he his going to veer in Fox’s direction.
I gave him money too. Sorry now.
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Err, wait;
he loves democracy, but not when it includes critique of anyone on his side?
Did I get that one correct?
The Ford family money came from the funeral home business which prepared Harold for his senate run and the DLC.
I am glad FORD lost , why because he is a SOCK-PUPPET to LIE-berman. Enough said. NO I am not a person that do not like Jews or Blacks, for one I will take MANCINE WALTERS over H. CLINTON any day, then we have Russ Feingold I wish he would run for PRESIDENT, these are my type of DEMOCRATS.
Just remember to unplug your cable from your TV when you watch these Sunday shows, especially Fox and get the urge to say something embarrassing about Bush Co or Iraq.
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Hail To The Chimp Says:
“First and what the heck is wrong with Ford.”
Answer: Ford is a Clinton Democrat, the kind Jerry Brown warned us was a Wall street candidate.
See NAFTA.
The sad part is that the progressive bloggers had a love fest with Bill Clinton a while back.
I learned about it on this site. Clinton is the great triangulator. He and Hillary will talk your talk just enough to get more goodies for the Wall Street crowd.
The only good thing he did was stop Newt dead in his tracks with the government shutdown.
pissed off patricia @ 14:
Do I have to remind you what Jim Hightower said about the middle of the road? ;-) That the only thing in the middle is yellow lines and dead armadillos.
Bush Bites @ 23:
This is what I found disturbing, too. Ford’s instinctive response to “why are you attacking Harry Reid” was “somebody found some anti-Semitic comment on your site.” This puts him squarely in the camp of blog-hating journalists, and for the same reason. “Hey, I worked hard and grabbed the brass ring. I’m head of the DLC. But suddenly, that’s worthless. And it’s your fault, you evil blogger, you! Waaaahhhh!”
I suppose that Ford can back that up by finding a vitriolic comment about the Israeli lobby or something; even O’Reilly usually has that much. But even so, he’s comparing apples to oranges and showing no indication that he comprehends the difference. How is “Markos hates Jews, nyahh nyahh” related to Ford’s treachery to Reid and other Democrats?
Second, and possibly worse, is the idea that there’s something wrong with providing Cindy Sheehan an e-soapbox. The word for anti-democratic politicians is not “centrist.” It’s “Republican.”
omglawl @ 24:
Southern Democrats still feel they have to run right to stay in the “mainstream”.
It’s good for the Democratic Party to have different factions and sides. My biggest issue with the Republican Party is that they act like a cult. They put the Party over the country and the Party over themselves and it sickens me. I always liked the fact that the Democrats accepted varying viewpoints so even though I hate Lieberman, I think people like him are necessary for the party because it allows a entry for others who may not be Progressive in their ideals, but are totally dissatisfied with the Republicans.
blackjack @ 35:
Mine, too. BTW, it is Maxine Waters.
See inside-the-Beltwayers? Honesty isn’t that hard. Try it!!!
He and Lieberman are Fox Democrats. Which is to say, Democrat bashers. They can go to hell.
Shorter Great Orange Satan: “Ford, no gives a rats ass about you or the DLC anymore.”
Remember, when the NJ Supreme Court said that NJ had to come up with something equivalent to marriage for gay couples, Ford took a break from his campaigning in Tennessee to go on the Imus in the morning program to condemn the court for taking such an action.”
I know, and he ran a blatantly anti-gay campaign in ‘06. And yet he can say with a straight face: “I want to do nothing more than ensure that progressive causes and interests are advanced.” What an f’ing joke! What you advance is hate, you backstabbing monster.
Harold Ford-Lieberman (I)
Harold Ford is one of the least impressive minds and voices in the Democratic Party. And progressive he ain’t.
Isn’t Ford the guy that James Carville wanted to replace Howard Dean at the DNC? How lame.
Ford is clearly on the Roger Ailes/Karl Rove payroll. That Jewish quip was a “save me” talking point and a total Fox wingnut tactic. Ford is a spy, a traitor to his alleged party.
but Democrats need to be attacked. The fatal flaw of Daily Kos and Media Matters, et al. is that they put party above the professed “progressive” thought. They defend non-liberal, hypocritical dems like Hilary at the cost of their own credibility. to say that our beloved democrats are enablers of neo cons is being kind. PLEASE, MARKOS, STOP EQUATING the word Democrat with the word Liberal. It’s unfortunately, pathetically untrue.
Many think Kos is moving the party left. But I think he’s defining a new party. There is a clear divide betwee