The FCC needs to shut FOX News down, if for nothing else for being an oxymoron.

Those SOBs are really trying to rewrite history. Isn’t this illegal?

It bodes well with the White House’s revisionist history tactics. No surprise.

US government changes wikis. At work. On official duty hours. While they’re supposed to be proessing FISA warrants. No time to follow FISA. Plenty of time to update wikis. Gonzalez knows he is lying about having “insufficient staff”. NSA personnel do the same. BS story from McConnel on having manning shortage. No, it’s called a leadership problem.

The evidence is on the wikis. Tell Congress to subpoena all the US government wiki-updates; this will tell you what the US government was doing during 9-11; and when they were supposedly “too busy” to follow the Geneva Conventions and FISA requirements.

I think it would be an error to make too much of this. All you can conclude is that someone with access to the internet from Fox News has done this, not that Fox News itself is behind it. You are falling into the same trap as LGF when they conclude that the NYTimes is behind similar edits. (Personally, I find the Diebold eliminations of criticisms of that firm the most egregious examples of this type of thing.)

Busted!

Technology will bite you in the ass.

That’s the problem with Wikipedia. Anyone can edit it for their own purposes - even political ones.

Someone should document all the Fix News Wikipedia edits. It would be really interesting seeing how unfair and unbalanced they have been across the board.

nice.

i’m glad this is being “exposed”

although i still amazes me that people consider wikipedia a “source” or a “reference”

yes, there is a lot of interesting info, but any source that you requires another source to verify its claims is not, well, a good source. it is disinformation intertwined with good information, and it takes an astute person to wade thru that minefield.

remember colbert and the elephants on wikipedia???

they went through the trouble of editing their own punctuation mistakes… LMAO

fascinating to see how the minds of the corporate media work - spread falsehoods, but keep your spelling impeccable!

I’m sorry, I’m a wiki idiot. What happens now? Can the edits be re-edited? Are they subject to a vote? Or are they now the wiki of record?

I would think the Ministry of Truth could cover of their tracks better. Winston Smith will get an earful for this one.

Good one Doug… :-)

You try to use propaganda for the current news, what ever you missed you go back and try to re-write it. I thought this is what the Republican party platform is……. www.YouPolls.com help bring out the truth, Check it out - become a member and add your own content.

I wonder if Keith Olberman would like to know about this? Betcha he would.

Thanks for the IP. I’m going to add to my firewall block list :)

GO DEMOCRASHIELD! WAY TO KEEP TRUTHINESS ALIVE! Look everyone: this is what we mean when we say “DO something!”. I only wish I were that active and diligent in uncovering this stuff. That data is perfectly irrefutable. You sir, are awesome!

*does the happy freedom dance* score one for the home side! woo hoooooo!

Did anybody else catch the Olberman and Franken edits????

Why in the world would Fox News want to … BWAH HAA HAA!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry. Hard to keep a straight snark when dealing with these vermin.

incredible - i see a whole hour of countdown being devoted to this!

If anyone still needed proof that Fox News is a propaganda operation, that did it.

I didn’t see it on the list, but I could SWEAR Rupert Murdoch’s page has been edited between yesterday and my previous visit…the part about his becoming a US citizen was pared down to the date. There used to be more to it-LIKE THE CONTROVERSY surrounding it…

“His 1985 purchase of the Metromedia television stations required him to become an American citizen to comply with Federal Communications Commission (FCC) restrictions on foreign ownership of U.S. television stations; many felt he received inordinately preferential treatment by the Reagan administration in expediting the citizenship process.” Duh :roll:

http://www.museum.tv/archives/.....chrupe.htm

No mention of loads of truly ugly shit the guy has done…

i like to get a good laugh now and then, which generally means venturing into reichwing-blog land…

and guess what the top story on LGF is? (if you do not know what “LGF” is, consider yourself lucky. i’m not saying. sorry)

Wikipedia EditGate: NYT Vandalism:
Here’s another edit made by a New York Times employee, at the Wikipedia page for Condoleezza Rice: Wikipedia scanner results.

true? untrue? (well, it is LGF, and 99.9% of there “information” is handed down from their corporate master, designed to secure totalitarianism in america, but i’m getting ahead of myself)

either way, wikipedia is to reference as drudge is to news. completely untrustworthy.

Now you see why Wikipedia is a no-no as a reference in most decent schools or businesses.

For an interesting read about such things check out “Cult of the Amateur” by Andrew Keen.

What’s funny is that the Fox IP address wouldn’t have been exposed if they had just taken the time to register at Wikipedia. It would still have become apparent that someone with a pro-Fox bias was at work, but it wouldn’t have led directly to their doorstep.

Biffbolt @ 5:

I think it would be an error to make too much of this. All you can conclude is that someone with access to the internet from Fox News has done this, not that Fox News itself is behind it. You are falling into the same trap as LGF when they conclude that the NYTimes is behind similar edits. (Personally, I find the Diebold eliminations of criticisms of that firm the most egregious examples of this type of thing.)

Yes, I’m sure Fox will hold a fair and balanced investigation into the improper use of a company computer on company time and punish the kool-aid saturated perp severely.

Spoiler alert for OJs book, “If I Did It”: …he did it!

Some low level intern is going to lose their job over this, then Faux News will start pulling this crap from their home internet accounts. Just my $.02.

So? Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia anyone can edit. There’s no law against an employee of FOX editing articles.

In fact, people are entitled to edit articles on themselves at Wiki. The only requirement is that your edits conform to a neutral POV, and if they don’t, don’t be suprised to find someone else coming along and challenging, changing or deleting your edits. That’s how Wiki works, it’s a collective enterprise.

Lose their job over this? Hardly. They’ll be ridiculed for not hiding their IP via login, and then they’ll get right back to completing their assignment.

So if somebody is making selective, advantageous edits in Wiki - why doesn’t someone else (who knows what to do that is) go back over the edits and put in the truth or other important and perhaps lesser known facts? Or alert Wiki to what’s going on?

“This is egregious even by FOX standards.”

FOX has standards?

JudyLou @ 2:

Those SOBs are really trying to rewrite history. Isn’t this illegal?

Two things. First, it’s incorrect to say, based on this alone, that Fox News is trying to rewrite history, or rewrite anything for that matter. The most that cna be said is that someone who has access to Fox News computers did this. It can be reasonably inferred that it’s probably a Fox News employee, but there’s absolutely no proof that Fox News, the entity, had anything to do with this.

Secondly, it’s a Wikipedia article. No, there’s nothing against the law in changing the article, even to include baldly false information.

gatto @ 28:

So? Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia anyone can edit. There’s no law against an employee of FOX editing articles.

In fact, people are entitled to edit articles on themselves at Wiki. The only requirement is that your edits conform to a neutral POV…

Neutral POV. I think that may be the point here.

pissed off patricia @ 16:

I wonder if Keith Olberman would like to know about this? Betcha he would.

I second that. He’d get a kick out of this story for sure.

Thanks for the schooling, gatto. Riddle me this: why does it always boil down to what breaks the law, right after the unethical behavior has been exposed?

I love it when a plan comes together.

Zenrage @ 8:

That’s the problem with Wikipedia. Anyone can edit it for their own purposes - even political ones.

Samson- @ 10:

i’m glad this is being “exposed”

although i still amazes me that people consider wikipedia a “source” or a “reference”

yes, there is a lot of interesting info, but any source that you requires another source to verify its claims is not, well, a good source. it is disinformation intertwined with good information, and it takes an astute person to wade thru that minefield.

remember colbert and the elephants on wikipedia???

What you guys (and a lot of people) don’t understand is that Wikipedia is a project still under heavy development. The answer to a lot of your epistemic worries will be the first *stable* edition of Wikipedia, probably coming up in a year or so ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W.....orial_Team ).

In reality every liberal should support this project: In time it will provide free and neutral (as neutral as it gets) information to the people, which will be a major weapon against rightwing distortions in the future.

Fox is so pathetic. They are outsourcing their Pravdaism to all parts of the internet. Murdoch owning every paper and mag under the sun isn’t good enough for them. I’m tired of seeing Norm “free dental work” Coleman on Faux as well

KOLBERMAN@MSNBC.COM - NO DOUBT SOME LACKY, BUT ONE CAN ONLY HOPE FOR A SPECIAL COMMENT…MAYBE OR AND EXTENDED ‘WORST PERSON(S)’….*FINGERS CROSSED.

rcm @ 9:

Someone should document all the Fix News Wikipedia edits. It would be really interesting seeing how unfair and unbalanced they have been across the board.

Somebody HAS documented them all! Gotta love tech geeks… (List of Fox News Wiki edits)

They will lie about it, then next time they will use anonymous routers (TOR) or some service to hide their IP. In their war on truth someone just got a little sloppy.

DJ in KC @ 30:

Lose their job over this? Hardly. They’ll be ridiculed for not hiding their IP via login, and then they’ll get right back to completing their assignment.

Exactly. They’ll just start using proxy IPs… and if they’re clever enough, post bullshit from IPs that are linked to other MSM outlets or liberal/progressive sites.

Isnt that something.

As a programmer who has been programming since 10 megs of disk was a 2foot disc, it sure has changed over the years. We can learn alot from IP audit logs in the new systems environment.

1) originating location, Corporation, Individual
2) Trolling
3) Hacking
4) Crony outsourced attacks on web sites
5) web site defacements
6) virus spammers
7) spammers clogging up activists email boxes
8) data theft
9) online

Too bad we dont have a functional United States Justice Department
to “follow up” on all of the criminals.

Oh. I just remembered criminals, coverup artists and liars run the Justice Department.
And now they are spending our tax dollars spying on Americans who are a bit concerned that they are loosing their Constitution.

But as the technical advisors of the production of “Firewall” with Harrison Ford knew.
Keep those logs and audits logging.

http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/wikiwatch/

Anjoe @ 38:

Zenrage @ 8:

That’s the problem with Wikipedia. Anyone can edit it for their own purposes - even political ones.

Samson- @ 10:

i’m glad this is being “exposed”

although i still amazes me that people consider wikipedia a “source” or a “reference”

yes, there is a lot of interesting info, but any source that you requires another source to verify its claims is not, well, a good source. it is disinformation intertwined with good information, and it takes an astute person to wade thru that minefield.

remember colbert and the elephants on wikipedia???

What you guys (and a lot of people) don’t understand is that Wikipedia is a project still under heavy development. The answer to a lot of your epistemic worries will be the first *stable* edition of Wikipedia, probably coming up in a year or so ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W.....orial_Team ).

In reality every liberal should support this project: In time it will provide free and neutral (as neutral as it gets) information to the people, which will be a major weapon against rightwing distortions in the future.

ok, fine.

buuuuut, in the meantime….

(also, i had to giggle–hee hee–that that info came from wikipedia….)

anyhoo, if that is their goal, great. but until then, it is 100% untrustworthy.

They are so stupid at Faux they do it right out of the building. Not smart enough to do it from a staffers house or some place untraceable. No wonder they misspell and mislabel in their broadcast scroll. Corrupt idiots who can’t even do corruption correctly.

i love ip address sleuthing. way to go. i wonder if it’s possible to catch people at faux news, etc. posting “hate speech” on message boards. perhaps even false flag comments to use against the “far left” blogs on programs liks say… i don’t know…
just a thought. seems like the people over at faux may even have some sort of internet intelligence operation going on. sorry, i mean unintelligence operation.

Here’s an interesting sidenote. Fox News poster boy Matt Sanchez (aka Rod Majors, Excellent-Top) has been vandalizing the WP bios of liberal bloggers like Max Blumenthal and John Aravosis. Here’s an example of his handiwork. He edits under the username “Bluemarine.”

Not to toot my own horn or anything but I posted a link to the origin of this story yesterday. Check out my post.

gatto @ 28:

So? Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia anyone can edit. There’s no law against an employee of FOX editing articles.

In fact, people are entitled to edit articles on themselves at Wiki. The only requirement is that your edits conform to a neutral POV, and if they don’t, don’t be suprised to find someone else coming along and challenging, changing or deleting your edits. That’s how Wiki works, it’s a collective enterprise.

Excellent to know and now nobody will use it thinking somehow the information there is valid or true.

Of course they revised the fact that Brit’s son committed suicide, because as we all know, conservatives are perfect in every way. They are not weak like us progressives! They don’t commit suicide, they don’t get arrested for offering blowjobs in a bathroom, and they certainly don’t have kids that turn gay (just ask Phyllis Schafley, or Dick Cheney)…