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bluegal on Thursday, August 16th, 2007 at 8:30 PM - PDT
CNN.com: Federal ID plan raises privacy concerns.
The cards would be mandatory for all “federal purposes,” which include boarding an airplane or walking into a federal building, nuclear facility or national park, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told the National Conference of State Legislatures last week. Citizens in states that don’t comply with the new rules will have to use passports for federal purposes.
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This is ridiculous…those national parks belong to everyone………….
My Wisconsin embarrassment. :^(
> My Wisconsin embarrassment. :^(
At least you have the great Luke Ski. :-)
*sigh* The rescuers need to be rescued, too. Obama breaks down “experience”.
Whole Foods is allowed to have a monopoly.
Fascists.
More bad craziness at the Crandall Canyon mine. Says at least one death among rescuers from another collapse.
Who is the contractor that’s going to cash in on this one?
No way…..that’s all tinfoil hat wearin conspiracy theorist stuff.
That’s terrible news, Hazy. And we lost a life here in Houston from a roof collapse from our little tropical storm that just went through. But it’s nothing in comparison the the Peruvian earthquake. And our occupation of Iraq.
National ID needed for all “federal purposes?” How long until the barcode tattoos?
RIP Max Roach
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....bit-roach/
This is different to an internal passport how?
internal passport - sorry.
As Nancy Reagan most profoundly taught you, please folks for the sake of your freedom and liberty, “just say no!”
Everything changed after 9/11. If we don’t do this the terrorists will win. USA! USA! USA! OBEY
I can’t tell you the last time there was a terrorist camping next to me in a National Park. Just a couple of bubbas and a 5th of whiskey.
“Let me see your papers.”
Why don’t they just get it over with and have tracking devices implanted in to all of us. Make it much easier for those satellites to track our movements and eavesdrop on us. No more babysteps facists; it’s time to make the U.S. in to the image of a WWII movie where we have the secret police roaming the land asking us for our papers.
Once again I’m left shaking my head and wondering what’s happened to this country. Constantly giving up freedoms for the sake of protecting us from phantom attacks isn’t the way to live our lives. For the Republicans a simple question, if you’re so tough why are you always so afraid?
Peoples Front of Judea @ 11:
Forget that. They can be altered. Next up will be RFID chips inplanted in your brain.
Implanted.* Hope y’all read typo. ;)
> As Nancy Reagan most profoundly taught you, please folks for the sake of your freedom and liberty, “just say no!”
And indeed I learned the lesson well from Nancy Reagan. I just say “no” to people that say to say no to drugs. :-)
I mean, when I get a headache, I just take Asperin!!!! ;-)
Anyone want to talk about physics? An exact science! No theories to it, just math and facts!
I’ve got a potential entry for open threads. It’s Lewis Black’s take on conservapedia and qtube (fake youtube).
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CJEeyLeqJHc
Sounds like such a proposal would suit the voter disenfranchisement movement’s interests beautifully.
No “Real ID”: no voting in presidential elections.
papers. Papers! Surrender your papers or you will be shot!!!
*sigh* Welcome to the Neo-Con World.
It’s time to switch from opposition to resistance. Get out if you can. Stay and fight if you can. Freedom will triumph, it always does, “after we torture the prisoners”.
I’m all for the plan.
I’ve been living in fear that terrorists would fill the Grand Canyon with kitty litter and stuff a giant cork into Old Faithful.
Tequila @ 5:
Time to start a garden, I see. Enough is enough.
By the way, don’t you just love that the Mine Safety Czar was another one of Bush’s recess appointments? Gosh, one might think that Congressional Approval of an office like this would be important to the health and safety of mine workers and rescuers alike.
As if one couldn’t print these so-called “freedom passes.”
chimpy just made a whole new underground market.
Watch, these cards will incorporate, a phone, atm, medical and various other needs in ones everyday life.
Probably it would be used as a ration card when the bottom falls out of the economy.
In other news: US to Label Iranian Revolutionary Guard as Terrorist
The Revolutionary Guard would be the first national military branch included on the list, U.S. officials said — a highly unusual move because it is part of a government, rather than a typical non-state terrorist organization.
The shit is starting.
lafin gas @ 22:
A body in motion tends to stay in motion, a body at rest tends to stay at rest.
The originator of the pic needs to change it slightly. Senselessbrenner is in the House, not the Senate. Anyone remember Senselesbrenner coming in and shutting down a House Judiciary when he was the chair? It’s really gratifying seeing that anti-democratic son of a bitch relegated to the minority party.
GonzoD @ 12:
Oh my God! RIP
Remember the old black and white movies from the fifties. The SS officer stops you on the street, knocks on your door in the middle of the night, boards the train and demands your papers. Is that what is coming?
I take it that national ID is ‘better’ in the neo-cons’ eyes because then law enforcement officers will know who’s a citizen and who’s not, who’s legally in the country and who’s not etc.. Well, if that’s the case, then why not just give law enforcement agencies access to the INS’s database instead? They already have access to the NCIC which is maintained by the FBI for warrants checks and missing persons.
LibertyLover @ 30:
chimpy and his gang don’t care about safety; look how he treat our troops.
fuck that fashist creep that god damned zombie
thanks to the republicans/neocons, we have lost the War on TeRRoRR .
Listen closely , you can hear bin Laden cackling Crypt-keeper style.
The underfunded National Park Service is already busy dealing with forestry corporations who exploit the forests at taxpayer expense. Now they’ll be expected to be security guards checking passes like some minimum wage teen working at a movie theater? Another policy failure for the Bush regime.
I think this is a wonderful idea - yup, I do. I think it should be MANDATORY for all American citizens to have a passport. You betcha, absolutely.
Makes it a whole lot easier to leave the country if you do have one.
Forget the USSR. Thanks to effective technology we’re better and we know all — oh yes.
Count down for eviction has begun, let’s see if the Democrats will do better when they take over. Keep them honest http://www.YouPolls.com
Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious.
LibertyLover @ 32:
What happens when a body in motion collides with a body at rest?
All this is being done deliberately and with a grand plan. Sheesh, I hope some of you guys (and gals) are getting ready for it. Otherwise….
tHeGaMeOfLiFe @ 31:
They’ve been a threat since their inception. Why label them as terrorists *now* though?
> … Why label them as terrorists *now* though?
As a “red-herring”. He has alot to distract from.
Welcome to the police state. Sacrifice your privacy to have your security covered by incompetents and scoundrels.
I would really love to see C&L post this excellent video of Dennis Kucinich…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnKsuzoDalI
Listen to what he says about the DLC. He is so right! He does an excellent job on all the points and I hope more people start supporting him and ignore the media favorites.
let them mess with it, middle america doesn’t understand three trillion on the war, they don’t understand owing our financial existence to china, but they do understand a .05 tax on gasoline per gallon. they don’t understand all the hubbub about homeland security, they don’t understand the big deal about wire tapping, they don’t understand this scandal with jeff gannon and his hundreds of visits to the white house late at night, but they will understand the first time they pack up the trailer and head for jellystone and can’t get in unless they have a passport or security clearance. forgive them for they know not what they wrought. has rove left already????
911 changed everything.
It allowed the GOP to turn America into a big brother fascist state.
lafin gas @ 44:
Why, as you well know, the energy from the body in motion is transfered to the body at rest — sending in into motion.
LibertyLover @ 53:
Like when Dick Cheney’s buckshot collided with the face of that old lawyer sending his once still body in motion to the ground.
when will you say enough is enough?
LibertyLover @ 53:
Not necessarily, many other factors can come into play. Does the moon move out of it’s orbit when hit by a meteorite?
What is the purpose of these national ID cards? Probably so they can contract out to some private corporations and find more ways to WASTE our MONEY! God damn them.