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If you're surprised by this, then you're an idiot. The only place for this fucker is jail!

The Champ is out.

So he's what then, a baron, or a duke?

CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLARS: ‘CONGRESS NO LONGER IN THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH’

He's a Rasputin...

14All @ 8:

Uh, then if he's part of Congress, doesn't Congress still have authority over him? And doesn't that also mean that he doesn't have executive privilege and they can subpoena his ass?

good point. If the Dems were smart, they'd haul his ass up on this technicality of his own making. Too bad the Dems aren't smart.

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The SPINELESS DEMOCRATS will do nothing about this, of course. Why should they? It would only jeopardize their source of bribes, and we will continue to vote for them anyway.

Outrage fatigue at max. Taking a nap now.

Not part of the executive branch? Good. No executive privilege then, huh Dick. So PRODUCE!!

Wild Wild West - Above the law ------------> He intimidates the entire Congress and everyone goes along. Way to go.......

Impeach already!!!!!

Terrible @ 10:

dick cheney is a criminal piece of shit who doesn't belong in any government in any capacity at all.

I disagree. I think Dick would do an excellent job patrolling restrooms in National parks and truck stops along the Interstate in republican states. Think of all the wayward legislators and ministers he could snag..

VeeKaChu @ 5:

So he's what then, a baron, or a duke?

He's a baron... Baron Muenchhausen

GSD @ 16:

Every Shrub needs a Fourth Branch.

-GSD

The hidden forth branch is the media, the fifth branch would be for Cheney.

Democrats better WAKE THE F UP. We're all taking names now. If you spineless AHOLES don't start enforcing the law you'll find yourself, all of you useless pieces of Sh*t, on the other side of it, unemployed.

If he's not part of the Executive then he falls under the Legislative. Let's send the Sargent of Arms around and cart off all the records which (according to him) should be part of the legislative record.

If the VP is taking such naps while at work; he should resign from his post gracefully and so is our president.

Impeach the bastard and [Deleted. Do not advocate violence on this site]

Cheney himself said he will hunt the terrorists AT ALL COSTS. As in, he'll do anything and anything he does he can say he's just going after the terrorists. As well as whom he accuses of helping the terrorists (aka, terrorists @ heart). So basically, he hiding this info because it would help the terrorists. If the terrorist learned of his secrets, he'd be a terrorist. We'd have a terrorist in the White House. Oh wait.

RedRocker @ 37:

Impeach the bastard and [Deleted]

Donald Trump and the Middle-School Drill Team he just married?

LibertyLover @ 2:

Inherent Contempt. I'm just saying. Clean out that out jailhouse in the basement of Congress and lock the guy up with Rove and Harriet. If nothing more than the sheer theatre of it.

I agree wholeheartedly. If he's not part of the executive branch, cancel his paycheck too. And his staffs'... they obviously don't work for the executive branch either.

Im starting to agree with Bill Moyer the dems are pussies.
Why do they keep letting these people get away with all this stuff?

Herbert @ 32:

Some of my pet peeves:

1. The Vice President of the US should be the runner up in a presidential election, therefore adversarial and not a running mate. Currently, a running mate gets into the administration without being elected.

It used to be this way for Washington & Adams, but that model was abandoned because I think the two of them were at each other's throats when Adams was VP to Washington.

2. If the Vice President is not in the Senate where he is supposed to be, what is he doing? What has he been doing all these years??

Shooting attorneys in the face? Making plans to run off to Dubai in 2009?

3. Where is the accountability of our government in general? The absenteeism is worse than a seventh grade class and the voting records should be 100% since "not voting" is also an option...

Considering that the average maturity level of a politician is 7th grade, you shouldn't be surprised.

hit_escape @ 38:

He must think we're idiots. Apparently my democratic leadership can't get a handle on this, so maybe we are idiots.

Umm, the evidence is really in his favor.

lucid fiction @ 46:

Lano @ 45:

Why do they keep letting these people get away with all this stuff?

Simple: because neither the Dems or Repugs give a flying shit
about their constituents. Know them by their fruits.

Impeach the president and vice president, dissolve congress and let's start from scratch.

Harley @ 49:

Leahy is crafting a stern letter now.

Harley @ 49:

Leahy is crafting a stern letter now.

If Leahy doesn't have writers cramp by now he's never going to have it. He should entitle his letters "War and Peace" because by now the stack is probably just as thick......on second thought, "More War Less Peace - The Stern Letters of a Spinless Democrat" would be a more appropriate title.

Cheney has both middle fingers ready and on high alert for Leahy's next stern letter.

Maybe Cheney should look at the White House web site, which indicates that the Vice President and his staff maintain offices in the White House and the Eisenhower EXECUTIVE Office Building.

Or maybe Cheney should read the US Constitution, where he'd find the following:

Article. II. - The Executive Branch

Section 1 - The President

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice-President chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:

Section 4 - Disqualification

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Amendment XII.

The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President...

I could go on, but you get the point. Cheney's argument is stupid, and flies in the face of more than 200 years of US history. The only reason I can think of for making it is that he's trying to divert attention from more substantive issues concerning the way the Bush administration governs. Senator Leahy would do well to slap Cheney down HARD on this point and get Cheney to stop making it once and for all.

Rather than attach jumper cables to his heart, why not just drive a wooden stake through it? It's the only way to kill his kind, ya know.

Wow, then I think I'll claim that I am a messiah in my own
right, get tax exempt status with my body being a
'house of God', and not have to ever pay income taxes again.
Who in the FUCK does he think he is? I'll tell you.
He's a sack of putrid shit.

He is either with the Executive Branch, exclusively. Or he is with BOTH branch. Not either Executive or House. If we accept that his claim as having dual occupation, then he would still be subject to contempt for failure to comply to SUBPEONA. He is also invoilation of OBSTRUCTION of justice by misapplying his authorities in both branch to stonewall a viable investigation of misuse of or abuse of power.

The mere fact that he holds authoritorial power and exercises it to stone wall an justifiable investigation does NOT place him in a bubble outside any laws. His lack of transparency within the government business is in itself an obstruction, for government is one entity with many components. Stonewalling, obstruction with in this one unit of government is like a blood clot to the activities of healthy responsive government. When such a clot exist, it must be removed. IMPEACHMENT is the remedy.

Impeach Cheney the clot before he stroke our democracy into a permanent breakdown.

By the powers of Lucifer, he has been anointed the duke of darkness.

After he receives his paycheck from the executive branch he offers tithes to the repug god, Lucifer.

darth is just another liar who needs to be impeached, tried and jailed for the rest of his stupid life.

How can he and his gang get away with such bullshit? Get the fat slob for obstruction first.

repugs are stupid as hell

Matt in Texas @ 61:

Rather than attach jumper cables to his heart, why not just drive a wooden stake through it? It's the only way to kill his kind, ya know.

I'd sooner castrate the bastard and stick spikes in his eyes, but then again, I am old fashioned.

Democrats are like Charlie Brown wanting to finally kick that football and Cheney is Lucy forever telling him that this time I'll let you kick it and then pulling it away again at the last moment. The Dems fall for it every time.

in the words of the Republicans beloved emperor...."Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again' — George W. Bush."

ysbaddaden @ 72:

chainey should stop talking about which branch he belongs to.

He claimed to be Texan at one time, and you know what we Texans do with tree branches.

Are you implying that we came from monkeys?

tHeGaMeOfLiFe @ 74:

So if darth isn't part of the executive branch, who would take chimpy's place if he dies?

Before or after Jenna is married?

We might have a steward stand in, until Tony becomes an official member of the family.

When are they gonna get smart, and call him on it? No Executive Branch, no Executive Privilege! Frog march 'em to the well of the Senate and get on with it.

tHeGaMeOfLiFe @ 78:

Weaseldog @ 75:

tHeGaMeOfLiFe @ 74:

So if darth isn't part of the executive branch, who would take chimpy's place if he dies?

Before or after Jenna is married?

We might have a steward stand in, until Tony becomes an official member of the family.

Are you talking about tony snow? He jumped ship awhile back.

Also I couldn't care any less about the skank jenna. The ugly bitch.

Oops, meant Henry, not Tony.

'King George', 'King Henry', all traditional kingly names.

Gag @ 81:

OVP Legal assertions are non-sense. They were issued a specific letter with legal counsel name on it. Specter's website has a copy of the subpeona with OVP counsel name on it; the supboena on page 8-9 of all the definitions specifically includes in the "White House" definition the OVP and Vice President. Doesn't matter if OVP legal counsel agrees or disagrees with the definition in the supboena: The OVP Counsel does not appear to have responded as required to the subpoena. OVP legal counsel appears to be making dilatory efforts, and not responding with credible positions. Appears to be far less than what might reasonably expect fo competent counsel.

None of this matters. Bush will pardon any of his staff that get into trouble. He himself is immune from impeachment on Nancy Pelosi's say so.

No laws or legal documents bind this administration.

Distracting Attention From OVP Defiance Of Security Obligations

32 CFR 2800 defines the specific legal requirements on OVP to respond to revivews of classified information. You appear to be making a circular argument in support of lawlessness and anarchy: Weaseldog @ 82:
None of this matters. Bush will pardon any of his staff that get into trouble. He himself is immune from impeachment on Nancy Pelosi's say so. No laws or legal documents bind this administration.

Bush cannot pardon himself if he is in prison. Whetter he will or will not pardon others is meaningless. If the US chooses to ignore the laws of war, and not act as a civilized nation, then what hope does America have; and why would anyone want to continue supporting this President, GOP?

Whether the President is "immune" from Congressional action is meaningless: The States have teh power to act. You fail to account for action outside Congress and the US government. Whether the President follows the law is a different issue than whether he is bound by law. Where the US government refuses to enforce the law, then those complicit members of Congress can be prosecuted. The Constitution -- and all treaties againt illegal warfare and unlawful conduct -- are the Supreme Law.

I would ask that you kind reconsider your assertions. If you believe the law does not apply, then kindly step aside and let those who shall defend the Constitution do their job. Your argument appears to be more of the clap-trap we've heard from the DNC-GOP enabling toadies in Congress and the Executive Branch. Time to stop arguing for pathetic inaction; and require the President to defend himself in court. He is not above the law; nor is the Vice President. Regardless the OVP legal "position" on their position relative to the EOP, WH, or the Executive branch, this is a requirement.

Your argument fails on all levels.

OVPRealityCheck @ 84:

Your argument fails on all levels.

Not so much an argument as what I believe could come to pass.

I believe that Congress will protect this administration, because they have hopes that their favorite candidate will wear the mantle of these powers when they assume office.

Intellectually, I know that Bush has committed many crimes that warrant impeachment, prison time and possibly execution. Intellectually, I know that it is impossible for us to be having this conversation, because in a nation where the rule of law matters Bush would've been in prison in 2004, rather than be elected again.

But somehow, against all reason, here we are.

the should have taken away his funding. damn blue dogs..they are complicit.

OK...dickey boy, then I'm NO LONGER A TAXPAYER,..on what grounds you say?...because I just seceded from your dictatorship. Please return my part of the money you mis-used to give to your corperate buddies.

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