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Bill Moyers on the fallen: Can you find a “phony” in the bunch?

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Though he has far more class than to say so explicitly, I suspect that Bill Moyers was upset by Rush Limbaugh’s statement that any troop member advocating withdrawal was a “phony soldier”. He looks at the seven soldiers who penned the op-ed in the NY Times questioning why remain in Iraq and the tragic price three have paid.

Funny, none of them look remotely phony to me, Rush…




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latinck Says:

frist!!!!!

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Strawberry Says:

Hell, don’t feel so bad. I just came from a liberal website and read some comments from some so called granola munching hippies that felt we had to stay in Iraq to prevent genocide….we broke it we own it. I had to leave before I went all Strawberry on ‘em.

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Thinker Says:

Moyer always speaks of our better selves. He addresses us all as if we are intelligent and compassionate human beings. Rush calls out the basest of human emotions - resentment. He thrives on calling out the worst of our humanity. Moyers had been demonized and riduculed by those who follow Rush.
However, I suspect they are far fewer than Rush would have us believe.
What a terrible little man he is. I often think that the mark of our humanity is our ability to feel empathy and express repentance.
Rush simply does not have the ability to feel empathy, nor the ability to every express repentance. George Bush does not seem to have either ability either. What does that say about us - the people.?

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tjb Says:

Not to mention PAT TILLMAN.Did I just mention PAT TILLMAN, well may George be haunted by his memory till he goes completly insane and may George never find peace!

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GonzoD Says:

Bob Ceska wrote a very good story about the difference between WWII and Bush’s War. While he doesn’t mention Rush by name, he does point out the other members of Rush’s ilk:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....66370.html

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justabill Says:

Disgusting
by kos

I don’t know the last time I saw so many phony soldiers.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....114512/141

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KansasCityFaGt Says:

“Warshington”??

I like Moyers but this bugs the shit out of me.

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biff Says:

Limbaugh clearly was referring to people he says call up impersonating soldiers to give their anti-war comments some credibility. I.E. they are phony as in not real soldiers. phony, fake, false… It’s so clear when you hear the tape or read the transcript that he didn’t call real soldiers phony if they were against the war. I can’t believe you people are trying to make this stick. MSM no its a reach, which is why they won’t touch it, not because they have love for Limbaugh. I’m sick of these lame disingenious rants from the left on this issue. get over this. Like he’s gonna give an inch. Please, the fatman with the 4-F card is loving the extra attention and would just as soon become Teddy Kennedy’s caddy at Pebble Beach than do what you wall want, which i guess must be an apology. Move on already.

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Roket Says:

I would like to hear more about the rollover accident that killed five servicemen.

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GonzoD Says:

biff @ 8:

Limbaugh clearly was referring to people he says call up impersonating soldiers to give their anti-war comments some credibility. I.E. they are phony as in not real soldiers. phony, fake, false… It’s so clear when you hear the tape or read the transcript that he didn’t call real soldiers phony if they were against the war. I can’t believe you people are trying to make this stick. MSM no its a reach, which is why they won’t touch it, not because they have love for Limbaugh. I’m sick of these lame disingenious rants from the left on this issue. get over this. Like he’s gonna give an inch. Please, the fatman with the 4-F card is loving the extra attention and would just as soon become Teddy Kennedy’s caddy at Pebble Beach than do what you wall want, which i guess must be an apology. Move on already.

You obviously heard a different audio than the rest of us did. BTW, Word Press has Spell Check, try it sometime!

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justabill Says:

biff @ 8:

Limbaugh clearly was referring to people he says call up impersonating soldiers to give their anti-war comments some credibility. I.E. they are phony as in not real soldiers. phony, fake, false… It’s so clear when you hear the tape or read the transcript that he didn’t call real soldiers phony if they were against the war. I can’t believe you people are trying to make this stick. MSM no its a reach, which is why they won’t touch it, not because they have love for Limbaugh. I’m sick of these lame disingenious rants from the left on this issue. get over this. Like he’s gonna give an inch. Please, the fatman with the 4-F card is loving the extra attention and would just as soon become Teddy Kennedy’s caddy at Pebble Beach than do what you wall want, which i guess must be an apology. Move on already.

LMAO!!! You must listen to his BS and believe it! You really ought to check out the transcript, or listen to it.

Limbaugh selectively edited “phony soldiers” clip, claimed it was “the entire transcript”
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709280009?f=h_top

lol

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joshdavis Says:

biff @ 8:

Limbaugh clearly was referring to people he says call up impersonating soldiers to give their anti-war comments some credibility. I.E. they are phony as in not real soldiers. phony, fake, false… It’s so clear when you hear the tape or read the transcript that he didn’t call real soldiers phony if they were against the war. I can’t believe you people are trying to make this stick. MSM no its a reach, which is why they won’t touch it, not because they have love for Limbaugh. I’m sick of these lame disingenious rants from the left on this issue. get over this. Like he’s gonna give an inch. Please, the fatman with the 4-F card is loving the extra attention and would just as soon become Teddy Kennedy’s caddy at Pebble Beach than do what you wall want, which i guess must be an apology. Move on already.

No. It’s quite clear if you listen to the radio conversation that Rush is referring not to people who “call up” but to people on television, like Jon Soltz and Paul Hackett, former soldiers from Iraq who have spoken out as pundits and politicians against the war. You didn’t listen to the broadcast at all if you think Rush was referring to a caller.

“They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and spout to the media,” the caller said.

“The phony soldiers,” Limbaugh said.

The caller indicates himself in his sixth word that he is referring to actual “soldiers.” Limbaugh calls them “phony.”

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justabill Says:

Rush’s Limpbough is so full of shit.

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Cunning-Linguist Says:

biff @ 8:

Limbaugh clearly was referring to people he says call up impersonating soldiers to give their anti-war comments some credibility. I.E. they are phony as in not real soldiers. phony, fake, false… It’s so clear when you hear the tape or read the transcript that he didn’t call real soldiers phony if they were against the war. I can’t believe you people are trying to make this stick. MSM no its a reach, which is why they won’t touch it, not because they have love for Limbaugh. I’m sick of these lame disingenious rants from the left on this issue. get over this. Like he’s gonna give an inch. Please, the fatman with the 4-F card is loving the extra attention and would just as soon become Teddy Kennedy’s caddy at Pebble Beach than do what you wall want, which i guess must be an apology. Move on already.

Thats crap, you ever try to call in to Limbaughs show? If you do happen to wade through the many filter people you can bet that the first word you udder that is not pro NeoCon you will be cut off and slandered.

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rightard syndrome Says:

phoney soldiers stand under “Mission Accomplished” banners when the real war hasn’t even begun yet

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biff Says:

you are all soooo wrong. totally missing the boat on this. Just hearing what you want to hear. And no, I’m not a Limbaugh fan, he’s a total douche chickenhawk. I’m just not walking lockstep on this one. sorry. He wasn’t referring to uniformed personal, which is why this will go nowhere despite your best intentions. and I have heard the full transcripts. read them too.

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Vitam Vas Says:

(sniff sniff)……I believe that I smell something……..a big fat chickenhawk piece of shit getting roasted all the way across TWO continents.

Between this, and Bill Moyers FINALLY shining the light of day into the war profiteering that has been robbing the treasury blind these last 6 years, I’m actually excited enough to engage in an act heartily encouraged by Jocelyn Elders.

V V

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screech Says:

…none of them look remotely phony to me, Rush…

Moyers nails it perfectly as usual. I was just hopeing that he had used the above line somewhere toward the end of the segment.

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justabill Says:

Rush’s Limpbough BS’ed all of his listeners after this scandal broke, and played a doctored recording on air of the conversation to make it seem like he was saying something different than what he really did, and Media Matters PWNED (yes I said pwned) his nasty pilonidal cyst covered ass!!

Limbaugh selectively edited “phony soldiers” clip, claimed it was “the entire transcript”
Summary: In response to Media Matters’ documentation of his recent description of service members who advocate U.S. withdrawal from Iraq as “phony soldiers,” Rush Limbaugh claimed that he had not been talking “about the anti-war movement generally,” but rather “about one soldier … Jesse MacBeth.” Limbaugh then purported to air the “entire” segment in question. In fact, the clip he aired omitted a full 1 minute and 35 seconds of discussion that occurred between Limbaugh’s original “phony soldiers” comment and his subsequent reference to MacBeth.

So busted.
LMAO!!!!

20
Brittany Hume Says:

phoney soldiers = candyass reichwing DNS chickenhawk loudmouth warmongers

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joshdavis Says:

biff @ 16:

you are all soooo wrong. totally missing the boat on this. Just hearing what you want to hear. And no, I’m not a Limbaugh fan, he’s a total douche chickenhawk. I’m just not walking lockstep on this one. sorry. He wasn’t referring to uniformed personal, which is why this will go nowhere despite your best intentions. and I have heard the full transcripts. read them too.

If we’re wrong then show us where. Only trolls make arguments on blogs without backing them up. Where does he talk about callers?

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SadButTrue Says:

biff @ 8: SAID:

Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah

And did you notice how many people immediately called you on your bullshit? GonzoD recommends you try SpellCheck. I would add RealityCheck to that.

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Thing Fish Says:

History lesson for Rush: Have you no sense of decency sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?

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GonzoD Says:

Off topic - Site Monitor: Why do I have to hit Refresh Comments every time I come in here?

[I don’t know-Sitemonitor]

25
jr Says:

Daddy cultists Rush and David Limbaugh don’t care how many people die. They are still mentally playing cowboys and indians in the front yard of their childhood home

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justabill Says:

GonzoD @ 24:

Off topic - Site Monitor: Why do I have to hit Refresh Comments every time I come in here?

Maybe because it’s a thread not IM?

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Thing Fish Says:

biff @ 16:

you are all soooo wrong. totally missing the boat on this. Just hearing what you want to hear. And no, I’m not a Limbaugh fan, he’s a total douche chickenhawk. I’m just not walking lockstep on this one. sorry. He wasn’t referring to uniformed personal, which is why this will go nowhere despite your best intentions. and I have heard the full transcripts. read them too.

Limbaugh selectively edited “phony soldiers” clip, claimed it was “the entire transcript” (MediaMatters)

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GonzoD Says:

justabill @ 26:

GonzoD @ 24:

Off topic - Site Monitor: Why do I have to hit Refresh Comments every time I come in here?

Maybe because it’s a thread not IM?

That’s not it. When you refresh on the main page, it should update any comments.

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John Barringer Says:

“‘Warshington’??

“I like Moyers but this bugs the shit out of me.”

It’s just his accent. He wasn’t being “cute”. I grew up in a part of the country where folks said “Warshington” for our nation’s capitol and “warsh” for what you do with your clothes. And after you warsh them you wrench them out. >

jb

30
Robert Says:

Someone please ask Rush L. Whats more Honorable fighting and dieing in a war you don’t support, or fight and dieing in a war you do support.

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justabill Says:

GonzoD @ 28:

That’s not it. When you refresh on the main page, it should update any comments.

Oh, you mean the displayed number of comments for each post. The comments themselves do refresh for every post when you refresh the main page, but that number sticks sometimes. You might try a cookie dump. Sometimes that works.

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sam Says:

Iran for 2000 years has never attacked another country. US and Israel attacked plenty in the last few decades alone.
Repeat. For 2000 years Iran has never attacked another country. Pass it on.

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GonzoD Says:

justabill @ 31:

GonzoD @ 28:

That’s not it. When you refresh on the main page, it should update any comments.

Oh, you mean the displayed number of comments for each post. The comments themselves do refresh for every post when you refresh the main page, but that number sticks sometimes. You might try a cookie dump. Sometimes that works.

No it’s not the # that sticks. Sometimes I refresh the main page and it updates the #, but when I click comments, it will show less than the # on the post. As far as cookie dump, I clean out the files and cookies at least twice a day.

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GonzoD Says:

Now the bugger won’t let me comment.

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GonzoD Says:

Oh yeah, let that one go thru!

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uncle joe mccarthy Says:

mora shouldnt have even been back in country

hearing loss and they sent him back after 2 weeks?

4 tours of duty for the first seargent????? 4 fucking tours??

forget gitmo, our government is torturing our own men and women in uniform

el druggo can say what he wants, no one signs up for this…they didnt even do this to combat troops in korea or nam

its criminal, and bush and all his generals need to face the man and be sent to prison for crimes against humanity

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biff Says:

wow step off the reservation and speak some hard truth and the brave, anonymous bloggers get personal. Ouch, that hurts. Like I said, I’m right, you are wrong. Limbaugh didn’t refer to uniformed soldiers. I heard the media matters full transcripts.

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uncle joe mccarthy Says:

biff @ 8:

Limbaugh clearly was referring to people he says call up impersonating soldiers to give their anti-war comments some credibility. I.E. they are phony as in not real soldiers. phony, fake, false… It’s so clear when you hear the tape or read the transcript that he didn’t call real soldiers phony if they were against the war. I can’t believe you people are trying to make this stick. MSM no its a reach, which is why they won’t touch it, not because they have love for Limbaugh. I’m sick of these lame disingenious rants from the left on this issue. get over this. Like he’s gonna give an inch. Please, the fatman with the 4-F card is loving the extra attention and would just as soon become Teddy Kennedy’s caddy at Pebble Beach than do what you wall want, which i guess must be an apology. Move on already.

no sir….its enuf of this spin

in the program where he attempts to defend himself, rush brings up murtha and beauchamp

murtha is a decorated veteran, beauchamp is still serving in iraq

beauchamp’s stories have been vetted by the new republic, and the new republic stands by his stories

rush’s only beef with murtha is that he disagrees with his politics…yet he clearly calls him a phony

the only true phony soldier that el druggo can talk about is macbeth….that is one…one….not plural

the fat, drug addled bastard hates the troops….but you cant stand to hear that

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MargeAggedon Says:

Only hate mongering, war profiteering, reich wing repugs are REAL anythings… the rest of the planet are considered “fringe” elements.

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biff Says:

BUT HE DIDN’T CALL MURTHA A PHONY SOLDIER!!! I can’t believe I’m doing Limbaugh’s bidding. Just proof enough to myself that I am 100 percent right.

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uncle joe mccarthy Says:

biff @ 37:

wow step off the reservation and speak some hard truth and the brave, anonymous bloggers get personal. Ouch, that hurts. Like I said, I’m right, you are wrong. Limbaugh didn’t refer to uniformed soldiers. I heard the media matters full transcripts.

no sir, it is you and the rest of the dittoheads that are incapable of hearing what that drug addled fatman says:

he has repeatedly attacked vets and men in uniform who have spoken out against the war

here he goes after paul hackett and max cleland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFrCXUOfz8A

this is a pattern of his demeaning those vets and men in uniform who dont share his political views

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sam Says:

sam @ 32:

Iran for 2000 years has never attacked another country. US and Israel attacked plenty in the last few decades alone.
Repeat. For 2000 years Iran has never attacked another country. Pass it on.

And since Mahmud A. can’t really say that publicly, because it’s kinda “embarrassing” to be THAT peaceful when you live in the era with Bush being the leader of a very powerful nation run amok, his comment about Iran being “a peaceful, loving nation” should pretty much suffice and are, in my humble opinion, diplomatic enough. At least WE, the people, the Americans could kindly pass this pretty relevant revelation to our leaders in Congress. The alternative? We’ve been through that already. We either let the lies fly towards us again or we kill the disease once and for all!!!

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biff Says:

I’M….NOT A FREAKING DITTO HEAD!!!! Jesus, give me a break here!! I’m just pointing out some inconvenient facts. You’re wrong. Plain and simple. Just another distraction.

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uncle joe mccarthy Says:

biff @ 40:

BUT HE DIDN’T CALL MURTHA A PHONY SOLDIER!!! I can’t believe I’m doing Limbaugh’s bidding. Just proof enough to myself that I am 100 percent right.

he didnt??

then why did he include murtha and beauchamp in the discussion

please, educate me

guess he didnt demean paul hacketts time in iraq or uniform either

didnt use the words “staff puke” didnt say that the only reason hackett went to iraq was to pad his political resume’

well…shmega dildos to you too

I don’t know about the phony soldiers, but i know there are a lot of “phony” legs and arms out there now that had not yet been manufactured before we invaded Iraq.

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uncle joe mccarthy Says:

biff @ 43:

I’M….NOT A FREAKING DITTO HEAD!!!! Jesus, give me a break here!! I’m just pointing out some inconvenient facts. You’re wrong. Plain and simple. Just another distraction.

ok….

rush uses the plural of soldiers to describe on soldier

to expand what he was talking about, he brings up the case of beauchamp (another real soldier, doing a real job in iraq) and murtha….and please dont tell me you didnt hear it…its there

so other than macbeth…who are the other phony soldiers rush is tal