Al Gore Wins Nobel Peace Prize
By Nicole Belle Thursday Oct 11, 2007 6:27am 
BBC:
Climate change campaigner Al Gore and the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change have been jointly awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
Congratulations to Al Gore! His office has issued this statement (from an email):
I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize. This award is even more meaningful because I have the honor of sharing it with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change--the world's pre-eminent scientific body devoted to improving our understanding of the climate crisis--a group whose members have worked tirelessly and selflessly for many years. We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of humanity. It is also our greatest opportunity to lift global consciousness to a higher level.
My wife, Tipper, and I will donate 100 percent of the proceeds of the award to the Alliance for Climate Protection, a bipartisan non-profit organization that is devoted to changing public opinion in the U.S. and around the world about the urgency of solving the climate crisis.
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But I thought there was no such thing as "Global Warming." Or are you trying to to tell me the Cons were lying about that, too?
Oh man, the wingnuts will never get over this one...
Congratz to Al and the IPCC. Please God, make him run!
I think the Earth is smiling today...
congratulations, Al
... cool beans. Okay, NOW will you run for President? No? *sorrow*
Congratulations to Mr. Gore. I hope he keeps it up.
Fabulous! Congratulations Al. And a special thanks to Exxon Mobile, BP, Chevron, etc., without whom climate change, increasingly powerful hurricanes, and dangerously diminished ice caps would not have been possible.
Has anyone done an environmental impact study on the amount of global warming caused by wingnut heads exploding?
In the word of that great freshman philosopher, Kent "Flounder" Dorfman, "Oh boy! This is going to be great!"
Great news!
And the best part, how many neo-cons will simply implode upon hearing the news?
Better yet, maybe we could harness the energy of their fist shaking temper tantrums and further aid the planet!
I'm betting that by the end of the day, Fox News will have found something sinister about Gore's prize, the circumstances of his winning it, or they will launch an all-out assault on the creditability of the prize, likening it to something somehow tarnished or filthy.
And at the same time, they will be creating some self-congratulatory Freedom Award they can give to Ann Coulter for having the courage to talk like a guttersnipe skank on national TV.
Of course, by then the number of people taking them seriously will have decreased by another couple of percentage points. I'm just sayin'.
He could do so much more for the world as president of the USA.
Al Gore it's a great man. Congratz to him and to the UN's Panel on Climate Change.
Keep up with the good work.
Junior bush once won a plastic ring in a cracker jack box....
"Thank God that George W. Bush is our President."
Go buddy, keep the pressure on to make the needed changes
He's still the man! Congratulations Vice President Gore.
This is a win the Supreme Court can't take away from him. :)
Heartfelt congratulations to Al Gore, a global hero.
For an American to win the Nobel Peace Prize is a great honor for our country. Let the wingnut swift-boating of Al Gore begin
A Grammy, an Oscar, an Emmy, and now a Nobel Prize. What award is left for President Gore to win?
Oh, I forgot about this:
Sorry for the triple posting, but the didn't Work.
Putin says missile plan risks relations
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071012/ap_on_re_eu/us_russia;_ylt=AsaT0HDg6...
The right-wingers will be focusing on the U.K. court ruling that calls "An Inconvenient Truth" alarmist and extremist, possessing nine factual errors. And then they'll throw in the old 'invented the internet' chestnut for good measure.
Shadowgm @ 19:
Yeah, I'm loving that one. Next time I hear "invented the internet" about Al Gore, I'm going to say: "Yeah, and he won the NOBEL PRIZE for it, too!" That oughtta shut them up.
Excellent! Awesome job, man.
Our dude won THE PRIZE, baby!
NOTHING on the other side even compares...
Run Al, Run!
My deepest congratulations to Mr. Gore on his remarkable achievement. Please, Mr. Gore, run again!
Makes you wonder what kind of a world we would be living in today had Gore been allowed to assume his rightful title of President of the United States. As far as I personally am concerned, we have had no President of the United States since January of 2001, just a pretender, a crook and a liar (H/T to John Amato, you sure picked a great name for your site!).
This country has twice had a chance to elect Vietnam veterans, (as I am), to the office of President and has failed to do so. These are men that have seen war and know how bad it really is. Both knew they couldn't solve problems by bombing the shit out of an enemy and that talking with people is always better. Both Gore and Kerry had the knowledge to have at least gotten a handle on the major problems facing us in this world and would have worked towards ending or alleviating them, instead of creating more like the current jackass in the White House.
Congratulations to Al Gore. Now Scalia can rot in hell for appointing Bush as president. The world would be a better place if Al Gore served in the White House.
"For an American to win the Nobel Peace Prize is a great honor for our country."
Sadly, he's probably the only American deserving besides those who have already won like Jimmy Carter.
What gets me about this news today is just how few years ago everyone was still denying everything Gore was preaching a decade or more before.
Celebrate with Gore everyone. Reduce your energy consumption. Encourage others to do so. Action, not words.
. . . and they'll say that the Nobel Committee is inappropriately attempting to interject themselves into the American political process. They will equate the million dollar prize to a campaign contribution by foreign interests.
Very cool. The donation is a great move as well.
I can't wait to see how Coulter and Hannity go after the Nobel Panel for this.
What has this to do with Peace? In a world torn by war you would think that the Nobel Peace Prize would go towards someone trying to make peace. Not that Al's message isn't important--though fear mongering from the left is no better than fear mongering from the right, it is. No, i'm not starting an apologist rant...i would say that climate is a very complex and chaotic matter, and i'm not sure that we know as much as we think we know. None-the-less, the obvious fact remains: whatever crap we spew into the environment we will eat, drink, and breathe. And we need to remember, no matter how egocentric we are, that we do not have the power to destroy the Earth...or even life. We have the power to fuck things up badly enough to kill us and most of the life like us, but that's it.
It frightens me that the left has picked up on this issue in the WAY that it has...it feels as much like the politics of fear as the terrorism bogeyman. Furthermore, it looks as though it too is a method for more legislative control of people. And climate change will be the least of our worries if we continue to rape, murder, and pillage our way around the world with a smug attitude of superiority, while our freedoms at home erode into a developing police state and our economy approaches that of the third world.
For eight years, Mr. Gore was all for globalization...a euphemism for quick profits based on the exploitation of third world labor and the ability of US corporations to act in areas without environmental controls. Before that he was a staunch supporter of censorship. Forgive me if i question his motives.
And before you jump on me for being a flat earth type, i am most certainly not. Nor am i a Republican....
Yeah Al!!! Congratulations...now get back to work...we have a country to save! Gore/Kucinich!
slippytoad @ 20:
Yeah, that will shut them up because they will believe you.
but... but... but... Rush was *nominated* for a Nobel, so that's like exactly almost the same thing, right? /snark
jackpine savage @ 28:
The stability of the environment in regards to future generations is an important factor in world peace. Wars are waged over resources, such as oil - and changing that equation by addressing alternative energy technologies could very well bring peace as a benefit. Global cooperation on global issues (globalism isn't just about profit) also promotes peace.
jackpine savage at 28:
For an understanding behind the decision, you should go read the discussion as to how the decision was made. It is in the news reports of Gore's win as well as on the Nobel site.
meanwhile, over @ freecreepublic:
jackpine savage @ 28:
Will the concern trolling never end? There is NO CONFUSION about this topic anymore. There is a well-documented body of evidence that not only is climate change occurring, not only is it man-made, but it's happening FASTER than we thought it would. The Arctic ice cap has been vanishing at a staggering rate. Scientists originally predicted we had decades before it reached the state it's at right now. Talking about global warming IS NOT FEAR MONGERING. If anything, the generally-agreed-on estimates have been far too conservative.
Is it fear mongering to tell people a problem exists that's REAL? I don't follow you.
And developing sustainable, renewable energy is probably the smartest thing we could do to rectify many of our planet's social problems as well. I'm not seeing the downside here. Maybe you can explain in some way that isn't utter bullshit.
Forgive me if I question your slander.
Nor are you at all credible or believable. Your CONCERN is duly noted. Now go pick up your paycheck from Fox News.
Joel @ 358:
Hey Joel, I think Larry Craig is tapping your foot. Why don't you step into the next stall and dishonor yourself a bit?
BTW, trying to stop WWIII isn't hating your nation, it's saving the world, asshole.
"The per curiam opinion was not signed, but it is generally thought to be primarily the work of Justice Kennedy" (1410).
Source: Jack M. Balkin, Bush v. Gore and the Boundary
Between Law and Politics. The Yale Law Journal 110, 1407.
"Because the Supreme Court made George W. Bush president, the Democrats can point to the Supreme Court as the symbol of what is wrong with the Bush presidency" (1458).
[Dude. We don't care for your abuse. Grab a clue and leave-Sitemonitor]
thepoetryman @ 138:
Don't give up your day job.
Which is probably working at Walmart.
RE-ELECT GORE IN 2008!
Al Gore will gladly trade 100 Nobel Prizes for one key to the White House. Sorry Al, you will NEVER be President.
Doggiebobo @ 331:
How about he uses it to get her a brain transplant?
mrogi @ 365
you and your gang stole the election, otherwise he would have been our president
you will see that you can not fool us again in 08
your president of war would NEVER get any humanitarian prize let alone a noble prize because he is ignoble and ignorant.
Joel @ 362:
Hey, you just could not stay away could you asshole. Who, and please supply me w/name(s)
of those forecasting "millions dead" in Iraq? The most recent (reliable) data I saw as to
civilian casualites in Iraq is between 600K and 650K, being supplied by the Gov. of Iraq;
not some Propoganda Pentagon figures. Count would most likely be substantially greater
has not 4 MILLION of the natives of that country been displaced...moving to neighboring
countries to avoid the misery and destruction. And as to a "quagmire" in Iraq...how would
you describe the current situation? 168K U.S. troops still remain...the country has NO
cohensive government, the citizens of Bagdah have water/elec. approx. 4 to 6 hours daily,
they are living within restricted zones; seperating Shities from Sunnias; just to mention
a few examples of how the country is unstable and in fact is in a quagmire. And further,
as to the testimony given by General P....anyone(and of course that must include you)
who feels that his observations/comments were not sanatized by the W/H is living in
another world...in fact in a cave w/blinders on. You really need to, as someone earlier
today recommended, go to one of those Red/Repig website and join the group of clowns
over there who are uninformed, uneducated and lack the ability to accept reality. Or
perhaps more appropriately, you should continue to listen to Rush Limpbag and watch
Faux Noise inasmuch as it is evident that those are your primary sources of "misinformation."
Joel @ 362:
Isn't that more of a Republican thing?
DickCheneyShotMeInTheFace @ 366:
Gotta have a brain first...and we know she lacks one.
sitemonitor, i thought you banned this idiot Joel who is so upset about recognition of a noble man who lost to an ignoble man in 2000 due to election fraud, jowl die from your anger or just go to Iraq to fight for your president.
bush will be remembered as a war criminal in history and Al Gore as a decent human being who worked for noble causes.
Sitemonitor: Thanks....hope this time Joel is able to comprehend that his inaccurate,
unsupported (abusive and brainless) comments are not welcomed here at C&L.
[Deleted. Discredited right wing falsehoods and immature name calling-Sitemonitor]
Gonzo Beans @ 373:
Another troll who is totally uninformed and apparently is watching Faux for his/her info.
Here is a huge problem. If you criticize Gore, it must be that you are a wingnut. What a cozy place to be. It's hard to believe, but criminals have won the nobel peace prize too! Not that there are not any legitimate people who have won, it's just that he isn't one of them. On the one hand, this media fraud that Gore is somehow scientific and on the other,if you point this out it makes it look like you are in the hannity/limpbaugh/coulter/bush/etc camp which is even more abominable. Because anything but bush et. al. looks much better, but think again. There are multiple levels of cognitive/psychological/information warfare going on here. And, let's never forget that warfare is primarily for a psychological/social effect.
People, the whole solar system is warming up. We need safe, clean energy not because of global warming but because it's simply bad for us and bad for our children. It's polluting the air that sustains us.
Gonzo Beans @ 373:
I'm with you Beans. Man Made Global Warming is the biggest scam since the 9/11 inside job. Mars and Venus are heating up and far as I know there are no yuppies there driving SUV's.
Global Warming is a natura, provable,l re-occuring cycle. Man Made pollution is not. This issue is going to be used to increase taxes and control on our society. Soon down the road is the Global Warming police inspecting your trash, like in England, and fining you for not recycling correctly.
Gore is a Globalist and has done nothing to bring "Peace" to the world. If he wasn't part of the system he would have protested the election results.
All you who need something good to happen in your life are seeing this as some sort of victory. You quickly call anyone who disagrees with you a troll or republican, etc...you are wrong. We are thinkers, not reactors.
[Actually, we are getting rid of comments which call the regular visitors to this site names (which imply a group-think situation), as part of their 'strategery' for getting their point across. It's not the point being objected to, it's the lack of civility being employed during the delivery of said opinion-Sitemonitor]
Doggiebobo @ 374:
So Gonzo can be called a troll and he can't criticize Gore or think that people are following the pack like lemmings?
I didn't realize you censor your site so closely. And I didn't know that the only other thing that Gonzo could be talking about are right wing talking points. Thanks for thinking that one through for us, site monitor. You sure represent free ssssspeech and democracy.
Even though I'm starting to have my suspicions about Chomsky as a gate keeper, I do like a quote of his: "if you don't support freedom of speech for those whose views you despise, you don't believe in it" I guess this is a right wing talking point. By the way, I do not favor and never have favored the right. In the past 10 years, I've also just given up on this fake left/right paradigm.
EJ @ 376:
Please, sitemoniter, don't turn me into a right winger for this, but please tell me why "troll" is within the realm of civility? Why are his comments such a threat?
We need a third point of contention in the Global Warming debate.
The pseudo-debate on global warming leaves out the following argument:
“The anomalous weather worldwide is not accidental.” Lt. Col. Tom Bearden (Ret.)
Weather Control and Weather Warfare
Link: http://twm.co.nz/Beard_wmod.htm…
This article - http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/031207EB.shtml - expands on conclusive scientific evidence of weather changes due to climate change. However, all of educated humanity must begin to demand that large steps be immediately taken by all governments to recognize that these issues go far beyond factory and automobile emissions. There must be worldwide acknowledgement of the effects on our global climate by scalar interferometry imparted by new technology that has been imposed upon our entire planet by (rogue elements) within several military/industrialized nations, including ours; as outlined by Ret. Lt. Col. Thomas Bearden…
______________________________
Weather Modification Bill Introduced
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109th CONGRESS
1st Session
S. 517
To establish the Weather Modification Operations and Research Board, and for other purposes.
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
March 3, 2005
Mrs. HUTCHISON introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-517
___________________________________________
Global Weather War Evidence Examined
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Former Defense Secretary William Cohen 1997
Regarding the current existence of this “god-like” technology … a technology which can actually, as Cohen testified, “alter the climate … set off earthquakes [and] volcanoes remotely … through the use of electromagnetic waves …”
Saturday, September 24, 2005
“Hyperdimensional Katrina”: Scientific Evidence — Rita Update! — 1:00 PM- 9/24/05
http://www.enterprisemission.com/weblog/weblog.htm
Russian/Yakuza Mafia Weather Engineering Power
http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/030202a.htm
___________________________________________
Global Sunscreen Program
Check out the Global Sunscreen Program
http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/050803.htm
Disclosure source Lt. Col. Thomas Bearden ret.
Cloud Anomalies
Note that the edges of the weather control patterns in the clouds are now deliberately “roughed up” to make them appear more “normal”. Note also that most of these patterns were relatively stable in wind-blown skies, and were not fleeting aberrations. When the power was cut, they would dissipate almost immediately. Also, there may well be several different man-made phenomena going on with the creation of these “clouds” and “chemtrails”, possibly involving different covert groups, different nations, and different programs and agendas, so one single simple interpretation is probably not appropriate. Candidates for the foregoing would probably also include the alleged Global Sunscreen Program - http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/050803.htm and HAARP.
Al Gore, Global,,,,,, Tub of shit.
Dennis Kucinich had an original bill he tried to get passed in 2001 e.g. where Rep. Kucinich's HR 2977 names Chemtrails as an "'Exotic Weapon".
Chemtrails, strange Orbs, contrails with toxic barium and aluminum salts in sub micron particulate aerosols spraying us like cockroaches daily. Greatly effecting the weather!
http://youtube.com/profile?user=vrilian
Mr Pelicano @ 327:
The word "odious" is yours and, frankly, I'm rather surprised that hold the site in "low-esteem" is grounds for censoring what was otherwise a fairly innocuous observation. Namely, that many posters to the site display a surprising ability to reconcile the continual failures of the Democratic Party to deliver the goods, from a progressive perspective, with their being deserving of continued support by the same.
So, "wrong assumption about the site" ought to strike every right-thinking person as a rather juvenile reason for censoring somebody's remarks, which contained not one word of profanity, personal attack, or off-topic judgment.
Regards.
Look up Chemtrails on Youtube - videos from all over the world...
Brawlin_Dem @ 1:
An Inconvenient Truth sparked discussion about the environment in venues where such topics were previously a non-issue. True or Fales. I have become aware of becoming Carbon Neutral. http://carbonneutral.2truth.com
EJ @ 376:
Sitemonitor...
I absolutely agree that there is way too much Internet hostility used to hurt not help a discussion. Yet quite often you allow such fowl mouth talk if it seems to be on mutually agreed upon bad guys like a Bill O'Reilly, etc. ??
Over the year I have been deleted here for 'conspiracy theory' comments on Chemtrails, Possible Directed Energy Weapons on WTC 1&2, and other things. Is it perhaps there are a number of monitors with different degrees of judgment?
For many reasons I don't feel like 'family' here, but I do come here to for the news and not owning a TV I get to see things I would have missed. While some here are really brilliant and offer good links to information, the comments often seem to be predictable in many ways, indicating a "group think" in progress, which is understandable. People want to hang with like-minded folks for strength of numbers, etc. The danger as we know is speaking to the converted and not challenging each other's information base.
That's my nickel.
[We can't get everything. I personally would rather err on leaving too much up. Of course, if your commentary has been targeted for deletion, I can see where your point of view would be different. And some of the posters may seem in a group think mode, but as someone who reads many more comments than most people, I would say that most of our posters are independent thinkers. As for our judgment, we try to operate within the parameters of the commenting policy, because this is John Amato's site-Sitemonitor]
The right-wingers are sure to DEMONIZE Al Gore in the coming days & weeks. That is what they do best.
you lose the primary to george, you become insane.
you lose the election to george('s rig) you become a nobel laureate and a noble man.
" I thanked God that George Bush was our President"
Ya' Rudy me too.
I would have hated to miss out on the Bush years.
A war with no end in sight. Terrorists in every
corner. The full frontal assault on civil liberties.
Unprotected boarders, and ports. Tax cuts for the rich,and deficits for everybody else as far as the eye can see.
Quality health care for every American. No "lock box"
on social security. I wouldn't have missed this all for
anything.
Thank God that Al Gore was not appointed president,
he could have really messed things up big time.
I've been out of town for the past two weeks and haven't kept up with the news. Is someone kidding that Limbaugh was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize?
Nobel Peace Prize: NEW Global Warming Antiperspirant
AP – Al Gore has for a long time been full of hot air. He has a vivid imagination about the world around him. His strong commitment, reflected in political activity, lectures, films and books, has strengthened the struggle against climate change. Al’s basic mistrust of the seasons may stem from an episode of the Twilight Zone, in which the Earth gets too close to the Sun. Summers are hot & sticky, and Gore is probably the single individual who has done most to create greater worldwide understanding of the measures needed to create a more effective global deodorant.
If former college roommate, Tommy Lee Jones, could save the City of Los Angeles from an errant volcano, and the world entire from a giant cockroach (Men In Black), then certainly Big Al deserves a prize for his Global Antiperspirant Initiative to control perspiration, and prevent the meltdown of Earth. The same great ingredients and trusted formula that kept our leaders dry during the Cold War - now in roll-on or stick. As the planet heats up, you don’t have to! Clinton tested: guaranteed to leave no trace: http://theseedsof9-11.com
Congratulations, Al Gore!
Now...run for the presidency. I'm sure you can win it...again.
A Prairie Home Companion had a very amusing but short skit about this yesterday. Gotta love Garrison Keillor. :)
Congrats to Al Gore.
Even the hated 'old-europeans' are happy for Mr. Gore and if we could finally call him Mr. President they also think we can really fix the problems in the world.
If there is one thing Mr. Gore has shown in his work, it is that he has the balls to stand up there, acknowledge the problem as it is and demand actions to fix the problem.
No, 'they hate us for our clean air' crap but 'we have a problem, it is our fault and we all must fix it'.
Not to mention he also deserved the Peace Prize for the fact that he is not neck-deep in the corporate swamp and never supported the scum of the world like BushCo.
If the world could vote, they'd vote for Gore.
jackpine savage @ 28:
Just wanted to let you know that I know many Republicans that care about the environment and would agree with Al Gore regarding global warming. This is not a partisan issue.
If you get the chance, attend a renewable energy festival. It is an eye opening event.
http://www.paenergyfest.com
Coffins draped in flags @ 30:
The point is, they're not going to want to talk about Gore winning a Peace Prize. They're going to want to change the subject immediately.
It is important to note that George W. Bush is the anti-Nobel Peace Prize.
Gore wins it for promoting steps needed to prevent future wars, George W. Bush goes and starts pre-emptive fake wars for reasons including oil and because "Saddam is bad"
The black and white difference couldn't be any clearer.
This is an important talking point people.
Peace doesn't only mean the lack of war...peace means a quality of life that affords people basic rights, resources and hope for a future. If you believe climate change is an issue you can see how its implications would affect a peaceful life on earth, as well as an increased potential for war.
Shadowgm @ 19:
The wing nuts are already spreading the lie that Al jumped on a private jet, flew to Oslo and flew back when he found he couldn't accept in person.
Fox news is already harping that a judge in England said there are eight errors in the movie, Inconvenient Truth. It's so fun to watch them wiggle and squirm. This is a good day.
Actually, they were calling it a leftist propaganda organization yesterday. That and talking about Rush's nomination as if it were a real nomination. Apparently that lie caught on because Good Morning America mentioned Rush as another nomeniee *gag*!
Congratz Mr. Gore!
slippytoad @ 37:
That's true.
The point I was trying to make was this. Since they get their news from "fox", they won't know what you are talking about. They will believe that Al Gore received the Nobel Peace prize for inventing the internet(s) because they are so ill informed.
Al Gore MUST run.
Can anyone use the words "Rush" and "peace" in the same sentence?
Fantastic. Well deserved. Still a small consolation, for a great man man who should instead be finishing his 2nd term of office in the White House.
Shadowgm @ 32:
Exactly...only someone that can't comprehend the 'reasons' for wars (ie, domination of resources, land grabs, denial that this is just one world) couldn't make that connection.
Bottom line, the geopolitical energy endgame that the con-servatives & corporatists around the world are waging in order to further their 'free market'/neo-feudalistic world domination scheme...can be stopped, by the world embracing reality, that our lives have to change or human extinction will occur...not in our lifetime (those in the 25-35 yr old range), not in our children's lifetime, but certainly plausible in your great grandchildren's lifetime. Energy & Money don't have to destroy the only world we have....you can create the next 'industrial' revolution in this world, by taking the lead on clean energy & renewable resources...thereby stimulating the values of conservation, preservation, and
change upon the masses.
Congratulations to Al Gore & the IPCC on a well deserved award & to all the scientists that worked on the IPCC, thank you for dedicating your lives to studying our small planet that we have to start taking care of right now...
To all deniers, we'll have to redefine the definition of stupid, in your 'honor'....
right wing hater @ 343:
I never said peace and environment are not mutually exclusive. I agree with you that peace and the environment are not mutally exlusive. I see the connection. A food and water shortage could cause wars. However, humans and their impact on land can have disasterous consequences without global warming. They could also piss away their resources. You only have to take a look at the collapse of civilizations past to understand that.
I just do not agree with Al Gore and the IPCC that global warming is as pressing an issue as they are making it out to be. That is why I do not support the Nobel Peace Prize going to Al Gore. One of the reasons I also do not support Al Gore and the IPCC is the way they intend to go about trying to reverse global warming (which I doubt is even possible without drastic changes in human behavior). You cannot even start to address global warming by merely getting rid of coal and having fuel efficient cars. You need a systems wide restart from the way we build, to the way we produce, transmit, and consume energy and food stuffs, to the way we travel. You need to address population (more people use more resources emitting more carbon dioxide). You need to address our meat based diet and the tons of methane (a higher per capita contributer to global warming than CO2) emitted every year from livestock. I also am not convinced that all of the warming is a result of an increase in CO2. Listen, I am not a climate scientist. When I have time I read some other blogs on climate science (a good one is http://www.realclimate.org/) but something seems to be missing in the debate and the historical record that is being analyzed and used to forecast future trends is small compared to age of the planet. I have a little experience in computer modeling and I know that a climate model ha