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George Bush does not want you thinking about sick children.

 

And while Congress turns the children’s healthcare debate into a contest over which fully covered by health insurance legislator can express the most outrage, The White House puts its satin sleep mask on. Again.

Rockridge Institute: George Bush doesn’t want you to think about sick children. He wants you thinking about the fine print of health insurance policies. He wants us to debate types of coverage, premiums and the size of networks, and whether we can afford catastrophic, comprehensive, limited, mini-med or scheduled health insurance. But George Bush doesn’t want you thinking about all the sick children left behind in America. And insurance companies don’t want you thinking about all the children who they won’t help, just so they can maximize profits. …The Rockridge Institute has produced a video spot that dramatizes the way in which our current health care system is based on excluding part of the American family — concluding with the provocative question: “Which one of your children would you leave unprotected?”




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1
enor Says:

It is a travesty what we do to our sick and poor.

2
L.A. Confidential Says:

With so many Americans obsessed with celebrity gossip and glamor I don’t think Bush has that much to worry about.

3
sophiedog Says:

So to the man who so proudly pushes his unfunded No Child Left Behind boondoggle:
I guess it’s ok to leave the health of poor kids behind.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

sophiedog @ 3:

So to the man who so proudly pushes his unfunded No Child Left Behind boondoggle:
I guess it’s ok to leave the health of poor kids behind.

Law of the Jungle Bush Style

Y’know that thing about if you invoke “Godwin’s Law” on an internet discussion thread, the protocol is that it is instantly supposed to end the thread?

Well, I’ve come up with an exception to it….

Albert’s’s Exception To Godwin’s Law” states that:

“If the analogy is indeed apt, and relevant, then the thread is allowed to continue.”

We really have become the Nazis.

In Germany in the early 1930s if you were sick, elderly, infirm, addicted, alcoholic, disabled, free-spirited, free-thinking, a belligerent child, or just otherwise couldn’t pull your own weight, etc, etc you were socially branded as a:

Useless Eater.”

It wasn’t until *after* the Good Germans had worked their way through that food chain of people, first, and then run out of people to ostracize and kill, that they finally turned on their Jewish population and turned them into lampshades and soap.

I thought the deliberately confusing aspect of Medicaid Part-D was bad, and is going to kill a lot of old people in the process, but this is a much uglier step down that genocidal path.

We are so…

~nwa

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J.C. Says:

Can we knock off the “white male” stuff already? Why is that appropriate? The commonality of people who are insensitive to the plight of others isn’t that they’re white. Or male, necessarily. It’s that their insensitive. Like you.

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exit7a Says:

Dustin de Wynde @ 5:

Y’know that thing about if you invoke “Godwin’s Law” on an internet discussion thread, the protocol is that it is instantly supposed to end the thread?

Well, I’ve come up with an exception to it….

Albert’s’s Exception To Godwin’s Law” states that:

“If the analogy is indeed apt, and relevant, then the thread is allowed to continue.”

We really have become the Nazis.

In Germany in the early 1930s if you were sick, elderly, infirm, addicted, alcoholic, disabled, free-spirited, free-thinking, a belligerent child, or just otherwise couldn’t pull your own weight, etc, etc you were socially branded as a:

Useless Eater.”

It wasn’t until *after* the Good Germans had worked their way through that food chain of people, first, and then run out of people to ostracize and kill, that they finally turned on their Jewish population and turned them into lampshades and soap.

I thought the deliberately confusing aspect of Medicaid Part-D was bad, and is going to kill a lot of old people in the process, but this is a much uglier step down that genocidal path.

We are so…

~nwa

W’s grandfather was one of Hitler’s bankers

8
Concerned American Says:

I believe that GWB suffered from the lack of proper healthcare when he was a child. Hence, the reason he is mentally insufficient.

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anon Says:

They win … they always win.

The democrats - the real ones - cant beat these thugs.

These thugs:

Threaten
Blackmail
Lie
Steal
Rig
Destroy
Kill
Coopt
Subvert
Penetrate
Spy

The democrats - not the vichy dem faction of the republican party like Lieberman, Pelosi, Hoyer, Reid who are working members of the vichy dem faction - cant win.

What have they won? Patrick Fitzgerald was a non-fired pro-Bush USA who minimized the damage to Cheney - successfully.

What has been won?

FISA - no
Plame - no
Iraq - no
Defeating fascism - no
Legal elections - no
Rule of law - no
Constitution - no

… what have they won? Fool that you are. you are convinced that the ‘reckoning’ is coming in 2008. Did it come in 2006? My congresswoman - a vichy dem faction - won in the primary when republican support helped her defeat a true progressive democrat. Are all the retiring republicans a sign of the apocalypse or just a rovian realignment preparing for the elections of 2008?

What would have been different if Murtha rather than Hoyer were majority leader? Is Hoyer a republican mole? Conyers was a progressive firebrand and has become a tired old man. Read doesnt run the Senate. Pelosi isnt any better.

What are you going to win? When?

These thugs had you in 2000. You cant beat them.

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Youffraita Says:

Paul Krugman has been all over this issue for years. And everything he’s written has been, IMHO, absolutely correct. We already have a single-payer medical system that works beautifully: it is called Medicare. Why not expand it to include the whole country?

My Norwegian ex’s sister chose to live in Norway, not the U.S., as an adult because she felt that the U.S. was entirely too corrupt and uncaring. In 1981 or so I couldn’t wholeheartedly agree with her.

In the ensuing 30 years, unfortunately, the U.S. has proven her correct. With only a few exceptions, the Dems are almost as venal as the GOP. Meanwhile, bread and circuses occupy the mouth-breathers.

It just p*sses me off that when our side has the ball and should be running with it (pick your issue!), they stumble, fumble, and return the ball with apologies.

Uh…how do I emigrate to Norway, again?

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The Children Says:

F**k George Bush and the horse he rode in on!

In keeping with subject, Chris Matthews did a whole segment of his show tonight about what Congressman Stark said. Not a lot of mention of the fate of poor sick kids here in the US. He had Stephanie Miller and some dick named Kevin Miller. Both have radio shows. If you can’t bear to watch the whole show, watch this part. Stephanie called Chris a ‘right wing tool” Then she said she was just kidding. But before she said she was kidding Chris got all pissy with her because she said they should be talking about money for poor sick kids rather than what Stark said. Chris jumped on her and said, why did you come on the show to talk about this if you didn’t want to talk about it. It was a rather tense moment. But the dick, Kevin, says some things you will not believe.

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anon Says:

Youffraita @ 10:

Paul Krugman has been all over this issue for years. And everything he’s written has been, IMHO, absolutely correct. We already have a single-payer medical system that works beautifully: it is called Medicare. Why not expand it to include the whole country?

My Norwegian ex’s sister chose to live in Norway, not the U.S., as an adult because she felt that the U.S. was entirely too corrupt and uncaring. In 1981 or so I couldn’t wholeheartedly agree with her.

In the ensuing 30 years, unfortunately, the U.S. has proven her correct. With only a few exceptions, the Dems are almost as venal as the GOP. Meanwhile, bread and circuses occupy the mouth-breathers.

It just p*sses me off that when our side has the ball and should be running with it (pick your issue!), they stumble, fumble, and return the ball with apologies.

Uh…how do I emigrate to Norway, again?

I remember meeting several Nowegians while I was in college in the ’70s. They just hated the US and couldnt wait to get back to Norway. They accused the US of everything from warmongering to child abuse - in the ’70s.

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Rancid Poodle Says:

“It’s for the children” is the lamest excuse for just about any “you should pay for the stuff I want” program ever proposed. Did you look at the clip you put up? They live in a better house than I do, send their kids to gymnastics, have a nice little toy car. Maybe if they spent their money on the kids health they wouldn’t need to “choose” between their own kids.

There isn’t even a logical fallacy here - there’s not a logical connection. (”that means a choice _is_ being made over which child will be sacrificed”).

Hey, if all it takes to get people to support something is that W is against it, you have surrendered your own minds and NEED someone to make these choices for you. And if kids are “sacrificed” (they aren’t), well, it’s just evolution in action.

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Stupid Git Says:

L.A. Confidential @ 2:

With so many Americans obsessed with celebrity gossip and glamor I don’t think Bush has that much to worry about.

Did you see the photos of New Yorks picketing over the loss of Joe Torre? Seriously, that’s what people get riled up enough to march for now days? It made me sick. It’s a frickin’ baseball team. I’ve seen no marches for the loss of liberties, the drum beat of war with Iran or the Iraq fiasco in almost a year in this city but the exit of a manager from a baseball team, now that’s something we need to take a stand on!!!

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Stupid Git Says:

The Children @ 11:

F**k George Bush and the horse he rode in on!

He’s afraid of horses, so your line should read, “F**k George Bush and the truck he drunkenly drove in.”

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Blue Gal Says:

Rancid Poodle @ 14:

“It’s for the children” is the lamest excuse for just about any “you should pay for the stuff I want” program ever proposed. Did you look at the clip you put up? They live in a better house than I do, send their kids to gymnastics, have a nice little toy car. Maybe if they spent their money on the kids health they wouldn’t need to “choose” between their own kids.

There isn’t even a logical fallacy here - there’s not a logical connection. (”that means a choice _is_ being made over which child will be sacrificed”).

Hey, if all it takes to get people to support something is that W is against it, you have surrendered your own minds and NEED someone to make these choices for you. And if kids are “sacrificed” (they aren’t), well, it’s just evolution in action.

Poodle, I’ve got a nice house etc., too. What I don’t have is 964 dollars a MONTH to pay for what Blue Cross says is “affordable” health insurance for me and my kids. If I try to buy a less expensive plan with a higher deductible I am turned down because of pre-existing conditions. The pre-existing condition imho is that I’m currently paying more for their product, so why should they cut their price? If there was any justice in this world, the insurance companies would greed themselves out of a job, if you ask me.

As far as my “white men” comment, JC @ 6, You’re right. I’ll correct that to “fully covered by health insurance.” Sensitive enough for you?

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Doggiebobo Says:

Stupid Git @ 15:

L.A. Confidential @ 2:

With so many Americans obsessed with celebrity gossip and glamor I don’t think Bush has that much to worry about.

Did you see the photos of New Yorks picketing over the loss of Joe Torre? Seriously, that’s what people get riled up enough to march for now days? It made me sick. It’s a frickin’ baseball team. I’ve seen no marches for the loss of liberties, the drum beat of war with Iran or the Iraq fiasco in almost a year in this city but the exit of a manager from a baseball team, now that’s something we need to take a stand on!!!

And to top that off, poooooor Joe T. turned down the offer because NY would pay him
“only” 3 Million for one year contract. Yep, everyone and everything seems turned upside
down….

19
loulou Says:

Disabled people use SCHIP too. And now that Social Security no longer allows American citizens previously court awarded disability to use that order in their own behalf, SCHIP may refuse us too. So sounds to me that Mr. Romney’s plan to tax and fine citizens of the state of Massachusetts for being uninsured, is aimed directly at DISABLED AMERICAN CITIZENS with a lot of help from BushCo et al.
I will say with certainty that you have only heard the beginning of this argument. DOJ allows SSA to ignore court orders. This is reminscent of Nazi Germany’s plans to get rid of old and sick people. Will other Americans allow it????????

George may literally be a “sick child”, thus his resistance to anyone thinking about them.

And when a (mentally) sick child is in charge, can anything that’s happening these days come as a surprise???

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Stupid Git Says:

Rancid Poodle @ 14:

“It’s for the children” is the lamest excuse for just about any “you should pay for the stuff I want” program ever proposed. Did you look at the clip you put up? They live in a better house than I do, send their kids to gymnastics, have a nice little toy car. Maybe if they spent their money on the kids health they wouldn’t need to “choose” between their own kids.

There isn’t even a logical fallacy here - there’s not a logical connection. (”that means a choice _is_ being made over which child will be sacrificed”).

Hey, if all it takes to get people to support something is that W is against it, you have surrendered your own minds and NEED someone to make these choices for you. And if kids are “sacrificed” (they aren’t), well, it’s just evolution in action.

So, because you’re jealous they have a better house than you their kids shouldn’t be provided for? You feel they should move their family into a cheap apartment in a bad part of town and not give them any toys or other “luxuries” because they need to be responsible for the profits of one of the most profitable and corrupt legitimate industries to ever plague a civilized nation? Have you seen the statistics about how much of the nation’s bankrupcies are caused by outrageous health bills? Just curious.

Here’s some details and a link in case you decide to care:

From The “National Association of Insurance Agents” website:

A recent Harvard study¹ found that about half of all Americans filing for bankruptcy do so because of the high medical expenses associated with a catastrophic illness or injury.

But over 75% of study participants who ended up bankrupt due to medical costs were “typical, middle-class Americans” who had health insurance coverage,

http://www.pianet.com/NewsCent.....-05-12.htm

Grow a heart.

22
jr Says:

Mr. 1,600 acre ranch takes his govt health care but expects the Frosts to sell their home

23
sophiedog Says:

Rancid Poodle @ 14:

“It’s for the children” is the lamest excuse for just about any “you should pay for the stuff I want” program ever proposed. Did you look at the clip you put up? They live in a better house than I do, send their kids to gymnastics, have a nice little toy car. Maybe if they spent their money on the kids health they wouldn’t need to “choose” between their own kids.

There isn’t even a logical fallacy here - there’s not a logical connection. (”that means a choice _is_ being made over which child will be sacrificed”).

Hey, if all it takes to get people to support something is that W is against it, you have surrendered your own minds and NEED someone to make these choices for you. And if kids are “sacrificed” (they aren’t), well, it’s just evolution in action.

George Bush and his Flat Earth Society don’t believe in evolution.
For that matter, they don’t believe in poor people, black people, the constitution, democracy, etc., etc., etc.

24
Civil Disobedience Says:

Bush also doesn’t want you using common sense:

People in the reality-based community should have no problem whatsoever in realizing that the uppermost portion of a skyscraper is not going to be able to “fall” into and THROUGH the remaining vast majority of solid building as quickly, meaning as effortlessly as falling through air without something else (i.e. explosives) reducing said majority of building to such a state of offering no more resistance than air. Can we all agree on that? Sounds pretty straightforward; solid things offer vastly more resistance than air. Anyone who graduated elementary school SHOULD be able to grasp this, and SHOULD be able to therefore grasp that the Twin Towers and WTC # 7 building had to have been controlled demolitions. It is literally COMMON SENSE.

25
Jimmi the Grey Says:

Stupid Git @ 15:

L.A. Confidential @ 2:

With so many Americans obsessed with celebrity gossip and glamor I don’t think Bush has that much to worry about.

Did you see the photos of New Yorks picketing over the loss of Joe Torre? Seriously, that’s what people get riled up enough to march for now days? It made me sick. It’s a frickin’ baseball team. I’ve seen no marches for the loss of liberties, the drum beat of war with Iran or the Iraq fiasco in almost a year in this city but the exit of a manager from a baseball team, now that’s something we need to take a stand on!!!

I would argue that MSM coverage has more to do with what you see or don’t see than who/howmany/what is being protested. I’ve seen several marches personally…in person here in Portland Oregon. Have yet to see one televised. Well, since the ’90s anyway.

The Revolution Will NOT Be Televised.

26
imindie Says:

Since when did hypocrisy become trendy? Recons are just plain pathetic. George Bush hates children.period!!!! Unless they are still in someone, then its his write to get on in there.

27
BoiseNick Says:

ya know 1 big reason it Failed ? hundreds of thousands of we smokers adamantly but passively opposed the totally un-fair 61 cent PER pack tax . Sorry bub, I’m NOT payin’ more than $6 a carton to buy any-body’s kids something I don’t even have ! find a way to spread the tax pain aRound a bit , THEN we’ll talk , , ,

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Stupid Git Says:

BoiseNick @ 27:

ya know 1 big reason it Failed ? hundreds of thousands of we smokers adamantly but passively opposed the totally un-fair 61 cent PER pack tax . Sorry bub, I’m NOT payin’ more than $6 a carton to buy any-body’s kids something I don’t even have ! find a way to spread the tax pain aRound a bit , THEN we’ll talk , , ,

Dude, where do you get smokes for 6 bucks a pack? The cost about $8 a pack in NYC… and yet I still smoke. Talk about accelerated natural selection.

29
Jack Damage Says:

Of course Bush doesn’t want anyone thinking about sick children.. He’d much rather have everyone scared shitless of turrurists, Raising hell about sport managers jobs, worrying about taxes, (cuts, audits, pick your flavor) watching pablum on T.V, spending money on the retail industries for the holidays, looking up to and regarding him as some sort of savior of U.S. cultural norms, and giving money and electing republican politicians so the entire sick charade can continue….

Meanwhile, people are losing homes and jobs to nafta and a housing mortgage meltdown, the military is being bled dry in 5 to 15 dead a day increments, we’re using mercs to kill people overseas and calling it security, the overall economy is tettering on the brink of some kind of desaster, and healthcare, hell, everything from gas to bandaids is slowly becoming unafordable…

We could have 3/4th of the population living in the streets and still these asses will insist things are just rosy and all we have to do is let the free market do its thing…Fuck it, fuck him… JD

BoiseNick @ 27:

ya know 1 big reason it Failed ? hundreds of thousands of we smokers adamantly but passively opposed the totally un-fair 61 cent PER pack tax . Sorry bub, I’m NOT payin’ more than $6 a carton to buy any-body’s kids something I don’t even have ! find a way to spread the tax pain aRound a bit , THEN we’ll talk , , ,

Isn’t smoking a “lifestyle choice”?

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miss_kitty Says:

PNAAC Minister @ 30:

BoiseNick @ 27:

ya know 1 big reason it Failed ? hundreds of thousands of we smokers adamantly but passively opposed the totally un-fair 61 cent PER pack tax . Sorry bub, I’m NOT payin’ more than $6 a carton to buy any-body’s kids something I don’t even have ! find a way to spread the tax pain aRound a bit , THEN we’ll talk , , ,

Isn’t smoking a “lifestyle choice”?

Yes it is. And it’s one I chose to give up,in part due to its expense nearly ten years ago. I hate crybaby smokers. If you’re gonna play, you gotta pay. It’s that simple.

BTW, I still want a cigarette, nearly every day. It’s like any addiction-one day at a time.

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cubiclegrrl Says:

imindie @ 26:

Since when did hypocrisy become trendy? Recons are just plain pathetic. George Bush hates children.period!!!! Unless they are still in someone, then its his write to get on in there.

Love the stem cell, hate the child. Welcome to the Greedy Old Party, dude.

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Doggiebobo Says:

Stupid Git @ 28:

BoiseNick @ 27:

ya know 1 big reason it Failed ? hundreds of thousands of we smokers adamantly but passively opposed the totally un-fair 61 cent PER pack tax . Sorry bub, I’m NOT payin’ more than $6 a carton to buy any-body’s kids something I don’t even have ! find a way to spread the tax pain aRound a bit , THEN we’ll talk , , ,

Dude, where do you get smokes for 6 bucks a pack? The cost about $8 a pack in NYC… and yet I still smoke. Talk about accelerated natural selection.

Have you heard/read the recent released report about “second hand smoke” and it too
causes health issues; especially in children? By the way, I gave up smoking about a year
ago because the price of cigs went UP to $3.75 per pack…now they cost $4.50 locally,
so I feel as if I have saved on two accounts; cost of cigs and my health, with latter being
much more important.

34
sammy Says:

No, gee dub does not want you to think PERIOD.

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sophiedog Says:

BoiseNick @ 27:

ya know 1 big reason it Failed ? hundreds of thousands of we smokers adamantly but passively opposed the totally un-fair 61 cent PER pack tax . Sorry bub, I’m NOT payin’ more than $6 a carton to buy any-body’s kids something I don’t even have ! find a way to spread the tax pain aRound a bit , THEN we’ll talk , , ,

The problem is that there is no way an across the board tax, no matter how small, would never pass. Ever since GHWB uttered those infamous words “Read my lips….” the tax word has become a third rail in politics. The Dems are too chickenshit to propose anything but a tax that hits an easy target (smokers) and the Republicans are too chickenshit to take a stand for a VALID children’s health care program if it means being painted as a tax and spender. Do you really think a tax that is spread across the board, like a very small federal sales tax (1/8 cent or even 1/16 cent) would pass? Sorry, but you - as a smoker - are an easy target. Kind of like that kid, Graeme Frost, who has been bilking the federal government to keep himself alive. How DARE he be poor and sick!

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BoiseNick Says:

Dude, where do you get smokes for 6 bucks a pack? The cost about $8 a pack in NYC… and yet I still smoke. Talk about accelerated natural selection.

I went from Salems ($?) to Misty ($3/pack-$27/carton-WEEEE , Idaho!) menthol , yeah , they’re lady cigs , but who “f”in’ cares, they’re cHeap ! & if they go up much more , black-market ones would be IMHO , an ethical choice .

… Isn’t smoking a “lifestyle choice”?…

ehh–YEP , so let’s choose something that you like that qualifies as “lifestyle” blah-blah and tax THAT .


…I hate crybaby smokers. If you’re gonna play, you gotta pay. It’s that simple. …

First off , eVeryBody hates reformed smokers , , , OK ?
Secondly , I’m So SORRY , , , Nanny Govt. supporter/toadie (imho) , for the affront in my having the opinion that we ALL should pay , ’stead of a (your) “selection” of those in dis-favor , today . WoW , whata concept , spread it aRound & all , B it wealth , health OR taxes . Or , is that commOOnizzim ?