don't get too excited, "when pigs fly." ain't gonna happen.

Time is long overdue to expose the corrupt and criminal activity of the bush regime. Bush is among things an international war criminal and americans need to say it out loud. So far the culture of coward dems in in congress have betrayed us by not exposing the Bush regime for what they have done to the constitution.

Look, up in the sky, it's a bird, it's a plane, IT'S A PIG :)

This can't possibly be true. If it is, then this would be the first person in Bush's administration to be held accountable for beaking our laws. I don't count Scooter-boy, because he managed to leave a slime trail too faint for the prosecutor to pick up on, and so had to be held accountable for lying about his possible lies.

Can't Presidents give blanket, pre-emptive pardons, like Ford gave Nixon?

Gonzales is getting a libby. Nothing to see here.

In case anyone is wondering, here's the inspector general:

Glenn Fine

Looks like he got in before Bush did, which explains a lot.

He fits the description of an Enemy Combatant, so let the Justice department classify him as one and apply the same rules that have been applied to others. This will bypass any pardon consideration and keep him in custody until a clear conclusion of the statues that he proclaimed are clarified under the constitutionality of the United States LAWS and policies.

By most accounts, Attorney General nominee Michael Mukasey is not the intellectually stunted, duplicitous partisan hatchet man and unabashed Bush loyalist that was his predecessor, Alberto Gonzales. But in his testimony this week before the Senate Judiciary Committee this week, Mukasey followed almost the same script on Bush administration torture policy as Gonzales during his own confirmation hearings in January 2005. As it turns out, both men disavowed the infamous 2002 Bybee memo and brushed aside questions about ongoing torture of detainees as "hypothetical" even as the policies continued unchanged.

For the details, see:
"Deja Vu: Mukasey Channels Gonzales' 2005 Testimony."

Don't get your hopes up.

Bush will pardon Fredo even if Fredo hasn't been convicted yet and it's Bush's last official act.

This administration is little more than a crime family with a thin veneer of legitimacy. Why do you think that Bush himself nicknamed Gonzales "Fredo?"

I don't care if Georgie pardons Gonzo before he leaves office. It will be another nail in the Republican Party's coffin come election time. I want the facts of the case publicized so Americans can see how evil and criminal the Bush Crime Family Administration really is.

Spokesman-Review is the newspaper from Spokane, WASHINGTON. Not in Idaho!

Nicole Belle: I apologize. The C&Ler who tipped me on the article said it was from Idaho and it lists Idaho temperatures on the top of the page, so I went with it. I'll fix it now.

Even if Gonzales is not prosecuted expect him to be disbarred.

Prosecute under state laws. The President can only pardon federal crimes.

There is only one thing I'd like better than to see this filthy, disgusting, immoral shell of man get what's coming to him: Cheney and Bush eventually getting the same things.

Here we go again - another investigation that will come to ZILCH. nothing.

The rule of law doesn't exist anymore.

Gonzalez is an embarrassment to all Hispanic people, including myself. This fucking prick is just going to say, "I do not recall" over and over again. Just put him in jail and get it over with.

At least [Please do not advocate the torture of anyone on this site-Sitemonitor], then ask him if he still thinks the Geneva Conventions are quaint.

My favorite Gonzo moment:

"I can't recall if I remember."

Wow. Accountability and checks & balances in action. Who would have thought?

Alberto, a creiminal? No way. All he did was lie, cheat, destroy the Constitution, eliminate Bush's enemies, and torture. As for as George Bush is concerned, these make him an all American guy who did a great job. I wish that we could send Gonzo, Dick, and George as well as Rummy to Alcatraz! This period in American historu represents the Dark Ages!

Yep, and any day now we are going to see the rest of those pictures and video tapes from Abu Ghraib. You just wait.

Oops, that should be, "...that have to be issued before 11:59pm..."

Want to have some fun tweaking Little-Green-Fottballers?

http://digg.com/political_opinion/Crooks_and_Liars_Lying_About_Stark

Man, those guys have really drunk the conservative kool-aid.

Will Mukasey be able to stop this guy? He’s already demonstrated his willingness to carry Bush/Cheney water. If not, what we can hope for is a full and public investigation followed by a presidential pardon.

At this point, that looks pretty good.

Right.

Plainly, we've seen over and over that those who talk about honor, duty, values and ethics are the ones who are the most bent toward the shallow end of self-enrichment and self-preservation.

Gonzo will not quickly fall on his sword to save face for the Republican Party the same way Larry Craig and Vitter did not go quietly. Good.

I don’t care if Georgie pardons Gonzo before he leaves office

I do. I really do. When all government officials are above the law, we have a real problem here.
A huge problem, and it won't go away by ignoring it. You can't "pardon" someone before they are accused -- it is just banana republic ridiculous.

On the other hand:

3. Five-year waiting period required

Under the Department's rules governing petitions for executive clemency, 28 C.F.R. §§ 1.1 et seq., a minimum waiting period of five years after completion of sentence is required before anyone convicted of a federal offense becomes eligible to apply for a presidential pardon. The waiting period, which is designed to afford the petitioner a reasonable period of time in which to demonstrate an ability to lead a responsible, productive and law-abiding life, begins on the date of the petitioner's release from confinement. Alternatively, if the conviction resulted in a sentence other than a term of imprisonment, such as probation or a fine, the waiting period begins on the date of sentencing. In addition, the petitioner should have satisfied the penalty imposed, including all probation, parole, or supervised release. Moreover, the waiting period begins upon release from confinement for your most recent c onviction, whether or not this is the offense for which pardon is sought. You may make a written request for a waiver of this requirement. However, waiver of any portion of the waiting period is rarely granted and then only in the most exceptional circumstances. In order to request a waiver, you must complete the pardon application form and submit it with a cover letter explaining why you believe the waiting period should be waived in your case.

So he still would have to serve 5 years, yes?

10. Effect of a pardon

While a presidential pardon will restore various rights lost as a result of the pardoned offense and should lessen to some extent the stigma arising from a conviction, it will not erase or expunge the record of your conviction. Therefore, even if you are granted a pardon, you must still disclose your conviction on any form where such information is required, although you may also disclose the fact that you received a pardon. In addition, most civil disabilities attendant upon a federal felony conviction, such as loss of the right to vote and hold state public office, are imposed by state rather than federal law, and also may be removed by state action. Because the federal pardon process is exacting and may be more time-consuming than analogous state procedures, you may wish to consult with the appropriate authorities in the state of your residence regarding the procedures for restoring your state civil rights.

From here. Gee, so I could still call him a con. To quote a Supreme Justice, "whoop-de-fucking-do". I would hope that he'd roll over on Bush, but what's the point? Bush has the pardon power, so there is no incentive to cooperate or be honest. This country is going to hell.

From way back in a February 2001 press conference (his first?):

DAVID GREGORY: On the Rich pardon specifically, former President Carter said that in his opinion, it was "disgraceful." Do you not have an opinion on a power that is absolute and is vested in you as the President?

THE PRESIDENT: My opinion is I will -- should I decide to grant pardons, I will do so in a fair way. I'll have the highest of high standards.

Ah yes. You have such "high standards" as our Chief Monkey.

Gonzo will get a pardon. Glenn Fine will get "suicided."

How about we question him using some of the methods that he says are NOT torture?

We could bet on the number of rounds of waterboarding he can take before spilling his guts.

I'm sure this guy has the goods on the bad guys. The "ticking-time bomb" scenario works perfectly for Gonzo. He probably knows when the White is planning to start bombing Iran. He probably has lots of secret memos regarding the suppression of journalists and the targeting of non-Bushie politicians and justice department people.

This guy has the goods. The clock is ticking. And remember - by the AG's own definition - this is NOT torture.

Water boarding did happen to be one of Pol Pots favorite techniques in the Killing Fields of Cambodia, buy hey - IT'S NOT TORTURE, so it's OK and legal, especially given the grave threat to national security posed by someone like Mr. Gonzales.

Just like in"24!"

Gonzo was a spineless toady, a "yes man". His nick name was Fredo, afterall. While it would be satisfying to see him charged and tried, I'd get far more satisfaction seeing the guys who gave him his marching orders held accountable.

we need to clean our own house, pelosi, before we can start cleaning house on the other side. i'll never forgive her for the inexcusable, "impeachment isn't even on the table." what???? get rid of her and talk about sending a message. either do what you were elected to do or you're out.

nothing will come of this.......Would someone please give me a reason to believe this will result in him or anyone being held accountable?.....just one.........

he he more merry fitzmass hysteria , the trolls laughed in your faces as you celibrated , guess they were as smart as i was i didnt believe anything was going to happen to cheny or libby , funny thing i dont see any joy in mudville on gonzo either ,

The best we can hope for out of the Democrats is more theater. There are only three obvious reasons why they have taken the position of going along to get along and acomplishing nothing...It's true they have no spine for this kind of thing...They are in on all of it up to their necks and seek the same ends...Bush's warrentless wiretapping/spying program has landed something on them all and they have been given permission to use just enough information of the Bush administration's criminal activities to create the dramatic theater needed to make it appear they are "doing" something about it.
Americans are suckers for bullshit drama.

Sorry, but I don't hold out much hope for this. The inspector general was probably appointed by Bush/Rove and will, a la Arlen Specter, talk sternly and then say that his concerns have been satisfied and nothing will happen. I hate to be so damn cynical, but these criminals know that the Dems are not going to pursue them.

I've said it before and will say it again, if you look at the definition of domestic terrorist in the USA PATRIOT Act, Gonzo could be prosecuted as a terrorist.

if the act appears to be intended to: (i) intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion;

Firing attorneys that are investigating corruption within the govt. does in fact influence the policy of a govt. and it is, in fact, intimidating to other attorneys investigation corrupt govt. officials.

If it can be proved that gonzo had those attorneys fired for political reasons, he should be tried as a terrorist, in accordance with the USA Patriot Act.

It's nice to know that the PATRIOT Act isn't totally useless.

We wrote the song two years ago. Add Gonzo to the list of hypocrites who have made it more prophetic every day.

-Wackiavelli

Tim in Japan @ 71:

I've said it before and will say it again, if you look at the definition of domestic terrorist in the USA PATRIOT Act, Gonzo could be prosecuted as a terrorist.

if the act appears to be intended to: (i) intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion;

Firing attorneys that are investigating corruption within the govt. does in fact influence the policy of a govt. and it is, in fact, intimidating to other attorneys investigation corrupt govt. officials.

If it can be proved that gonzo had those attorneys fired for political reasons, he should be tried as a terrorist, in accordance with the USA Patriot Act.

It's nice to know that the PATRIOT Act isn't totally useless.

How many of the US Attys were fired for investigating FISA violations, rendition abuse, and US government violations of laws of war in re prisoner abuse?

Blaknwite @ 67:

The best we can hope for out of the Democrats is more theater. There are only three obvious reasons why they have taken the position of going along to get along and acomplishing nothing...It's true they have no spine for this kind of thing...They are in on all of it up to their necks and seek the same ends...Bush's warrentless wiretapping/spying program has landed something on them all and they have been given permission to use just enough information of the Bush administration's criminal activities to create the dramatic theater needed to make it appear they are "doing" something about it.
Americans are suckers for bullshit drama.

If, as many fear, Congress isn't serious about enforcing the law, let's put some energy into getting the State Attorney General's into prosecuting. They have a role. State AG's -- as attorneys -- have the power to direct their state auditors and state disciplinary boards to focus resources to investigate and disbar legal counsel. Gonzalez didn't act alone.

Time for the State AG's to get a call from the political leadership in your state: Encourage the State AG's to:

A. Open investigations into DoJ-WH-OVP legal counsel assigned to your state, and where needed have that legal counsel disbarred/prevented from practicing law in any of the 50 states or Federal Court/US government;
B. Investigate how the US government has illegally used state resources to implement war crimes, illegal prisoner abuse, kidnapping, and other rendition-related activities in violation of the laws of war/Geneva;
C. Work with other state officials to investigate, gather evidence, and ultimately prosecute CEOs of firms that are illegally providing resources to the US government to help implement, support, and carry out war crimes, illegal warfare, and violations of Geneva conventions.
D. Lead efforts to encourage state auditors to understand which state-level entities are providing unlawful assistance to the US government to carry out, implement, and hide illegal violations of Geneva, prisoner abuse, and other violations of the laws of war.
 
Just because the Congress decides to "not enforce" the Constitution -- the FISA warrant requirements -- doesn't mean the State AGs are obliged to follow the Congress' illegal lead. They have a higher duty to the Constitution and your state statutes to ensure Members of Congress and the President do not use your state resources, personnel, or attorneys to implement illegal warfare, war crimes, kidnapping, or other breaches of the Geneva Conventions.

YEEEOWZA!

So Gonzo the Goon tries to oust US Attorneys for NOT prosecuting Democratic politicians right around election time...

and now, if the Gonzo Goof goes into election season won't that be a case of being hoisted by your own petard?!

ahahahahahahhahaahha!!!

tyree @ 65:

he he more merry fitzmass hysteria , the trolls laughed in your faces as you celibrated , guess they were as smart as i was i didnt believe anything was going to happen to cheny or libby , funny thing i dont see any joy in mudville on gonzo either ,

Tyree...WTF are you talking about?

Good strategy Al! Keep it up until next fall!

jr @ 60:

I hope Gonzo gets fitted for an orange jumpsuit

I hope he doesn't get fitted. I hope they hand one to him off the rack, preferably after the prison haircut and the cavity search. I hope it makes him look short and fat. Well, I can dream.

[Max. Have you ever thought of sucking less? Sitemonitor]

Blaknwite @ 84:

Back to "Wondering" (#76). Sorry my friend. That can not happen in the real world. We gave it our best shot in '06 and have been betrayed by the major players ever since.
Ya kow, I had been bitching about the early campaigns until lately. I had already determined that if Hillary Clinton were to run she would get my vote. Now that I've had the opportunity to see what she is really about, I wouldn't vote for her on a bet. I also turn away any political solicitations by informing that the only people who really represent me is MoveOn.org and that is where I put my money. The rest can either grow a pair or piss off.

You don't know what Hillary is really like because she's too smart to lay all her cards on the table before the election.

"All I can say is I hope he is stupid enough to drag this out past next November. Nothing better than an election season trial to remind all voters what a corrupt bunch we’ve had sitting around D.C."

Wow! The author figures American's need to be reminded how corrupt this Bush government is huh? If a reminder is necessary, your republic is DOOMED! This rivals 83% of Thai's thinking corruption is pretty much OK; At least a huge portion only have about a grade 3 education whereas Americans have no excuses for their ignorance.

I hope he drags this out..nothing will happen to him.If anything...it will serve as a reminder for the nation.At just how corrupt these people have become.So the only benefit that will come of this....is all the bad publicity....running up to the next election.

Gonzales will be prosecuted right after the entire population of pigs flies.