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On Monday’s Hardball Chris Matthews talked with Jim Walsh from MIT and Joshua Muravchik from the American Enterprise Institute to discuss Iran and whether or not the U.S. should attack. In what was one of Matthews’ more palatable segments, he grills Muravchik, who says he doesn’t care when we attack Iran just as long as we do it soon because, in his words, there are no alternatives.
Both Matthews and Walsh fail to mention Sunni militants, supported by Saudis, who are actually responsible for the majority of attacks on U.S. soldiers and the fact that the Bush administration doesn’t seem to want to acknowledge it. Walsh did warn that invading Iran would be a giant mistake:
Walsh: “…It would be extremely costly. I mean, if you liked the war in Iraq, you would love the war in Iran. Whether it’s battlefield deaths in Afghanistan or Iraq, because you know, Iran’s not gonna just going to sit there and take it; they’re going to come back after us. If we have an IED problem today, just think imagine what it’s going to be like…”
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Let’s see, Saddam was dumping the dollar and we invaded them.
Now that Iran has dumped the dollar…..well.
yeah, sure, let’s go bombing now. That preemptive strike we did in Iraq is still going on, and we all feel so much safer. By the way, who’s next after Iran?
uncle wally @ 2:
Syria.
Which is probably why Chimpy gets so defensive when asked about it - he has trouble when events transpire other than how he wants them to.
The big question is ‘when,’ and that’s followed by ‘what will the Democrats/American people/other countries do about it?’
Please Mr. Bush & Mr. Cheney–only one war at a time! Oops, I mean, only two wars at a time–oops, I mean only three…
The alternatives are for the warmongers to GO TO HELL.
Walsh: “…It would be extremely costly. I mean,
I am beginning to be tired of this mentality in the US. Not even critics of the administration cares about non-us deaths. I have come to the conclusion that major parts of the US population is a lot less civilized than assumed. They simply don’t care about people elsewhere.
Rudy’s mid-east advisors, headed by the godfather of all neo-cons, Norman “bomb Iran now” Podhoretz, all want to bomb Iran ASAP.
TPMtv: Meet the Four Horsemen of Rudy’s Apocalypse
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/056028.php
If he becomes Prez, we are guaranteed WWIII (or IV whatever they’re calling it now)
At least Bush’s new Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, thinks they are all nuts.
IN PREPARATION FOR INVASION OF IRAN, ADMINISTRATION DIGS UP THE SHAH
‘why bomb now? - uh…………………………………..’
That was funny to watch. No good answer.
haha Joshua Muravchik looked like a deer caught in the headlights when chris matthews pressed him.
Aw crap, come on.
Stark Apologizes
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/....._fails.php
I actually watched this live yesterday and it was funny how Chris Matthes kept asking that idiot with the glasses, “give me an explanation to why we have to bomb Iran now.” and the idiot kept stumbling over his words.
It’s funny. People want to bomb Iran, yet they have not good reason as to why. This is what you get when you get people that are too fanatical and have them in power. I.E. Bush, Cheney, and the whole neo-conservative nut jobs.
Why are these clowns from the American Enterprise Institute always given a voice on programs like Matthews’ and touted as ‘expert’ on some issue. Highly paid shills who sit around and think of ways to fuck over the rest of the country and feather their own nests and those of their benefactors.
Who died and made us the world’s police? I don’t hear the rest of the world going apeshit about this….and Russia will not be too happy with a “bomb Iran” plan….its just paving the way for more military industrial complex riches, so when Bush says ” I need another 46 bill….no make that 80 billion for THREE wars” everyone will HAVE to agree and more money will flow to the bomb makers…
let me guess… Muravchik has no children serving in the military.
I would imagine Dr. Freud could hazard a guess…
What the hell is wrong with Tweety Matthews ?
Claiming Joshua Muravchik is an “expert” on anything except being a typical neo-cancervative imbecile is like claiming Chimpy is an expert on public speaking ………
Shadowgm @ 3:
I swear. I don’t fucking understand Bush’s and Heart Attack Cheney’s logic. So, we have to spread democracy to the Middle East and all other dictatorships around the world. WHY!?!?!?
So by their logic, North Korea, Cuba, Communist China, and all other dictatorships are up next. Nice mentality Neo-Cons…
Neo-Cons, gotta love them… they think they can borrow money from China to endanger their very own oil supply to play their game of global domination. The temper tantrum they are going to throw is going to be pathetic, after all they are too chikenshit to enlist, so mostly will be a bunch of grown men crying on why mommy China is not letting them go into Iran.
So yea dipshits, keep on talking the tough talk, and we will see you backpedaling at supersonic speeds once China starts dumping dollars and make the 1929 depression look like a walk in the park.
See you at the breadline assholes…
If I want to muzzle these maniacs who call for a suicidal war with Iran, would I be denying them First Amendment rights?
I think not. As the cliche goes, Freedom of Speech doesn’t cover the right to shout “Fire” in a crowded movie house. I’m surprised that anyone thinks it covers an exhortation of mass murder.
“Only an idiot fights a war on two fronts. Only the heir to a kingdom of idiots fights a war on a thousand!”
– Londo Mollari, Babylon 5
Normally, I’d say the possibility of Russia and/or China stepping in to say a few words might have the necessary chilling effect to keep our leaders from going off half-cocked.
But these are the people who ignored their previous assessment of what would happen in Iraq if we toppled Saddam, who have been consistently wrong on every call they’ve made.
Iran will be another entry in the ‘ideology overpowering reality’ ledger.
In a perfect world when asked “why bomb iran now?” Muravchik would’ve looked down in shame and said “because my penis doesn’t work”.
god the AEI guys is a fucking moron! isnt Blankly a fellow there now?
lucid fiction @ 1:
Right now I’m split between Kucinich and Ron Paul. My appeal to Paul is that he would get us back on this gold standard so our dollar isn’t some worthless piece of paper that can be intentionally driven down. The U.S. government would start creating it’s own money and stop paying the federal reserve [private] bank interest on borrowing from it. And we’d pull out of the Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran wars. That takes care of a lot. The dollar becomes stable and we are out of those foreign wars.
Why the hell is AEI on Hardball? Of COURSE the guy is going to say “bomb Iran” - that’s what they do! It’s like asking a NAMBLA member whether MySpace is a good thing.
Ain’t being an EMPIRE a bitch?
I’m assuming the AEI guys have their reservations to bunk at Mount Weather according to NSPD 51 National Security Presidential Directive 51, “National Continuity Policy” to be spewing talk like this.
He can’t be serious. I mean who in their right mind would think …
Never mind. I just answered my own question.
I’m feeling shitty and cynical enough that I half hope that they do start a war with Iran. Only because MAYBE … MAYBE Americans will turn off American Idol and take this country back.
During this “debate”, not one of these so-called experts thought it prudent to mention that Iran has repeatedly stated that it has no intention of building a nuclear bomb; rather, it intends to build a nuclear facility in its use of that country’s energy production. If it did somehow manage to build a nuclear bomb, it would be used as a deterrent against Israel’s 250 or so nuclear weapons. Yet this discussion on Hardball, the show that allegedly asks the tough questions that the other shows shy away from from, is what passes for trenchant political analysis on the corporate airwaves.
OT: Another Dem(Stark from Calif.) has buckled under and has made an apology to
the troops and to bush-lite for his previous comments made on the floor of the House
of Reps. when speaking about “our” Congress failing to override bush’s veto on the SCHIP.
Guess those of us were, once again, wasting our energy and efforts in contacting his
office and telling him NOT to make an apology…
Where does AEI propose getting ground troops to stabilize the situation?
AEI helped do analysis on the US surge in Iraq, which has failed. Is there something which AEI has to warrant confidence in their “analysis” on Iraq?
i’m just going to be a good little american and say nothing.
The talking heads for war.
Very pro-war and happily trying to talk everyone else into supporting their latest war adventure. While they sit here pontificating in luxurious comfort. I have yet to see one of these talking heads sign up.
PurplePatriot @ 28:
Don’t even think it. If we let these idiots start a full-scale war with Iran, we are totally screwed. All of us. Maybe forever.
Israel should just tell Iran look if you guys fu*k with us we are sending EVERYTHING we got at you. Nukes, you name it. Now, do we want to talk peace? Cooperation, trade, prosperity, growth? Good. We thought so. Now, let’s get started and put our peoples talents to good use and do something for the future of humanity.
Geno in Ptown @ 17:
It’s quite telling when one considers which dictatorships they choose to topple and when they choose to topple them.
Shadowgm @ 3:
Well I already know what canada will do. They’ll wait for the chimp’s handler, darth dildo, to send them a note on what they should do next.
!$*(#%&@*&! stephen ‘fat boy’ harper.
Screw iran. Bomb ottawa!
another tough talking
republican chickenhawk
I’d like to find out how
this one evaded the draft
heh…
Forgive me if this has already been covered but from what I can gather, Stark apologized on the floor this morning.
Matthews made Joshua Muravchik look like the ass he is. And if you notice at the end of the segment, Matthews clearly reiterates they’re “experts” with a sly grin.
Josh, come prepared to bullshit next time.
pissed off patricia @ 39:
Yes….sad but true…see my comments @ # 30 above…
PurplePatriot @ 28:
The only way Americans will turn off American Idol is if the show is preempted with a message that 300 inbound Russian missiles are heading our way. And even then they’d probably just stare at the screen like zombies thinking it was a commercial for a new TV show. “Wow, whens that on! Neat!”
If the US attacks Iran, other nations are prepared to impose serious consequences on the United States. The US — when it expands illegal warfare into Iraq — is acting like Japan when it attacked Pearl Harbor. After WWII, the Japanese failed in their argument that they were attempting to “stop” US efforts to block the Japanese expansion; similarly, the US has no legal foundation when it argues it is attempting to “block” Iran from defending itself against an expanded illegal war in iraq.
The Vice President and President have been linked with war crimes. Congress needs to impeach. Without impeachment, prosecutions of the President and Vice — while they remain in office — is an option.
If the US civil leadership in Congress and the legal community refuses to impose legal consequences on either the President or Vice President through either impeachment or prosecution, what options are there to lawfully punish the President and Vice President for illegal warfare?
1. Other nations may use lawful options to punish the American leadership.
2. War criminals — when they lead a nation — put their nation at risk. Other nations have the legal authority under Geneva to attack the US military, command and control, and other war-supporting infrastructure.
3. State officials have a duty to end unlawful support for the President and VP. This means ending all contracts, support, and assistance to the illegal war: Ending contracts, removing services, and prosecuting those who attempt to support an illegal war in Iraq and Iran.
This is something everyone should read!!!!
http://www.talk2action.org/
I am really getting fucking tired of these warhawks clamoring for war!!!
These assholes need to be stopped! It’s gettin to the point to where I’m ready to start thinkin “by any means necesary”… surely I’m not alone…
My thoughts are very dark and very coarse. This fool wants more carnage, does he? It’s past time to let the creeps get away with calling for mass killing and to demand that they either put up or shut up. You want to bomb Iran? Fine, here’s the ordinance. And here’s a rifle. If you need a ride to the border, we’ll get Bill Kristol to drive you there. Go, and send us a g-d– postcard.
How many more young men and women have to die or get mutilated to satisfy the Neocons sickening need for blood and violence (perpetrated and suffered by people of classes lower than their own, of course)?
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(One more time. More artistic flavor.)
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(Thank you very much, folks.)
(Thanks, Dean.)
(Yea {:-(
Whether Iran would sit by and not defend themselves is a dumb question that is not borne out by history at all: everybody defends themselves. The bigger question is whether Saudi Arabia would sit there and let Iran take it.
I watched this yesterday and while Muravchik might be a ‘prolific’ writer he was totally unprepared. He couldn’t make the argument about why it was imperative w