Iowa waitress sets the media straight
By Steve Benen Thursday Nov 08, 2007 4:50pmIt’s hard to say for sure when the “silly season” started in the media’s coverage of the presidential campaign. If there was a “serious season,” it was exceedingly short. I’m afraid I missed it.
After yesterday's flap over Hillary Clinton's tip at an Iowa diner, a waitress tried to set campaign reporters straight: "You people are really nuts."
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according to somebody from Ill.....(in the comments on Carpetbagger)Maid rights policy is ...no tips.....but this was a stupid thing to let happen....Somebody should of dropped a tip ..more fuel for Billo.
Leaving a tip is much more important than say: Torture or the war in Iraq. Who's "out of touch?"
manufacturing opinion in real time! fabricating a reality.
Kudos to you Ms. Anita Esterday, yea, 'really nuts' pretty much sums it up about the MSM... You tell it honey.............JD
This nation has lost it's damn mind. We are going to reap just what we have sown. The U.S. Homeland is in for hard times. I'd stock up on canned goods.
fucking nuts does not cover the half of it. if they mis-print or intentionally mis-print something about one of the dems, they don't admit the mistake or correct it in the middle of an inconsequential part of the paper in small print. but, if they print on of the gop's many blantant lies, they do not correct it and then try to turn it against the dems. there is a very bias slant to the reichwing which most of the papers and many tv news stations foster. the fascist bullshit is in full swing thru the gutter.
In the follow-up this morning, the reporter was asked if he should have checked his facts with the Clinton campaign and the restaurant management before airing his story. He said he probably should have but his "story" was more important than some fact checking. And NPR is the responsible news station!
Don't expect the waitress to be invited on Fox Pravda to air her grievances. I'm just waiting for "pot calling kettle black" Mann Coulter to call her a harpie and accuse her of milking publicity.
Meanwhile, oil spill in San Francisco Bay. Death by Oil
Experts: Oil spill is threat to wildlife
AP - 33 minutes ago
SAN FRANCISCO - Assessment and recovery teams hit the skies, waters and beaches Friday trying to contain the damage from a 58,000-gallon oil spill that has stained some of Northern California's coastline.
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See, impeachment and ending the war are not "serious" topics that "serious" candidates should talk about.
"Serious, important" candidates have weighter issues to discuss, like flag lapels, hand gestures during the national anthem, haircuts and tipping habits
Huh. The waitress blabs to the media that a presidential candidate didn't tip her, then later wonders what the commotion was about? Then she backpedals and wonders why the press doesn't cover more important things. Disingenuous, IMO.
JasonS @ 10:
And making sure the Bush controlled MSM keeps this stuff out of the public view.
House passes $80 billion tax relief bill AP - 14 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - House Democrats on Friday pushed through an $80 billion bill to block the spread of a dreaded tax on middle-income people. The White House and Republicans, protesting tax increases in the bill affecting mainly investment fund managers, maintained that it would never become law.
Something in this country is extremely wrong when an item like this get report by the MSM but articles of impeachment against the Vice President are ignored by these bastard of the "4 estate"!!!!
It isn't just politicans that need replaced to clean up this country.
I can see it now... the presidential debates next year will go something like this: "So candidate X, what do you think about Britney's vagina?"
Truth has to come from real people.
Anita Esterday said what the good-for-nothing candidates don't say.
The media is corrupt. The reporters are grubbing for money and status and think that by rubbing elbows
with the rich and powerful they will become one of them. That is their ambition.
In the meanwhile, as Ms. Esterday pointed out, kids are dying every day in Iraq. People are losing their homes.
And the media would rather not talk about it.
This reminds me of the "Emperor's New Clothes" when somebody real calls out the truth to a bunch of hypotized sycophants like our media.
Could it be that the manager was going to pocket the tip until the R-W quasi-newsies picked up the story.
BTW Muchas Gracias to the waitress for the well deserved dope slap to the "Press".
LA confidential;
Yes.. Pretty much There goes the neighborhood for the time being.. Definitely no swimming, surfing or watersports of any kind up here for awhile..... And a lot dead and dying sea critters and fowl to boot... Pretty heartbreaking really and already the circular finger pointing and alibies machine is cranking up.
And I doubt we'll get much help from the Terminator or Chimpy either..... Our recently re-elected boy mayor had better have his shit together now..... JD
Tipgate? My god. "You people really are nuts." ;)
This is a sad commentary on our present state of affairs. First, the media goes gaga over a non issue instead of reporting real news. Secondly, the average citizen can be a better pundit than the millionaire morons on TV. Notice the town hall meetings with candidates and you will hear superior questions from the average Joe than the staged debates with Russert, Matthews and the other unprofessional journalists. Of course, Bush's town hall meetings are fake, they don't count.
Blue Buddha @ 14:
This is on a different level, but I was watching a tennis match featuring Maria Sharapova. It was an intense match.
Sharapova won. The reporter interviewing her asked her what she thought of the "cute ballboys". Sharapova was stunned.
Then she replied that she was focused on that "yellow tennis ball". Reporters in all aspects of media have the attention span of a flea.
They run from reality and intensity.
Jack Damage @ 17:
Inexcusable. I can't even look at the pictures without getting sick to my stomach.
Piren @ 11:
If this woman wasn't a Republican would she be saying this?
Most waitresses I know, and I know quite a few, would consider not leaving a tip the action of an asshole and to pretend that 'It's no big deal...' means....
Someone is lying.
LA Confidntial@21;
I know what you mean L.A.... I know what you mean......JD
If I had donated $20 of my hard-earned dollars to the HRC campaign, I'd be super-pissed to hear that they dropped a $100 cash tip on a $170 check. Just like I was super-pissed when I heard that John Edwards took my $20 and added it to everybody else's $380 and got a haircut. Campaign finance sucks.
L.A. Confidential @ 21:
yeah pretty ugly.......it's a damn tragedy....a container ship hit the Bay Bridge...yesterday......at least that's the local news....when that bay drains ..it really drains.don't know if it'll get down here in Monterey.
But if I lived in Half Moon Bay...I'd be worried.....so much for Mavericks this year.
Ken Lays Website
Must be enjoying the beach wherever he's hiding out these days.
http://www.kenlayinfo.com/public/pag1.aspx
It is totally stupid - - so, if Drudge made such a big deal out of it, I wanna know why he isn't going after the Maid-Rite manager to find out why the $100 tip wasn't turned over to the two servers? Man, what a scumbag, taking tip money and keeping it instead of passing it on to the servers...
www.theskinofmyteeth.com
David B.
Anthology @ 20:
We used to make fun of all those comm and journalism majors back when I was in college. At least, at some point journalism used to be a respected profession. Alas, image won over substance...
At some point, people need to act like Sarkozy and walk away when someone asks something really, really, really fucking stupid. The whole PC nonsense in this country, means that we have to put up with mediocrity and try to do so with a smiling face, god forbid some stupid jag off gets his or her feelings hurt.
One could go on TV and point out the obvious: "The president is a fucking idiot, and this fucking war is a disgrace and a a lie." And most pundits won't address the truth: the fact that our current president is not really that bright and that the war that is draining our treasury and killing countless innocent civilians was based on lies. Both of which are FACTS. But rather the whole machine will get all their collective panties twisted over the fact that the word "fuck" was used. Oh, my god! He used "fuck" how dare he/she?
In this society all seems geared towards protecting those precious suburbanite youngsters, god forbid that they get to see a nipple or heard the word fuck. Those precious tadpole jagoffs in their McMansion, who are dumber than rocks, have the social conscience of a brick, and who spent all their lives hating their parents, mentally terrorizing those who they don't like, who do more drugs than their parents, and who fuck anything that walks. Those precious minds are supposed to be the shit we are to protect at all costs... fuck the lot of them, useless wimps.I hope the economy collapses, just so I get to see the day that some of those pricks get to work for pennies for a Mexican, or they get to do the bed of some Chinese overlord.
When all you can throw are softballs, it means that as a whole your bullpen will be really fucking mediocre when going to play the big leagues. Bunch of fucking wimps. The whole country is going down the drain in a hand basket, and they waste time on whether or not someone left a fucking tip? Is this what we have devolved down to?
A.Citizen @ 22:
My point exactly. The waitress didn't correct the media, the Clinton camp and her manager did. If Clinton had neglected to leave a tip, it would have indicated that she was out of touch with the average working American. It wouldn't cause me to change my vote (though I'm not voting for Clinton anyway), put it would have given me pause. I don't consider this waitress the hero she's being made out to be.
I'm sure I'll get an email from my right wing brother-in-law over this. Then again, it's fun to set the record straight with him.
Speaking of the silly party, you know someone had to post this....
'ELECTION NIGHT SPECIAL'
Cut to linkman sitting at desk.
Linkman (very excited): Hello and welcome to 'Election Night Special'. There's great excitement here as we should be getting the first results through any minute now. We don't know where it'll be from...it might be Leicester or from Luton. The polling's been quite heavy in both areas... oh, wait a moment...I'm just getting...I'm just getting a loud buzzing noise in my left ear. Excuse me a moment. (he bangs ear and knocks a large bee out) Uuggh! (cheering from crowd). Anyway, let's go straight over to James Gilbert at Leicester.
Voice Over: Well it's a straight fight here at Leicester...On the left of the Returning Officer you can see Arthur Smith, the Sensible candidate and his agent, and on the other side is the silly candidate Jethro Walrustitty with his agent and his wife.
Officer: Here is the result for Leicester. Arthur J. Smith...
Voice Over: Sensible Party
Officer: 30,612...Jethro Q. Walrustitty...
Voice Over: Silly Party
Officer: 32,108.
Linkman (even more excited): Well, there's the first result and the Silly Party has held Leicester. What do you make of that, Norman?
Norman: Well, this is largely as I predicted, except that the Silly Party won. I think this is largely due to the number of votes cast. Gerald?
Gerald: Well there's a swing here to the Silly Party...but how big a swing I'm not going to tell you.
George Well, if I may...I think the interesting thing here is the big swing to the Silly Party and of course the very large swing back to the Sensible Party...and a tendency to wobble up and down in the middle because the screw's loose.
Alphonse No, I'm afraid I can't think of anything.
Eric I can't add anything to that. Colin?
Colin: Can I butt in at this point and say this is in fact the very first time I've appeared on television.
Linkman: No, no we haven't time, because we're just going straight over to Luton.
Voice Over: Here at Luton it's a three-cornered fight between Alan Jones - Sensible Party, in the middle, Tarquin Fin- tim- lim- bim- whin- bim- lim- bus- stop- F'tang- F'tang- Olè- Biscuitbarrel - Silly Party, and Kevin Phillips-Bong, the Slightly Silly candidate.
Officer: Alan Jones...
Voice Over: On the left, Sensible Party
Officer: 9,112... Kevin Phillips-Bong...
Voice Over: On the right, Slightly Silly.
Officer: Nought...Tarquin Fin- tim- lin- bin- whin- bim- lin- bus- stop- F'tang- F'tang- Olé- Biscuitbarrel...
Voice Over: Silly.
Officer: 12,441.
Voice Over: And so the Silly Party has taken Luton.
Linkman: A gain for the Silly Party at Luton. The first gain of the election, Norman?
Norman Well this is a highly significant result. Luton, normally a very sensible constituency with a high proportion of people who aren't a bit silly, has gone completely ga-ga.
Linkman: Do we have the swing at Luton?
Gerald: Well, I've worked out the swing, but it's a secret.
Linkman: Er, well, ah, there...there isn't the swing, how about a swong?
Norman: Well, I've got the swong here in this box and it's looking fine. I can see through the breathing holes that it's eating up peanuts at the rate of knots.
Linkman: And how about the swang?
Alphonse: Well, it's 29% up over six hundred feet but it's a little bit soft around the edges about...
Linkman: What do you make of the nylon dot cardigan and plastic mule rest?
Voice (off): There's no such thing.
Linkman: Thank you, Spike.
Norman: Can I just come in here and say that the swong has choked itself to death.
George: Well, the election's really beginning to hot up now.
Eric: I can't add anything to that.
Colin: Can I just add at this point that this is in fact the second time I've ever been on television?
Linkman: I'm sorry, Sasha, we're just about to get another result.
Voice Over: Hello, from Harpenden. This is a key seat because in addition to the official Silly candidate there is an independent Very Silly candidate, who may split the silly vote.
Officer: Mrs Elsie Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
Voice Over: Silly.
Officer: 26,317... James Walker...
Voice Over: Sensible.
Officer: 26,318.
Voice Over: That was close.
Officer: Malcolm Peter Brian Telescope Adrian Umbrella Stand Jasper Wednesday (pops mouth twice) Stoatgobbler John Raw Vegetable (sound effect of horse whinnying) Arthur Norman Michael (blows squeker) Featherstone Smith (blows whistle) Northgot Edwards Harris (fires pistol, which goes 'whoop') Mason (chuff-chuff-chuff) Frampton Jones Fruitbat Gilbert (sings) 'We'll keep a welcome in the' (three shots, stops singing) Williams If I Could Walk That Way Jenkin (squeker) Tiger-draws Pratt Thompson (sings) 'Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head' Darcy Carter (horn) Pussycat 'Don't Sleep In The Subway' Barton Mannering (hoot, 'whoop') Smith.
Voice Over: Very Silly.
Officer: Two.
Voice Over: Well there you have it. A Sensible gain at Driffield.
(Back to the studio.)
Linkman: Norman
Norman: Well, I've just heard from Luton that my auntie's ill, er, possibly, possibly gastro-enteritis - Gerald.
Gerald: Er, well, if this were repeated over the whole country it's probably be very messy. Colin.
Colin: Can I just butt in and say here that it's probably the last time I shall ever appear on television.
Linkman: No I'm afraid you can't, we haven't got time. Just to bring you up to date with a few results, er, that you may have missed. Engelbert Humperdinck has taken Barrow-in-Furness, that's a gain from Ann Haydon-Jones and her husband Pip. Arthur Negus has held Bristols. That's not a result, that's a bit of gossip. Er...Mary Whitehouse has just taken umbrage. Could it be a bit of trouble there. And apparently Wales is not swinging at all. No surprise there. And...Monty Python has held the credits.
i don't think i've ever seen Hillary carry a purse or wallet anywhere. I'm sure someone was to leave a tip, it just did'nt happen. I can't see any canidate (rep or dem) paying their own check, they have "people" that are to do it for them after the canidate leaves the building.
i'm sure fox, rush, oreilly, hannity, drudge...etc will make a huge deal out if it. not that any of them would ever leave a tip ... "gee, they get paid to serve me don't they. they should thank ME for allowing them to serve me".
A.Citizen @ 22:
No, I don't think this woman is a Republican(she claims her hours at her primary job at a nursing home were cut by a manager who's "not a Clinton fan"- I read that as "ditto-head"), she's just a hard workin' woman who's angry because she either got stiffed by customer(and a customer who used her as political pulp on the stump), or scammed by a co-worker.
Some of ya might not get it, but whether there's a war goin' on or not, people gotta make ends meet. Every fuckin' dollar counts. Sometimes ya work yer ass off to satisfy a customer, do an excellent job and get $0.00 in return. And as bad as it feels to dig down into empty pockets, what's worse is that feelin' that you've been totally disrespected. It's America, people, where all are equal and should be valued as such, not some fuckin' rigidly stratified class culture, where the have-much compensate the have-little with a pat on the head.
I've been in Ms. Esterday's shoes- ya can't help but get pissed and chirp about it. And her comments in the wake of the original story ring of the embarassment ya feel, because some people think yer beggin', when yer actually pointin' out that ya got scewed over royally.
So lay the fuck off the woman- and don't ferget to tip yer wait-staff, bartenders, pizza delivery people & taxi drivers(who both really do, btw, put their lives on the line to get ya yer food or deliver ya to yer destination) etc., etc., etc...
Piren @ 29:
Maybe the waitress is not only a shitty person, but maybe she also provided shitty service. It would have been a hoot if Hillary had came out and say, "oh, I did not forget to leave a tip... the service was horrible." It wouldn't be the first time I have left w/o a tip when having to put up with bad service. I mean, the whole definition of "tip" revolves around the optional part. I thought GOPers would understand it them being all for free market and all. I find it funny when these knuckle draggers come out of the woodwork trying to care for the common worker, talk about being out of touch.
Not that I give a rat's ass about Hillary... As I would not get a tip from her either if I were to be her waiter, mostly because I would take the opportunity to speak my mind to her. LOL.
Dr. Who @ 34:
If shitty service was the case, why would Clinton use her conversation with the waitress on the political stump on more than one occasion?
left of center @ 32:
As a person who had to wait on people at some point in his life (it was college, and I needed the money LOL)... it was my experience that some of the really moneyed stuck up holier than thou types where the first ones to expect first class service, but the least willing to pay for it. I am willing to bet that Limbaugh et al are crappy tippers...
ohismith @ 24:
You do realize that when someone like Clinton or Edwards walks into establishments, as exemplified here, all normal business comes to a standstill, right? Which means that the workin' folk don't have other customers who can toss in a tip.
It's kinda like if you were waitin' 10 4-top tables and all were occupied by 1 person each,all sippin' a cup of coffee, readin' the newspaper fer 2 hours. And each one leavin' one thin slice of nothin' as a gratuity.
Andy K @ 35:
I thought that incident happened yesterday?
Andy K @ 37:
Do you also realize that tips like respect is earned and not granted?
Dr. Who @ 36:
I once had a woman tell me, "Hard work and prayer, and the Lord will provide the rest."
Dr. Who @ 38:
It was on NPR yesterday. The visit to Made-Right (sp?) happened on October 8th.
Andy@ 39 - Touchy, touchy. Most of us have been there, done that, lived hand to mouth. Depending on tips to pay the bills is a sucky way to have to live. My point is, the waitress had to have known the firestorm her comments would cause and how they would sit with with servers all over the country. Then she backpedals and calls the media "nuts." Something is not quite right here.
ohismith @ 24:
Apparently you don't understand the post. It's about how ridiculous it is that the media spends so much wasted time on a tip, whether it was given or not, or a haircut and not on the real problems of this country that affects us all. Judging by your post I find it hard to believe that you give money to any Democratic candidate.
Andy K @ 40:
I had plenty of people either trying to not pay after I busted my chops, and I heard that line a couple of times. I had no problem reminding them how I provided the hard work, and luckily the lord provided me with two very nice fists to make sure those who take his name in vain pay for their service.
At the same time, having waited --albeit briefly, as I held a number of shitty jobs as a student, and it was never my plan to be stuck in a shitty job thus me staying in school -- I have no problem not paying for shitty and sometimes non existent service.
Dr. Who @ 39:
Dude- I got nothin' but compliments from my customers when I deliverd pizzas. Many call backs complimentin' me. One time I delivered a $1500 order(and, yes, I was heavily involved in makin' the order). For three hours I paid attention to nothin' but that customer and that order. Everything was hot and on time, I went above and beyond the call to get the right pies to the right places at the location, I got a little "thank you" and....minimum wage fer three hours while the other 3 drivers did the same-old-same-old and had all racked up about $25 in tips in the same timeframe.
And that's only one of many similar stories I could tell ya. People can be fuckin' assholes. Women- flashin' yer boobs don't pay the rent. Guys- I don't drink and can't trade beer fer groceries. Hillary- if yer gonna have a staffer leave a tip fer yer waitress, let the waitress know! That way, if ya did leave one, the waitress can find out who tried to pocket her gas bill money!
pizzas?........well...I used to wash dishes......a long long time ago...........(in the kitchen where the food was..don'tchaknow)........plus it was warm in the winter....never did get any tips.
Andy K @ 37:
Yes, the normal business may come to a standstill for the night, but the free advertising is priceless. There is a great potential for increased business because of the name recognition. Except maybe if one of the waitstaff very publicly dumps on a very well-known customer. I certainly wouldn't visit that establishment - I'd be afraid of rubbing the waitress the wrong way. It's one thing to grouse with your friends and coworkers about poor service, it's another thing to publically dis a customer.
Bananaphone @ 31:
One of my all time favorite MP sketches.
Piren @47 - make that poor tipping, not poor service. Trying to watch countdown, make dinner and type at the same time.
They forgot Hillary's cleavage.
Piren @ 42:
Here's a link to NPR. Listen to the clip. It's 8:56 long. They talk about the tip fer 18 seconds.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16099751
And make sure to listen to it in the context of her other comments. She didn't sound angry- and well she should've- but hurt and sad.
Now maybe it was an edited hatchet job- the story doesn't make either Clinton or Obama sound very good. But I put that on the producer at NPR, not the put-upon woman workin' a few minimum wage jobs!
Andy K @ 45:
just shows it dont pay to be a nice guy!
Piren @ 47:
The free advertisin' cuts both ways. In a purple state like Iowa I'm sure that as many people will boycott Maid-Rite as will flock to it.
And, again, she might have dissed a customer, but, again that customer(one with ties to Wal Mart, at that, ahem) used the waitress ass grist fer the mill. And, AGAIN, the waitress believes she lost valuable hours at another job because of her discussion with Clinton. Context.
"as grist". Yipes!
Andy K @ 52
"And, again, she might have dissed a customer, but, again that customer(one with ties to Wal Mart, at that, ahem) used the waitress ass grist fer the mill. And, AGAIN, the waitress believes she lost valuable hours at another job because of her discussion with Clinton. Context."
How is losing hours at her second job Clinton's fault? If that was the case, sounds like the waitress has ground for litigation. I am no fan of Clinton -I too am bothered by Clinton's ties to Walmart, defense and HMOs. I listened to the NPR interview (thanks for the link).
"I don't think she understood at all what I was saying"
"Nobody got a tip."
"I was like, do you guys really live in the real world?"
I worked in food service in college, and it was hard, exhausting work for little money. No matter what, I never would have dreamed of dissing a customer to the press. I know you feel compelled to protect food service workers, Andy, and I respect that. However, If I was her boss, I would have disciplined her for treating a customer so shabbily, regardless of the circumstances (including "grist for the mill"). However, that would be impossible considering she's such a media darling now.
Piren @ 55('cause the blockquote thing is gettin' too crazy)-
How is losing hours at her second job Clinton’s fault?
Well, ya probably got the gist of the story- how these people's lives are effected by that "brush" with political candidates...I don't think Ms. Esterday asked to be used as a soundbite, rather that the campaign was showin' how they "care" about workin' folks. How they "care" so much that they talk about meetin' the folks where they work....
But even if Clinton didn't drop Esterday's name, reporters track down things like this. They ask the manager at Maid-Rite who it was that waited on the Senator. It gets on TV, radio, in print that Ms. Esterday was the woman to whom Clinton was talkin' 'bout. Esterday never did anything but go to work, but now she's the unofficial mascot of a political campaign. Maybe not where you or I live, but in Iowa...and, like all things political, official or not, there is a backlash against Ms. Esterday. Is it fair? No. Actionable in court? Maybe. But right now it sucks to be Ms. Esterday. And why is that? Because Hillary decided she needed to connect with real workin' people in the real world, whether those people wanted to talk to her or not- to use them as political tools.
Not sayin' Clinton's alone in doin' this- they almost all do. Hopefully candidates will have learned a lesson from this.
Oh, yeah: here's a link to the follow-up story:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16143435
Clinton's story still sounds hinky. Sounds like their playin' CYA games here.
There are more angles and curves to this story than on Pamela Anderson. The bottom line is, the press made the tip/no tip into a major media event. I hope the candidates learned something from this, too, but I doubt it. Clinton used a waitress as a photo op/soundbite, waitress ran her mouth about her hard life (not saying she doesn't have a hard life, she does, but she comes off as a whiner) and BLAMMO we have liftoff! Sad state of affairs, American politics.
msm. nuts.
it doesn't get any truer.
tyree-
Thanks! Gotta say, though, that I had a lot of good regular customers. Sometimes the kids would answer the door and say, "Mom! It's Andy!" without lookin' at my name tag, and mom would tell me how how they always liked it when I delivered...Yeah, that was cool...
Pirren-
Yeah, the media overdid the whole thing. But I still don't think she was "whinin'". Unless ya consider stuff like askin' fer fair compensation, health care and a roof over the head whinin'. In which case all unions could be considered whiners.
I heard the story on npr this morning and I thought they were beyond stupid and petty to even stoop to talking about it. Glad to see the waitress thought so too.
the Drudgeies love their lazy Inside Edition "news"
It takes a goddamned waitress in Iowa to add a shred of lucidity to an otherwise INSANE political landscape. I say, nix the current candidates and make that waitress the president.
These idiotic "journalists" spend too much of their time looking for mistakes made by the Democrats.
However, when the republicans lie through their teeth, they seem to miss it, or just brush over it.
Where is the fair news reporting? Are these hacks so far up the butt of this administration that they are blind to the truth?
These "so called" reporters are trying to shape the news for us. They really believe that we will swallow everything they say.
Well the vast majority of us will not take your word. We do our own research and come to our own conclusion.
Most of the "journalists" are exactly what Anita said "NUTS". Nuts for thinking that we 1) listen to them and 2) that we take them for their word.
Now, most journalists won't think about questioning the republican candidates on anything that they say. Yes, Rudy has said some really stupid things. But, no one brings them to light. This is a sorry day for journalists.
They all stand in the same pig sty as Jeff Gannon. There are not many that have distinguished themselves among the others.
And that is pretty sad.
I LOVE YOU ANITA ESTERDAY!!
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Sad to say Kos has shot his mouth off about this before all the facts are in. I think the guy needs a holiday-- his recent illness suggests he's overworking himself.
well hell the Bush's have been stiffing the waitresses at the Chat N Chew in Kennebunkport for years
The insanity of the ancient Roman Elite may have been attributable to lead plumbing. I wonder what history will have to say about ours?
The Clinton campaign is keeping this one alive by their inept response.
So we have a "he said/she said" situation here. Hmm...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16143435
me @ 65:
Kos hates Hillary and attacks her every chance he gets. They act like Drudge over there when it comes to Hillary. I am fast losing interest in their blog, becoming very bored with the attitude there. But, it is their blog and I can do the same thing as I do with Fox, change the channel, or in this case, the computer.
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