Brian Williams Hearts Rudy Giuliani
By Nicole Belle Tuesday Nov 13, 2007 8:33am
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Eric Boehlert at Media Matters:
Searching for more proof that celebrity Beltway journalists enjoy warm, friendly relations with Republican presidential hopefuls? Look no further than last week's cozy sit-down between NBC News anchor Brian Williams and GOP front-runner Rudy Giuliani.[..]
I watched the Giuliani interview last week and was busy taking notes when I wasn't picking my jaw up off the floor. That was partly because of the forced, old-friend vibe that permeated the interview, but mostly because Williams never asked Giuliani a single uncomfortable question. The treatment stood in stark contrast to the relentless and often factually challenged grilling Williams and his NBC News colleague Tim Russert unleashed on the Democratic front-runner at the Philadelphia debate two weeks ago. Not to mention the type of loaded, contentious questions Williams posed to Democrats when he moderated their debate (solo) in South Carolina in April.
Sitting down with Giuliani though, Williams suddenly lost his edge and was content with lobbing vague questions, refraining from meaningful follow-ups, and allowing Giuliani to attack Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton at length for being on "the defensive" in fighting the war on terror and for promoting "higher taxes for the whole country."[..]
Williams, a regular Rush Limbaugh listener, had 30 minutes to ask the candidate any questions he wanted. It's instructive to examine the questions Williams did, and did not ask, Giuliani.
Williams' first topic of discussion was about baseball, specifically why Giuliani, as a lifelong New York Yankees fan, would publicly announce, while campaigning in New England, that he was going to root for the Yankees' bitter rivals, the Boston Red Sox, in the World Series. But the way Williams raised the topic made it plain that he thought the issue was silly, and the query served more as an icebreaker than a serious question about perhaps the campaign season's most blatant bout of pandering. And that's why Giuliani responded to Williams' soft question with a hearty laugh.
How did Williams signal the trivial intent of the question? He began the query with a serious tone and expression by referring to a "tragic day for most New Yorkers," but then quickly revealed that the "tragic day" was in reference to the fact that former New York Yankees skipper Joe Torre had just accepted a job with the Los Angeles Dodgers. (That segued into the Yankees/Red Sox question.)
Get it?! The "tragic day" wasn't a reference to the terrorist attacks of September 11, because Williams flipped the script and turned it into a baseball question. And that's what made Giuliani laugh. Priceless.
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I don't understand why some folks are so hot about Rudy.....all he did was walk around with a dust mask and point....at this and that...His political record is awful.
FYI this video is priceless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdjzUOLqhNQ
mudshark @ 1:
Never forget that people are DEEPLY stupid. We, the American people, almost elected George W. Bush twice.
"Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of the population is stupider."
--George Carlin
Rudy was the only one who wasn't in hiding the day of 9-11. I guess that's his claim to fame. Bush was flying around and cheney was wherever cheney was. Just because Rudy was on the street, I guess that makes him a "hero". As I recall there were a lot of people on the street in NYC that day and they were trying to help and save lives. Seems to me they come much closer to hero status than some guy doing exactly what mudshark says in comment number one.
Thanks for the reminder Mudshark. Depressing, but warranted.
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Wow. Let;s get bent out of shape over a fucking baseball question. Jesus christ. You really think Brian Williams likes Rudi as a president just because he asks him a few baseball questions? C&L, you guys are turning into a gossip site.
Cheney was underneath Weather Mountain in Virginia. There's a big compound there, has been for years. I stayed at a cabin there a few months ago and the woman who lived in a nearby property told me all kinds of crazy stories about the post 9/11 goings on. Weather Mountain was apparently the "undisclosed location".
Rudi sucks. Unfortunately, Hillary is Rudi's best friend right now. If Hillary gets nominated, say hello to 4 more years of republican faith-based politics
9-11, baseball, and apple pie , that's what Guiliani is made of . Hahahaha! Oh hilarious! Get a room fuckers.
Guiliani is a habitual liar and the MSM is ignoring the Kerik story. Yet, right now as we speak MSNBC is still talking about Clinton's tip incident. The MSM wants a president that will create news worthy stories like war, death, scandal ,etc. Guiliani will keep them in business.
StirFry,
It's not just MSNMBC. Haven't you realized that every major cable news network is absolute garbage, less MSNBC at 8:00 PM?
I never watch network news. For some reason I had the impression Williams was a journalist. My mistake. Rudy is a walking headline, and baseball is it? Jackass.
For the rest of the country, it would be easier to push a camel through the eye of a needle than find a New York City resident that has fond memories of Giuliani.
Fruity Giuliani behaved about as bravely as the average homeless New Yorker. Walked around and jibber-jabbered with a mug full of soot.
Hardly heroic in my book, but my standards are higher than the average Americans.
-GSD
Does Keith Olbermann ask "tough questions" when he has Democrat Pols on his show? No. So shut the fuck up candyass.
Rudi is a douche. Brian Williams is a talking head. Who gives a shit? This is a non-subject and C&L is spinning it as Brian Williams is Rudi's secret lover. C&L, stick to what you're good at and leave the gossip shit to other blog sites
Forget it. It's MSM Chinatown.
Hooks @ 6:
Follow the link in the article to how Williams hearts Lush Rimbaugh. It's pretty telling.
I did. It's still a stretch. Last I heard, Brian Williams was a democrat. Regardless, this interview didn't help or hurt Rudi. It was a non-interview. I'm sure he will be interviewed by others who like him and some who don't.
What can we expect from celebrity pundits/news readers with 6 or 7 figure salaries? They prefer the status quo to insure their pampered and priviledged postions. Whenever Democrats are interviewed by the likes of Williams, Russert, Matthews, et al they should challang them and expose them for the shills they are. Democrats have to realize that it's a stacked deck and to try and play nice with these tainted media hypocrites is a losing strategy.
I think what we are going to find about Rudy is that he likes himself a great deal more than the public likes him. He is the kinda guy that the more you know, the more you do not like him. I think we refer to this as a false sense of self or an inflated ego. As for Brain Williams, it has been known for a long time that he is a right-wing tool. He is part of the 25%ers who still support this criminal party.
30 minutes to ask a presidential candidate any question - and we lead off with baseball followed by "what does Washington DC feel like to you" followed by Ronnie Raygun and more baseball. Nice job throwing fluff balls, Brian.
I wonder if Rudy would grant Keith a thirty minute interview? I'm guessing he wouldn't.
They said on one of the morning cable shows this morning that Rudy would easily win in NY in the repub primaries. I'm wondering if that's true? I guess New Yorkers would see him as the lesser of the evils.
Also, notice that Giuliani has DISMAL ratings in New York. DISMAL. Yet the lamestream media tells us that Hillary Clinton is a "polarizing" figure.
Funny stuff.
-GSD
I guess my point is I'm just so sick and tired of democrats whining and bitching about every little fucking thing. I am the furthest thing from a republican, but the dems have been just as despicable the past 4 years. From not contesting the new attorney general to bullshitting the voters into believing the Iraq war would change, to buying into the Iran debacle, to not publicly ousting Bush's fuck up in trusting Pakistan.
Brian Williams has been hired by Larry Flynt productions to be Assistant to the Head Fluffer.
-GSD
How to spot a repug troll.
Rule #1
Hooks @ 22:
Billo and Howie Kurtz make it out like NBC is just Brian Williams taking bong hits and trading his favorite quotes from the Communist Manifesto with Michael Moore, Hugo Chavez and some French guy. But instead, we get Williams fellating Mr. Waterboard with his favorite softball (or in this case, baseball) questions. I'm not so sure the pinko attribution to NBC is apt, do you?
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I can't take seriously ANYONE with a lithp. Anyone in the public eye should learn how to thpeak properly.
Brain is going to have a real hard time giving these soft ball anti-journalistic interviews when Ghouliani gets elected, a police state is declared, & he's handing upside down from a secret prison in Kansas,...
Mainstream Media across the spectrum is holding down all the horrible corruption with Rudy. It is pretty easy for them to do. Even after decades of corruption Rudy’s is up to his eyeballs, and it’s starting leak out. Just as Bush and Company has been kept away by the Mainstream Media about their close family connections, business and political, to the Bin Laden family is one of the ironic and probably the most inverted political explosions that could ever happen to the Republican Party.
Actually, the terrorist and Islamic extremist that closely are associated with Bush, are the political situation the world now endures will never be tamed without a complete Bush and Company exposure. Especially the connection to the profiteering and political connections is the real terror to the Republican Party has. Worse its existence.
Hooks @ 22:
Both parties guilty of stepping up to the plate on the Impeachment of Bush, Cheney or lower level Bush administration officials. The list is long they could take their pick.
Intelligence snowjobs that have resulted in hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths injuries and millions displaced are not enough for them to start impeachment proceedings.
Williams has stated several times that he is a fan of Rush Limbaugh's. That should disqualify him from doing the NBC Nightly News right there.
Kathleen @ 31:
Sorry. Both parties are guilty of NOT stepping up to the Impeachment plate
Shocking!!
Jesus fucking christ, 9/11 truly is a goddamn country club joke to these pampered, rich, cutesy-wootsy little pieces of filth.
It is to HURL.
Heathwood @ 32:
Huh??? Uh no....It's a prerequisite.
Hooks @ 6:
Hey, Hooks -
Maybe Williams should have asked him about why he always uses 9/11 as his mantra. Open up with a volley like that and just keep 'em coming. Ask about Kerik. Ask about all the mis-statements he's made during his campaign. Grill the bastard.
The question about baseball lets you know that the entire interview is a waste of time, Brian Williams doing his metaphorical best to give Rudy a blowjob.
Maybe low-cost, low-quality, high-availability food, drink, and entertainment has become the sole concern of the American People.
Hooks @ 13:
The point here is this -
If this sort of thing is starting NOW, then chances are it will only get worse
Hooks @ 16:
A "non-interview". WTF??? The guy is running for POTUS, for Christ sake. There are no "non interviews" now. This was a gift of love from corporate America to their chosen one on the Right. And give me a break with that "...some that like him some that don't." crap. Real journalism is not "liking" or "not liking" anyone. You've got to go for the jugular, ask the hard questions at lease a few times during every interview.
That...is the f*cking job.
Humanizing Rudy
Brian Williams at the Dem So. Carolina debate: asking Biden, 'if the Dems lose the election in '08, are they on the way to extinction?'
Asked maybe 100 days after an election in which not a single Democrat incumbent lost a race for House, Senate or governor, a mindblowingly unprecedented event. And with the president at 30% and the veep at 10.
Just let ANY asshole try and tell you the media's not in the GOP tank after that q.
It's not the candidates who need grilling in a public forum, it's Williams, Russert and friends.
The "interview" that Brian Williams provided helps to promote the same kind of attitude that was attributed to Bush in 2000 and even in 2004: a guy you wanted to have a beer with. Me? Bush is the kind of guy I want to throw a beer ON.
Not asking substantive questions about issues is journalistic dereliction of duty. Rudy has a hefty track record already that requires full-force exposure, and Williams asks baseball questions and loads up on code words like "tragedy"? He didn't lob softball questions, he regressed to T-ball and laid the ball as motionless as one could get.
Come on! C&L addresses legitimate issues. Democrats don't get the same kinds of passes, and even if they were provided, I would be as pissed as I am now at Williams, NBC for airing it, and Rudy for smirking his away through the "interview."
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beverins @ 39:
How can it get worse? I believe the majority of the American public that actually bother to vote, are disgusted with both parties, but will vote with their party. Let Gibbering Giuliani
she that skull-like smile all he wants. HE is a known tool and proves it daiy.
9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11
Hell, he probably puts it down as his date of birth!
All that was missing was the brandy and cigars.
shoot, when Williams hosted that debate back in (what? April?) I wouldn't have been surprised if he'd told the frontrunners to get on their knees and scrub the floor.
If Rudy were a Democrat, he would be a laughingstock. he's NOT a Democrat so it's time for softball. can they go a whole year without asking a single important question of the guy? they've done it before.
Well, I shot off another missive to the "liberal media", this time to the wonderful folks at GE/NBCNews, to bitch about BriWi and his lovefeast with America's favorite drag queen (Ru Paul is SOOOOOOO yesterday, dears!). Here's what I said, like it will do any good:
"Gee, why didn't Brian Williams just get down on his knees and give Giuliani oral sex during the news hour? Do you think he could ask ONE substantive question any time during those 34 minutes of shameless Rudy glorification? Is NBC News going to promise that Williams will also conduct totally softball interviews with all of the Democratic candidates? Yeah, I can hear the frost warnings from hell already being broadcast on the Weather Channel."
This is why I am so hoping that the Judith Regan lawsuit goes nuclear. It is the perfect vehicle to show the American public how corrupt the corporate news media is. People in this country still think THEY choose the candidates, when it is the media that decides - according to the whims of their corporate masters. I only hope this scandal becomes more toxic by the day. If the public gets pissed and starts demanding change from the FCC and the rest of the government you will see the media change REAL fast in order to avoid a new Fairness Doctrine or losses to their broadcast spectrum. Besides, it would be rather nice to see Rupert Murdoch and his Flying Monkies given the same treatment they have put so many others through.
Kind of like farting in a lift, leaving something shitty for the next occupant.
Rudy Giuliani is only allowed to run because he makes Clinton look good and the republicans look bad. Then, when its between Clinton and Ron Paul for the final vote, the republicans look bad. If it ends up coming to that.
Hooks @ 13:
This isn't gossip, it is a perfectly valid example of the blatant MSM bias and their crass manipulation that has poisoned our political discourse. Williams is little more than a biased panderer doing his corporate master's bidding. Perhaps he really wants to get a job with FOX Ooze, in which case I would say he is well qualified.
pissed off patricia @ 4:
ant the fact that he wasnt in his opffice on 911 or any of his staff either indicates he wasnt hideing just makeing sure he was elsewares!
How long is it taking to get a passport these days?
Another good example of friendly relationships between politicians and journalists is to be found in France, maybe you remembre Bush's and President Sarkozy's last press conference...quite disgusting...
Hooks @ 10:
Yes, but at one point MSNBC was the only channel I could tolerate. I TiVO countdown, but thats about it.
What a joke of an interview. The last republican to get a dose of balls that soft was Larry Craig.
Hooks @ 13:
Pathetic take, "Hooks." "Who gives a shit?" That's what the site is about. "Crooks and Liars" DUH.
GE 'hearts' RG
vince @ 48:
Ron Paul v Clinton -- bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!
mudshark @ 1:
Rudy was the only person in a position of authority that stood in front of cameras on 9/11, unlike our coward in chief and the vice coward in chief that spent the day in hiding. Seeing Rudy in front of the cameras gave the public a small sense of security. At least someone was saying something and not hiding. If only the coward in chief had stood in front of the cameras, Americans would have felt safer. As it was, Americans were confused and afraid and rightfully so.
Bush and Cheney - cowards that support torture, death and deficits.
Isn't this the same racist Brain Williams? I thought he was better educated, but the Rush Limbaugh aspect capped it.
Rudy seems to be riding high especially when he attacks Hillary.
Why hasn't the media asked him why he literally cowered out the the NY Senate race against Clinton? He had a chance to run against her and pussed out.
Why can't we get any tough questions from the media?
Would it be so difficult to hit some of these candidates with a few intelligent questions regarding their voting records or other actions while in office?
I'm so tired of softball questions and friendly conversations instead of real interviews.
Rudy is our next president. Bill Maher is right. Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people to vote for another 9/11 candidate.
All I can think about when I see or hear from Rudy Guiliani is there sits a man that owes his entire Presidential campaign to a terrorist group. If it were not for them and the attacks they carried on 9/11, Guiliani would be a nobody and he knows it.
Matt @ 62:
Well, your question has been answered about a million times here:
The media is no more. It is a marketing extension of corporate America. While people were mindlessly tuned into their favorite network news awhile back, a few companies snatched up ownership and oh-so-subtly canceled the news.
The joke is: only people with internet access seem to know this.
Perhaps the United States will realize something is up if and when Clinton and Giuliani are the two choices in '08.
It makes my head spin and my stomach turn.
Why do I get a visual of Brian Williams, Tim Russert and Chris Matthews in a circle jerk, orgasming as each of them take turns trying to outdo each other's verbal attacks on Hillary Clinton?
OxyCon @ 66:
Soundz like you have a little problem there. Eeeeuuuuuu.
Brian Williams? Fuck that guy. No person who understands the world they live in would be a fan of Rush Limbaugh's. This repugnent individual has lowered political discourse into the garbage can and he licks the slimey bottom of it every chance he gets.
His audience is made up of angry white men who don't realize they are racists. Their political IQ is too low to measure. They only know what Rush tells them to think. They exist to shout Rush's opinions at others with no facts to back up the hateful ranting.
But, sure, Brian, be a fan.... dick.
years ago the league of women voters sponsored perhaps the most intelligent debates ever....why don't the dems just use them again and avoid the crap that flows from the asshat media.....just asking
all these beltway bumpkins are addicted to their mob connected, cross dressing serial groom. Rudy= Clarance from Boston Legal
It is hilarious how Brian Williams is so freaking stupid that he shines his ignorance for all the world to see.
He thinks he is the king of national news.
He is not.
In fact... Keith Olbermann and John Stewart are the kings of national news.
And Mr. Weasel Williams knows it.
I'm not surprised.. Brian Williams won't be the only one drooling over Rudy. Chris Matthews, Fox News, CNN, they'll all be ooh-ing and ahh-ing Rudy during interviews. It's something the Democrats have to prepare for when the general election rolls around. We've got to be vigilant and let them know that we the people aren't going to stand for you making cute faces to Rudy when he deserves serious questions.
I wonder how many hours (when it's all added up), how many hours will Rudy have LOST for answering tough questions, all because EVERY interviewer has to ask him about the Yankees, etc etc.. And even when they do they don't bring up the fact he's a horrible hypocrite for cheering for the Red Sox during the World Series! During those hours of interview time talking about baseball with Rudy, Hillary or Obama will get accusations and republican talking-points thrown in their face.
STOP THE PRESSES ..................
What is this ... baseball ... of which they speak?
I didn't see the interview...But did Rudy have to stand up for Williams to kiss his ASS???
Is it just me or does Rudy look a lot like Colonel Klink?
I’m not surprised.. Brian Williams won’t be the only one drooling over Rudy. Chris Matthews, Fox News, CNN, they’ll all be ooh-ing and ahh-ing Rudy during interviews.
Especially when Tweety starts swooning over how Rudy smells; just like he did with Frederick of Hollywood Thompson.
What in the FUCK are they talking about? Is this a serious interview or is this Sportscenter?
But on the bright side, at least the Rude seems knowledgeable about SOMETHING!!
Another fucking Presidential candidate who's more qualified to be baseball comissioner....
L.A. Confidential @ 39:
Panem et circenses American style, I guess...
Dom Says:
Well, I shot off another missive to the “liberal media”, this time to the wonderful folks at GE/NBCNews, to bitch about BriWi and his lovefeast with America’s favorite drag queen (Ru Paul is SOOOOOOO yesterday, dears!). Here’s what I said, like it will do any good:
“Gee, why didn’t Brian Williams just get down on his knees and give Giuliani oral sex during the news hour? Do you think he could ask ONE substantive question any time during those 34 minutes of shameless Rudy glorification? Is NBC News going to promise that Williams will also conduct totally softball interviews with all of the Democratic candidates? Yeah, I can hear the frost warnings from hell already being broadcast on the Weather Channel.”
This is why I am so hoping that the Judith Regan lawsuit goes nuclear. It is the perfect vehicle to show the American public how corrupt the corporate news media is. People in this country still think THEY choose the candidates, when it is the media that decides - according to the whims of their corporate masters. I only hope this scandal becomes more toxic by the day. If the public gets pissed and starts demanding change from the FCC and the rest of the government you will see the media change REAL fast in order to avoid a new Fairness Doctrine or losses to their broadcast spectrum. Besides, it would be rather nice to see Rupert Murdoch and his Flying Monkies given the same treatment they have put so many others through.
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right the fuck on dom ........ it's so fucking true ... even worse that corporate slut williams is of course russert and then the utterly deranged matthews. THE DAILY HOWLER is doing incredible work, again, to expose this corporate /repiglican/ media agenda. and he is really taking on the 'liberal' blogs and writters that remain utterly silent as to this agenda, literally begging them to come out of their silence and to expose this shit for what it is. cause unless that happens these corporate sluts will get away with it again. here is today's post on the DAILY HOWLER.
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ALL WOMEN LEFT BEHIND! Matthews’ loathing of women has long been clear. Why won’t lib journals say so? // link // print // previous // next //
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 2007
THE TRUTH ABOUT RUSSERT: An amazing thing has occurred in the past few weeks; for the first time we can ever recall, Jack Welch’s angry and very Lost Boys have been forced to defend their gruesome conduct against complaints from the left. It’s true: Our “liberal” journals have been quite timid. The weak young lads who work at those journals aren’t going to speak until it’s quite safe. So the toughest complaints have had to come from Democratic politicians themselves. (This is not good strategy.)
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I'm holding up a finger, pointed vertically upward. I'm not going to tell which one. I promise.
Hooks @ 8:
Hey there you got a crystal ball or something. Quite nutty to go around predicting the end results of an election unless you are going to help steal it again, the way people helped 'W' steal two elections.
Who knows if its an honest election she just MIGHT beat him.
Rich in San Bruno @ 74:
No it was the other way around Williams was kissing Rudys ARSE. Disgusting. Then he goes to the debate and tries to crusify Hillary, is that a crediable journalist. I think not.
love to know if Matthews reads the Daily Howler. If he does he has to be pretty dense ,to continue on every night with such stupidity. I'm pretty close to ending my long affair with anything that has NBC in its title. Talk about biased !!!!
The fact is that the prostate affair is part of a pattern: Mr. Giuliani has a habit of saying things, on issues that range from health care to national security, that are demonstrably untrue. And the American people have a right to know that.
BROCK,BETTY @ 81:
I despise Hillary. I think she is playing this "I'm a girl and the boys are ganging up on me" card way too much. You don't think Hillary is Rudi's best friend? IMO, You are sorely mistaken. I pray Edwards or Obama gets the nod
Hillary has'nt had a chance to play any card, Chris Matthews plays it every night over and over again. Watching him now and he can't see anything wrong with Giuilani's dilema but if Hillary claps or whatever , its MAJOR. What a total idiot.
Brian Williams, Inflatable Newsman.
They're all worthless. Zappa nailed it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsW2DTr2TnU
Don't forget, everyone! Giuliani married his frickin' cousin. Gotta love white-trash hijinks like that.
NBC = Nothing But Crap
All I can say is;
You think it's bad now, wait another year. All hell is going to break loose.
What is it about my former hometown of New Canaan, Connecticut? Brian Williams, Ari Fleischer, Paul (Jerry) Bremer, Ann Coulter...it's one thing to be a Republican stronghold, it's another to have produced such a pathetic collection of brain-dead soldiers for Bush's army.
Former media luminaries from New Canaan like Red Smith, Vance Packard and Norman Rockwell are dead and gone now. The town is left with Chris (Mad Dog) Russo, Mike Lupica, and a collection of Bush apologists. What a shame.
I can't believe Guiliani has the nerve to blame Clinton for us not having a strong enough military!!! Does he know how to count? Bush has been president for SEVEN YEARS! Bush has exploited the soldiers to fight a moronic war and has given them no support in any way. Wouldn't give them armor. Wouldn't send in the numbers that everyone knew we had to have in order to secure and stabilize Iraq. Cut their health care and benefits. Fought this war on the cheap so that more there'd be more money for contractors' pockets and refused to establish any oversight so that no one would know who got the money and how much. And Guiliani wants to blame Clinton? How stupid is this jerkhole? How stupid does he think WE are? Who the hell would want to enlist in Bush's Army? But he thinks he can bring up the numbers of enlistees through better advertising? Who could take Guiliani seriously as a candidate for president, other than a swooning news media? It's time people like Williams started asking serious, thoughful que