The newest from Friedman: Obama/Cheney in '08
By John Amato Monday Nov 19, 2007 5:40pmOK, I can't get myself to do a post on this one. Cheney's warmongering has been a nightmare for America, but Friedman finds a use for him. I can't---w-r-i-t-e anything on it...I'll let Glenn Greenwald take you though the madness...


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Get your war on! Friedman is a despicably stupid tool. I wonder if he even realizes what a tool he really is and who he is a tool for.
Cold war with Iran? STFU Tom.
So I suppose he thinks Obama is the only one stupid enough to pick cheney as a vice president. I think so too.
The United States is going to be a frightening place to live in during the next decade. And you don’t hear anyone disagreeing .
Friedman = a botched lobotomy.
Were any units burned up in arriving at this puppeteer dream team? FU, Freidman, FU.
Jo @ 4:
Well said!!! Excellent...
He's got my vote for wanker of the year for this little gem.
Maddddnnneeeeessssssssssssssss
So, we carpet bomb them first and then we call them up and ask them to negotiate, right?
one of the many symptoms of a sociopathic mental disorder is the Lack of Realistic Life Plan
He must be auditioning for O'Leerly's job. Or am I just dreaming that his days are numbered?
b @ 8:
Geeze, that reminds me of an old ELO song -- Fire on High.
this is awful.....not even funny....sick.....I have an Edwards /Obama 08 Sign that I made and has been in my yard since summer.....people used to laugh...now they actually ask about it....
btw John, why feed Friedman's massive ego ? doesn't he have enough repug shills do that ? just saying....
Friedman/Goebbels 2008!
-GSD
Who is Friedman? I don't think he has any power. We have to stop being influenced by these idiots with one minute left in their 15 minutes of fame.
Didn't he write, "The Cluster Bomb and the Olive Tree"?
(Don't say anything bad about Timah . . his boyfriend Tim Russert will get real mad!)
Here's the ticket, Lohan/Friedman!
Lindsey would balance Tom's irrationality, and provide a measure of stability at the top.
She would also provide a degree of intellectual capacity, which has been sorely lacking in Friedman and our current leadership. Tom would be an excellent second banana, and provide a lot of lightness and an exceptional material source for the late night comics.
Ranger @ 16:
We celebrate people who are great writers even though they exist lodged firmly up their lower digestive tracts.
People who are in denile about the disease of partisan politics are going to be in for a rude awakening.
Partisan Politics is what got this country into all the trouble we are in...PERIOD....
L.A. Confidential @ 20:
And denile ain't just a river in Egypt.
Fried---man. This whacko's brain is fried for sure.
Who moved the cheese? Was there ever any cheese?
Friedman's book was about a stripper eating cheap meat. It was called "Lexi and the Olive Loaf".
-GSD
Avid Reader @ 23:
It's hiding under the facial fungus of Freidman.
Partianship in politics is a masquerade.
There is only one party in the U.S.
The party controlled by corporations.
Call it what you will. Democratic or Republican.
Why do progressives deceive themselves by thinking dems, once in power, will be better than repubs?
Yes, FDR did his thing.
Progressives, IMO, are wrong in thinking the next dem pres will restore FDR values and thinking.
Dems in power, IMO, will look a lot like repubs.
Wishful thinking is wishful thinking.
Jesus on a fucking dinosaur...
My brain/heart/soul hurts just from reading the title of this post, no way am I even going to bother to entertain his reasoning.
One ticket that I have been talking, which I think would be unstoppable, is Obama/W.Clark. You have Obama bring a new fresh face to our politics and diplomacy, and let him really take charge and handle things domestically. Meanwhile you have four-star general Wesley Clark advise on the military type of details of getting out of Iraq, as well, he provides that "strong and experienced" face that is so often deemed as Obama's weakness.
...However, I am compelled to add that I am still holding hope that either Kucinich(really our only true hope) or Gore make the ticket.
GSD @ 24:
And don't forget the sequel, "The World is Fat" - a perspective from the gutter.
Ok it all makes sense now. Friedman was a Ritalin kid.
That dude -- Friedman -- has a line on some serious good drugs.
And I gather he can afford them.
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Friedman knows the loss the Repubs expect in '08. Only in his nightmare-ish dreams could Cheney ever be in a Democratic Adm.
Friedman should accept reality that this and the Repubs are failures in Governing. Were way ovr their heads. Focused on profiting off this war like the thieves they are.
Privatizing our Government so all you have are privateers suckling at the Government trough. Privateers are just big welfare queens.
Robt @ 31:
Somebody ought to put that on a bumper sticker -- "Blackwater - the mean welfare queen."
OK, I give up . . is this a joke . . . or is Freidman (and Dowd) certifiably in-fucking-sane!
The idea of a national leader (of ANY country) saying, look guys, sign this agreement 'cuz I got Cheney on my back and you know HE'S CRAZY!
Does Freidman have flashbacks to the 60's or something.
That idea is so totally over the top that he should be fired. Free speech is one thing . . . yelling FIRE in a theater is something else.
The man's nuts!
Who's this Friedman character? Never heard of him.
So let's get this straight. I can create a blog and come up with some outlandish scheme and people will take it seriously?
The warmongers have done more damage to this country then anybody else. I just bet most of that 30 percent of Americans who still back Bush live totally insular lives. They believe the world revolves around the US. We've only been a nation for a couple hundred years and there have been civilizations that have lasted longer.
I have something for the warmongers. You took the whimpy way out. You went after a country hobbeled by two no fly zones, economic sanctions and international inspections and went to war with them. Like Greenwald said you just took a small country much smaller then us and just threw them against the wall. We went to war with them because we could.
It's the same way George whimped out of going to vietnam. These guys aren't warmongers they are whimps and the people that back them are whimps too.
Let's not build these guys up to be big macho men. They are whimps. They wouldn't dare go after someone who actually did have nuclear weapons. So they invade little countries who can barely defend themselves. Thats not macho or manly. It's the whimpy way out. So lets knock these fools down a few notches. They aren't men. They are little playground brats just trying to get their own way.
Sorry. I could read it all AND hold down lunch. If i'm missed something valuable further into the piece, I apologise.
So there idea is that we can have whichever President we want, as long as the same puppeteer is in charge?
Recently some morons floated the idea of a Cheney President. Considering he is one of the most unpopular individuals this side of Ghengis Khan, this didn't go far. Now, round 2 is that Cheney will remain VP?
Who is coming up with this sh*te?
=my2c
BC
He's just doing his job of tearing down any opposition that might pose a threat.
Obama is a threat to Hillary (whom the establishment loves for some reason) so asshat here has to spread FUD, no matter how inane, about him.
Get ready for a lot of this, they seem to be hoping by associating the threats openly with themselves we'll eliminate them from the competition and possible forget about their favorite Dem candidates oh so tight ties.
I'm disappointed I though Kinky Friedman wrote a new song. Oh well. There is a good song by Jay Mankita called "They Lied" and its free for the download.
Whenever I read the frat boy blatherings for Friedman and his ilk I find myself wanting to play Dustin Hoffman's role of the "mule skinner" in Arthur Penn's brilliant film "Little Big Man". I want to turn to these General George Armstrong Custer wannabes and say, "You go down there to Little Big Horn, General."
I fear their bloated carcasses are not fit even for the buzzards.
"Flat Earther" Friedman. Proof that ANYONE can win a Pulitzer or two (and then serve on the board)!
I've deplored his jingoistic, simpleton writing for quite a while now. Seriously, it is of the level of an ignorant, but well intended ninth grader. ("Gee golly WOW! People in India aren't inherently retarded! I'm gonna have to rethink EVERYTHING!" Uh, yeah no shit Tom. But all politics are ultimately local.) Looks like he still doesn't get it.
Even more puzzling than some people painting him as an 'intellectual' or even 'thoughtful' is that he is still perceived as some sort of liberal icon?! What gives? Don't you get the feeling he still flops down on his floor at home and plays with little plastic army men saying, "Ka-pow! Bang, bang! Haha! Wow, this must be just like real war!"?
Unfortunately, he does (or did) have a fair amount of power. I don't know if he's a rich kid or an access to power whore or what... but somebody seems to be looking out for his career.
Jo @ 4:
They didn't botch a thing. In fact they did too good a job.
Obama's life would not be worth a plugged nickel with Darth Cheney waiting in the wings to restore the Rethuglican empire to all its former "glory". Sounds like that's what he oughta do, Tom. Do they pay you to come up with gems such as this?
#32 Jo
"( Somebody ought to put that on a bumper sticker — “Blackwater - the mean welfare queen.” )"
I like it, It sings.
kinky friedman would never say something so incredibly stupid!! but this brings on some thoughts.. now, kinky would be really great, but once again, he is too damn intelligent...
The Friedman Eunuch is too entertaining to be thrown into the loony bin ward called the Friedman Unit.
I'm sick of this unity08dom by the beltway bumpkins
purvis ames @ 44:
They kick you out after 6 months whether you're cured or not.
I'll have what he's smoking...
I watched Tom Friedman on the Charlie Rose show. I was dumbstruck by how unconscious he was that his coy self-adulation betrayed his truly adolescent thinking patterns and how pleased he was with himself as a result.
He doesn't have to work (not a crime). His wife is incredibly rich (good for him). He lives like The Great Gatsby in ornate and palatial digs. He murmurs to make himself relevant; I get the sense that he values his New York Times column as on a par with his wife's connubial contribution. He conflates the two. (1) He's a hard-core Zionist; so is his wife. (2) He comes up with these veiled neocon screeds masquerading as revelatory essays — which probably gets him laid — that he perceives as the equivalent of discovering the theory of relativity. "I utter, therefore I am, and so are you." He's a bore. He's ignorant of history. He talks down to everyone. He's a US citizen who places Israel's interests first, and in today's world that is going to get a lot more Americans killed.
swarmofkillermonkeys @ 39:
Yes.
Oh jesus, read this:
http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/leadership/usnews/friedman.html
This Friedman quote is priceless: "I'm probably the only person who reads both Wired and the Jerusalem Post on a regular basis."
hunh ?!?
Either this is an insight into what reporters regularly dont read, or he is profoundly unfathomably fucking stupid. For one, he doesn't know me. And I read a minimum of 100 publications/day. And I'm sure many who contribute to this blog do, not to mention the owners.
God, hammer my head to the wall.
Good News about Friedman, just in time for Thanksgiving.
Tom became concerned about colon cancer, and decided to have a colonoscopy.
He took the Fleet's purge, to cleanse his colon and rid him of all fecal matter, and he just disappeared.
Happy Thanksgiving to All, and BuhBye, Tom.
Hareli - I like the cut of your jib. Keep it up.
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Mr Pelicano @ 52:
thx :-)
Friedman's main point I think is compelling. He is not haughtily dismissing diplomacy, I think, but instead arguing for a standard good cop/bad cop approach to the Iranian crisis. That sounds smart. As a writing, attention-grabbing device, he trotted out an absurdity -- Cheney and Obama.
I myself differ with Friedman on various subjects, including his opposition to NATO expansion. But in the Iraq case, I believe that he has openly eaten crow numerous times on his bad call leading up to the war.
Steve LeVine, author
The Oil and the Glory (Random House)
http://www.oilandglory.com
I saw something on this lameass notion last week too.. It's just nuts.. plain fucking nuts as an idea.. Friedman is a lunatic... certifiably insane if he actually thinks this shit will fly..... Hey Tommy? Yer boy Cheney? He needs to have his punkass sent to prison....Maybe he can be his butch cellmates 'vice' president with his face down in the pillow..... Maybe you need to look for a new line of work yourself Tommyboy....JD
Is his column supposed to be comedy, as in the Rush Limpdick style comedy? I've never actually read one (live in Asia). I see him here at C&L, and I went over to Salon to read Glen Greenwald's article. (Looked like 1/2 Hour News Hour style "comedy" to me.) So... is it "comedy"? [Cuz, if it's NOT, he's one whacked f*ckhead.]
This is what comes of promoting the idea that "thinking outside the box" is, in itself, always a good thing.
Outside-the-box is the new inside-the-box.
I survived the dot-com era and I have a graveyard full of kooshes and mouse pads to prove it.
Now when people tell me that they're "thinking outside the box," I ask them to:
a) identify the box
b) explain why the box is bad
c) prove that they are not just in another, more insane, less well understood box
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