GOP CNN/YouTube Debate: Mitt & Rudy's Spat--Sanctuary City or Sanctuary Mansion?
By Logan Murphy Tuesday Nov 27, 2007 8:02pm
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Tonight's Republican YouTube debate on CNN started out with bang -- and a pow and a bam. The first question was directed at Rudy Giuliani from an unhappy New Yorker who accused him of running a sanctuary city during his time as Mayor. Rudy defends his record on immigration and crime, but when host Anderson Cooper asks fellow candidate Mitt Romney to comment, he goes after Rudy and it was all downhill from there.
The two went back and forth trading barbs about who was nicer to immigrants, when Rudy accuses Romney of hiring illegal immigrants to work at his mansion. Romney didn't take kindly to the accusation and after Rudy got more personal and refused to allow Cooper to move on to another question the boos started flying from the audience. This was really ugly, and a real statement about the state of the Republican Party. As Scarce commented -- this debate is like a funeral...with booing.
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two words: chuck norris.
It's a Murican' Thing
Witness the insanity of black Friday, the busiest shopping day of the year where people are annually trampled at the doors of Wal-Mart in the quest for the latest incarnation of the X-Box. He with the most toys wins and the losers are trampled underfoot, ground into dust.
Giuliani will walk away from this controversy. He's not in charge of what's billed where. He'll walk.
I hate brown people, no I hate brown people MORE...
it's even more fun you watch them tear each other up while eating some freshly made jiffy pop.
mmm!
So the Democratic candidates get asked what their favorite Bible verse is. The Republican candidates get asked to tell about their favorite guns, and get into a mini who-loves-guns-the-most derby.
It's amazing to me that these goofballs have convinced America that they are the party of the Christians.
I just gotta email this out to a bunch of folks i know. I about hurt myself laughing, might as well spread the mirth...
"What would Jesus do?" What the f*** kind of question is that in a Presidential debate?
C'mon...they were saying "booooooo-liani"
Today , November 28th, 2007, we are witness to the news that a decorated Fabergé egg has sold for over five million dollars to a person with more money than brains.
Huckabee's answer to the Bible question might see him walking away with this one... unless something horrendous happens when Iraq comes around. It's no surprise the evangelicals are turning to him.
No Mitt, I EXPECT that you would have done the basic due diligence as a State Governor in a post 9/11 World and made sure that the company hired to work on your family manse were doing business legally in YOUR state... BUT YOU DIDN'T!
FOOD FIGHT!
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the real question is "Who would Jesus Nuke?"
Do any of the rethugs read history or literature?
At least McCain is willing to speak out against torture.
$18.5 million, but who's counting?
Back on-topic:
It's truly frightening listening to which responses gets booed, and watching what comments make the the applaus-o-meter spike up.
Who are all these crazy people living in this country?
that's ugly, anyone else running? Pass it along, there's a war going on in Iraq.
drshatterhand @ 4:
The Republican immigration debate, summed up masterfully in ten words.
I really, really hope the Hispanic electorate is going to rise up nationwide like they did in California.
ralph @ 14:
Few enough read the bible.
Wien @ 11:
What did he say? I misssed it...
Rudy’s Romps Billed To Taxpayers
Expensed Hamptons Trips At Same Time He Started Affair With Southampton Resident Judith Nathan... Out Of City Every Weekend Leading Up To 9/11…Auditors Were Unable To Verify Expenses Were Legit… Only Reason To Do This Is "To Have Nobody Know About It"
— this debate is like a funeral…with booing
Well, at least the death pf the GOP will allow a rebirth of America and democracy.
That stage is awash in testosterone.
ronnyg @ 9:
hahaha!
if theres anymore boo-liana moments in the debate i hope C&L will post the video :)
WILLARD MITT ROMNEY made the GOP in Mass almost a fringe party, good to see him continuing his good work....
At least after a funeral the body is in the ground and you can go home and move on. These bastards are like Night of the Living Dead.
If they're going to whine at each other like that they should just fight it out but no one wants to watch two men in make up slap fight each other into tears.
Suppose the 'booers' are on a list somewhere now?
This party needs to hurry up and decompose. What a pathetic bunch.
I only watched (it's about all I could stomach) a couple minutes but my god; are they running for the GOP nomination or are they in a contest to see who can best emulate the leadership of Iran (without the Islam)?
Anyone know offhand if CNN will rebroadcast this late tonight? I'm at work until 1am EST.
Popcorn anyone?
<-- Moonbat McCrazypants is enjoying this thoroughly.
Romney looked pretty bad on the gays in the military question. Wow, what a fumbled answer. He tried to dodge his previous position and did a miserable job at it.
My favorite part so far:
Giuliani gets the question - "What do you think about people who say you are using 9-11 to get the white house?"
Answer: something something blah blah 9-11, something else before 9-11, and 9-11 and then after 9-11...
... In about 40 seconds, LOVE IT!!!
Do they accept the support of the Log Cabin Republicans! Ha ha!
Did Huckabee just say "someone that sticks 'em" in response to the log cabin question?! Maybe I'm hearing things.
When you can name any country on earth which is kindlier to their illegal immigrants than the United States is to its illegal immigrants please give me a ring.
Nevermind, I'll realize it because Hell as frozen over.
what we really need is an atheist in the white house-- someone who doesn't have the fantasy of heaven to fall back on when we trade nukes with the rest of the world-- jesus, i am sick of this religion crap!!!
Conservative right wing ideology is a threat to the future existence of a free, healthy, prosperous America.
Aw don't be too hard on republicans. Obviously these are not the real republican candidates. These are just the losers they suckered into running this election. Any republican with brains (just because they're evil doesn't mean they're dumb) is waiting for the next go round.
Think about it, any republican who can look around and say "Now is my chance!" is obviously not a serious candidate.
I think these candidates are like the dates in one of those frat boy contests where they try to find the ugliest dates. The GOP knew they needed to field some candidates but didn't want to risk anyone serious so they got these guys. Giuliani is pro-gun control, pro life, pro immigration. Romney is a Mormon from the NE who has also been pro everything before flip flopping for the race. And those are the top two contenders! Ron Paul is insane. Huckabee wants to fight for Israel so the apocalypse can happen!
I think we're being scammed.
john bourne harbour @ 36:
You think only an athiest doesn't take the bible as truth?
I think Rudy put on a good show antagonizing Mitt. It will be an interesting battle. It’s all publicity and its politics…so let the games begin! I wonder who will come in second.
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john bourne harbour @ 36:
Agreed. I don't care what the hell people believe so long as they keep it under their damn hats and in their own places of worship or whatever. What has it got to do with anything? Hearing empty suits lie about how much holier then thou they are to please a bunch of empty headed cultists makes me physically ill.
yellow dog @ 23:
In that case, I just stepped on some testosterone and I had to hose down my shoe.
It is like watching the last few bits of your bowel movement swirl around the bowl before the flush takes them away to some faraway place......that is not the white house.....IMHO
Giuliani's toast - poor showing this evening. I think Huckabee may be the one to watch.
As Governor, Willard Mitt Romney has an obligation (and the resources) to make certain that everything he does is above board or, as his religion so states, to "avoid the appearance of evil". He could have very easily vetted the lawn care company who had illegals working for them (or cut his own goddam lawn), but instead, in absentee fashion, let it fly. It took an investigative reporter for a newspaper to bring it to Willard's attention.
It also took a collapsing tunnel that killed someone to get Willard off his ass and back from Salt Lake to deal with his failed administration of the Big Dig, his hack-laden Turnpike Authority, and his favorite contractor Bechtel.
As sickening as the exchange was between Willard and Rudy to watch, the fact is that Willard Mitt is a fraud. He just came out looking better simply because Rudy is a liar and a total crook.
I find the entire illegal "alien" so-called debate totally specious. It is sad that we accept this red herring as any significant part of a serious debate between presidential hopefuls.
Divide and conquer boys, it works every time. Are we really (collectively) that ignorant?
I don't think the people there...were in the 24% group....well....not all of them anyway.It just goes to show you that the repug party is eating their own.Cause they damn sure can't take a stand on any of the issues.and to think, they think they stand a chance in the coming election.A lot of people say Huckabee will get the nod....I can see that happening.But I think McCain will get it.It was promised to him.
Huckabee did have the only good line of the night:
"Jesus was smart enough not to run for office."
Listening to these infantile slugs and hacks slam other was pathetic. But what do you expect from a party with a corrupt and bankrupt ideology and delusional worldview?
Maybe if Anderson Cooper moderates the next "debate" he'll bring the time out chair with him.
MargeAggedon @ 27:
Considering they're props, yes.
Mitt and Rudy attack each other like a boy in the school yard attacking the girl he secretly likes. They should get a room
This Boston Globe article is a nice summary of Mittwit's predicament on the issue or "illegals":
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/12/01/illegal_immigrants_...
Joe for Unity08 @ 39:
Agreed, mr. harbour. I think it's better to hope the next president isn't a religious fanatic. That doesn't necessarily mean she/he must be an atheist.
Oops, meant to say I agree with Joe for Unity.
fun to watch two reps fight. it is in their culture buddy. who wants stage decency.
Did anyone else see the expression that crossed that girl's face right after McCain said (before changing the topic to Iraq) "If Congress can't fix the tax code, give me the job and I'll fix it." ?
Priceless...
Just got to love Mitt's comment on people who have "a funny accent" and therefore they are illegal aliens. Watch out Mitt, I think you have a funny accent too. What is this crap from these men, have they no sense of decency whatsoever?
mitt romney is easily the slimeyest oily rag of a political hack ever....
that was pretty damn funny
They're just debating about how bloody nasty they can be to people.
What's funny to me about this whole debate crap is that f*cks noise always reports on the Democratic candidates, especially Hillary and Obama, as if they are going at each other's throat and the party is coming unglued.
Then these morons get up and mcCain goes after Paul like he's a Hitler sympathizer, the mormon goes after the marriage counselor like they both live in evil empires with crime and illegal immigrants calling the shots...and NOTHING is said on the propaganda network, as though all is one big happy family.
Such bullshit.
couple of things
not once did rudy mention employer penalties....unless employers are severly punished for hiring illegals, the prob wont stop
second....either romney is a doof or a total sociopath....if the government hires a contractor, then yes, the government is responsible to make sure that contractor does not have illegals in his/her employ...that person should be jailed, fined and not allowed to apply for another contract for life
enuf of insourcing and union busting
....What would jesus do? Do you believe every word in this book is true? What the....@##^@# does that have to do with leading our country? Separation of church and state anyone?....ANYONE?
"Funny accents"????????????????????
What a weird argument for Mitt and Rudy to have. Especially Rudy.
Isn't his 'Next wife-to-be' an illegal immigrant?'
joe cantwell @ 5:
I dislike people who break the law, don't try to improve their own country, and send waves into ours to usurp American privileges. I dislike not knowing who is entering our country...oh, out of millions of people, not one of them is a murderer on the run, a pedophile, a thief, a rapist. Not one, I'm so totally sure of that. What's so special about Mexican immigrants that they get to skip the what the Immigrants who entered via Ellis Island had to do?
Ya know, illegals are not carriers of exotic viruses, or germs...but STD's that were on the wane, Hep A, B, C that are mostly contained...you must take things like that into consideration.
I'm sorry, but when an illegal immigrant places a kid in school as is the law, and if they have a job that taxes are not taken out of, it's WRONG WRONG WRONG and a slap in the face to the hardworking US citizens. Ask my boss who is a legal immigrant.
Medical care IS given out, in the form of ER visits..I've seen plenty there...can't even speak English; I'm SO sure they pay a debt that won't even be registered with a social security number to a collection agency. Who pays for it?
I REALLY like the idea of having 24 million extra water bottles added to the environment, because of an unnaturally inflated population.
Help their country...help them...IN their own country...but stop giving them jobs, and they'll stop coming.
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Sanctuary mansion? Perhaps Dante and Randall can help Mitt and Rudy with this dilemma. http://imdb.com/title/tt0109445/
Well, since I didn't abuse myself by watching repugs play at being grownups, I can see I didn't waste my evening. From the posts I have read I made the right choice by reading a book and watching a movie with my granddaughter. My granddaughter is nine years old and has more brains in her little finger then these nuts have combinded.
'If you hear someone with a funny accent', the underwear model said.
Am I wrong, or are the republicans in deep trouble?
You poor people; your poor country; these sad "politicians". I've never seen such a thing. Next debate the bitch slapping begins.
[Fux'll eat it up, it will become the most popular "sport" on TV, (more popular than "American Idol"), Dick and George will (meanwhile) quietly burn the Constitution and send Blackwater to every town. Game over.]
myshadow @ 58:
I'll second that.
I can see why the FDNY firemen and the 9-11 victim's families hate Rudy's guts.
What a nasty, smarmy little bastard he is. If he ever got to be prez, BooshTwo would look like a piker in comparison. This guy would make this country a fascist state, as we upstate New Yorkers say "in a New York minute". Think of him as Mussolini reborn. And he's been playing footsie with a Shiek that harbored terrorists? What an asshole, Mayor 9-11 my ass.
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