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bluegal on Thursday, November 29th, 2007 at 8:30 PM - PST
The 35 Percenters are up to their hilarious hijinks again (with the Las Vegas debate as backdrop). I would laugh and laugh, except listening to Wolf Blitzer flat-out lie about “equal time” makes me cry… for proof re-visit Chris Dodd’s Debate Time Clock for Las Vegas.
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I hate to see Dennis marginalized in the debates. Wolf Blitzer acts like a Bush shill anyway.
Th 11 percenters are up to their usual shiite…and?
Damn, I can’t believe how good Huckabee is doing in the polls. And he was by far the most Presidential at the debate last night. Of course we can find criticisms from everyone, but he seems moderate on social issues and just plain charming as hell. If we do pick Hillary then I would hope Huckabee gets the nomination and beats her because he would atleast be a tolerable Republican. He’s what Bush pretended to be - he’s a compassionate conservative. And it’s great to see someone pick up on Buchanan’s mix of economic populism with other conservative causes.
And its funny that even the blogs have little to attack Huckabee on. Yea, maybe he had a few bad dealing as governor, but goddamn look at the history of disgusting corruption Hillary has shown.
Huckabee at least gives me some hope that Hillary won’t win the general and the republican nominee will be tolerable. And don’t that this post too serious as I may just be yet another person (and it’s all over the press and blogs) blinded by Huckabee’s charm. That man is one hell of a salesman.
And they also ATTACKED KUCINICH, FOR ISSUING PILOT’S LICENSES TO UFOs
Also, I’m hoping of course Hillary looses Iowa, but either way - whoever gets lower between Edwards and Obama in the first few primaries should drop out and pledge support to the other. If she takes those nominations that is the only strategy to take her out.
But at the same time I’m hoping soon either Obama or Edwards will get some dirty information and spread it to Drudge and the media. It is right now when she is shaky that another Clinton scandle will have people bowing to Edwards and Obama to save us.
Obama’s main goal right now though should be pushing black voters away from Hillary. I’m sure he can find something in the Clinton presidency to exploit. And if he does that he’s only got to convince a small amount of Hillary’s woman base to support him.
The Marines choose not
to support the troops. More people joined the unemployment line. Rudd says he’ll pull out half-way through ‘08.
If Giuliani survives all his recent scandal revelations, his new listing on the FBI’s ‘National Criminal Index’ will become, RUDOLPH GIULIANI, AKA ‘THE TEFLON GOOMBAH’
rudy prosecuted milken and rudy isn’t half the man milken is.
Caught a few minutes of Fox Noise today in the kitchen at work. They ran a piece about Iraqi citizens returning home from Syria for $750 each, and Fox Noise said they were coming back for the money and because Iraq was safer, but they neglected to mention they were coming back BECAUSE SYRIA WAS KICKING THEM ALL OUT. Fox Noise also said violence was down and American soldier’s deaths were down this year, which is complete B.S. Oh well, what can you expect the state run “news” station?
Ron Paul got treated the same way. Any way. I encourage you all to research and find out the real truth because what we see on TV is not the truth and if there is truth it will be criticized and put under wraps real quick.
budda @ 3:
i wouldnt take much comfort in huckabe or clinton getting in the whitehouse, thier both from hell!
if i cant have kucinich i may settle for edwards , at this point anyway,
It is obvious that Dennis Kucinich is a threat to corporate owned candidates.
Their way to attack the most viable President? Marginalize him; give him the least amount of time; do not allow him to any time to speak about his record. That is just about all they have done.
The problem they have with Kucinich; is that they can not erase his impressive records. Kucinich is the only one that successfully deliver for the AMERICAN PEOPLE and the only one that has been RIGHT all along. THAT IS VERY HARD TO BEAT. Their only recourse is to Shut HIM OUT.
But it will backfire. The more effort to silence Kucinich; the more curious voter are to hear and learn of them.
For all of us who have taken time to learn more about Kucinich the more he appeals to the Democratic base and the grassroots and working people. It is NO SURPRISE that the media and his opponent are shutting him out. WE THE PEOPLE………expected it. The attack on Kucinich will get worse as he gain more and more support. But Dennis Kucinich politics will not get defeated but rather at the least will get adopted at best will win the respect of the voters as a viable Presidential candidate sooner or later.
This country is in for another 4 years of the dark ages if we elect another president without the education to understand evolution and guts to admit that it explains our existence on this planet.
The Huckster is a very nice person but not the best choice for president for the 21st century.
Kucinich 08!!!!!!
At least Kucinich speaks his mind and isn’t afraid to voice strong opinions. He’s got way bigger balls than anyone else that was on that stage. He’s firmly against the war and he’s a true ally of the middle class… what more do you want? Democrats are scared of Kucinich because he actually seems to have *gasp* a backbone!
If it comes down to Hillary, I’m voting for a third party.
If AMERICAN voters do not have the “BACKBONE” or the “SPINE” to stand-up for what is RIGHT; If they can not courage to vote their concience; If they don’t respect the candidate that speaks for them (Dennis Kucinich); If they don’t have the confidence to have the vision of a REAL CHANGE; …………….then YOU DESERVE the same SPINELESS DEMOCRATS that is running OUR GOVERNMENT. The SAME CORRUPT government that has stolen your civil rights and your tax dollars. The same media bias and corporate controlled government.
It is TIME to RECLAIM our government from the corrupted elected officials.
Tim, the Enchanter @ 16:
The enchanted is out of his mind. If you vote third party you help a republican to win. Let’s take the whitehouse and the congress and then fix the party. There is no rest for the righteous.
i am a liberal and i am voting for ron paul why? he actually sounds like he knows economics and when you live check to check and have no insurance that is priority not simple lobbist talking points
An administration change is not going to derail where this country is headed.
Tim, the Enchanter @ 16:
If it comes down to Hillary and Guliani i may vote for Hillary and migrate no matter what the outcome.
Yes, Huckabee ruled the debate — and for a sad, hilarious lesson in denial, go read Hugh Hewitt’s column today: “Romney Won. Big.” Even his readers don’t believe him anymore.
But Huckabee fought to parole Wayne Dumond, a serial rapist who served only 7 years for the kidnapping/rape of a 17 year old girl. Despite letters from his other victims, Huckabee even wrote a letter to Dumond — who was released…and then raped, murdered a woman.
Huckabee also quietly boasted of executing more people than anybody in Arkansas history. Just like Bush. Another compassionate Christian. Huckabee is a better man, but his fundamentalism is scary.
Most Iraqi refugees must be more than poor, tired, and huddled to live here. A judge demands Bush release his telecom records.
I have voted republican, democrat and third party. I will only vote democrat anymore. Let’s fix the democratic party and remember that it stands for us better than any other party. Don’t take your personal feelings for granted and expect change. Let’s change the party.
christian @ 22:
Huckabee lost me at the first Republican debate when he said he didn’t believe in evolution. We can’t expect to continue to be an economic superpower if we start pitting science vs faith in the classroom. Then people have to choose, and once science starts to go on decline, society suffers.
Lots of trolls and Ralphers here.
That won’t help Kucinich.
Jesus.
I was going to give him praise but…
budda @ 3:
As a Christian, I have plenty of reasons to attack Huckabee, and I blogged about it today.
budda.
Why not Mohammed?
Or Bush?
Love the switch pitch.
budda @ 3:
Fool me once (with conservatives), fool me twice… uh.. you wont be fooled again. Screw that. I wont even touch Ron PAul as hes STILL a conservative, religious zealot, oilman. Look what happened last time people fell for that. I say DK all the way!!
shawn @ 19:
Two simple, obvious points, hes still big oil and a conservative, which means you are screwed regardless. Ron Paul is a scam. Dont forget what happened last time people voted for a Xtian, conservative, oil, big business man….
But you started being all about Huckabee and against Clinton.
We have retention.
So now you mention (as DK) Kucinich.
OK.
Let’s start fresh without trolls or abject Hillary haters.
Dennis Kucinich perhaps best represents the values and current positions of the
Democratic Party base.
Doesn’t mean he’ll be the nominee.
And these debate moderators won’t help.
Proud American @ 17:
Corporate controlled government is in reality budding fascism, wake up and be proud to be progressive LIBERALS. Quit resting on laurels and, yes its time to stand up to your conservative minded neighbors, friends and families and quit pretending we are, “moderates” or “centrists”, lets show we are proud to NOT be the villains!! Make our influences proud! Charlie Dickens, Gandhi, MLK, Lincoln, etc., we wont let you down. Go liberals!!
to change the subject, the producers have offered the writers nuttin’ but rollbacks…
Dennis is the only choice.
If you think we need real change, that is…
During the last Dem debate I started yelling at the TV because of the blatant inequity of answer time among the candidates. DK has no chance but come on! Give the man a chance to talk! He does add so much to the conversation and could open some people’s eyes to the reality and possibilities of our situation. But then…I’d much rather really like to know…people are dying to know…which is it HRC? Diamonds or pearls? F’n BS!
Yes, Dennis is the only one speaking for true progressive change. Edwards is too, but to a somewhat smaller degree. Thing is there have been a few things ruining my once very extreme support for Edwards. One of the biggest mistakes he made was with the marijuana answer during a recent democratic debate - “uh, no i won’t legalize —— because it’ll be a bad example for children.” Ah, what? So I agree with you guys that DK is our only hope.
But my more centrists democratic friends have concerns that edwards or dennis would be a repeat of George McGovern - too liberal for the general election. Remember though these are the corporatist dems that don’t give a damn about the hurt of the poor. They are a member of the thought - hey i got mine you go get yours. So, what we need to really shake things up is to have pretty much anyone but Hillary at this point.
If she does get the nomination though I think it would be worth it to loose the Presidency so that a true progressive could pick up the pieces of the democratic party in the next election.
Tim, the Enchanter @ 16:
Thank you for having some balls. Anyone who thinks fascism is a bad thing shouldn’t vote for Hillary. Vote for liberals, not Democrats. I will not vote for Hillary. The Democratic Party will never change as long as they know you’re too scared not to vote for them. The Democrats know the Left has nowhere to go so they keep rolling out the same corporate puppets. The only leverage you have is your vote. The only thing more cowardly than Democratic politicians seem to be Democratic voters. Did simply voting along party lines help us in ‘06? Your reps need to be held accountable. Dennis and Gravel are the only two presidential choices liberals have.
If Dennis should chose Paul as a running mate before the primaries (Paul says that’s out, BTW), I’ll vote for Dodd.
budda @ 5:
If that’s all Obama & Edwards have got to offer (more bogus swiftboating thru the Clinton years), then they couldn’t be more pathetic & Rovian. It’s sad that you have such an extremely low opinion of them as presidential possibilities. But I’ll take your word for their many shortcomings when compared to Hillary’s qualifications & experience. Playing the race & gender cards on behalf of Obama is really desperate & ignorant besides incredibly insulting to Obama. He’s that unqualified to be POTUS? Jeez, thanks for the heads up!
shawn @ 19:
No, you are a libertarian, biiig difference, plus you were already voting for him anyways.
Paulettes are funny, “I am a leftist… but I am voting for Paul” or “I used to be a Democrat, but I am voting for Ron Paul”
Come on, like pretending being something you guys are not is going to sway people of lefist persuasion to vote for an extreme right winger?
See, the problem with you right wingers is that you don’t understand us liberals. Pretending may work great with the lemming mentality of the right wing lockstep approach to do things. You can steer your whole right wing by just infiltrating and setting the pace, just like your boy Bush et al did by turning the conservative movement in this country into a religious wacko freak show.
Liberals… well, we are a completely different story, you can’t set the pace because for better or worse commanding the left field is akin to herding cats.
So, pleaaaaaase Ron Paul bots, just try harder next time. Or at least use a different MO. This whole “I am leftist” disclaimer is just too obvious.
shawn @ 19:
Now where have I heard that sales pitch before? I’m not very religious, but I have a friend named Jesus Christ I’d like to talk with you about.
Well. We could dig up the ghosts of Gus Hall or Eugene Debs to run.
But you better vote for the most likely to win who’s not a Republican.
Sorry. Its pretty simple. So save the invective about Hillary.
You sound like Ralphies otherwise.
Which is how we got to this wonderful state.
Ron @ 24:
What about, having the Dems fixing their own party first, and then try to tackle bigger fish like the Houses and the Presidency.
Sorry, but I am tired of people putting party over country. If the dems can’t even get their own house in order, as witness by the “amazing” job they have done as the majority party in both houses. Why should I trust them to be able to fix something orders of magnitude harder like the mess that Boosh et al has left us?
Jesus, so basically we have to chose between GOP and GOP-lite, and hope that if GOP-lite once elected decides to become friendlier to the democrat leftist base. Even though once elected there is little to no incentive for the GOP-lite faction to move an inch to the left, since they already have the power so why should they bother.
I mean, seriously are some of you that f*&king naive?
whizkid @ 43:
Wrong. The way we got to this wonderful state is by the Democrats running “moderates” who were too similar in principle to the other party. Gore and Kerry lost their elections; not Nader. If they had liberal platforms, they would’ve both won by landslides. Hillary will lose too, and it will be nobody’s fault but her own. Continue to displace blame and dismiss legitimate liberals by calling them “Ralphies”. It does not change reality.