Cafferty: If Iraq Is So Corrupt, Why Does U.S. Still Drop Billions Into It?
By Logan Murphy Sunday Dec 02, 2007 8:06pm
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Monday on The Situation Room, Jack Cafferty reads to a new report that shows that out of 185 nations, Iraq is the third most corrupt country in the world, which begs the question -- why are we still pumping billions of dollars into its failed and corrupt government?
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Because Bush wants to be #1 at something and he figures he and his cronies can bump Iraq up to the #1 corrupt nation in the world! Yippee, we're #1!!!
If you wanted to steal billions of dollars, what better place to send it then to a failed and corrupt government?
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Corruption is what they do! Get with the program. This administration awards coruption.
Don't look now but we are Number One.
The most corrupt, near bankrupt nation on the planet.
Sharon in Pennsylvania,got it right...
Iraq, get ready, a Presidential Medal of Freedom is coming your way.
Who was the guy who said Ron Paul was the only candidate who wants to end the war? What about Kucinich?!
I like how Wolf laughed during the monologue. Ass.
Mark @ News Corpse @ 2:
interesting thought you got there Mark....I was thinking the same thing the other day......we all know they will do anything to stay in power...I think this is going to get a lot uglier before it's over.
So Grover Norquist can drown the Federal Government in the bathtub and his corporate buddies can get rich quick on those government contracts before it all falls apart. They will then ensconce themselves safely in gated communities guarded by Blackwater.
Iraqs a money laundering machine. Dubai is the drier.
We are sending all of this money into Iraq to buy off the clerics and local militia leaders to get them to minimize their attacks on US forces.
Business as usual Bush-mafia style.
zgveritas @ 11:
And to sell them the latest in used surplus U.S. armaments and military gear no one wants to buy. Arm todays friends knowing damn well they will be tomorrows enemies. Profit first!
Iraq is the petri dish which the economic Libertarian wing of the Conservative movement wanted to demonstrate their theories. It was to be the Chicago School's answer to the success of the big government Marshall plan which reconstructed Europe after WWII. A free market utopia with the privatization of the public commons and no laws interfering with the "natural forces" of capitalism.
Iraq = the future the Libertarian and Republican parties have planned for all of us.
No matter who gets the cash at the other end of the pipeline that's sucking our pockets dry, they are unsavory characters, you can rest assured.
Snowball @ 13:
no laws interfering with the "natural flow" of oil.
"Why are we still pumping billions of dollars into its failed and corrupt government?"
Because we're stupid. We seem to think that we can run around the globe forcing "democracy" down peoples' throats - whether they like it or not.
They think we are stupid. The only stupid ones are the 30% that continue to turn a blind eye to the corruption.
doing the same thing over and over....expecting a different result.
Jack Cafferty- If you keep asking those common sense questions, the chimp is goin to have some splainnin to do.
Oil is this countries biggest problem. It doesn't help Big Oil occupies the White House.
As indicated above, Iraq was to be the example of what a total neocon remake could do.
And that's exactly what they got. They thought they were going to make an example all could be sold on, but the only winners are the corrupt profiteers.
It can't be said enough. The same people who favor enormous deficit spending (taxing your kids and grandkids) also favor Iraq as a model.
Democratic motto, free for the taking: Republicans favor saddling your kids and grandkids with a horrible tax burden.
USA.....#20
ISRAEL....#30
because we're stupid...
That says it all.
Jack, it's OBVIOUS, isn't it?
The government of Iraq was built by the Bush Crime Family.
Corrupt-Mother-Bitch gives birth to Corrupt-Evil-Dog-Spawn.
The old man STOLE BONES from a Native American grave site so he could be super-cool in his frat-boy-club... and was doing business with the Nazis.
Boy-George was head of the CIA... remember... Federal agents trafficking Cocaine into American cities to fund insurgent wars in Central America? Remember "somebody" negotiating with terrorists in Iran to hold American hostages until Carter's presidency came to an end? Remember the part about "covert agents" being involved in Kennedy's assassination (that nobody ever talks about?)
Then there was Big Brother Neal who got a piece of the Savings-And-Loan scandal, and prosecution of his involvement was squashed by "daddy-the-president." And don't forget Little Brother Jeb, who suckered the voters of Florida... and sent the election of 2000 to the Supremes.
Now we have "W" and his Wonder-Pig, Dead-Eye Dick, and their corporate occupation of Iraq, and nine billion dollars in cash lost, and 180,000 AK-47's "lost" in Iraq, and... well, you all know the rest of THIS story.
Because Halliburton, Bechtel, and these other corporations are making millions off of the deals and they have representatives or people who do their bidding in the highest levels of our government. Kind of a good ol'e boys club so to say. Consider the PNAC group. The Bilderberg Group. The Trilateral Commission. AIPAC and AEI. These guys kind of control our foreign policy and make a lot of money for themselves and their friends with the same interests, all at the expense of the average American tax payer. You and me. A little research never hurt anyone and thankfully we have the internet to do just that. It's a matter of taking advantage of it.
Jack for prez............nah....he makes too much sense.
Because our leadership is failed and corrupt
"Why?"
Dumb question. It's all about the contractors.
And why don't we have Habeas Corpus?
You have to ask?
because the money is going to friends of boosh! got it? Ask feinstein and the other war profiteers in the senate and congress and their enabling shills in the two major parties!
sorry, but as DeepThroat said, "Follow the money!"
Don't want to start a flame war, but:
beg the question - to assume the truth of the very point raised in a question.
Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006
In other words, an argumentative fallacy; It doesn't refer to questions that follow from previously introduced data It's just a pet peeve of mine. Ok, I feel better now.
This country has experienced a Coup D' Etat a number of times. One was JFK's shoot down. The other was the 2000 election. These guys are mean and have an appetite for a lot of money and power. Defeating them will be fun. Hope the prison system houses them before my days are done.
Ali @ 7:
I hope Wolfie Blitzkrieg is laughing in November 2008 when all his friends go down to defeat.
Neo-cons aren't stupid and they aren't wasting money (at least not their money). Iraq is their ultimate fantasy to play out their economic policies and the contractors aren't doing so bad either.
Orangutan. @ 25:
Millions? BILLIONS! I can't imagine who's NOT making big bucks off this war. State owned Chinese cigarette companies; Persian Gulf airlines; trucking companies in Indonesia transporting more, higher cost oil. The usual suspects are a tiny percentage of where the big bucks go.
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Are we really #20?
C'mon Bush.
You aren't trying.
Of course when have you ever had to?
"why are we still pumping billions of dollars into its failed and corrupt government?"
It's simple! That's where our airbases are.
How are we supposed to go to war with Russia and China without forward bases?
ICBMs are so 'before suitcase bombs.'
Orangutan. @ 33:
10-4 on that.
Actually it begs the question: "if Iraq is the third most corrupt country in the world what country is more corrupt than Iraq and is Satan himself the leader of it??"
Damian @ 37:
BushCo has been affective in one thing. They've buried that truth under a ton of lies, and MSM helped them along the way. And the daily flow of corruption keeps on spewing in. This country is dying from a thousand paper cuts.
the "less government" crowd is always ready for a 13 figure war on layaway so they can feel tough while they can't get their little soldier to stand at attention and they've taken to seperate beds with their wife
Wow! Just heard RANDI RHODES speak in Michigan. Give her WE BELIEVE speech a whirl. http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/ Explains the patriotic duty to IMPEACH.
So since we are pouring Billions of dollars into a country where we know 1/3 of them will disappear, does that make US the most corrupt country in the world?
Why say it's corrupt Iraqi politicians who are pocketing the money when US contractors can afford to pay their employees $100,000 a year?
Paul in LA @ 39:
no such thing as a suitcase bomb. look at the physics. well maybe with a really big suitcase-dumpster sized.
Actually, the reason we are still pumping billions of dollars into Iraq now may very well be to buy silence. Let's face it, we invaded illegally and without real reason (other than to depose Saddam) and in the process, have violated internationals laws and the Geneva Conventions. If a true independent Iraqi government were to happen, they could very well petition the UN and the International War Crimes Tribunal for action against our leaders. So...we don't want a real government there, we want a puppet government we can control and coerce.
tr @ 47 "no such thing as a suitcase bomb. look at the physics."
It's a figure of speech. With basically none of our billions of shipping containers coming into our ports being inspected, any port is a 'container bomb' away from very bad times.
But suitcase-sized dirty bombs are certainly possible, especially if you have some of the many hundreds of tons of high-explosives that Bushco released in Iraq, to hostiles unknown.
At least enough PETN, for instance, to blow up 16,000 airliners.
It's raises the question not begs the question. Begging the question is a philosophical term that means when an argument assumes the conclusion in the premises.
Mark @ News Corpse @ 2:
I've really started to wonder more and more whether KKKarl Rove and his dirty minions are all over this as well. Especially since the same corporations that own the MSM pretty much own the studios as well. I can just see these pricks behind the scenes making sure there's no settlement until next Oct. at the earliest.
when its all said and done , its still going to be the republicans tallying up the votes on diebold in the 08 elections, you think thiers going to be a honest count??? i dont!
tyree @ 52:
Diebold in California (1/9 of the US population) is restricted to a single workstation per polling site, and its votes have to be counted by hand.
Tyree, when will you update your paranoia? Because a lot has changed since 2006.
Paul in LA @ 53:
get real paul they cheated us in 2000 they cheated us in 04 , they allready know wich states they need to grab and your liveing in a flucking dream world!
nothings changed they will steal the 08 election and youll be scratching your over educated balls and wonder how you couldnt see it comeing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some people don't like the comparison of the Bush administration to the Nazis. But it is corrupt on the same level. High placed officials, high ranking military officers in their crisp uniforms, and everyone down the line were involved in a giant rip-off of Europe. So is the U.S. in Afghanastan and Iraq, and finally in the U.S.
Many people thought the Germans were superior and invincible. Americans were intimidated by their show of goose stepping and reknown for a better educated class of scientists, etc. But the bottom line was they were nothing but ignorant thugs, and they were doomed to failure. The Bush people are nothing but ignorant thugs and will meet the same fate. Have faith.
Why the hell do you silly bastards (cafferty and co.), continue to sit on those media stations and promote this bull shit to American people, when collectively, you could all just get up off your greedy asses and walk away from this continued night mare, that you, Rupert Murdock and all of these chicken shit ass holes promote and play games with day after day.
You are planning to F up the 2008 election if we don't get up off our asses and drag all of you disgusting idiots off these net works and trash all of you for this shit.
The complete domination of our media is so foul and disgusting, when there are no voices allowed in this game but the same old chosen few. It is getting so dame bad now that they are running from C-Span to their own networks and many of them have the unmitigated audacity to burden us further with two and three shows and it is for this reason I rarely watch TV as I listen to my XM Radio and Internet Media Blogs and reading the Nation and the Huffinton Post and yes of course my Power Station
You continue to play this sick games, while you promote this evil bastard in the white house and then pretend you are fed up with it. Bull shit
A real man or woman that really cares about this country and the American people would not take a job like this. They would rather starve and I know that would not happen to any of you suckers, with all the money you have already made, slipping and sliding
Jack Cafferty reads to a new report that shows that out of 185 nations, Iraq is the third most corrupt country in the world, which begs the question — why are we still pumping billions of dollars into its failed and corrupt government?
Because we're the number one most corrupt government? Because most of that money isn't going to end up in Iraq, and will instead be diverted to Bechtel, GE, Halibutron, KBR, Blackwater...? Because the Bush government is a bigger failure than the Iraqi government?
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H.R. 1234
While Ron Paule promises to bring them home tomorrow, Kucinich is acting to do so TODAY!
Find me a man who promises to do things tomorrow and I'll show you a man who can not keep his promise, TODAY!
QUESTION:
Why did Ron Paul vote to Table H.Res. 333?
Promises, promises, like Oaths of Office, should never be made by men capable of NOT keeping them. Congressman Paul took an Oath to defend and support the Constitution of the USA from enemies foreign or domestic, WITHOUT mental reservation OR purpose of evasion.
Now, let's see the Ronbots have fun with these facts.
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hows this paul in la , you think just because the powers who run this country let us win a pissy 06 election that the voteings not still rigged? they gave you liberman back , they let you have just enough seats in congress to be able to do nothing, they let you believe the next elections not rigged and you fell for it! they still got the corporations the news companys they place who ever they want in the states they need to win in, you think george w was placed in texas accidently, or jeb bush in florida accidently , or that were being forced to choose our candidates from hillery clinton or obamma, they know everything about the states that will decide the 08 election , and they paid millions to people to steal them its in the works , the only thing thats going to free this country will take blood in the streets ,
Who is first? The USA?
Patriot Scholar @ 48:
If by 'silence' you mean airbases, you are correct.
tyree @ 54 "get real paul they cheated us in 2000 they cheated us in 04 , they allready know wich states they need to grab and your liveing in a flucking dream world!"
You are living in the past, and probably doing nothing to change the conditions you decry.
California will have a legal election next year. That's the result of activism. If you know what states are going to be stolen (like your own), then you have a duty to work at stopping that.
But stay as you are, kiddo. Maybe we'll all fail and make your dystopic worldview more real, and then you can spit some more.
tyree @ 60 "they let you have just enough seats in congress to be able to do nothing.
If you think they intended to lose 2006, you have an even bigger problem with reality than I thought.
Idiotland @ 51 "I've really started to wonder more and more whether KKKarl Rove and his dirty minions are all over this as well. Especially since the same corporations that own the MSM pretty much own the studios as well."
The strike will be settled soon. The studios are facing a meltdown in January and they are not going to kiss off an entire season of ad income for Boy Wonder and his Gang of Has-beens.
"Corrupted" is just another word for free trade.
I'll paraprase:
"Anyone in my administration who leaked a covert agent" will be fired, says BUSH.
Every Presidential Candidate should be asked and explain: When should Congress practice Impeaching the President? Is IMPEACHMENT a necessary animal? Do they (candidates) welcome the expanded power of the executive branch; particularly the President and Vice President?
If Hillary becomes the President; Is Bill Clinton role like Dick Cheney is to George Bush?
What accomplishments for the people and for United States did they bring to deserve to be the next PRESIDENT of the United States?
What would they do to END the rampant corruption at Capitol Hill when they become President that they couldn't do now in their current position as public official?
"Iraq is the third most corrupt country in the world, which begs the question" ...Argh. Sorry to have to join the pile-on re: this - see http://begthequestion.info/.
30 years from now. all of our grandchildren will be laffing at us
Because that is how we are funneling it into Cheney's pockets. Iraq is just the middle man.
I'm a foreighn observer from The Netherlands.
To the Dearest "We The People of The United States of America". You're a class apart, yes you are, in this World today! You're so and such an all-mighty, powerfull, wealthy and brave and free and democratic people, you're so benovelent and peacefull and prosperos, that we, here in The Netherlands and I might say on behalf of all people of Europe, we do envy you so much, you're not real, you're really a class apart, you're the best and greater than us all!
But, yes there are some cynics over here, but, but, we (simply) cannot beleave that you "The We The People", can stay all that great and democratic and wealthy without THE LAW to depend up-on. Your civil-administration and politicians seems (to us) pretty lawless nowadays, from here it looks like "The Wild West" revisited. Were's your "HABEAS CORPUS"? were's your congressional oversight? Your free press? And why AREN'T the democrats, presidential contenders and otherwise, kicking the bloody jesus out of the Maffia-Mob that seems to rule your country? I haven't heard one democratic contender, besides Cucinich, about "RESTORING YOUR, THE "WE THE PEOPLE'S" CONSTITUTION!
America-America?
And now on top of that, that whole "CORRUPTION DEAL", you're the greatest, a class apart again! Compared with Iraq or any other country on this Earth, your simply the best, in another leage, far above any conceivable corruption-contender on this Planet. You, (The Bush Gang) have put in motion the greatest and best organised CORPOCRATE-FASCIST-CORRUPTION-SCEME ever, World-wide and backed by your Militairy-Industrial-Complex, the one Eisenhower warned about! Next to that, W. Bush and his Wild Bunch of POWER-PERVERTS created out of your tax-money Blackwater and other Private-Dissaster-Teams, who are now strategically employed all over The United States, to rescue you?
Sometimes I/we think, here in The Netherlands and in Europe, you're on the brink of losing it, of losing your-selves, losing the WE THE PEOPLE! Iff you let those criminals, those Bush Thugs rule you while the democrats in congress sit on theyr hands playing theyr electorate games like stars on ice, well, for sure you'll stay the best and greatest, because,
POWER CORRUPTS!
ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTE!
To be or not to be, that is the question!
Yours sincere, Observer.
Iraqi's government will become more and more corrupt, as long as the US occupation goes on and as long as the US throws money to support the occupation. The huge amount of cash we are injecting into Iraq is distorting any normalcy in government and is fostering a kleptocracy.
Our money caused the same distortion and corruption to happen in Vietnam during the war (i.e., South Vietnam's series of corrupt, helpless governments during the war).
WHY ?
Americans llike to do to do things like that.
You ask: "Iraq is the third most corrupt country in the world, which begs the question — why are we still pumping billions of dollars into its failed and corrupt government?"
The answer is simple. By privitizing the war, crisis capitalism gives new meaning to the phrase, "war profiteering," as the siphoning off of monies into corrupt hands is shared by the likes of Blackwater, Halliburton, and those Yankee entrepreneurs working behind the scenes oil deals, all "Friends of George Bush." The administration knew there would be corruption -- they were familiar with Chalabi, after all -- and they knew that they could take advantage of the corruption. Don't forget, Richard Clark and others have told how invasion of Iraq was on everyone's mind from the inauguration on, and 9/11 gave them the casus belli. One of the conclusions reached by Naomi Klein in her new book, The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism, as paraphrased in a Christopher Hayes piece in In These Times, is that: "The sole achievement of the U.S. occupation thus far has been the transfer of billions of dollars of public money into the private coffers of those companies that wished to get their hands on lucrative government contracts. This, to Klein's mind, is the whole raison d'etre behind the 'corporatist state.'" It was also the whole raison d'etre for the invasion.
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Paul in LA @ 64:
problem no sonny i dont have a problem you do, your delushional and an easy mark, they let you win just a small not worth thier while election, they knew exactly how many seats youd be allowed to get , they knew we had a republican fith collum in our party that would allways vote for the chimpys wants, whats changed ,whats changed tell me , so far all i get from you is your ten dollar words that have something to do with a persons mental capacity, you dont impress me with your big words , and your california mentality!
Alex Pearson @ 50:
Yes I should very like to point this fact out to the lot of you as well. Use care; else, your character will appear flawed in the eyes of the auditor!
the moron in charge is on tv,
Yes, go back and re-read #50 and #68 and the others, and sin no more. There's a perfectly valid point to be made, and it can be made without misusing the language.
The question is a good one, of course.
The bigger question is why are we pumping billions of dollars into a corrupt and failing government---our own?
“Why are we still pumping billions of dollars into its failed and corrupt government?”
Because the money is going to corrupt coalition partners and not just Iraqis. You ever see pallets of money before? This is a fleecing.
This is part of the undefined coup we americans are living under.
Following every coup in history has been immediately followed with plunder of treasure, more war and less civil liberty. Just like we are seeing here in America ever since the PNAC wet dream of a "new pearl harbour" was implimented.
We are living under an undefined coup of sorts.
Cheney, Rumsfield, Wolfowiz, and all the "neocons" are being mislabled. The civil war era called these types carptbaggers.
WW1 and WWll had names for these people also, they were pure and simple war profitteers. Our administration could give a fig for Democracy. It's finally a way for these losers to make an enormous amount of money. Especially President Bush, who, by the way, was an enept business man. He lost money on every thing he touched. Ironically, the Saudis bailed him out of his failed oil ventures. They are losing our money. Tax payers money. And this money is bring lost to no-bid blank checks to contractors. They might as well open up the National Tresury and divy up what's left.
I'm crazy with greif that the world community has not risen up and charged these odious men with war crimes. Send them to the Hague, and let the trials begin.
Cheney, Rumsfield, Wolfowiz, and all the "neocons" are being mislabled. The civil war era called these types carptbaggers.
WW1 and WWll had names for these people also, they were pure and simple war profitteers. Our administration could give a fig for Democracy. It's finally a way for these losers to make an enormous amount of money. Especially President Bush, who, by the way, was an enept business man. He lost money on every thing he touched. Ironically, the Saudis bailed him out of his failed oil ventures. They are losing our money. Tax payers money. And this money is being lost to no-bid blank checks to contractors. They might as well open up whats left of the National Tresury and divy it up.
The future doesn't matter to greedy men. I am ashmed that the Worlds Greatest Power is being let by evil, selfish men.
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