What was a serious problem for the White House has now doubled, and Jack Cafferty is all over it:
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Cafferty: A government watchdog group now says more than 10 million White House emails are missing. Citizens for the Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) described this massive hole in White House email records last April. At that time they thought the number was 5 million - Now they say it is more than 10 million emails. In one of the great understatements of this here Christmas season, the group says that this revised estimate - quote - highlights that this is a very serious and systematic problem at the White House - unquote. Both CREW and another private group called the National Security archive are suing the Bush administration to try to get information about all these missing emails. The White House email problems first came to light during special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald’s investigation into the leak of CIA officer Valerie Plame’s identity.
It’s worth noting what a critical time period these missing emails represent. Why it’s from March of 2003 to October 2005. That would include the start of the Iraq War right up through the aftermath of Katrina. As the director of one of these groups put it: It doesn’t get more historically valuable than that. Given the way the White House handled both the war and Katrina, it’s also quite convenient that suddenly this mountain of stuff is missing. By the way it’s against the law that these emails be destroyed or lost. They are supposed to be saved. The Presidential Records Act of 1978 mandates White House communications be preserved. Another law broken — Another example of nobody doing a damn thing about it.
Not to mention (but you know I will) that over 4 years of Rove’s emails were also illegally deleted from when the White House was illegally using RNC email servers to circumvent the Presidential Records Act. Whatever did become of Sen Leahy’s “Those e-mails are there, they just don’t want to produce them. We’ll subpoena them if necessary“? Is Cafferty right? Is there really nobody doing a damn thing about this anymore except for CREW and GWU’s National Security Archive?
Filed Under: Freedom of Information, Investigations, The Situation Room/Wolf Blitzer, White House
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They may say they have deleted them, but we all know the NSA has copies of all that traffic ;)
Sneeze While I PEE
Bastards. And thanks for posting this. We need to stay on top of all this.
I didn’t vote for him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKEDLy8rAwU
White House does alot of illegal shit but no one is doing
a damn thing about it…hey, Congress…hello! Congress…
you there? Wake up and do your frigin’ job Congress!
What I like to know is what am I fighting for?
Higher up say they support the troops, take away our benefits, their right wing TV and radio hosts bash us, and destroyed our image worldwide.
This doesn’t sound like the America I gave my oath to protect!
To paraphrase Rove, the bush administration has fucked the United States. They’ve fucked us like we’ve never been fucked before.
Thugs, thieves, and liars, the whole lot of ‘em.
It’s OK everyone! I found the back up. The government has been monitoring and saving all e-mail traffic sent through ATT and others, as well as voice and IM data for well over 6 years.
Everything’s OK!
Gekke @ 1:
Sorry missed your post before I submitted mine.
Yes but even with out that back up, e-mails leave one hell of a trail and the hard drive and back up drives would have to be scrubbed or over written in order to truly lose the files. It is hard to imagine none of the ten million can be found because some one hit the delete button once, inadvertantly. What a bullshit story from the WH.
It doesn’t matter that they deleted emails, because that data still exists on the hard drives. In the corporate world, Sarbanes-Oxley mandated that all computer hard drives be saved. If the hard drives still exist, the emails are still on them.
well…..one can still hope….but I ain’t holdin my breath…..and yet,one can hope.
dugg it
Scott @ 9:
Sorry to be redundant. I missed the earlier posts.
I can understand a few here and a few there over 7 years….but ten million…..nope,ain’t buyin it
Why? Why are the Dems not holding hearings every day? Screw breaks, elections and weekends. Why should I even bother to vote Dem? If Congress is going to keep doing nothing why should i not just vote reb and let the whole system break down so we can dust off that constitution thingy once the fires are out? I am being honest when i ask this… what the hell are we doing backing the same damn people who did nothing to stop it in the first place?
………what are they hiding………………..?
L.A. Confidential @ 3:
lol L.A., that is one truly appalling tuber ;) thanks for sharing :)
James @ 14:
Um… because we’re stupid?
This circle of corruption will never end, just goes round and round.
What really gets me is all the Bushies out there that think this is perfectly acceptable!
“Cafferty should have to read every one of them when they’re found” -Ronnie, Horsham,PA
“I have no idea what Ronnie means.” -Cafferty
“He just wants you to read 10 million emails.” -Blitzer
Ha ha! It’s called ’snark’ Wolfie!
Santa, please deliver an impeachment. I have been good.
sadsack @ 18:
What gets me is how fast it will become unacceptable to those same Bushies the instant a progressive gets elected.
Is it even a surprise anymore?
L.A. Confidential @ 3:
Thanks, I still hurt from this one.
Now if it wasn’t so true, if he weren’t our presdimwit, if I didn’t care about America, I would feel better about laughing at this idiot.
Thanks for a great link!
L.A. Confidential @ 3:
That is friggin’ hilarious dude. And I needed that laugh :)
Big deal, what’s all the fuss about?
Just pass out, after an overdose of Viagra, with your dick on the ‘delete’ key, and Buh Bye, 10 meg worth of e-mails.
If could happen to anybody….with an ED problem….check out Cheney….it couldn’t be his wife, she’s always got a hard on….god damn, it could be her.
Who else has access to the White House e-mail system? Not Leezzaa, they took away her privileges. Preposterous Putz don’t know how. Perino just acts dumb, she too smart to leave her fingerprints on anything, ‘Berto’s exiled to Cancun. Feith’s back in shul, Scooter’s skating, Bolton’s making the talk show circuit, he don’t talk English, anyway, Wolfowitz has been in a Swiss clinic, getting rid of his dose, Harriet Miers is locked up in the basement, they don’t have a butler…..who coulda done it?
The only one left is Laura, she’s quiet, she’s sneaky. She’s the one.
Gekke @ 1:
Hey hey I’m going to quote myself:)
If the NSA do not have these emails then it beg’s the question how can the NSA monitor rogue regimes abroad when it cannot even monitor the rogue regimes at home ;)
If the NSA ‘lost’ their copies, too, you can be damned sure the Chinese and the Russkies have theirs on tap.
Mark:
Because, as we know, travelgate was just as important as lies about the war, lies about outing a CIA agent, lies about Katrina, and lies about obstructing justice with political-based prosecutions and firings of prosecutors.
And we all know, there were 10 million missions documents about Travelgate.
Where the hell do these wingnuts come from? A place where lead is used as a food sweetener for kids?
I think the real surprise will be if anything ever comes from all this. Some of the Dems we elected in 06 do not value the views of their constituents. As someone stated above, there should be meetings every day of the week on these abuses.
Laws? What laws? We don’t need no stinking laws!
Preacher Boob @ 25:
Ha! Her permawood matches Dick’s 3-foot long vagina.
The big question is what is the penalty for breaking this law?
We hear all the time that this administration does illegal things. If anyone else in the country so blatantly and casually broke the law they’d be put away so long their great grandchildren would be grown up and wed.
What’s the penalty for these crimes and who’s going to pay it?
Why the caps on the headline?
Hell, the White House ‘lost’* over 100 BILLION DOLLARS!!!
Don’t that rate a notice on page 6, at least?
*Just like GM used to ‘lose’ new Cadillacs at the factory. Out the door, one piece at a time.
Yet another impeachable/prosecutable offense. Wherever bush lays down his head tonight, he needs to thank his lucky stars that he has his gaurdian angels Pelosi, Hoyer and Reid covering his 6 O’clock for him, making sure he can never be held accountable for his crimes against the nation.
ShelaghC @ 32:
The suckers who are still paying taxes to this corrupt regime, that’s who’s gonna pay.
Save your energy, Jack. Bush snuck a signing statement into The Constitution that says he doesn’t have to obey the law. It’s optional. Also stacked the Supreme Court with hatchetmen, so he can’t be sued by CREW.
Well, hey man, “the absence of evidence isn’t …”
Oh wait, it is.
James @ 14:
When things get bad enough, the revolution (political) will happen in two phases. First, the repukes will become an irrelevant minority, which is on the verge of happening already.
Part two will be a battle within the democratic party to “purge” it of the DLC republican-lite types, that still control the power structure within. Once phase one is completed, the people will not tolerate a democratic party that still panders to corporate interests at the people’s expense.
Either that, or we will all just be totally screwed.
Pericles @ 36:
You can’t sue the President, that’s not packing.
It’s still a 5-4 Court. Way things are looking, Democrats will be filling the retirees seats in 2009.
• Also, Thomas, Scalia, and Kennedy all violated their oaths of office when they did not recuse themselves from Bush v. Gore. They can be impeached, and disbarred (sometime after 2008).
NoGWBpolicyleftinplacesays @ 38 “a battle within the democratic party to “purge” it of the DLC republican-lite types, that still control the power structure within.”
You are dreaming. The DLC is very powerful, not going to be removed any time soon, and they will most likely have a President in 2009.
At which point, hopefully the Progressives will still have the Speaker’s seat, and we can continue to moderate the DLC’s effect.
Cheney’s been feeling the heat on this e-mail thing, he’s getting out of town for the holidays, on a hunting trip.
What a greedy bastard he is. He got Bush to put a signing statement on the last budget appropriation that puts a $100K bounty on lawyers, and he’s gone hunting for Christmas.
His 401K is already the size of Latvia’s GDP, but you now what they say about the super rich, ‘More is never enough’.
Paul @ 34 “gaurdian angels.”
You keep on saying that, but the real question is who do YOU send to Washington, that is so pure? Your Representative supports impeachment?
It’s not Pelosi’s fault that she can count.
Paul in LA @ 39:
If they prove Ohio was stolen, can they impeach Roberts and Alito too? Those two corporate-fascist ass-kissers could be around for the next 40 years screwing the american people.
Missing e-mails going back to 2003.
Iran NIE says nothing going on in Iran since 2003.
See the common element? SOmeone appears to hae known the evidence for Iraq and Iran wasn’t there, and deleted it.
It means not only were there war crimes, but a conspiracy to destroy evidence. Recall, the lawyers were claiming the information was “priileged” — it should have been shielded. WHy would they then create a backup system for e-mail; but delete those e-mails that should have been shielded?
The only reasonable conclusion; The e-mail was being hidden, bt someone on the WH counsel’s office realized that the claim of provildge would not succeed, hid the e-mail, then destroyed it.
Sounds like war crimes evidence. How many formely assigned WH counsel have trouble sleeping in Maryland?
ShelaghC @ 32:
Don’t be silly. Now if they were caught smoking marijuana while deleting government records, why THEN there would be a strong prosecution… /sarcasm
Uh, come to think of it, I have to add that if they were a junior aide caught smoking marijuana while deleting records, why THEN…
Paul in LA @ 37:
Wrong, evidence that should be there, but is missing, is admissible: Evidence destruction in re alleged war crimes.
James @ 14 “If Congress is going to keep doing nothing why should i not just vote reb and let the whole system break down
Yes, why shouldn’t you have members of your family die in riots?
Paul in LA @ 39:
Paul, didn’t you hear. Impeachment is off the table. If the DNC will not imepach now, why will they ever impeach?
War Crimes @ 46:
It was