Didn’t Murdoch coin the “liberal media” myth?

So, when can i set my tivo to record the nightly episodes of HercuBush!

As long as they associate their media with George W Bush, the “Destroyer in Chief”, the Democrats will do fine.

In the last 7 years, the dollar has declined significantly and this decline in value is having an impact globally. During the 2008 election, just remind voters that the Republicans and Bush are responsible for the deficit and the decline in the dollar. This will push moderate Republicans to vote for Democrats because the only thing Republicans care about is MONEY.

Liberal media in action -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....&ord=1

Hey guys! Fron the Continent, Merry Christmas to all of you. It was an emotional year. It could’ve been better, but it won’t be as long as the asshole in Chief is still there.

I’m just not in mood tonight.

it would be interesting to monitor these stations to see what kind of coverage they offer during the election

But Nicole, you already KNOW what kind of coverage they’ll offer, and if you encourage people to “monitor” them, you’ll only increase the ratings and enrichen more right-wing nuts. Surely there are better things to do. :-)

Coffins draped in flags @ 3:

As long as they associate their media with George W Bush, the “Destroyer in Chief”, the Democrats will do fine.

In the last 7 years, the dollar has declined significantly and this decline in value is having an impact globally. During the 2008 election, just remind voters that the Republicans and Bush are responsible for the deficit and the decline in the dollar. This will push moderate Republicans to vote for Democrats because the only thing Republicans care about is MONEY.

CDIF:
You strike me as an optimist - believing that voters pay attention to things like the deficit and the decline in the dollar.

Liberal means not conforming to America is Jesus narrative.

Ron Paul was correct when he said we were becoming a “soft” facist state. However you feel about the man, he’s not a phony baloney like most of the other presidential candidates.

I know . . . he wants to take away the Social Security funds that don’t exist.

This background on Bass is very telling indeed. It is just another example of the Bush Administration’s moves to eventually control all media sources just like any other oppressive regime. It is funny, when the average person in America thinks about dictatorship or some other form of oppressive Government its almost as if they automatically think that those regimes took total control in one day. In most cases, however a oppressive regime takes control a little at a time.  They will pass a law once in power to take some minor rights away at first, then they take control of the media and then take all of your rights until they control it all.  This is how Hitler did it.    The only exception to this would be a military backed coup.

Blue Lensman @ 7:

Coffins draped in flags @ 3:

As long as they associate their media with George W Bush, the “Destroyer in Chief”, the Democrats will do fine.

In the last 7 years, the dollar has declined significantly and this decline in value is having an impact globally. During the 2008 election, just remind voters that the Republicans and Bush are responsible for the deficit and the decline in the dollar. This will push moderate Republicans to vote for Democrats because the only thing Republicans care about is MONEY.

CDIF:
You strike me as an optimist - believing that voters pay attention to things like the deficit and the decline in the dollar.

Most people exist in a near subconscious dream state. They eat, mate and sleep and during the day push the buttons that release the sucrose tablets which are now made in China.

Who has been advocating the relaxation of media ownership?

Blue Lensman @ 7:

Coffins draped in flags @ 3:

As long as they associate their media with George W Bush, the “Destroyer in Chief”, the Democrats will do fine.

In the last 7 years, the dollar has declined significantly and this decline in value is having an impact globally. During the 2008 election, just remind voters that the Republicans and Bush are responsible for the deficit and the decline in the dollar. This will push moderate Republicans to vote for Democrats because the only thing Republicans care about is MONEY.

CDIF:
You strike me as an optimist - believing that voters pay attention to things like the deficit and the decline in the dollar.

Your right. Most voters do not notice the dollar, the deficits and more than likely won’t even notice any take over of the media by the Bush regime. I’ve pointed all of this out to many people and get this blank stare in return. I see the weakening dollar first hand as I import a lot of luxury chocolates from Europe. In 2005 my favorite chocolates cost around $55 a box. Now, its closer to $100.

it would be interesting to monitor these stations to see what kind of coverage they offer during the election and what impact, if any, it might have.

I think it will be like a bunch of Baby-FOX’S. Licking at the blood of the people of the U.S.

Joe O. @ 12:

Blue Lensman @ 7:

Coffins draped in flags @ 3:

As long as they associate their media with George W Bush, the “Destroyer in Chief”, the Democrats will do fine.

In the last 7 years, the dollar has declined significantly and this decline in value is having an impact globally. During the 2008 election, just remind voters that the Republicans and Bush are responsible for the deficit and the decline in the dollar. This will push moderate Republicans to vote for Democrats because the only thing Republicans care about is MONEY.

CDIF:
You strike me as an optimist - believing that voters pay attention to things like the deficit and the decline in the dollar.

Your right. Most voters do not notice the dollar, the deficits and more than likely won’t even notice any take over of the media by the Bush regime. I’ve pointed all of this out to many people and get this blank stare in return. I see the weakening dollar first hand as I import a lot of luxury chocolates from Europe. In 2005 my favorite chocolates cost around $55 a box. Now, its closer to $100.

Green Grapes from Brazil just hit 8 bucks a pound at my big city downtown grocery store. Fruit from the US is reasonable but anything imported is a problem for my food budget.

Joe O. @ 12:

Blue Lensman @ 7:

Coffins draped in flags @ 3:

As long as they associate their media with George W Bush, the “Destroyer in Chief”, the Democrats will do fine.

In the last 7 years, the dollar has declined significantly and this decline in value is having an impact globally. During the 2008 election, just remind voters that the Republicans and Bush are responsible for the deficit and the decline in the dollar. This will push moderate Republicans to vote for Democrats because the only thing Republicans care about is MONEY.

CDIF:
You strike me as an optimist - believing that voters pay attention to things like the deficit and the decline in the dollar.

Your right. Most voters do not notice the dollar, the deficits and more than likely won’t even notice any take over of the media by the Bush regime. I’ve pointed all of this out to many people and get this blank stare in return. I see the weakening dollar first hand as I import a lot of luxury chocolates from Europe. In 2005 my favorite chocolates cost around $55 a box. Now, its closer to $100.

Absolutely … Americans are asleep on the couch, they have become slave in what they think is their freedom. I just left New Zealand (Tauranga) after swinging through Tonga on my way back to Asia. It cost twice as much now as it did four years ago. My friend in NZ thanked mr. bush for switching all of the US farms to Bio-Fuels, he has a Dairy Farm in NZ and milk prices have doubled because of the Bio-Fuel jump. But Bio-Fuels wont cure anything, they still keep us from weening ourselves off of Carbon Engines.

The incest between these ‘billionaire’ freaks of the right wing is amazing.

And people are surprised that they cruise airport restrooms for sex…

Crony Capitalism at it’s finest.

With the falling dollar I didn’t see that many ‘quality’ imported items with huge sales going on.

Sure, plenty of crap from China on sale but from my small amount of walking the stores (and not buying much) I didn’t see too damned many sales this year. Was it just me? I do not enter Wal*Fart or Sam’s Crap Club ever…

I may go out this afternoon just to see what’s going on. I was shocked at the empty parking lots that I saw.

Dick’s - empty. Barnes & Noble - empty. Target - FULL. Meijer’s - empty. Pet Smart - empty. (Well, all empty were nearly empty) Nice to see people voting with what remains of their wallets?

PinkyLeftBrain @ 18:

With the falling dollar I didn’t see that many ‘quality’ imported items with huge sales going on.

Sure, plenty of crap from China on sale but from my small amount of walking the stores (and not buying much) I didn’t see too damned many sales this year. Was it just me? I do not enter Wal*Fart or Sam’s Crap Club ever…

I may go out this afternoon just to see what’s going on. I was shocked at the empty parking lots that I saw.

Dick’s - empty. Barnes & Noble - empty. Target - FULL. Meijer’s - empty. Pet Smart - empty. (Well, all empty were nearly empty) Nice to see people voting with what remains of their wallets?

Perhaps Target is the first to offer the dreaded “after Christmas sales”..

The economy was being driven by credit cards constantly being refreshed from home refis . . . value of the house went up, mom and dad refied and paid off the credit card debt and then . . . went shopping.

That has ended . . . now the act II . . . the credit card bubble.

YAY! Dukes of Hazzard, Bass Fishing, NASCAR, and 700 Club on EVERY channel!!!

If you want the LowDown on Which Large Corporations the support the Republican machine is go here. Hightower give you the lowdown on who owns what and how they contribute to the American-Public-BASHERS.

I don’t understand. What’s the difference? Murdoch? Bass? They’re both fascists.

The Leftist meme has become “all the media outlets are owned by corporations.” I have yet to hear a single Leftist defend the assumptions implicit in the argument, namely:

1) All corporations are conservative; and

2) The content of news outlets is controlled more by who owns it than who runs it.

The first is clearly and obviously false. The corporation is by far the most common form of organizing a business in the US; unless you’re claiming that liberals never engage business, you’d need to prove that the corporation in question is active only in conservative causes in order to establish your case.

The second is probably even further off track than the first. The newsroom tends to be several layers below the largest investor, who is frequently not even slightly involved in the running of the business. Editorial decisions are made by editors, not by owners.

Every serious, objective analysis of American news for the past 40 years confirms that in actual practice it is routinely, significantly, and nearly uniformly liberal in its staffing, it’s content, and it’s editorial slant. The continued attempt to deny this fact based on such a thoroughly lame argument as “it’s owned by a corporation” merely serves to illustrate the depth of Liberal denial.

Does this mean they’re bring back American Gladiators?

Evil Won (backward) @ 15:

Joe O. @ 12:

Blue Lensman @ 7:

Coffins draped in flags @ 3:

CDIF:
You strike me as an optimist - believing that voters pay attention to things like the deficit and the decline in the dollar.

Your right. Most voters do not notice the dollar, the deficits and more than likely won’t even notice any take over of the media by the Bush regime. I’ve pointed all of this out to many people and get this blank stare in return. I see the weakening dollar first hand as I import a lot of luxury chocolates from Europe. In 2005 my favorite chocolates cost around $55 a box. Now, its closer to $100.

Absolutely … Americans are asleep on the couch, they have become slave in what they think is their freedom. I just left New Zealand (Tauranga) after swinging through Tonga on my way back to Asia. It cost twice as much now as it did four years ago. My friend in NZ thanked mr. bush for switching all of the US farms to Bio-Fuels, he has a Dairy Farm in NZ and milk prices have doubled because of the Bio-Fuel jump. But Bio-Fuels wont cure anything, they still keep us from weening ourselves off of Carbon Engines.

Agreed. To prove this point further, Al Jazeera English detailed all of the aspects of the declining value of the dollar in their “People and Power” segment on Dec. 19 and how everyone in the world, except for Americans see it. Americans are asleep on the couch and they will continue to be as long as the Bush regime continues to try and control the media.

Al Jazeera English’s “People and Power”. Death of the Dollar Part 1

http://youtube.com/watch?v=54MUm2P1jOU

Death of the Dollar Part 2

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HdrNbhdl7uU

Plumb Bob @ 24:

Laughable. Here is the argument, no implicit assumptions are necessary.

1. Whoever owns a news outlet controls those that run the outlet.
2. Whoever runs the outlet determines the content.

Exhibit A: Faux News

Care to claim that FN is just another liberal media outlet? I didn’t think so.

FOX is State Sponsored TV.
Peddling hyper reality.
Equity firms owning media what a disgrace.

Plumb Bob @ 24:

The Leftist meme has become “all the media outlets are owned by corporations.” I have yet to hear a single Leftist defend the the assumptions implicit in the inane, straw-man argument, namely:

FIFY

Plumb Bob @ 24

It’s almost impossible to not call you crazier than a shit house rat, but do you really believe that the people who own the media don’t control it’s content? Or are you just a running dog for Rupert Murdoch?

As far as I know, Faux News is the only media outlet that went to court to defend its right to sling bullshit.

http://www.projectcensored.org.....05/11.html

One of the stations is here where I live (Kansas City), and to be quite honest, they couldn’t make it much worse. The final straw for me with this station was watching the morning show before work and having them cite Drudge like it was a credible source.

Blue Lensman @ 27:

Plumb Bob @ 24:

Here is the argument, no implicit assumptions are necessary.

1. Whoever owns a news outlet controls those that run the outlet.
2. Whoever runs the outlet determines the content.

Exhibit A: Faux News

Care to claim that FN is just another liberal media outlet? I didn’t think so.

About what I expected to receive in reply.

1) Completely unresponsive to the first point. You have yet to establish that any of the owners of media corporations are, in fact, conservative, aside from Rupert Murdoch. The argument is simply bad-smelling air until you do that.

2) Displays a 6th-grade level of understanding concerning the working of major corporations. No chief administrator worth even a tenth of his bloated salary would be caught dead micro-managing the actions of subordinates 4, 5, or 6 levels below them. The editorial choices of the newsroom are controlled by the owner if, and only if, the owner personally decides to interfere with the decisions of the editor; and most professional editors really would consider that interference, and would probably resign if it happened more than once or twice.

As to “Faux” News, aside from the sophomoric and limp attempt at comedy which substitutes a word pronounced “Foh” for a word pronounced “Focks,” you, I, the mailman, and my 10-year-old stepson all know that Fox News is the stand-alone exception to the general rule about the slant of news organizations (you call it conservative, and anyone who’s actually read research on the subject calls it moderate); so you also know that you’re attempting to divert attention from the facts that you know perfectly well prove my point.

People interested in truth don’t do that; people trying to spin inconvenient facts do. Allow me to suggest that you’d probably feel better about yourself if you deliberately chose to be one of the former rather than one of the latter.

Reporters Blow Whistle on FOX News for squashing report on BGH in milk.

People interested in truth don’t do that…

Plumb Bob @ 33:

Blue Lensman @ 27:

Plumb Bob @ 24:

Here is the argument, no implicit assumptions are necessary.

1. Whoever owns a news outlet controls those that run the outlet.
2. Whoever runs the outlet determines the content.

Exhibit A: Faux News

Care to claim that FN is just another liberal media outlet? I didn’t think so.

About what I expected to receive in reply.

1) Completely unresponsive to the first point. You have yet to establish that any of the owners of media corporations are, in fact, conservative, aside from Rupert Murdoch. The argument is simply bad-smelling air until you do that.

2) Displays a 6th-grade level of understanding concerning the working of major corporations. No chief administrator worth even a tenth of his bloated salary would be caught dead micro-managing the actions of subordinates 4, 5, or 6 levels below them. The editorial choices of the newsroom are controlled by the owner if, and only if, the owner personally decides to interfere with the decisions of the editor; and most professional editors really would consider that interference, and would probably resign if it happened more than once or twice.

As to “Faux” News, aside from the sophomoric and limp attempt at comedy which substitutes a word pronounced “Foh” for a word pronounced “Focks,” you, I, the mailman, and my 10-year-old stepson all know that Fox News is the stand-alone exception to the general rule about the slant of news organizations (you call it conservative, and anyone who’s actually read research on the subject calls it moderate); so you also know that you’re attempting to divert attention from the facts that you know perfectly well prove my point.

People interested in truth don’t do that; people trying to spin inconvenient facts do. Allow me to suggest that you’d probably feel better about yourself if you deliberately chose to be one of the former rather than one of the latter.

I’m not seeing any “point” being made. Just alot of words strewn out in such a way to make the reader feel less intelligent than you. Much like one of those frilled lizards in Australia, you’re just walking into an opposing forum with your dewlap extended pretending to be more than what you are. But I respect your guile if not the methods. If we found a way to have a dialog where it’s more than essentially “you’re stupid for thinking this” maybe we’d have some actually have some progress.

And as far as liberal denial. You probably think Iraq was a good idea, FEMA did a bang up job in Nawlins, Larry Craig really does have a wide stance, Alberto Gonzales didn’t try to turn the DOJ into an arm of the GOP, and that Iran has nukes pointed at the Statue of Liberty.

Plumb Bob @ 33:

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You have yet to establish that any of the owners of media corporations are, in fact, conservative, aside from Rupert Murdoch. The argument is simply bad-smelling air until you do that.
….

I’m sorry, but if you’re still debating who owns the media, you need to get some pretty basic information. I suggest The Columbia Journalism Review. Check out The Walt Disney Corporation, Viacom, General Electric, The Tribune Corp. See what they own.

If you really think there is any debate about whether Sumner Redstone, The McCormick Family, or a defense contractor/energy giant are “conservative,” it becomes painfully obvious you don’t know what you are talking about. NewsCorp may be the only example you’re aware of, but it’s hardly unique.

Somebody told me the other day “Cheer up! Things could be worse.”

So I cheered up, and sure enough, things got worse.

Coffins draped in flags @ 3:

As long as they associate their media with George W Bush, the “Destroyer in Chief”, the Democrats will do fine.

In the last 7 years, the dollar has declined significantly and this decline in value is having an impact globally. During the 2008 election, just remind voters that the Republicans and Bush are responsible for the deficit and the decline in the dollar. This will push moderate Republicans to vote for Democrats because the only thing Republicans care about is MONEY.

Although I agree that clueless people who dont understand money will tend to vote democratic this time around…..To think that democratic or republican congresspeople have anything other than absolutely no ability to do anything…with regards to the declining dollar!

(exept Ron Paul who wants to return to a gold based currency that is issued or “circulated” by we the people…and not controlled by european banking familys)

First of all it is a private group of european bankers (the ones who create the euro dollar) who is the fed…and they dont answer to congress! (look it up)

second of all the “American” dollar? federal reserve… (fiat currency)…used to be worth something because there was an economy that “backed” it…and now all the (traitorous)corporations have moved overseas. and our economy has gone with it.

…in other words, no longer do we exchange goods for goods…

whatever it was that made the dollar great, (our manufacturing base) is gone. (although the powerful ones remain and continue to infest our political system) … they manifest themselves as a false left right paradigm that unfortunately ensnares the average sleepy american and well…Ignorance+partisanship=prejudice

our money is being printed out of thin air and exported for oil and cheap chinese goods…

Saudi Arabia and China have enough of our money…

Plumb Bob @ 24:

The Leftist meme has become “all the media outlets are owned by corporations.” I have yet to hear a single Leftist defend the assumptions implicit in the argument, namely:

1) All corporations are conservative; and

2) The content of news outlets is controlled more by who owns it than who runs it.

The first is clearly and obviously false. The corporation is by far the most common form of organizing a business in the US; unless you’re claiming that liberals never engage business, you’d need to prove that the corporation in question is active only in conservative causes in order to establish your case.

The second is probably even further off track than the first. The newsroom tends to be several layers below the largest investor, who is frequently not even slightly involved in the running of the business. Editorial decisions are made by editors, not by owners.

Every serious, objective analysis of American news for the past 40 years confirms that in actual practice it is routinely, significantly, and nearly uniformly liberal in its staffing, it’s content, and it’s editorial slant. The continued attempt to deny this fact based on such a thoroughly lame argument as “it’s owned by a corporation” merely serves to illustrate the depth of Liberal denial.

Is your real name Stuart Pitt? The furniture store guy who does those campy commercials where he wears a crown and calls himself the “Sofa King?”

Cuz when I read your post I thought you were Sofa King Stu Pitt.