Media rigs the elections.

The popularity of a candidate among the people has LITTLE to do with the popularity of a candidate whom the network is not bankrolling (or vis versa). The MSM could easily be termed a JOKE, but I feel that would slight the atrocity that the MSM has TRULY become within our nation. He who controls the media, controls EVERYTHING.

Priceless.

Yes, just further proof that the corporate media wants total control of government via “elections”.

I read your blog when I was a obama supporter and can continue to read it now as a paul supporter, as you’re not only devoted to getting democrats elected like daily kos no matter how weak they are on the issues but you stick to the issues.

thank you.

My sincerest apologies to the phrase “Fair and Balanced”

p.s. FRIST !

AARGH!

I can’t stand the guy but they sure shouldn’t exclude him. Another reason to hate Rupert Murdick.

And the Dems discount Dennis.

This damn sElection is not a debate on ideas, its a rigged beauty and wealth contest.

So FOX claims that democratic candidates are afraid to debate on FOX yet FOX is to chicken shit to have a republican with a totally different view than the usual chickenhawks. Look who’s scared now. Pretty hilarious.

He’ll probably raise another boat load of cash

I’d say certainly, not probably. There’s no better tool for raising money from paranoid delusional conspiracy theorists–i.e. Paulbots–than having high profile idiots take actions that feed into and justify those paranoid delusions.

chlorocardium @ 8:

And the Dems discount Dennis.

This damn sElection is not a debate on ideas, its a rigged beauty and wealth contest.

and those of you who can’t support ron paul should do something about it. look at what we’ve done for ron paul and get behind kucinich.

Even though Ron Pauls politics are despicable, he is representative of the modern GOP. Racist, misogynist, and authoritarian. He does differ in that he is an isolationist and they are all imperial warmongers. But if I was one of the other gooper candidates I’d want him gone too. He cleans their clock. They as a group are the filthiest pandering whores I can remember in a race.

btw, it’s not the debate(the debate is on ABC the day before, including ron paul), but a “forum” on fox news.
it’s still sponsored by the republican party, so the outrage is justified.

I don’t get it- he would be great for ratings…he has people watching him and raising money- I thought that was something that even Fox liked…

moondancer @ 12:

Even though Ron Pauls politics are despicable, he is representative of the modern GOP. Racist, misogynist, and authoritarian. He does differ in that he is an isolationist and they are all imperial warmongers. But if I was one of the other gooper candidates I’d want him gone too. He cleans their clock. They as a group are the filthiest pandering whores I can remember in a race.

you sir, should go to dailykos, they like this kind of bullshit there. disagree honestly or shut up.

“Wow, what’s up with that? For a guy raising the type of money he is—I don’t understand how they can justify his exclusion”

I write them every hour. heh

:twisted:

Even C&L has fun with Paul. Here’s the index categories on the let side of the front page:

# Republican Party (631)
* Fred Thompson (52)
* Katherine Harris (13)
* Ken Mehlman/RNC (16)
* Mitt Romney (70)
* Newt Gingrich (28)
* Rick Santorum (32)
* Rudy Giuliani (169)
* Tom Delay (34)

Hmmm, who’s missing? If you notice, all Ron Paul stories are tagged as uncategorised, or something else, but never under ‘Ron Paul’. Evil conspiracy hatched in a dark lair, or just good old fashioned loathing of a guy that makes some people’s blood boil?

enigma4ever @ 14:

I don’t get it- he would be great for ratings…he has people watching him and raising money- I thought that was something that even Fox liked…

It’s called framing the debate. They don’t want they’re sheep to hear anything that Paul has to offer. They may actually take notice.

Ed @ 17:

Even C&L has fun with Paul. Here’s the index categories on the let side of the front page:

…
Hmmm, who’s missing? If you notice, all Ron Paul stories are tagged as uncategorised, or something else, but never under ‘Ron Paul’. Evil conspiracy hatched in a dark lair, or just good old fashioned loathing of a guy that makes some people’s blood boil?

I write them every hour. heh

:twisted:

Rob J @ 10:

He’ll probably raise another boat load of cash

I’d say certainly, not probably. There’s no better tool for raising money from paranoid delusional conspiracy theorists–i.e. Paulbots–than having high profile idiots take actions that feed into and justify those paranoid delusions.

My theory is that people trying to send money to evangelical preacher Luis Palau, but those donors just can’t read.

But what’s the difference. Both Palau and Paul are seen as prophets, in a sense. Or at least they’re both able to save souls.

Yep, those leaping lizards have another enemy .

Ron Paul.

Geez.

Ed @ 17:

Even C&L has fun with Paul. Here’s the index categories on the let side of the front page:

# Republican Party (631)
* Fred Thompson (52)
* Katherine Harris (13)
* Ken Mehlman/RNC (16)
* Mitt Romney (70)
* Newt Gingrich (28)
* Rick Santorum (32)
* Rudy Giuliani (169)
* Tom Delay (34)

Hmmm, who’s missing? If you notice, all Ron Paul stories are tagged as uncategorised, or something else, but never under ‘Ron Paul’. Evil conspiracy hatched in a dark lair, or just good old fashioned loathing of a guy that makes some people’s blood boil?

Not really sure what point you’re trying to make but if you read your own list, it’s not just Paul they excluded as far as presidential candidates go. I think your conspiracy has no wheels. Even McCain and The Huckster aren’t on the list.

“I challenge them on the notion that they are conservative.”

It’s true, they aren’t conservative. They’re Conservative™, as in the branding campaign pitched by Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Grover Norquist, Newt Gingrich, etc.

Fox News is just the propaganda wing of the GOP.

This election? All elections these days are a choice of which corporate sponsored puppet they want you to choose.
Look at the Dean Scream. Dean’s grin is obvious, he just wasn’t in the pocket of the controllers. The general obviously was. As was Kerry.
Now, what’s the difference between Guiliani and Hillary? I think if elected both would conduct the corporate policy they’ve been given, and the media obeisance to them is obvious. There might be some differences on domestic spending, but the borders would still be open, NPP would go forward, and we wouldn’t be any closer to a national health plan.

This is a script and the sponsors get really upset when we deviate from it.

If we really wanted neutrality, give the debates back to the League of Women Voters.

chlorocardium @ 8:

And the Dems discount Dennis.

This damn sElection is not a debate on ideas, its a rigged beauty and wealth contest.

Ron Paul scares the hell out of the Globalists.

On paul cultists; this morning a caller on CSPAN said she wanted Social Security off budget and didn’t want politicians fooling with it and she had another fairly liberal position when the host asked her who she was supporting she said Ron Paul. It as if these people see in paul whatever they want to see. Even Glenn Greenwald has defended paul against “smears.”

And Faux can exclude him from the debates because they are a wholly owned subsidiary of the Greedy Old Perverts

Somehow it’s always either about some whackjob like Paul or Kucinich, yes I admire him for his Impeachment efforts and should he prove successful will gladly have his baby, or the ‘overwhelming favorite but never,ever about the guy who could not only win but has the balls and the savvy to take on the oligarchy and give ‘em a tussle. Even win if people would pull their heads out of Ron Paul’s and Dennnis the Menace and Senators Cackle and Compromise asse’s and get out there and support….

John Edwards.

Just a few more days and the heads start exploding.

Those guys are listed alphabetically, not under the repubs:
Mike Huckabee (10)
John McCain (140)

I don’t think that this is an attempt by C&L to bury Paul stories, but most likely rather a reluctance to see him as a real candidate. And by now it’d probably just be a pain in the ass to retag all of the past stories.

Fox News is a threat to our democracy. Ron Paul’s pro-Constitution message is spreading far and wide. There’s nothing Fox can do to stop it now…

That was referring to Greg’s comment:
Greg @ 22:

Not really sure what point you’re trying to make but if you read your own list, it’s not just Paul they excluded as far as presidential candidates go. I think your conspiracy has no wheels. Even McCain and The Huckster aren’t on the list.

This is satire, right?

A.Citizen @ 27:

Somehow it’s always either about some whackjob like Paul or Kucinich, yes I admire him for his Impeachment efforts and should he prove successful will gladly have his baby, or the ‘overwhelming favorite but never,ever about the guy who could not only win but has the balls and the savvy to take on the oligarchy and give ‘em a tussle. Even win if people would pull their heads out of Ron Paul’s and Dennnis the Menace and Senators Cackle and Compromise asse’s and get out there and support….

John Edwards.

Just a few more days and the heads start exploding.

Thanks John!

“I know no safe depositary of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power.” –Thomas Jefferson to William C. Jarvis, 1820. ME 15:278

-Thomas Jefferson

The Cival War meme must be kept…don’t ask questions.

By the way, Bhutto said Osama Bin Ladin was murdered a while back:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ

go to 6:12

Thanks!

A.Citizen @ 27:

Somehow it’s always either about some whackjob like Paul or Kucinich, yes I admire him for his Impeachment efforts and should he prove successful will gladly have his baby, or the ‘overwhelming favorite but never,ever about the guy who could not only win but has the balls and the savvy to take on the oligarchy and give ‘em a tussle. Even win if people would pull their heads out of Ron Paul’s and Dennnis the Menace and Senators Cackle and Compromise asse’s and get out there and support….

John Edwards.

Just a few more days and the heads start exploding.

It’s going to be insanity regardless of who’s in the running.

klyde @ 26:

On paul cultists; this morning a caller on CSPAN said she wanted Social Security off budget and didn’t want politicians fooling with it and she had another fairly liberal position when the host asked her who she was supporting she said Ron Paul. It as if these people see in paul whatever they want to see.

ron paul always voted against using the social security fund for other stuff.
he’s not going to abolish social security(and he couldn’t if he wanted to btw, he’s running for president, not dictator), he only wants to offer young people to get out of it.
which you can’t afford, of course, as long as you’re running an empire around the world.
that woman has found the right candidate for her.

Cival Civil…

I’ve been wondering if this is really to create independence, to drop a program that’s quickly becoming a welfare program as we live longer (a conservative agenda, not mine), or to prop up the stock market as baby boomers pull there money out of 401k plans and we watch the Dow go splat.

Stefan @ 35:

klyde @ 26:
ron paul always voted against using the social security fund for other stuff.
he’s not going to abolish social security(and he couldn’t if he wanted to btw, he’s running for president, not dictator), he only wants to offer young people to get out of it.
which you can’t afford, of course, as long as you’re running an empire around the world.
that woman has found the right candidate for her.

Ron Paul has been swiftboated by his fellow GOP’ers, just like Dennis Kucinich was excluded from the last Democratic Debate.

Coincidence? I think not.

Ed @ 28:

Those guys are listed alphabetically, not under the repubs:
Mike Huckabee (10)
John McCain (140)

I don’t think that this is an attempt by C&L to bury Paul stories, but most likely rather a reluctance to see him as a real candidate. And by now it’d probably just be a pain in the ass to retag all of the past stories.

Yet here it is, Ed, a thread that even has Paul’s name in the headline…And you found it, didn’t you?

Now I just perused the threads from earlier in the day, and ya know what name I didn’t see on any of the comments? I didn’t see any comments from “Ed”.

And it wouldn’t surprise me that I woul;dn’t see that name until I got all the way back to another thread that somehow involved Ron Paul. Am I wrong?

Ed @ 28:

Those guys are listed alphabetically, not under the repubs:
Mike Huckabee (10)
John McCain (140)

I don’t think that this is an attempt by C&L to bury Paul stories, but most likely rather a reluctance to see him as a real candidate. And by now it’d probably just be a pain in the ass to retag all of the past stories.

There’s also no Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, or Alan Keyes. I still don’t see your point. And other Republicans on your original list are not presidential candidates. 5 out 8 aren’t. I don’t think the classification or any other listing has anything to do with candidates. It’s more news makers than anything else.

[Thanks for the grammar check. We’ll keep your astute appraisal of this blog’s shortcomings in mind when we do all of our posts. Here’s your ‘Flame Warrior’ appellation Enjoy! Sitemonitor]

Dec. 3 SF Republicans cancel their straw pole when too many Ron Paul supporters show up.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kiM10StfyBA

What’s up with the people paying “33″ dollars getting to vote?

Good thing we still got the intertoobs.
I hope Paul webcasts his rally.

OT:

there has apparently surfaced a new video in the Bhutto assassination, which seems to prove the Pakistani govt. has been lying with regards to her cause of death.

Ditching Paul???….Oooo, they are running scared.

Yakov Smirnoff has moved back to Russia and is writing jokes about the U.S. ….” “In the United States…..there are 4 TV networks, channel 2 shows government propaganda, channel 4 shows corporate propaganda, channel 5 shows plain old propaganda for the mentally challenged and channel 7 shows a White House spokesperson telling you to go back to channel 5″.

Andy K @ 39:

Ed @ 28:

Those guys are listed alphabetically, not under the repubs:
Mike Huckabee (10)
John McCain (140)

I don’t think that this is an attempt by C&L to bury Paul stories, but most likely rather a reluctance to see him as a real candidate. And by now it’d probably just be a pain in the ass to retag all of the past stories.

Yet here it is, Ed, a thread that even has Paul’s name in the headline…And you found it, didn’t you?

Now I just perused the threads from earlier in the day, and ya know what name I didn’t see on any of the comments? I didn’t see any comments from “Ed”.

And it wouldn’t surprise me that I woul;dn’t see that name until I got all the way back to another thread that somehow involved Ron Paul. Am I wrong?

I commented that I didn’t see Ed’s point but I should correct myself. I do see the point he’s trying to make, the defense of FOX excluding Paul or trying to compare C&L’s marginalizing Paul to FOX’s, but he’s dead wrong.

I just sent the following letter to the head of the FCC, Kevin Martin:

“I have just learned that Fox News has made the decision to exclude Rep. Ron Paul from its January 6th, 2008 Republican debate.

Rep. Paul is currently polling even or better than other candidates who are being included in the debate. He is actively campaigning there and draws bigger crowds with his grassroots campaign than any other Republican candidate. Even Giuliani commented to Ron Paul at a recent debate when there were hundreds of his supporters lined down the street, “Wow! You have lots of supporters!”

As you are probably aware, Dr. Paul is pulling voters into his campaign from every political persuasion and over $6 million was raised for him in ONE DAY online by a supporter! It set a historic fundraising record for any presidential candidate!

It is un-American, unpatriotic and against our First Amendment rights that we be prevented from hearing a candidate with his popularity and stature at a debate a few days before a very important primary! The FCC must step in and tell Fox that unless they include Rep. Ron Paul, a man who has been in Congress representing his district in Texas for at least 10 years and sits on the House Finance Committee, they will be in danger of serious repercussions from the FCC.

This is a very critical turn of events in our democracy Mr. Martin. I sincerely hope you realize how important it is for you and the other FCC members to take action on this immediately. Newscorp is acting against the public interest.”

Here are the key FCC email contacts:

Chairman Kevin J. Martin: KJMWEB@fcc.gov
Commissioner Michael J. Copps: Michael.Copps@fcc.gov
Commissioner Jonathan S. Adelstein: Jonathan.Adelstein@fcc.gov
Commissioner Deborah Taylor Tate: dtaylortateweb@fcc.gov
Commissioner Robert McDowell: Robert.McDowell@fcc.gov

…and make sure to comment how NewsCorp is “acting against the public interest.”

And one last thing. If you haven’t seen this speech Ron Paul gave in New Hampshire about a week ago on Exe