The O'Reilly Fatuitousness: Billo and Norm MacDonald on "Secular Progressive Heaven"
By Nicole Belle Wednesday Jan 02, 2008 8:18pm
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BO: That’s the liberal platform. They like that drug stuff. That’s secular progressive heaven you just described there, Norm. That’s what they want! Come on! It’s diversity, man. It’s diversity!
Isn't it funny that when we expect a media outlet to be accurate in its reporting or at least pretend to have a semblance of balance, we're called "intolerant"? And of course, you know that we liberals (or "secular progressives" in Billo parlance) are overly enthralled by those Hollywood types. So with no other comment, I offer you apparently acceptably tolerant FOXNews' Bill O'Reilly talking with Hollywood actor and comedian Norm MacDonald, substituting for former Hollywood actor and comedian Dennis Miller on the Iowa caucus today and what they perceive as the Secular Progressive Heaven.
Partial transcript below the fold:
NM: I know Obama is…this guy’s like a freight train. And now Dennis Kucinich has said that he might throw his support, man he’s going to be unstoppable.
BO: That’s right, so that’s at least six or seven votes that….Sean Penn…
NM: Yeah, that’s the equivalent of me throwing my delegates behind him. I think Kucinich is just barely above Ackmadinejohn (sic) in the polls right now.
BO: Kucinich and Ahmadinejad are running neck and neck…but we like Kucinich. No matter what you think about his politics, this is a stand up guy. Now, Miller loves Giuliani. Miller is like Giuliani’s guy. What do you think of the mayor?
NM: Well, he’s pro-choice, which is a little bit of a problem with me but I remember I was in New York and my God, he changed that city around like crazy. He did such a great job. And I remember my friends complaining. They were like ‘oh Times Square, it lost all its character.’ But I lived in New York during that time and Times Square was just prostitutes and junkies and serial killers prowling arcades. It was just… you know, it wasn’t character, it was…
BO: That’s the liberal platform. They like that drug stuff. That’s secular progressive heaven you just described there, Norm. That’s what they want! Come on! It’s diversity, man. It’s diversity!
Can you imagine the outcry for not only the job, but the citizenship papers or head of any liberal pundit that so gleefully joked in a similar manner about the Republican party?
Does Bill know that Norm is Canadian?
Bigger question:
Does BillO know his arse from a hole in the ground?
(And it goes w/out saying that I apologize to the grounds ... everywhere)
Fuck Norm "out of work" McDonald. Times are tough huh? The economy is great and Norm just killed any chance he had of working in Hollywood again!!
C&L should ignore this guy.
It's like responding to the world-is-flat guy after explorers established the earth is basically round and revolves around the sun.
Come on.
The Dark Ages ended some time ago.
Look forward.
Norm McDonald??!!! Jeezus, talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel! I guess because he did a crappy job on 'Weekend Update' he's Orally's new waterboy. Ugh.
I have to suffer Millers idiotic rants in the morning on the way to work. The SOB lives in Santa Barbara which is where I grew up. One day I hope to run into him and tell him he stinks. As for Norm, that guy was funny once upon a time, like 20 years ago. Billo is so full of his own BS that its hard to watch the guy. Secular progressives, that is hilarious. San Francisco values...the War on Christmas, does it ever end Bill?
When does the NYT give Billo a contract for a weekly column? If William the Bloody gets one then Billo the Jester should too. Maybe Rush could weigh in - they could drop Dowd, Hebert and Krugman to make room.
Billo is a buffoon in a one act play that will close very soon.
Norm MacDonald never was very funny or very smart. Why is he even on as a political critic? Now he sounds as stupid as O'Reilly.
Apparently they still have to pay Norm for his contract for the Half-Hour Comedy Hour so they gave him something else to do (besides being assistant janitor)
Norms a repugnicon, no wonder he is completly un-fucking funny.
Norm who?
Who is Norm McDonald?
Had no clue he was even still alive.
Edwards ahead in early reporting.
I never thought that he was very funny... interesting that he is substituting for another former SNLer that I never thought was funny either...
Saw him live one time... and I have to say that it was the weirdest standup performance that I had ever seen.
VietVet8666 @ 15:
Woo hoo.
People are angry... I heard one report that a caucus that only had 86 people in 2004 in a republican district has turned out 286!!!!
"Fatuitousness"?
Not a word. I think you meant "Fatuousness". Or, better, "Fatuity".
Definition according to MSN Encarta:
fa·tu·i·ty [ fə t ətee ] (plural fa·tu·i·ties)
noun
1. self-satisfied unintelligence: a lack of intelligence or thought combined with complacency
2. unintelligent action: an action or remark that shows a lack of intelligence or thought combined with complacency
Nicole Belle: I know. It is an intentional mash up of the two words to convey stupidity.
Check out Norm's comedy CD sometime. And by that I mean, sometime your really hate yourself and want to suffer.
Early results Edwards 34, Hillary 31, Obama 30
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Totally off-topic, but Bill O'Reilly is one homely human being. Look at that still picture of him. I can see him when he's 70 with Alzheimer's, drooling, sagging jowls, running away from The Home with his pants unzipped to flash prostitutes, making obscene phone calls to the Salvation Army, and being an even worse pain than he already is.
God, is he UGLY!
Colin Quinn, your seat at the BillO punditry table is ready. . .
Whoever Norm is, he sounded like he was drunk. I hope he has a designated driver.
He built a 13 million dollar command center right next to the twin towers that was ultimately demolished on 9/11 in 6 seconds flat. That was good for New York.
He purchased knowingly faulty radios for the firemen at discount prices, causing their death. That was good for New York.
Although the EPA stated the air was safe to breathe (even though the reports showed it was filled with asbestos from both towers) Giuliani was directly in charge of respirator use causing death and injuring hundreds in the aftermath of 9/11. That was good for New York.
Giulian initiated a scoop and dump operation in the weeks following 9/11, basically removing bodies to the landfill. When firefighters protested, Giuliani sent in the cops, who physically fought and arrested the firemen. That was good for New York.
When he was organizing Giuliani Partners, a security consulting company, he enlisted a close associate Bernard Kerik who later plead guilty to accepting bribes and loans from developers with mob ties. That was good for New York.
Alan Placa, a former Catholic priest excommunicated from the church for accusations of sexual abuse as well as covering up the abuse of other priests, is a partner at Giuliani Partners. Recently, Giuliani stated that Placa will not be fired as a result of the coverups. That was good for New York.
Pasquale J. D’Amuro, a former FBI administrator and Giuliani Partners partner, admitted to stealing artifacts from Ground Zero. That was good for New York.
Giuliani had an affair while still married at taxpayer expense with Judy Nathan. That was good for New York.
Giuliani’s first wife was also his second cousin, and he has stated that he thinks a marriage works better when a mistress is involved. Now that is good for America!
Giuliani’s 21-year-old son, Andrew, currently won’t talk to him. Great example of family values.
Rudy Giuliani’s temperament is well known in New York. He’s quick to anger, an egomaniac, very stubborn, throws tantrums and is generally mean. He would make a fine leader.
Overall, I gotta agree with Bill-O and Norm-O. What's not to like?
What's ironic is that Bill and everyone else at Fox complains about celebrities who express political opinions. Of course it's all right when right-wing has-been mongoloid "comedians" (I use the term very loosely) come on Billo's show to spout their demented comments.
More early results, Edwards still ahead http://dailykos.com/
Billo's hate and intolerance grow stronger by the hour. What a disgusting douchebag!
A heads up note - Bill Maher is scheduled to be on Letterman tonight. His HBO show opens a new season next Friday, Jan 11
Does Bill O'Dork knows what "diversity" means? Diversity IS part of the "secular progressive" portion of the democratic progress. What kind of democratic progress does BillO'dork what? Iranian style government? Communism? Life under secrecy?
My favorite Bill-O line:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris16.html
And my favorite Bill "conservative family man" web site:
http://foxnewsporn.com/
Never understood how "secular progressive" is an insult. I know it's an O'Liely catchphrase kind of thing, but where's the insult? Secular is exactly what our Founding Fathers intended for the United States when they set it up. Progressive means moving forward in ideas and tolerance. I guess I should expect a Sexual Falafelist to think Secular Progressive is something bad.
As for MacDonald...is he still living off residuals from that classic film, "Dirty Work" (had to hit IMDB to look that up it's so forgettable), or did he break the bank with that new cell phone commercial where he plays a humorless gingerbread creature? Yeah, he's a success.
turk
VietVet8666 @ 5:
You mean it isn't blatantly clear to you that, in many of its posts, this is basically just our (the left's) version of Coulter or Limbaugh? Unfortunately, I have chosen to keep on coming here, as I do appreciate that they highlight a number of important stories that I don't seem to find anywhere else.
I had no idea Norm MacDonald was such a dumbass.........wow....billo is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.yeah.....he's an out of work hasbeen...trying to get some exposer......dumbass.
Roket @ 13:
Yea, who is Norm McDonald? Never heard of him. He must be pretty insignificant.
SEXUAL PREDATOR!
BillO should refer all drug comments to his pal RUSH OXYHEAD.
Has-been comedians for the American way! Lol.
Huckabee leads Iowa GOP caucuses
AP - 9 minutes ago
Norm McDonald always struck me as somewhat of a jerk. This appearance with Billo fully confirms my suspicions.
For all the attention you give this piece of shit (bill-o') you might have people thinking you have a fetish...A Bill-O fetish that is...
Ignore this fucking puke...big pussy.
I wish I could get him in a boxing ring....man.....I would woop his pansy ass!
LOL!!!!!!!
Preznit Huckabee
Orally probably imagines secular progressives under his bed at night.
Poor Billo
Chris Farley
Isn't the opposite of a "secular progressive" a "religious regressive?"
The definition of insanity is keep watching Fox news over and over and expecting to see real news.
Damnit, I loved Norm McDonald. I had no idea. I feel sick.
If reality based evidence is any indicator, drugs and hookers seem to be just like heaven for a whole bunch of conservative fundamentalists. For most secular progressives, heaven has more to do with making mortgage payments and having something left over to raise the kids.
myiq2xu @ 44:
If Con is the opposite of Pro then is Congress the opposite of Progress?
L.A. Confidential @ 40:
No..NO!.....I can't imagine that......
I didn't know that McDonald was a right wing prick.
turk96 @ 31:
Exactly. Is O'Reilly a 16th Catholic priest or something? Why not just call people 'heathens' or 'apostates'? Soon he'll be getting nostalgic about the Inquisition.
The opposite of 'secular progressive' is 'pious reactionary'. Maybe that's what media progressives should start calling O'Reilly. He loves the SP label so much, he couldn't object to being a pious reactionary.
Ron @ 23:
Sounds like he's fitting into Dennis Miller's position just fine. Just add a belch, a mumbled non-sequitur, and a stumble into the camera, and he's there...
Norm McDonald and forcible male rape will always be entertwined, in my mind. Although, trust me, I haven't thought about him in, what, 10, 15 years?
sulphurdunn @ 47:
"I like Rudy Guiliani because he will fight the terrorists and keep us safe"
- GOP Cac
So bill-o hates it when the liberals trot out the "devoid-of-any-moral-compass" celebrities to support their causes but he's in hog heaven when he can get some has-been comedian to come on his show.
Why doesn't C&L simply ignore this waste of airtime?
VietVet8666 @ 15:
The Bilderbergers are very happy.
Marc @ 56:
Bill O is the C&L poster child
mudshark @ 49:
The New Fuhrer
Great clip! This one should be filed under ( What ever Happened and, who Really Gives a Shit about Norm Macdonald.)
Mitt concedes, Huckabee wins!
L.A. Confidential @ 59:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDwEnFhMVOU they kinda look like each other.
Ruthless People @ 61:
Mitt should quit.
When BillO laughs like that something dies inside me.
Yeah, I thought Norm was funny before, but he clearly has the same brain disorder as Miller.
Wow, I never knew Norm MacDonald was such a dick. Now anybody who didn't does! Fuck you too Norm, good luck with that career of yours!
Andre31BC @ 1:
More to the point-Did Norm forget his brother is a respected journalist? Maybe he's pissed at Neil and wanted to embarrass him...
secular progressive heaven-- that doesn't even make sense-- what a moron--
Credit Giuliani for New Times Square?
What ever you say about BO, at least he doesn't let facts get in the way of his opinions.
Norm sucking Fox off. Later for you, shithead.
I liked Norm MacDonald too. He did an amazing impression of Letterman. Now I have to say--"Norm, you're a putz."
VietVet8666 @ 15:
Looks like the finish will be Obama, Edwards, Hillary.
The Huck won for the ReThugs. Hollywood Fred finished third, ahead of Mitt, McCain and Ron Paul.
Who is Norm McDonald?
The Political Junkie @ 71:
And we thought we couldn't get any lower then Bush.
Two talking sphincters.
So how did Guilani actually "clean up crime"? How did he do it? What were his methods? How would this translate to a whole country? I've have yet to hear any explanations on what he did to fix everything. All we've heard is, "Guilani did it. It's magic."
I also used to like Norm, too. Not no more. And he used to be Canadian.
Then there is religious conservative hell....bathroom stalls and rubber suits with condomized dildos and the occasional falaffel.
I still cannot understand WHY we keep giving BOR(E) a stage? Does someone here think he is going to have a profound awakening? Are we waiting to see how low the brain can keep a person's lips moving, after they are obviously brain dead?
This POS is playing to a payday. He is just like Limburger. They will keep mouthing an ever increasingly bizarre barrage of ejaculations, until their audience walks away. Dennis Miller was ready to cap a position in mid-level stardom, until he exposed himself while on MNF. The media companies started dropping him like used toilet paper. Now he is on FOX, a mere memory of what the mainstream thought he was, going into Monday Night Football (where he was an abysmal failure). Yet, I am sure that Jim Bob and Ethel damn near pee their pants at every stupid attempt he now makes at humor.
I believe, every time we give an idiot a platform, they will be back.
anney @ 21:
We end up with the face we deserve.
Do people still watch Bill O'Reilly?
Um, why?
Two has-beens opining on nothing...what's new?
Ahhh
Norm's a comedian. I see. I thought he was always more of the "who let you in here?" guy.
A few years ago McDonald showed up for an interview completely hammered on something. Hey Norm...errr hey pot meet kettle.
BillO has the market on unfunny comedians .
Just a note though....McDonald does a killer Burt Reynolds. And that's the extent of his talent.
I think OReilly needs to start the 'old SNL hack commedian' hour. First Miller then MacDonald. All the crappy hacks that SNL had to offer. Next you'll see him hosting Victoria Jackson and Terry Sweeney.
I had no idea Rush Limbaugh was secular progressive.
Remember the film "Boys Don't Cry"? Brandon Teena was a transsexual male - a man born with a woman's body, in 6 words or less. He was raped and murdered.
Consider Norm MacDonald’s commentary on Saturday Night Live following the news that Brandon’s murderers had finally been convicted. He said:
“In Nebraska this week, a man was sentenced to death for attempting to kill a female crossdresser who accused him of raping her. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but in my opinion, everybody in this case deserved to die.”
hahaha? Yes, weekend update was Norm's high point.
Damn. Unlike others, I won't pretend to forget who Norm is, or pretend that I never liked him. In fact, I've often found him to be pretty funny. I had no idea he was a ridiculous conservative though.
i used to really like norm mcdonald. that kinda sucks. he doesn't like the fact that guiliani is pro-choice???? what a nut!
Oh, and by "ridiculous conservative," I mean the type of asshole who is more preoccupied with having an opinion ('I dun like the sound of that! Pretty faggy stuff, there!') opinion than actual knowledge. The kind of person who can laugh it up with a complete idiot like Bill O'Reilly.
Sarah @ 46:
Sarah, I'm with you... my 24 year old son thinks he's great too - I don't think I'll tell him, he's still feeling on a bit of a high after
our Prime Miniature was recently voted out of office.
Norm has been reduced to doing ads where he plays a talking beaver for a Canadian tel co. Even that seems highbrow for him after appearing with Bill-o. Do us a favour will you? Keep him, we are done with him up here.