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( Updated via D-Day at Digby) Still smarting from their collective premature obituaries on Hillary Clinton’s campaign, the pundits at MSNBC Election Central cast about for reasons why Hillary Clinton exceeded expectations in the New Hampshire primary.
Air America host Rachel Maddow had the best reason why Hillary won: let’s call it The Tweety Effect.
BUCHANAN: My guess is this: the New Hampshire voters said ‘look the press has been telling us Obama is the second coming. We don’t think so. The press has been telling us she’s gone.” And the women came out and said, “no, she’s not.” What New Hampshire did was stand up and body slam the national establishment, the press corps, the pollsters, the whole bunch who came in here as well as Barack Obama’s folks, who must be in a state of shock tonight.
MADDOW: Pat, I will tell you that on the influential-influential, perhaps, on the left-website Talking Points Memo today, you want to know who they’re blaming for women voters breaking for Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama, who they’re blaming for this late showing and a big vote for Hillary Clinton? They’re blaming Chris Matthews. People are citing specifically Chris-not only for his own views but also for…as symbol of what the mainstream media has done to Hillary Clinton.
MATTHEWS: What website is this?
MADDOW: This is Talking Points Memo dot com. And it’s a…it’s a…you’re being cited anecdotally, not specifically…
MATTHEWS: My influence over American politics looms over the people. I’m overwhelmed myself.
MADDOW: People feel the media is piling on Hillary Clinton and they’re coming to her defense with their vote.
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“MATTHEWS: My influence over American politics looms over the people. I’m overwhelmed myself.”
Is that when he got an erection? Jesus, his ego must have grown three times it’s size.
Go Rachel! I loved that segment!!! Chris Matthew’s obsessive hatred of Hilary is creepy. I don’t watch his show anymore because of it.
Matthews misogyny knows no bounds! Plus he just hates Hilary Clinton-watch how he froths when he mentions her name.
Towards the end of the night Tweety was spinning for some reason “the polls were so wrong” and started blathering some idiocy about the pollsters not being “ethnic” enough, so therefore the respondents lied to be politically correct. If an “Archie Bunker type” had asked the questions, he opined, people might have been more truthful. It was truly breathtaking in its stupidity…and, of course, its lack of self-awareness. Not even being schooled big time by Rachel and Tom Brokaw could penetrate his obliviousness.
As a Hillary supporter I watched MSNBC virtually all night just to watch some of these judas goat liberals eat humble pie.
The press predicted landslide victory for Obama. And they coincidentally predicted the Iraqies would greet us with flowers too!
There seems to be a groundswell of interested parties telling Chris Mathews stop making it personal.
Few people are influenced by Mathews, but he has a measurable amount of loathing for the Clintons that he cannot deny.
I watched MSNBC too, and it was a little weird seeing the extreme mocking of McCain’s uninspirational acceptance speech read from a piece of notebook paper.
Go tweety!! did Dee Dee put you in your place or what? Tweety and the MSM caused Hillary’s upset. Keep it up and you will elect her pres. People don’t like to be told what to think!!
jp @ 5:
Exactly! Maybe these talking heads got out of the studio and started doing some footwork they wouldn’t have to take as biblical truth what some corporate pollster has to say. (and when I say footwork, I don’t mean following in O’reilly’s footsteps and start pushing campaign workers around)
There are many reasons and I feel number one was once again the expert use of divisive politics and people fell for it again.
The divisiveness was given new names but it was there, women vs. men, young vs. old,
registered Dems vs. Independents.
It is too bad for all of us as we may be turning our backs on real change, embracing an idea of all of us being at that table again vs. a few.
I will not cast a single vote for the sake of a statement for women, my party leanings my age, but I will cast one for out country.
This was reduced to politics as usual.
I am sad for that reason.
Maybe it’s time for Matthews to take a timeout. I wish someone would ask him why he “obsesses” over Hillary. What makes him act the way he does when her name is mentioned? He needs to explain. Even Hillary or someone on her staff has become aware of what he says about her, as was evident when he questioned her the other day.
If sane reasoning that was unafraid of their corporate masters had to hazard a guess as to whether Hillary’s results which showed up nowhere in the polling were the result of Chris Matthews or voter hacking , which would make more sense ? Now we know why Kerry never contested ‘04 . Certain Dems , probably most , are just as corrupt as most Repugs . Watch the rest of the primaries and compare the states that have paper-trail ballots with those that don’t and how their results match up to their polling .
Watching Tweety on Morning Scar, both twisting and turning. They are saying that it was racists that were voting against Obama. What jerks, they haven’t learned, they are starting the racist card. They should be fired.
Wondering if last night was pre-game warmup for Diebold.
I thought the big story coming out of the “MSM” was that Hillary was the presumptive winner, and everybody else need not apply. Now they are just shocked that she won the New Hampshire primary election. It’s a BOMBSHELL! Nobody saw it coming!
We learned during the GW Bush administration that these so-called expert talking heads know just about as much as the drunk loud guy at your favorite neighborhood bar. When they guess right, they attribute it to their insight and special knowledge. When they guess wrong, it’s a bombshell that took the world by surprise. After getting just about every aspect of the war in Iraq wrong, I am not shocked or surprised that they predicted this primary election wrong.
Is it just me? I find that Tim Russert has a much stronger resemblance to Tweety Bird than does Chris Matthews — right down to the beak.
Mathews is becoming MSNBC’s Bill O’Rielly… a “O’Rielly Light”.
Maybe it’s because Keith Olbermann has had such a meteoric rise in ratings and Tweety can’t get over the fact that he’s no longer #1 at MSNBC.
Was just listening to Matthews on Scarborough and I think he may have revealed why he hates Hillary SO much. Matthews claimed that the only reason that Hillary was elected Senator in New York or is able to run a campaign for President now is because Bill Clinton messed around on her.
Tweety is no match for Rachel Maddow. He’s a bloated ego, not even my definition of a grade B tv journalist.
Someone called you out on the Hillary bashing finally, pal, & to your face.
Go Rachel!
VietVet8666 @ 16:
Absolutely! According to this article, 81% of the New Hampshire voting machines are Diebold–which, by the way, has changed it’s name to Premier.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0801/S00057.htm
Chris Matthews hatred of Hillary Clinton is pathological. Mr. Matthews seriously needs to see a mental health professional regarding his pathological hatred of Mrs. Clinton. I have never seen so much hate for so long as I have witnessed in the case of Matthews continued attacks on Mrs. Clinton.
Matthews has a long-running hatred of the Clinton’s since the days he worked under Roger Ailes–now of FOX “News” over at CNBC before he (Matthews) moved over to MSNBC. Just because these people work at major news networks and make big money does not mean they are not deranged and in need of serious psychiatric care. Matthews is pathetic and so too are those who employ him over at MSNBC. If the powers to be cared about Matthews they would see to it that he receive an immediate evaluation by a team of psychiatrists for his unbalanced pathology.
Mr. XXXX @ 23:
let’s reel it in here…
matthews is a human being, and he has his particular likes and dislikes…he’s got some funny love of giulianni, and some adolescent disdain for clinton, bfd…
you hate obama with a similarly quirky zeal….
i don’t like edwards
that’s life
but in the end, whoever wins the nom, vote democratic, even if it makes you want to puke
Re: Rachel Maddow. Why does Fox keep featuring folks with psychiatric disorders? Is this a sadistic thing, on the part of Fox management? Do these orders come straight from Murdoch, or is it an Ailes perversion?
Let these tortured souls rest, do not keep holding them up to public ridicule, please, Fox management, in the name of common decency.
The hatred for Clinton is bizarre….I would not be surprised to hear that Mathews has been doing the airport bathroom tap with his “after shave” manly men.
lopaloo102 @ 24:
Swashbuckler @ 20:
“the man, the myth, the legend” - why doesn’t KO ko him? although his head didn’t explode last night he looked positively deflated by midnight pouring over those poll numbers looking for the folks who “lied” to the pollsters. shameful, absolutely shameful, raising of the race card. he needs to reveal the basis of his bias! stop the innuendo. c’mon kathleen sort him out
VietVet8666 @ 27:
Has any sane person you know ever been asked to participate in a poll?
Tell you what, if someone ever comes up to me and says ‘Would you like to participate in a poll?’, I’ll say ‘Hell yeah, give me the skinny end, and I’ll jam the other end up your ass’.
Since all the “official” pre-vote polls have now been exposed as a pile of rancid baloney, let’s try our own informal poll:
On a scale of 1-to-10 (one representing “no trust” and ten representing “totally trust”):
a. How much do you believe what the mainstream media tells you?
b. How much do you believe what your government tells you?
And;
c. How much do you believe the accuracy of paperless Diebold touchscreen vote counting computers?
Add your respective scores for a tally out of 30.
Now ask yourself if you believe anything about last night’s vote.
Think about it…
At first I thought Chris Matthews was suffering from hypoglycemia due to his diabetes,because he was very confusing last night, but his continued nutcase rants this morning prove he really has lost it mentally….his obsession over HRC has become annoying.
Leave Tweety ALONEEEEEEE! Leave tweety aloooooooone!
You bastards are always pileing on…and he just gives and gives ..but all you want is more…………
leave tweety alone…..
I f*****g hate Tweety and this was a great moment. I wish that creep would go back under the rock he came from!
So when Matthew’s goes after Bush Liberals love him, when he goes after the Clintons Liberals hate him lol..
The reason Hillary won has nothing to do with Matthew’s it’s because she showed her caring side when she broke down, that’s what people want to see not the negative BS..
Hillary needs to fire her campaign staff and bring in Carvile and Begala now!
Preacher Boob @ 30:
Actually, yes.
…well, it’s gettin’ very interesting…watch closely folks–James Carville & Paul Begala return to Billary’s team today…
I think they start spinning her as even more of a poor victim of CM & MSM…that seems to work for her.
IT WAS THE CHRIS MATTHEWS EFFECT… his vitriol against her has turned people off of his favorite snake charmer, obama.
this morning on morning joebba the hut…… CHRIS MATTHEWS PLAYS THE RACE CARD… BLAMES LOSS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ON PREJUDICE………… THAT SHOULD BE THE HEADLINE….
IT SUCKS SO BADLY FOR HIM THAT THE INSPIRATIONAL EMPTY SUIT THAT CHRIS SUPPORTS DIDNT WIN SO HE HAD TO BLAME THE FACT THAT OBAMA IS BLACK. IN NEW HAMPSHIRE……….. now if this had happened in iowa.. i may have wondered if he didnt have a point… but….. this is just disturbing now that chris has blamed race. ON NATIONAL TV.. this morning on morning joebba the hut.
john @ 17:
I like that ‘drunk loud guy…’ Hah, hah, hah…..funny!
Say I thought this site had retired the ‘Tweety’ moniker in favor of the much more accurate ‘Chrissie’. Not only is Matthews dumber than a brick he really should, for his mental health,
come out of the closet. Now, If Maddow mentions that to him. I believe his head will explode. But, hey…
The truth is he really, really wants to have sex with Bush. That’s part of the reason for his Hillary Hatin’. She wants Bush’s job and Chrissie just can’t stand the idea.
Ethan @ 35:
There are plenty of good reasons to criticize Bush. There are plenty of good reasons to criticize Hillary. Sadly, Matthews doesn’t use any of the good reasons when criticizing Hillary - he just hates her. Apparently, because he doesn’t believe she’s put in the work to have the position she’s in today.
You know, for a supposed republican, once again, Buchanan makes a lot of sense and ‘Tells it like it is’.
Do you think he’ll ever recover from his ‘republican’ delusion, and become an ‘Intelligent Independent’, or even, (gulp) a democrat?
Of course, his sister would divorce him.
Mr. XXXX @ 23:
That is all true.
But it doesn’t change my opinion that if Hillary Clinton was any other persons wife, she wouldn’t be a leading presidential candidate.
I am a woman, and I am disappointed that we can’t find a female candidate who did it on her own, instead of riding the coat-tails of her husband’s 8 years in the White House.
Hillary is a nice girl, and was a terrific first lady for standing by her man. But IMO her candidacy reeks of nepotism.
Swashbuckler @ 36:
So what did they answer, ‘Yes’, ‘No’, or ‘Eff You’?
lopaloo102 @ 24:
I do not equally “hate Obama with a similarly quirky zeal….” as you claim. I like Obama but think he needs to finish at least one full term in the U.S. Senate before he runs for president. At this time, I do not think he has enough to be president and will have to overly-rely on advisors on too many issues. Obama was not even the Senate pro-tempore in his home state of Illinois when he was in office there.
Even U.S. Rep. John Larson of CT who is now the Vice-Caucus chair in the Democratic Party was the pro tempore of the state senate in CT. Yes, Obama is a gifted speaker and very intelligent. I do not think he is ready to be in charge of the United States.
I like Obama a lot. My criticisms of Obama is that he is a “fraud” because he lies a lot about himself. It is understandable though since he is overcompensating for lack of ability to be president at this time. Those who support Obama are most likely good citizens. albeit, very gullible.
Matthews rarely goes after Bush with the same intensity and seething hatred he has against the Clintons….and Carville and Begala are two has beens who couldn’t even argue against the flimsy neocon talking points on that pathetic show CROSSFIRE years ago.
VomitheKoolAid @ 32: