Once again, the Bush Misadministration and their goons in the Pentagon have LIED.

Gulf Of Tonkin, anyone?

Why can’t that man just hurry up and die?

RW @ 2:

Why can’t that man just hurry up and die?

don’t you know? Only the good die young, which means Dubya is going to live to 150…what do you think is keeping Dick Cheney alive?

Bush and the media both: can they just wait, even a second, a minute, an hour, or even a day, before definitively speaking as though they know what they are talking about? They talk first and confirm (or in this, and nearly every other case,) later, blathering on about what they HOPE to be the case, rather than what actually IS the case- to simply further their own agenda. When Bush makes a bold statement like that- one that agitates a country like Iran- he better damn sure know what they hell is going on. Oh right: it was Bush. Never mind.

So is it Ba Ba Barbara Ann or Bomb Bomb Iran??

Someone make up our minds

Dubya and Cheney are looking for any reason to start with Iran. Look for more of this to follow in his last year.

Oddly enough, the “chilling threat” reminded me of André the Giant’s taunt in Princess Bride: “The Dread Pirate Roberts is here for your souls!” And, truth be told, I found it just as funny. Actually, come to think of it, it also reminded me of the disembodied voice in Bulbous Bouffant saying “spatula…. tuberculosis….”

for that matter it’s probably the reason Bush41 and his wife live on too. I bet, if you looked deep in a dark basement or a bunker somewhere you’ll find the 113 year old Prescott Bush (dubya’s grandpappy), still alive, because evil seems to live forever…

maybe we can get Bruce Campbell to fight these demons!

Surprise! Surprise!

The Iranians’ account of the incident might (*shudder*) be correct?

Speaking of the Gulf of Tonkin so-called “incident” check this out:

Report Reveals Vietnam War Hoaxes, Faked Attacks

North Vietnamese made hoax calls to get the US military to bomb its own units during the Vietnam War, according to declassified information that also confirmed US officials faked an incident to escalate the war.
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During the war, North Vietnamese intelligence units sometimes succeeded in penetrating US communications systems, and they could monitor American message traffic from within, according to the report “Spartans in Darkness.”

On several occasions “the communists were able, by communicating on Allied radio nets, to call in Allied artillery or air strikes on American units,” it said.

“That’s something I have never heard before,” Steven Aftergood, director of the FAS project on government secrecy, told AFP.

But he said that probably the “most historically significant feature” of the declassified report was the retelling of the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident.

That was a reported North Vietnamese attack on American destroyers that helped lead to president Lyndon Johnson’s sharp escalation of American forces in Vietnam.

The author of the report “demonstrates that not only is it not true, as (then US) secretary of defense Robert McNamara told Congress, that the evidence of an attack was ‘unimpeachable,’ but that to the contrary, a review of the classified signals intelligence proves that ‘no attack happened that night,’” FAS said in a statement.

“What this study demonstrated is that the available intelligence shows that there was no attack. It’s a dramatic reversal of the historical record,” Aftergood said.

“There were previous indications of this but this is the first time we have seen the complete study,” he said.

What flaming bullshit.

What if the situation were reversed? What if an Iranian naval ship was on patrol off a few miles off the coast of Virginia or Puget Sound?

Like that would even be allowed to happen.

That radio chatter came from Blackwater Special Ops hired by Bush/Cheney to impersonate a Persian accent and hope the navy would open fire.

We had a staged show that was supposed to happen and start an international incident, but things didn’t go as planned.

Fascist Alert

23 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Americans born after Dec. 1, 1964, will have to get more secure driver’s licenses in the next six years under ambitious post-9/11 security rules to be unveiled Friday by federal officials.

http://ap.google.com/article/A.....gD8U3APP00

Annoyed Canuck @ 10:

What flaming bullshit.

What if the situation were reversed? What if an Iranian naval ship was on patrol off a few miles off the coast of Virginia or Puget Sound?

Like that would even be allowed to happen.

If the Iranians were off our coast and they put out a faked video of us showing agression we would say it’s a criminal act…and a war crime. Damage Inc does it and it’s just a mistake. Oops!

The video, which shows what is claimed are Iranian boats speeding around U.S. ships, doesn’t show any of the boats hurtling directly towards any of the navy ships, nor does it show what the Pentagon claimed the Iranians then did, namely dropped “white boxes” in the water. (I would have opened fire at those, wouldn’t you?) The audio tape is even less convincing, mainly because the person speaking doesn’t have an Iranian accent and moreover, sounds more like Boris Karloff in a horror movie than a sailor in the elite branch of Iran’s military. (The tape is also separate from any video.)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....80682.html

In other words: You called us on our bullshit and we are attempting to backtrack gracefully.

We swallowed that 9/11 story so completely, we’re stupid enough to fall for anything, I guess.

The United States, and the Bush administration, are the real authentic provocateurs, in the Straits of Hormuz and the Persian Gulf area, not Iran.

Iran has the tape as well. Its the United States Navy, which is in the waterways of the Persian Gulf and the Straits of Hormuz which is acting like the only provocateurs. Iran had every right to use their Iranian speedboats to see what America was up to in that s-called “incident.” The United States has already violated the Law of the Sea Treaty as it is and trying to bait Iran into an armed conflict/war is against the Nuremberg Trials and other like laws of war.

The United States is the only nation wrong here. Iran has every right to conduct business and see what is going on in there sphere of influence. I see the media and many politicians are ignorant of international law.

I could have sworn that I saw Kerry sailing near those Iranians too!

Wheee - as he endorses Obama instead of Edwards.

What a schmuck!

L.A. Confidential @ 12:

Fascist Alert

23 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Americans born after Dec. 1, 1964, will have to get more secure driver’s licenses in the next six years under ambitious post-9/11 security rules to be unveiled Friday by federal officials.

http://ap.google.com/article/A.....gD8U3APP00

By 2014, anyone seeking to board an airplane or enter a federal building would have to present a REAL ID-compliant driver’s license, with the notable exception of those more than 50 years old, Homeland Security officials said.

The over-50 exemption was created to give states more time to get everyone new licenses, and officials say the risk of someone in that age group being a terrorist, illegal immigrant or con artist is much less.

I guess we’ll only be able to attack ‘em with words then, eh? Didn’t anyone read the first Dark Knight novel?

From one of the links:

U.S. officials spliced the audio recording of an alleged Iranian threat onto to a videotape of the incident.

As I said in another thread about this incident, anything the Bush administration says is a lie.

Anything.

Anything, got that?

anney @ 20:

From one of the links:

U.S. officials spliced the audio recording of an alleged Iranian threat onto to a videotape of the incident.

As I said in another thread about this incident, anything the Bush administration says is a lie.

Anything.

Anything, got that?

If their lips are moving. Or now they can e-mail to their talking heads.

Bud @ 19:

L.A. Confidential @ 12:

Fascist Alert

23 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Americans born after Dec. 1, 1964, will have to get more secure driver’s licenses in the next six years under ambitious post-9/11 security rules to be unveiled Friday by federal officials.

http://ap.google.com/article/A.....gD8U3APP00

By 2014, anyone seeking to board an airplane or enter a federal building would have to present a REAL ID-compliant driver’s license, with the notable exception of those more than 50 years old, Homeland Security officials said.

The over-50 exemption was created to give states more time to get everyone new licenses, and officials say the risk of someone in that age group being a terrorist, illegal immigrant or con artist is much less.

I guess we’ll only be able to attack ‘em with words then, eh? Didn’t anyone read the first Dark Knight novel?

“Creeping Fascism” at it’s finest.

Actually, the conditions under which we now live resemble those of the former Soviet Union and are quite convenient, insofar as whenever a government official or mainstream media outlet makes a public pronouncement we can automatically assume that the exact opposite is true.

As soon as I heard this latest bullshit about threats from Iranian naval vessels I automatically knew it was a lie and would eventually unravel. Anyone who watched the juxtaposition of images from little speedboats to giant warships should have immediately hurt themselves laughing at the absurdity of the whole thing. Right up there with already legendary Iraqi UAV threat.

Love how the MSM functions: Government shoves the message down their throats and they blow it out their asses and spray us with their shit.

and how can we be sure that bush/cheney did not have a covert fake attack like this to make their next lying case to invade iran? we all know that they will stoop to the lowest level of human decency and have. they are criminals without conscious.

The big warships of the United States in the Persian Gulf that are in Iran’s sphere of influence have been the real authentic provocateurs, in the Straits of Hormuz area, for over a year now.

I know Americans like to have their facts straight. Again, the United States of America is trying to bully other nations and then lie about it later.

For years now, the United States has been pulling similar crap, and then displacing blame. Americans wonder why we are “hated?” in the world. Its actions such as this and the accompanied lies which follow that Americans are not liked.

You know what’s fun? Playing that video with the Miami Vice theme in the background.

Be afeared Americuns! Look at dem dare dastardly canoes! Heck theyz even gots nuklar warheads bandaided to da front of dem!! 911!! Terrists!! ScaredyCat Warning System Color Purple Nurple!!

I don’t know what’s more scary:
That the BushAdmin is still manufacturing threats or that they are becoming worse at doing it. What is this, Amateur Hour? I am not bothered that the lies are more easily debunked; that’s the silver lining. What chills my ‘nads is the fact that this sort of chicanery looks like an act of the desperately insane.

I didn’t believe the Bush version of events from the get-go, but this is just ridiculous.

As Anney says:
Lies, lies and more lies. The truth does not serve these fascists goals.

Mr. Pelicano @ 23:

Actually, the conditions under which we now live resemble those of the former Soviet Union and are quite convenient, insofar as whenever a government official or mainstream media outlet makes a public pronouncement we can automatically assume that the exact opposite is true.

As soon as I heard this latest bullshit about threats from Iranian naval vessels I automatically knew it was a lie and would eventually unravel. Anyone who watched the juxtaposition of images from little speedboats to giant warships should have immediately hurt themselves laughing at the absurdity of the whole thing. Right up there with already legendary Iraqi UAV threat.

Love how the MSM functions: Government shoves the message down their throats and they blow it out their asses and spray us with their shit.

Hopefully the military higher ups have been instructed to ignore any orders Bush may blurt out the next year.

IanY77 @ 26:

You know what’s fun? Playing that video with the Miami Vice theme in the background.

THAT IS NOT FUNNY.

…*…

Ok, yeah it is.
:lol:

a propos our fear-full leader’s international relations blunders:

YouTube: Al Jazeera Analyses Bush’s Checkpoint Gaffe

As George Bush, the US president, tours Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories Al Jazeera discusses the significance of his attempted joke regarding checkpoints in the West Bank.

Bonus!

GW *also* dismisses Israel’s failures (with US backing) to comply with UN Resolutions as “The UN Resolutions didn’t work! This is a whole new effort!”

Winning Hearts and Minds We ARE !!

That’s what happens when you have an American trying to sound like an Iranian with bad English, while still sounding like an American.

Oops!

Boys on the ship…can you say Gulf of Tonkin? Altogether now, say “Gulf of Tonkin”…your ass is grass.

Dahgrostab’ph-r-i @ 8:

for that matter it’s probably the reason Bush41 and his wife live on too. I bet, if you looked deep in a dark basement or a bunker somewhere you’ll find the 113 year old Prescott Bush (dubya’s grandpappy), still alive, because evil seems to live forever…

maybe we can get Bruce Campbell to fight these demons!

yes they grow like mold on old cowshit!

Just one question.

What would BushCo NOT lie about ?

Archae @ 1:

Once again, the Bush Misadministration and their goons in the Pentagon have LIED.

Gulf Of Tonkin, anyone?

Gulf of Tonkin exactly. I would not put it past this administration to do whatever it takes to achieve their ends. They’re obviously itching for war with Iran….so if that requires lying and doctoring a video….so be it.

I only had to hear that sentence on that tape spoken once to make me burst out laughing.. Sounded JUST like my teenage son when he is trying to sound like an adult with a deep voice. What a joke. And then they are backing off now saying the tape came from the shore or something?? Come on..

Does this remind anyone else of the old Cold War tactic used by both the US and USSR, when we’d test each other’s defenses by running a sub or long-range bomber right up to the other’s borders?

Also makes me think of Nazi claims that the Poles launched a strike into Germany. Kinda.

“We viewed it as a provocative act…”

Sorta like a pre-emptive invasion and occupation?

Pot, meet frickin’ kettle.

nwmuse @ 37:

I only had to hear that sentence on that tape spoken once to make me burst out laughing.. Sounded JUST like my teenage son when he is trying to sound like an adult with a deep voice. What a joke. And then they are backing off now saying the tape came from the shore or something?? Come on..

I have listened to it twice now and haven’t heard the threat. Can you tell me at what time in the recording it can be heard?

Sure cost lots of money to keep the welfare-warfare state going so we can keep manufacturing fake problems to “solve.” Lots of good paying look-busy jobs “solving” fake problems.

IF the incident really happened, that is IF the speedboats were really manned by Iranians and not someone on the US payroll - then, with the USS Cole incident in mind in which 17 US sailors were killed - why in the world would a state-of-the-art missile cruiser AND destroyer AND frigate allow anything to come within 200 yards of them? It was a simple rubber-type Zodiak raft that blew the hole in the side of the USS Cole. I’m thinking that Bush created this opportunity in order to talk war in conjunction with his middle east visit.

Question: if the voice was from the small craft, wouldn’t you have heard engine noises in the background? There are none at all.

If we on the blogs don’t start speaking plainly about U.S. tactics to start wars, we’ll probably end up in one again soon. We know the government and the MSM aren’t going to tell us the truth. Hopefully the blogs can fill that void and educate the masses. Otherwise welcome to the Fascist States of America where whatever we tell you is the truth. Sad.

Mossad agent either on a submarine nearby, or on shore nearby. Betcha Betcha…

Just bring the troops home Bush. We are all so very tired of this shit

L.A. Confidential @ 12:

Fascist Alert

23 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Americans born after Dec. 1, 1964, will have to get more secure driver’s licenses in the next six years under ambitious post-9/11 security rules to be unveiled Friday by federal officials.

http://ap.google.com/article/A.....gD8U3APP00

Soon we are all suspected terrorists. Force OR violence? How about forceful arguments?
H.R. 1955: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007
http://www.govtrack.us/congres.....=h2007-993