Any high school student who’s been paying attention understands more than this idiot.
The fact that he’s being treated as a legitimate author is insulting.

I don’t blame Goldberg. I blame the AEI and Heritage Foundation for handing cash like this.

If they are willing to offer to pay for a person’s education and gave him a job saying inconceivably idiotic things, chances are some people will say yes and accept these terms.

Jonah hating Hillary will have me taking another look at Hillary. Hillary lost me on that yes vote for the Kyl Lieberman amendment especially if the Bush administration uses it to attack Iran.

But that type of hatred coming out of Jonah towards Hillary will have me taking an even closer look

So this is what mAnn Coulter REALLY looks like.

Doughy Pantload admitted to Tucker Carlson on Friday that he has revised history and the definition of “fascism”.

Over at my crappy little blog that only my cats read, I am cataloging the things that are smarter than Jonah Goldberg…

So far I have come up with Athena, Maxine and Dexter (My three cats) and a plastic baby gate.

I encourage other submissions

Jonah’s a matinee idol for the bedwetter set

This guy is really full of himself if he thinks he can revise history.

So, it is scientifically possible to exist without higher brain functions. Thanks you for giving me a Nobel Prize, Mr. Goldberg.

Fascism has nothing to do with the basic leftist or progressive politics. Thats where these right wingers get it wrong.

Fascism is all about putting the good of the many over the good of the few (aka, Vulcan politics).

Like, for example, its more important for the government to listen in on every phone call they can, so they can hopefully catch a terrorist talking to a terrorist, in order to protect us… than it is for my personal privacy rights to take priority and keep those guys from indiscriminately listening to me talk dirty to my girlfriend or ask my buddy down the street if he’s got a $20 bag of weed I can come by and pick up.

Thats fascism. Individual interests are subordinate to State interests. Thats the whole point of the neocon movement. Hillary Clinton on the other hand… well, she may be shady or “something bad” but she’s certainly no fascist. She’s all about a free market shrouded in personal privacy rights protecting her from running shady business deals and possibly killing off lawyers. (sorry, Clinton fans).

Jonah’s dead wrong. Fascism has nothing to do with liberalism or progressive politics.

He also seems to really really twist “Socialism” and “Fascism” under the same wing. Like they’re one and the same thing. And for a guy referencing history, that makes him look pretty damn ignorant. The Spanish Civil War was fought by two factions, one who supported socialism, and one who supported fascism.

This guy’s a moron. Oh, and do I have first?

“Liberal Fascism”????

In most educated societies such quote would have its author laughed out of town. Not in our country though, years of dumbing down mean that idiots like this feller… not only have audiences, but actually forums dedicated to spew their ignorant brand of neusprechen…

Part of me wants to feel sorry for this guy, but I simply cannot muster the pity. Its a sign of the intellectual bankruptcy of the conservative movement that they give such “prestigious” tribunes to someone like this clown. I thought there would be adults in his environments that would tell him its not the same having a witty conversation at dinner parties and the office water cooler and trying to overturn decades of scholarship in political science and history. This from the guy who defends “elitism” as a fundamental conservative principle… unless its from academia, because academia is liberal and therefore wrong in everything associated with it… the subtitle of the book might as well have been “I know you are, but what am I?”… that is the level of discourse of contemporary conservatism. Oh, and nasty liberals want to take my bag of Cheetos away because its bad for me…

I saw the Q&A portion of this last night. Jonah would be more effective in defending his work by being much more concise in his answers and not so obfuscatory and befuddling. Unless, of course, that is central to his defense.

googling Liberal Fascism…the googlebomb has worked as of this hour.

I love how they misspell fascism on the screen under his name and call themselves BookTV.

The problem of Goldberg thesis is that *nationalism* is a central idea of fascism. I don´t know if “anti-american’ liberals would fit that.

What a stupid, stupid little man. He’s nothing more than a bag of undefined and nebulous bigotries all packaged up in a human suit, just looking for targets upon whom he can fixate, focus and project all of the darkness and smallness of spirit that he calls his inner being. What a vile and pathetic piece of work.

I can remember not all that long ago when the power of social mores, derived from the consensus culture, would have been all that was needed to keep a cockroach like Goldberg silent. He would never have breathed a word in public of his depraved thoughts and ideas for fear of the universal condemnation that would have been heaped upon him. Now, this sicko gets a public forum and the support of fine, upstanding Republicans.

What more do we need to know about present day GOPerism?

Fascism, to Goldberg, equals instructional videos on breastfeeding. The man has issues.

Because I was up so early this morning I saw this tripe. Hard thing to deal with first thing in the morning. When he got to the part about teaching parent how to raise kids and all that bs, I turned him off. Useless piece of human flesh!

I just love his “rebel” goatee. No mamas-boy he!

The guys book is an oxymoron.

apple pie @ 21:

The guys book is an oxymoron.

Which, as I noted … even my cats know

Classical 1930′/1940’s Fascism: Brutal and violent suppression by an authoritarian, state-sponsored paramilitary and military of the individual in favor of the state. Suppression and severe persecution of intellectualism in favor of advancing the state-sponsored mythology.

Jonah’s Liberal Fascism: Working within legislative processes, as provided in the US & state constitutions, to attempt to advance policies conducive to the betterment of the general welfare and greater liberty of the citizens. Support of intellectual expression and a free academy.

Oh yeah, who wouldn’t see the similarities.

The pundits on the right winger side of the fence have found their new all-time low. Pretty soon, they’re going to send out a car full of clowns. When the doors pop off, a million Republican clowns will jump out and tell us about oogy-boogy Liberals on CNN, and CNN will take them seriously.

Being fair is one thing. It’s good to hear all sides of an opinion. What is not good is entertaining the dellusions of people who are two IQ points above mentally handicapped.

What a pathetically ignorant man. Everyone knows he’s a Zionist Nazi. The LA Times destroyed its credibility by hiring this hate-spewing thug.

I thought that the heritage foundation was group of educated elites. How can they listen to this idiot. And a very good point, “They don’t know how to spell fascism.”

Well at least he admits the book is a polemic. The truth sort of leaked out too. He wrote this book for two reasons: 1) he’s tired of being morally on the wrong side of every issue. 2) His insecurity drives him to get validation as an academic, which he is not. His mommy did him a disservice, pimping him as a scholar, when he is a GED grade mind.
Jonah has a life of scorn and ridicule to look forward to unless accepts his severe limitations

Ron, I saw your baby gate and peed laughing! Good work, sir.

I would like to go on the record and say that pie is smarter than Jonah. Especially rhubarb pie.

mojopo @ 24:

The pundits on the right winger side of the fence have found their new all-time low. Pretty soon, they’re going to send out a car full of clowns. When the doors pop off, a million Republican clowns will jump out and tell us about oogy-boogy Liberals on CNN, and CNN will take them seriously.

Being fair is one thing. It’s good to hear all sides of an opinion. What is not good is entertaining the dellusions of people who are two IQ points above mentally handicapped.

I thought they were 2 points below.

Ron @ 26:

I thought that the heritage foundation was group of educated elites. How can they listen to this idiot. And a very good point, “They don’t know how to spell fascism.”

Ron @ 26:

I thought that the heritage foundation was group of educated elites. How can they listen to this idiot. And a very good point, “They don’t know how to spell fascism.”

Nope. Heritage is a funded PR front to give credentials to wingnuts that can’t get them any other way. Heritage is to scholarship what the chimp is to the word cowboy, in name only.

mojopo @ 28:

Ron, I saw your baby gate and peed laughing! Good work, sir.

My cats and I thank you

I’ve known egotistical gasbags who are difficult to tolerate on both the left and the right, but having watched him in various venues over time, I have to say that he comes off as the MOST insanely egotistical gasbag of them all.

Of course, that’s ONLY a gut-level personal and emotional reaction. That doesn’t mean his book is crap. I would have to at least give it a quick skim to determine that one way or the other.

I could be wrong here, but I SUSPECT that the book does not end up going a whole lot deeper, with much, if any, academic rigor. I highly doubt that Goldberg went into his undertaking as a detached, analytical observer, merely wanting to get to the bottom of the truth of what fascism actually is, where it came from, and which contemporary political groups and policies it has the most in common with.

I doubt that most intellectual historians (except perhaps those at The Heritage Foundation and The Claremont Institution!) would find much of serious value within its pages.

I suspect he wrote it to satisfy his dittoheads and to make a buck or two. But I do plan on reading it - maybe even cover-to-cover! - so I’ve reserved it at my local library. It’s only a 3-week wait; I’ll probably be able to endure it (the wait, that is).

Amazing how we now call LIES revisionism these days.

Liberal fascism is one of the great oxymorons. Goes hand in hand with Intelligent Goldberg and compassionate conservative.

This book is a pantload of wingnut welfare.

Maybe Jonah can take his Holocaust demeaning shtick on the road with noted anti-Semite Ann Coulter as a sort of Morton Downey Junioresque, grand-guignol, all star wrestling, circus-geek freak show.

-GSD

According to Mussillini, fascism was the process of insinuating corporate control so deeply into the workings and institutions of government, that corporations become the de facto government, running government solely for their benefit.. at the expense of all citizens. Mussillini said that it is only after the corporate takeover of government is completed and their control is unshakable, that the government drop is able to drop all pretensions of being servants of liberty or democracy. Once that pretense is dropped, the government comes out of the closet as a fully totalitarian entity. Invariably and prior to the fact, the organs of totalitarian control will have been nurtured and brought to maturity quietly, behind the scenes, awaiting the time that the pretense could be dropped and totalitarian measures could be enacted without restraint. The government becomes repressive, instantly ready to apply the full power of government to crushing anything that gives power to the people, serving only whatever furthers the interests of the corporations which own and operate the state and serving only the power elites within the fascist society. Fascism is a present-day, modernized form of feudalism, wherein the people become serfs, citizens become subjects and the aristocratic houses are the corporations themselves and all laws and powers of the state are bent toward serving exclusively the elites within such a system. That is fascism.

We are headed in that direction, if not there already. It looks to my eyes as if liberal democracy is losing the battle against emerging fascism in America. This is, incidentally, why I will never vote for any corporatist candidate, regardless their professed party affiliation.

Kathleen @ 3:

Jonah hating Hillary will have me taking another look at Hillary. Hillary lost me on that yes vote for the Kyl Lieberman amendment especially if the Bush administration uses it to attack Iran.

But that type of hatred coming out of Jonah towards Hillary will have me taking an even closer look

yeah id let a jerk like this influence me too!

Paging Jonah Goldberg! Paging Jonah Goldberg! Your flying saucer is illegally parked. Please remove it immediately from the fire lane.

And while you’re at it, why don’t you go back to the planet Reverso where you came from.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The only organized group of people who stood up against the Nazies were the German Communist Party, and that wasn’t because they were too liberal for them.

Yes, of course, Mussolini proudly proclaimed himself a fascist, but this is, as you point out, no hitch for the fact and reason challenged dolt.

But whaaaat???? “the only reason he got dubbed a fascist and therefore a right-winger is because he supported World War I.” Uh, does he mean WWII? Afterall, Italy was on the side of the US in WWI.

Oy. Lucky for him that he has wingnut welfare and a leg up from his momzilla.

Paul @ 17:

What a stupid, stupid little man. He’s nothing more than a bag of undefined and nebulous bigotries all packaged up in a human suit, just looking for targets upon whom he can fixate, focus and project all of the darkness and smallness of spirit that he calls his inner being. What a vile and pathetic piece of work.

I can remember not all that long ago when the power of social mores, derived from the consensus culture, would have been all that was needed to keep a cockroach like Goldberg silent. He would never have breathed a word in public of his depraved thoughts and ideas for fear of the universal condemnation that would have been heaped upon him. Now, this sicko gets a public forum and the support of fine, upstanding Republicans.

What more do we need to know about present day GOPerism?

No neocon Republican is fine and upstanding. Their interpretation of conservatism is a vile, selfish mutation of the genuine article. If we consider Goldberg to be a fair representation of the neocons, which I think he is, it tells us that they promote a backward, bankrupt philosophy that will ultimately be rejected and repudiated by the voters.

Hope the neocons have fun with their anchor of arrogance, perfidy and mendaciousness around their necks which they mistake for a life saver. See you at the bottom, fools. You deserve it.

Each time I read Jonah’s nickname, visions that bring laughter always emerge. Could someone clue me in as to how the “Doughy Pantload” came into being?

Paul @ 35:

According to Mussillini, fascism was the process of insinuating corporate control so deeply into the workings and institutions of government, that corporations become the de facto government, running government solely for their benefit.. at the expense of all citizens. Mussillini said that it is only after the corporate takeover of government is completed and their control is unshakable, that the government drop is able to drop all pretensions of being servants of liberty or democracy. Once that pretense is dropped, the government comes out of the closet as a fully totalitarian entity. Invariably and prior to the fact, the organs of totalitarian control will have been nurtured and brought to maturity quietly, behind the scenes, awaiting the time that the pretense could be dropped and totalitarian measures could be enacted without restraint. The government becomes repressive, instantly ready to apply the full power of government to crushing anything that gives power to the people, serving only whatever furthers the interests of the corporations which own and operate the state and serving only the power elites within the fascist society. Fascism is a present-day, modernized form of feudalism, wherein the people become serfs, citizens become subjects and the aristocratic houses are the corporations themselves and all laws and powers of the state are bent toward serving exclusively the elites within such a system. That is fascism.

We are headed in that direction, if not there already. It looks to my eyes as if liberal democracy is losing the battle against emerging fascism in America. This is, incidentally, why I will never vote for any corporatist candidate, regardless their professed party affiliation.

It’s not history anymore. It’s present day in the U.S.

André Kenji @ 16:

The problem of Goldberg thesis is that *nationalism* is a central idea of fascism. I don´t know if “anti-american’ liberals would fit that.

Oh and the hits keep on coming. Who vetted his book? Brittany Spears?

-GSD

This is a back door way for them to blame liberalism for the Holocaust, Hitler, etc., because Hitler took notes from Mussolini and put some of them to use in Germany. Ergo, they will claim that if Mussolini did it, Jews died en masse because of it, and Hitler was allowed to ravage Europe wantonly. It’ll also be a reason they’ll use to blame Spain’s fascism on liberalism too.

Their rewriting of history knows no bounds. Their goal is to make people stupid, and if they can do that, they’ll never have open opposition to their evil, and they’ll never have to answer for anything. It’s about trying to escape the light truth and justice so absolute power can be exercised openly without question. Look at the European “leaders” of the same right-wing stripe. They subvert everything to achieve their ends. They do not concern themselves with ethics or other peoples’ freedom.

I had to turn it off, when he claims that the left hates the military. That is simply not true. There are certainly factions to the left of center who are opposed to the military, but I’m on the left, and I don’t blame the military for our drumming it up to go to war. I blame the military-industrial complex, the security-industrial complex, and all those civilian corporations that are profiting enormously off of our being in a protracted state of war.

Anybody who’s informed about our military academies already knows that West Point does not promote war. It prepares an educated group of citizens from across the nation to be able to lead our military in defense of our nation, and it teaches to its cadets a sense of obligation to adhere to a level of personal morality during war. I’m not sure about the Air Force Academy, because they’ve apparently been infiltrated by Christian fundamentalist extremists who see George’s GWOT as a righteous jihad, and the Naval Academy can’t seem to overcome its sexist violence against female cadets.

But this guy is first, a poor public speaker, and second, someone who adheres to false premises upon which he bases his conclusions.

To the Reich Wingers the only qualification for being a writer, commentator, etc., like the Kristols and the O’Reallys is that you spew the party line and spice it up with even more hate than you did the previous week.