Isn’t a pretzel similar?

now this is the REAL beginning of the end of regressive ideology… and the beginning of the REAL war for the survival of our species… and the beginning of the kumbaya rhetoric obama’s learned to effectively orate and hillary’s been visciously lambasted for acting to end…

oh… and frist ;-)

damn… missed it by that much

I’m 50.Me Likey.
It’s funny what a symbol can do for a society.
Truer now than it’s ever been.

It looks like one of our $1.2 billion dollar investments might have gone down since it’s being reported that a B-2 Stealth bomber has crashed (with no loss of life). I haven’t seen CNN carry it yet but if it’s completely accurate then that would be the third crash in as many days.

http://www.kuam.com/news/26596.aspx

Sorry to disappoint.

GWB chooked on a pretzel and on peace.

you didn’t disappoint Ron.
in fact, why don’t we send a case of pretzels to the Preznit.I hear he likes them.

where did the peace sign come from?
Who came up with it?
Whomever it was……………………………deserves the Medal Of Freedom.

In Alaska, Republicans dont believe in global warming

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23297400/

mudshark Says: you didn’t disappoint Ron.
in fact, why don’t we send a case of pretzels to the Preznit.I hear he likes them.

We would have to send a case of beer too. I don’t want him drunk and pushing buttons.

it symbolizes one side of the culture war and the dollar sign is the other side.

ok,I read the post about who came up with the peace sign.
Ga Nite

In the summer of 1969 my 17 year old brother and I were painting the white trim on my parents two story house. We went up on to the roof and painted a white peace sign that was 10 feet in diameter on their dark green roof. It was there for at least 12 years until they replaced the roof. Our mom was upset (what would the neighbors think?). Our dad was kind of amused and said that you could see it from a plane when they came into Ohare airport. (He flew a lot as a salesman.)

Fifty Years After the ‘Peace Sign,’ Designers Agree on the ‘War Sign’

http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1521

I remember the bumperstickers in the late Vietnam years referring to the peace sign as the ‘footprint of the American chicken’. There were 18%ers back then too.

Don please, that was cruel. Don’t you have some small animals you could torture?

I’m trying to think of a way (other than painting) to get a peace sign on my roof. I live along one of the main roads from St Paul to the airport that the GOPers are going to have to use during their convention here. My roof is very visible from that road. Someone else in the neighborhood has an 8′ diameter sign made with lights. I may have to model mine after theirs…

The peace sign would be meaningless if it weren’t for war.

From the February 15, 2003 world-wide peace rallies, this one from McMurdo Sound, Antarctica

http://www.sethwhite.org/image.....peace1.jpg

60 minutes is going to have their expose on Karl Rove this weekend. Supposedly besides “chatting” with the 9/11 Commission Executive Director on a regular basis, he also is running a campaign office out of the White House. I hope the crew over at 60 minutes don’t hold back on him. We’ll see…

60 minutes is going to have their expose on Karl Rove this weekend. Supposedly besides “chatting” with the 9/11 Commission Executive Director on a regular basis, he also is running a campaign office out of the White House. I hope the crew over at 60 minutes don’t hold back on him. We’ll see…

Let the Nuremberg trials begin.

60 Minutes is also going to have a story on Gov. Siegelman. That’s a story that has been avoided by a lot of big news outlets. That should be interesting too.

Shells are reaching the Green Zone. The Ethanol “boom” is leading to a grain shortage.

19 curtilingus Says:
The peace sign would be meaningless if it weren’t for war.
And love would be meaningless if it weren’t for hate! :-)

Ahh, but of course in “The Illuminatus! Trilogy”
Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson “fiction” ;)

the story is a bit more occluded

Hail Eris
Regards

Sounds like Ethanol was a big waste of time. Making fuel out of our food? Amount of energy it takes to convert etc.
Willie Nelson is saying Biodiesel, Wind, and Solar are the way to go. I trust him.
Of course I’d like to see hemp legalized so we could use that as a fuel as well among other things.

Peace!

Grampa McCain will save us all from the wretched horrors of peace!

Not too peaceful and typical Hilary:

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/.....amp;page=1

Karl Rove.

When he goes down i will dance.

The games people play. They are looking at losing their jobs anyway. Why not slime the system so they can hold onto their jobs a while longer. Sick assholes.

forgot the post I was commenting on.
Not too peaceful and typical Hilary:

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/…..amp;page=1

My biggest gripe is that the symbol… is not an original design…

Oddly enough it is found in the ancient world and it is representative of the tree of life..

Today we use the same symbol… and we use it upside down,

Symbology is very importaint.. more importaint then most give credit for it.. or even think about it..

However.. Think about it.. for 50 years we have been using the ancient symbol of LIFE … Upside down… as a PEACE symbol…

And it has been SOOOO Fucking Effective hasn’t it????!!!!

Wake up people…

Turn it the other way and I bet the results will be miraculous..

It has to start sometime…

Tequila @ 24:

Shells are reaching the Green Zone. The Ethanol “boom” is leading to a grain shortage.

Face the Nation is brought to you by your friends at Archer Daniels Midland

www.happybirthdaypeace.com

Does anyone remember the ecology symbol?
An oval with a horizontal bar across the center?
Circa 1969-1972.

Just caught a portion of the Tonight Show on the tube (PST) during a channel surf and there he was…Billo, the loofah specialist, spewing bullshit. He said he has no favorite choice for next prez and that his job is to make sure everyone behaves. Yeah Billo, everyone needs to behave except you. What a bloviating buffoon!!

Thankfully, Herbie Hancock followed as the musical act and that helped wipe a little of the airwave slime that Billo had left hanging in the air.

Dona nobis pacem!!

Samantha Power was on Charlie Rose, and her story of the bombing of the UN in Iraq — the first time the UN had ever been directly targeted (according to Power) — occurred one day after he criticized (for the first time) the Bremer occupation.

Suicide bomber, from where?

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How Bushco attacked the UN and took out its best advocate:

And here’s something, that despite predicating the war on a link between Saddam Hussein and terrorism, a link between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda and 9/11, as Bush did, there was no preparedness done to respond to terrorist attacks in Iraq. In other words, if you’re going to predicate the war on a link with terrorism, you would think that operationally you would prepare your troops to deal with al-Qaeda attacks on civilian targets. No preparation whatsoever.

So, as Sergio [VIEIRA DE MELLO], this person who’s given his life to trying to enhance dignity, you know, and trying to mend broken places, effectively died under the rubble like a refugee,

the troops—heroic individual acts by individual Americans who just ran to the scene and tried to improvise, but ultimately, when it can to lifting the rubble from over him, a lady’s handbag was used, literally one of those basket handbags that had been plucked out of one of the offices. There were no stretchers, so they had to use curtains from the Canal Hotel windows and a curtain rope as a kind of amateur pulley system.

So, the most powerful military in the history of mankind is reduced to a woman’s handbag, a curtain rope and a curtain to try to save the most valuable civil servant that the UN has ever offered.”– Samantha Power, recounting the Bushco carnage (without making that analysis).

http://www.democracynow.org/20....._the_flame

Preparation, what the Republicans say they are good for. Bushco didn’t seem to care that a truck full of LOOTED high-explosives from the Al-Qaqaa munitions dumps — which Bushco completely failed to guard (or respond to UNDOUBTED satellite intell on the 50 ton trucks going out of there for a month) — could just be driven to the side of the UN building, and blown up.

Suicide bomber LOADING ZONE sign. Al Qaeda is in Iraq, so that’s why Bushco protected the UN building from terrorist attack.

Oh wait, Bushco supplied ZERO protection to the UN complex. What a goddamned shock.

Canadian Parliamentarians threatened with extortion by top Army General.

“Because we are, in the eyes of the Taliban, in a window of extreme vulnerability.”

“Gen. Hillier also said that once there is a decision to extend the mission, parliamentarians should vote “overwhelmingly” to support the troops.”

http://www.theglobeandmail.com.....tory/Front

Samantha Power, [is] Professor of Practice of Global Leadership and Public Policy, based at Harvard University’s Carr Center for Human Rights Policy.

Her new book is called Chasing the Flame: Sergio Vieira de Mello and the Fight to Save the World.

After the UN truck bombing, CENTCOM announced that it had caught 20 Al Qaeda terrorists at the border, and that they had confessed.

A week later, CENTCOM said that what they had was two Iraqis, one of the a kid. They said that they didn’t think either of them was involved.

They did this same stuff to the troops, and to the population. Absolute careless disregard for human rights, for international law, for the United Nations, and the lives of activists and anyone that opposed them on the ground in their Oil HQ, Baghdad branch.

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i hate gen. hillier. he’s always sticking his face in politics. get the fuck out, you’re not a politician. i actually support the extension of canadian forces in kandahar, for the reasons discussed and outlined in parliament. i actually agree with harper that if canada wants to be taken seriously on the world stage, we have to show serious commitments. but then gen hillier comes in and throws out all this noneness and fear mongering and faux patriotism. people will think thats the kind of rhetoric that got the extension, when he came very late into the debate and it was already virtually decided without that crap.

“support the troops” is irrelevant, its about supporting the mission and cause. which, given the liberal amendments to the extension, i can comfortably say i do support. (frankly i’m impressed with the tone of the canadian parliament lately, the minority is actually working together, it may just be historic that a minority government has lasted this long without falling - and still get as much done as the current government has)

i’m visiting my home town right now in the ottawa valley near the petawawa military base and the town actually has a big banner across the bridge that says “WE SUPPORT THE TROOPS”. i can’t believe how american talking points have made thier way here.

And the neocons told me that the peace sign was a broken cross?

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Quiet Burp @ 25:

The peace sign would be meaningless if it weren’t for war.
And love would be meaningless if it weren’t for hate! :-)

Peace/love would be meaningless without knowledge of war/hate.

The unfortunate things is we know the downside full well, but as a people continue to go there.

Pease Politics or the Audacity of Hope not talked about.

We all crave Pease, its serenity, and its bliss; however, the passion in power today as in anytime in history attracts a certain life lust, which spans a human dynamism of sexuality that could be argued is the real truth working in parallel to the divine understanding we all seek. Hence what do we have, Race Integration, yet, Ethnic Sovereignty, Now Individ