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Tina Fey comes back to the Weekend Update anchor desk to speak to women’s issues, including the candidacy of Hillary Clinton.
FEY: And finally, the most important Women’s News item there is, we have our first serious female presidential candidate in Hillary Clinton. And yet, women have come so far as feminists, that they don’t feel obligated to vote for a candidate just because she’s a woman. Women today feel perfectly free to make whatever choice Oprah tells them to. Which raises the question, why are people abandoning Hillary for Obama? Some say that they’re put off by the fact that Hillary can’t control her husband, and that we would end up with co-presidents. ‘Cause that would be terrible, having two intelligent, qualified people working together to solve problems. Ugh. Why would you let Starsky talk to Hutch? I wanna watch that show, Starsky. You know, what is it, America? What is it, are you weirded out that they’re married? ‘Cause I can promise you that they are having exactly as much sex with each other as George Bush and Jeb Bush are.
Then there is the physical scrutiny of her physical appearance. Rush Limbaugh, the Jeff Conaway of right wing radio, said that he doesn’t think America is ready to watch their president quote “turn into an old lady in front of them.” Really? They didn’t seem to mind when Ronald Reagan did that. Maybe what bothers me the most is that people say that Hillary is a bitch. Let me say something about that: Yeah, she is. And so am I and so is this one.
POEHLER: Yeah, deal with it.
FEY: Know what? Bitches get stuff done.
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Frist NO bitch ..
You go, Tina…and WHY aren’t more prominent women saying EXACTLY this…we’re again letting the MSM (and yes, it is an amorphous blob) manipulate this campaign season from beginning to what will ultimately be the end that Rachel Maddow foreshadows - another REPUG VICTORY…now let’s find someone to put a pin in Nader’s huge ego…for GOD’S SAKE!!! Just when you thought it might be SAFE to go back “in the water”…HA!!!
But why would we want a bitch who firmly and confidently supported an illegal war in Iraq, who approves of cluster bombs, and is quite willing to support an illegal use of force against Iran?
Don’t dignify her with the title, “bitch”. She’s a warmonger.
Meh.
We shouldn’t be electing anyone who hasn’t introduced a Bill for Impeachment before their respective legislative body.
Kucinich ’08.
We missed our chance.
Word, Tina.
Loved the Reagan joke.
Maybe we don’t give two shits about her personality or if she’s a woman, but her beliefs and what she supports? I don’t know… Maybe we think a fresh politician is what this country needs? Maybe Bill has become a huge duech bag on top of it?
IT’s true about the nuns!
Marcus Aurelius @ 5:
Senators can’t do that. Articles of Impeachment are introduced in the House.
Huckabee was funnier, but I still love Tina Fey especially since her breasts have doubled in size. They still need to find someone to replace Seth Myers, he’s horrible as an anchor. It’s like watching a fifth grader read in front of the class.
Chilling, ain’t it?
anney @ 3:
What title do we use for those who repeat the same false talking-points in hopes that they’ll become reality? Hillary Clinton never supported the invasion of Iraq. It’s ironic that you use the term “illegal” without considering why it’s illegal. It’s because the bill itself, the resolution, never gave Bush the power to unilaterally invade Iraq. Conditions had to be met, and many of them weren’t. Ergo, Bush broke the law. As I’ve said before, however - blaming Bush for things Bush does is so 2006.
Tina’s was one of the voices silenced by the writers strike. Welcome back.
Maybe the difference between Obama and Hillary is that Obama thinks that you don’t NEED to be a “bitch” to get things done?
In fact, I know several people that act in the “bitch” way, they think it gets things done. But you know what it accomplishes? People do things for them to MAKE THEM GO AWAY. Trust me, that won’t be an effective presidency when a majority of people make it their goal just to oppose you.
If she was truly interested in working for the American people, “bitch” wouldn’t be the right approach, because all it guarantees is opposition.
Let me just say this about Catholic schools and nuns: absolutely bang on.That story about the Catholic school that wouldn’t let a woman referee have authority over male students in a basketball game surprised the hell out of me. They must be so far out of the mainstream they might as well be Baptists. I can assure you from personal experience that nuns, in particular Les Soeurs Grises, had absolutely no problem exercising authority over male students. Forty years later I still have lumps on my head that hurt in cold weather.
Meat @ 13:
You are BLATANTLY LYING.
YES, the IRAQ WAR RESOLUTION granted Bush the power to go to war. If he was so obviously breaking the law, they could get him on it.
Hillary voted FOR the war. Don’t delude yourself. She knew EXACTLY what she was doing - she even got up and gave a SPEECH about the importance of invading Iraq. She was not fooled on this! The winds were blowing for war and she went right along with them.
To claim otherwise is historical revisionism, on the same level as Bush.
Rusty Shackleford @ 10:
Okay, then: We shouldn’t be nominating or electing anyone who hasn’t called for impeachment at every - and I do mean every - opportunity. We’re in dire need of a leader here, and we can’t afford to screw up.
Kucinich ’08!
Too bad.
its always been SNL’s job to make every candidate look like a twit - I don’t remember anyone so bluntly endorsed, any call to action to blunt, even namedropping Texas and Ohio.
I mean, I wasn’t offended enough to deny much of her rant was actually FUNNY, but seriously, after the fact it feels pretty obnoxious to muddy up my weekend update with something like this.
That was a pretty decent SNL…except for the musical guest. It was great to see Tina Fey on it again…
I think Tina is a very funny woman, and I watched this last night, however…
As somebody said, dignifying “bitch” as something to be proud of is offensive to me. I worked for a genuine “bitch”, and my life was hell under her; she hurt me deeply.
“Bitch” is not a badge of honor.
“Bitch” is offensive.
“Bitch is good” is feeding the culture of badness in the United States.
by the way, outside of this… I HATE when women say they are proud to be a ‘bitch’, or I see girls with the word ‘bitch’ on the ass of those tight pants… to me the people who would glorify themselves like that, are usually pretty obnoxious people. Theres nothing empowering about that word to me, and when I see someone identify with that, I trust them just as much as I would some guy identifying himself as an asshole…
…and I say this as someone who regularly works for “Bitch Magazine”. You have no idea the actual division about the branding of that magazine.
I suppose it could be worse. Instead of HRC Tina could be shilling for Margaret Thatcher or Golda Meir.
Telling someone they should vote for a person because they share the same chromosome make-up is insulting and anti-feminist.
I’m not a Hillary supporter, but I loved it. LOVED it. (The fact that I’m in love with Tina Fey has nothing to do with it.) I thought it was a great riff, very funny, and honestly, the kind of thing (using different words, of course) Hillary should have been saying all along: Look, women in politics have to be tough. No apologies for it. And as President, I’ll be absolutely as tough as I need to be to get things done for the American people.
Instead, we’re getting cheap hit shots on Obama. That stuff ain’t workin.
Lollimom @ 21:
Yes. It seems sometimes that in order to be equal, some women get the idea it means they need to be more masculine and aggressive. This disappoints me - you can be strong and empowered without playing that game. If you are naturally assertive and aggressive like that? Fine, be yourself - but the ones who throw on this phony personality becuase they think it will move them up the ladder. Ugh.
It’s like this - do you want Omarosa running the country? Or Trace Adkins?
Lollimom @ 21:
Absolutely true. We’ve had a male version of a “Bitch” in the White House for the last 7 years - doesn’t listen to anybody, does what he wants regardless of what people think and says screw anybody who doesn’t like him - and look where that got us. Yeah, he got things done - spying on Americans, pointless wars, wasted trillions of our taxpayer dollars. Yeah, I don’t think we need another “bitch” in the White House.
I like Maureen Dowd’s column today - along similar lines, she claimed Hillary was trying to appeal to her Mars side, a “fighter,” a “warrior,” but after 16 years of political fighting, 16 years of 51%, 16 years of “don’t listen to the other side, they’re stupid,” people are tired of it. They want someone who listens, who approaches a consensus and urges people to communicate and come together. THAT’S what people want.
You could call that the “feminine management style,” (Maureen Dowd does), and it’s somewhat ironic that the female candidate, the one who’s gotten closer to the presidency than any other woman, walked away from that and let Obama claim it. But them’s the breaks - America doesn’t want a fight, it wants to solve its problems.
btw, since people are on this thread now - if you didnt just get the news (becuase its not on CNN or anything like that for good reason) - the Larry Sinclair Obama/coke polygraph results came in. Of course Larry failed it, so that regular here who keeps spamming it can stop now. Thanks :P
So when a McCain supporter asks him “How do we beat the bitch?”, all hell breaks loose on the far left blogs, it’s “all about gender—it’s a disgrace—and McCain should have said so as forcefully as he distanced himself from the Romney remarks” (regarding what his mother’s had recently said about Mormonism).
But when a comedian says basically, ‘damn right, we’re bitches- we get stuff done. Deal with it’, everything is of course all right with that. Because it’s all about context. Context coming from someone you may agree with versus context from someone you don’t.
Yes, it’s a shame how the press is manipulating this primary by making Obama the winner of the last 11 primaries and caucuses! How unfair the press was, for anointing Hillary the presumptive nominee for months and months and giving no attention whatsoever to Biden, Richardson, Dodd, Kucinich, Gravel, etc!
But let’s say it’s true. So? What did you expect? The media corporations are just doing whatever makes it the most money. When Hillary made them money, they feted Hillary. Obama’s making them money, so they go on about Obama. When did Tina Fey get so fucking naive about the mass media all of a sudden? She’s been writing and making snide remarks about the superficiality, fickleness and rank stupidity of the news media for years — even going so far as to HEAD A WEEKLY MOCK NEWSCAST — yet now, because it’s something that touches her personally, she expects the Fourth Estate to actually behave as if they deserved to be in the First Amendment?
Fey will get a couple of months worth of snide hate mail for her polemic, and she’ll re-remember what she never should’ve forgotten — the fact that you care doesn’t change everything that’s fucked up. More importantly, she’ll snap out of it and remember this: the corporate media oligarchy being what it is, making a stink on TV — especially when you’re pleading for moderation or reason — accomplishes nothing. Sad but true.
If articulate, intellectually-compelling and emotionally-resonant calls for reason and civic activism did anything anymore, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney would be in prison and Keith Olbermann would be Advisor to the President.
At the end of the clip,it sort of makes a guy want to burn his jock-strap in support.
Get down or go down (your choice)with the bitchiest bitches…………………………………
Film at 11 ..
ewwwwww ..
The “bitch” certainly got things done when she agreed to grant George Bush the authority to unleash war upon Iraq, supporting him thereafter to the hilt (until the polls turned on her ambition, that is). How was she to know he was untrustworthy? The GOP had always dealt with her and Bill in such fairhanded manner.
But Fey makes some copelling points. God willing, even if it costs tens of thousands more lives and tens of thousands more maimed and wounded, she’s the person to finish what she so proudly helped start.
Jason B @ 27:
Bush’s rotten attitude is what motivated people to the polls in 2004, almost giving it to Kerry even though we weren’t that enthusiastic about him. Bush’s attitude and unwillingness to address being wrong about anything made Iraq that much worse. Bush is an asshole and we hate him for it, why should we reward and praise being a “bitch”
i mean Tina’s analogy is incorrect - those nuns in school didn’t have to get elected, they didn’t have to get reelected, and they didn’t have to work with non-nuns to pass their agenda. they were essentially a team of dictators.
thats not how you sell a candidate. sorry.
Goon @ 28:
I believe he calls himself Lougie which is what he traditionally hawks at C%L.
Great bumper sticker. “Bitches get stuff done.” I can live with that.
anney @ 3:
That’s ridiculous - she’s no war monger. But she is calculating and probably voted that way because she knew she was running for president and thought the majority of people would more likely support her if she were more hawkish and less doveish.
Which might be just as bad as being a war monger.
Clavis @ 30:
It amazes me sometimes the number of people who say “the media hates Hillary!” as a good reason to vote for her. excuse me? the media is not our friend - i’m not saying we avoid someone who the media hates and let them pick our candidates, but you certainly should not point out their disadvantage as a positive, and you certainly shouldnt point out any bias to some other candidate as a negative.
KARL ROVE HAS GOT TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST BITCHES EVER. THATS HARD TO WHEH THE REICH WING ARE ALL BITCHES!
Goon @ 34:
That and, it’s not like people look back fondly on getting rapped by the nuns. For some, the spots still hurt. And it’s not like catholicism is taking off in popularity.
I knew a guy who was very similar in his approach, and whenever we went to a drive through he’d ask for “fresh fries,” (ie just out of the fryer) and then return them if they weren’t fresh enough. Sure, the guys at the fast food joint would pull out some fries, fresh out of the fryer, but A) that was to make him go away and B) who knows how many times they spat in his milkshake to get back at him for making them do something.
People should work for you because they WANT to work for you, because you INSPIRE them, because they share your vision. If you get somebody to do something for you because they want you to go away, it guarantees a job done without passion, without inspiration, probably done half-assed if it’s done at all.
That’s not who i want leading my country.
The most ridiculous part of this whole sketch: I was watching it last night on NTV (a station out of Newfoundland & Labrador). The Kirstie Allie joke had the ’scientology invisibility cloak’ part edited out. I just realized now. WTF is up with that? That’s just weird. There must be some weirdo scientology guy working in the cutting room.
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/.....534/463220
in the spirit of this thread only, “what a bitch”
She’s pissed me off more in this one weekend than I’ve been the entire campaign of hypocritical dirty tricks.
Ha Ha… very funny?