President Bush tried his very best to scare the American people and distort the debate about illegal wiretapping at today’s press conference by spewing falsehood after falsehood. It’s genuinely hard to follow this man sometimes. First he starts off by saying that telecoms won’t cooperate if they fear getting sued, but in the next breath says that the program is legal. So…the telecoms should have nothing to fear, right? Furthermore, the telecoms are obligated to comply with legal surveillance requests.
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Arguably his most deceitful ploy was playing the “trial lawyer” card, despite the fact that these lawsuits are being brought by groups like the EFF who are the the exact opposite of the bogeyman, ambulance-chasing, “gravy train” trial lawyers.
Does this man actually believe what he says or does he just has no problem lying to get what he wants? Or could it be something entirely different?
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whatsa matter you? were protecting america!
Is (was) GW Bush the best that this nation could do in electing a president?
Not really sure if he’s drunk, or stupid…”patently” stupid. The funny thing is; he talks as if every one in the audience is as dumb as he is. I’m waiting for some one to step up and say “Please stop talking to us like stupid children.”
I believe he is just too damn dumb to even know the difference between truth and lies. I’m not joking!
jesus christ, he makes me EYE TWITCH every time I try to follow his nonsense. His entire communication strategy is to say a bunch of confusing, vague, and contradictory things and leave before people untangle them.
I was waiting for this numbskull to get down on all fours and start howling like a dog. God, we are stuck with this dimwit for another year? We are doomed….
Mr President,
Sir, excuse me for being so bold. It is just that you have it all wrong somehow.
It is not the Telecoms we wish to hold accountable. Mr. President that accountability you speak of, it is for you, Sir. That is not unfair as an American still living under a Governance of law (not men) based of the Constitution of the United States of America.
Thank you
I don’t understand what the big fucking deal is. Just sign the damn bill as-is and then give a blanket pardon to all telecoms if it’s such a noble thing to do.
You guys have to realize: He deals out this bullshit because it is what he truly believes. He thinks that monitering this country’s phones for terrorists is for the good of the nation. However he also believes it is for the good of the country for them to be monitered for crime, political dissent, etc.
Hard to say if he’s lying or not when he speaks. First you need to hire a Dimwit Interpretor to figure out what he said. I cannot believe that this idiot has been president at all, much less the last 7 years. Truly Americans must hide their heads in shame when that thing comes on the television. The only thing he’s missing is a drool.
I’ll ask the same question I asked earlier. He says the telecoms were told what they were doing was legal. Who told them that and what was the legality based upon?
What piece of law says that wiretapping someones phone, sans warrant, is legal?
So let’s say he wins and the telecoms get amnesty, what next? What other information will he demand of us and what other companies will also receive amnesty for “helping the govt. keep Americans safe”? This is a frightening path he wants to go down.
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One of the defining characteristics to what it means to be an American, is the freedom from a form of Government that needs to spy on it’s own people; TYRANNY. Thus The Fourth Amendment.
R E M E M B E R:
THEY(sic) HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS…
And so, THEY(sic) lobby and debate the merits to undermining that characteristic, that freedom, that Right. When Americans and America lose that Right and freedom, who wins?
Now that, Mr. President, is what is patently unfair…
p.s.
Warrantless is NOT legal even if the president thinks it is.
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He said we can’t talk to Castro because it sends the wrong signal, then he said he would talk to China when he goes to the Olympics?? And no reporter asked about Rummy with his picture taken with Saddam? What is wrong with this press!! They laughed and giggled like school children, they are as dumb as he is!!
Did anyone catch the two words Bush used when talking about the telcomms helping fight terrorist?
Bush used the words/phase “Believed to” or “allegedly”.
The telcoms are “believed” to have helped protect America or Some people have “alleged” that the telcoms have protected america.
Either they have or they haven’t. It’s obvious this is a scam because Bush can’t even say that they HAVE helped protect america.
The best part is when he says;
“My judgement is the will of the people.”
People will swallow a lot of BS, but asking them to pity the poor telecoms is a nonstarter. He’d have better luck getting the average taxpayer to shed a tear for an IRS auditor.
Beagle @ 2:
Nope, he was the only one the supreme court and katherine harris would allow us to have.
Perhaps he’s just a pathological liar.
Or perhaps he just thinks so little of us that he actually think we’ll swallow his shit and smile at him.
I caption that picture “Petulant President Poopy Pants.”
He doesn’t care about the telcos. Him and his cronies know that lawsuits against the telcos would inevitably provide evidence against their own crimes. He’s just covering his ass.
Arrogant bastard thinks he is entitled and doesn’t have to answer for the problems he has caused and thinks we should believe him after seven long years of his lies, misconceptions and failures.
I’ve never hoped for someone to have an untimely demise, but this might be an exception.
Tyree yes we should protect America, but I hope you don’t believe the lies Mr. Bush was telling during his news conference. Mr. Bush can’t keep his stories straight. He says the surveillance was for incoming calls from across the big pond, however they are listing to us on this side of the pond. They can do it legally by FISA, which he ignores. Our Constitution is much more important than letting Mr. Bush and the Neo-cons have their way. Like they say how can you tell if Mr. Bush is lying. “His lips are moving”. I hope we can survive his time in office, but I’m sure he has a few more tricks up his sleeve. The statement about Al Qaeda is partially true, but they are not the ones that belong to Osama’s group. Self proclaimed to get Osama’s attention. They didn’t even exist when we went into Iraq.
Yes let’s protect America, but let’s do it legally.
It’s sad when the biggest balls in the WH press corps belong to Helen Thomas.
Can’t anyone else ask the obvious question: Why do the telco’s need immunity for something that is (so Bush says) LEGAL?
They don’t need immunity for following the law.
They only need it if they BROKE the law.
So if they need it, they broke the law.
And so did the government.
Too bad it’s not this obvious to the press…
Bangkok Bob @ 21:
Is it a reflection on Americans that less divisive leaders have been at least targetted, and this buffoon’s closest call was with a pretzel? LOL.
The one reporter asked such a good question. He asked bush if he just wanted to get the immunity for the telecoms and if americans were upset about their privacy “they should just suck it up”? bush laughed his usual laugh and said, I wouldn’t say it like that, publicly.
I thought that yucking it up moment was very telling. Then bush went on to say that everything they did was carefully reviewed and blah blah blah..
I love it when our little Führer throws a temper tantraum on national tv.
Impeach.
Chuck @ 15:
Piiiifffft! Then he better have his ears checked because
he’s not listening to us!
No one is above the law.
McCain the Liar @ 29:
Really? What country are you talking about? Cause here in America there seems to be quite clique that is getting away with… uh… just about everything.
McCain the Liar @ 29:
Hahahahaha…….sorry, but that was funny.
Making sure the monkeys won’t provide state’s evidence against the organ grinders.
And by heck, doesn’t Bush look TERRIBLE in this. Maybe the magnitude of the disaster he has wrought is even sinking into his thick skull.
In case anyone needs to be reminded, back in 2002 Republican Mike DeWine tried to update FISA and the adminstration effectively said “Thank, but no thanks.” And now, Bush says FISA is out of date.
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.....se-is.html
Can you say “Flip, flop?”
McCain the Liar @ 29:
Apparently, Bush and Cheney are…
Data Mining honest Americans will eradicate terror from the face of the earth!!!!!!
Muahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This punk President is an evil liar who tries to manipulate the public with his 10th grade education. Yeah, you know what’s best for us Dubyah. Only the criminally insane thinks this sad ass excuse for a leader can protect even a cockroach. He’s desperately hiding something terribly illegal.
Yeah, how unfair. People over a certain income level should never be held accountable.
Dear President Hissyfit, I do not expect the telcos to participate in illegal programs, and they should expect to be sued if they do.
busch is partially correct. He should be impeached as the criminal he is. The compliant telecoms should be given immunity as witnesses so they can testify as to what they did to facilitate his crime. Then they should be fined $1000.00 for each totally domestic call they monitored without a FISA warrant.
We all know that they collect all data that has words like bush, bomb, kill, whitehouse etc in them from phone calls blogs and emails (have fun with that NSA pukes)
Filthy Harry Says:You have it right he’s worried about his and his cronies getting put in jail. I wish I had the time to write about all the crimes this President has committed on the American people. Alas the worst crime is Iraq War and the lie to get us there. Hopefully that will be resolved one this man has gone back to Texas to bask in the millions of dollars he and Mr. Cheney have put away through their friends in the Oil Kingdoms and Halliburton. Hopefully the lawyers going after the telecoms will expose this corrupt President for what he is. It would be a thing for the History books X-President goes to jail for high crimes and misdemeanors.
Why has no-one put forth this simple argument:
“If the telecoms did nothing wrong, why do they need immunity?”
He’s making it up as he goes along, and doing a very poor job of it.
Notice how, after some uncomfortable stumbling, he comes up with, “The civil liberties of our citizens are treated with respect.” He does not say UPHELD.
I wonder if Bush can pardon himself before he leaves office…
The President’s nervous laugh in begging of his answer is creepy.
He doesn’t seem to take civil liberties seriously.
His argument is that the companies shareholders are more important than American citizens and he blames the opposition as consisting of trial lawyers that want to ride the gravy train.
It what this President were doing were just and legal, there wouldn’t be a gravy train to ride on in the first place now would there?
Sitemoniter, thanks for the kudos, I think a picture of trees would have been a good one.
George, you are patently STUPID.
You are a liar.
You are a warmonger.
You are an alcoholic.
You are a megalomaniac.
You are the worst.
OMG - He sounds like a desperate Hillary Clinton. Haha. I’m just kidding. He’s not smart enough to sound like Hillary Clinton.
The bush Legacy is a flushable thing. I just wish I could be the one to pull the lever, but I’ll settle for just being able to watch as the turd circles the bowl on the way out.
“How can you expect telecom companies to participate if they fear they are going to be sued?”
How can you expect the American people to participate if they fear they are going to be spied on?
Hulk @ 4:
This load of bullcrap–that Bush is too stupid–was, I believe, foisted on America to excuse his reckless, illegal, outrageous conduct not only at present but also when he is eventually tried for the crimes he committed.
Flush Dumbya!
Easy one, He has no problem lying in order to get what he wants, why should he, he hasn’t been held accountable for even ONE of them yet!
seele @ 52:
makes a nice bumper-sticker
joshdavis @ 50:
Companies do business every day knowing that their actions will result in lawsuits.
The telecoms are not afraid of being sued, they’re afraid of the damage awards when they’re found guilty. Of course, with the current SCOTUS (currently reviewing the punitive damage award from the Exxon Valdez disaster) they probably don’t have much to worry about.