Blitzer should just go and work for Faux News. He is just so blatently biased!

Caving in 3-2-1…………

Is anyone honestly surprised by this? The pattern has been established.

To think I actually phoned the Texas office of Reyes long distance just last week, and via voice mail congragulated him for his big, badass, principled statement denouncing Telcom immunity. If this report proves true, I’m finished voting democratic. Forever.

if nothing illegal or unconstitutional is done…no immunity is required

fucking lily livered dem congress

why did we vote for these guys to take power?

how does a lame duck prez, with no popular support bully anyone?

i am sick

blackmail. iirc, when reyes was first took that chair. he was revealed as stupid and uninformed as bush re iraqi players. it was also noted how his family had all successfully parlayed his position into nice cushy jobs for them.

So they’re going to give them immunity despite the fact they hardly asked for it?

This is absurd. They’re just covering their own asses now and everyone knows it. The Telcos don’t need no stinking immunity because they will never go bankrupt, which would destroy communications in this country. What’s more is that the Telcos can’t unsee what they have seen while in league with the administration, and it all boils down to that pesky surveillance program that was enacted pre-9/11 that Bush said was justified by 9/11 to keep us from having future 9/11s despite the fact it didn’t freaking protect us from 9/11.

This is so blatant that it makes me want to puke. Protection from 3000 counts of negligent manslaughter is what this is.

oh how shocking.

I’m worried about the health of congressmen and women today. They are in urgent need of spine transplants

is this asshole a repug or DINO?

“We are talking to the representatives from the communications companies”

Read: The telco lobbies are filling our campaign coffers.

danger @ 7:

So they’re going to give them immunity despite the fact they hardly asked for it?

This is absurd. They’re just covering their own asses now and everyone knows it. .

Im sure there is something else in the language of the bill that is even more important to the party shortly leaving office. and it will in turn benefit the party entering.

CoIntelPro @ 10:

is this asshole a repug or DINO?

dino

The next five years are going to be crazy.

Sid @ 1:

Blitzer should just go and work for Faux News. He is just so blatently biased!

Even more blatant, Wolf was CNN’s food news guy. But, because they pay their people peanuts, he rose to the position he holds today. Proving once again, you do get exactly what you pay for.

LISTEN UP BUNCH OF COWARDLY DEMOCRATS… IF YOU GIVE TELCOM IMMUNITY YOU CAN KISS MY VOTE GOODBYE AND I’LL GO ON A CRUSADE SO MY FRIENDS THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILIES WON’T VOTE FOR YOUR SORRY ASSES EITHER.

[Please don’t post in ALLCAPS. Thanks-Sitemonitor]

rend @ 12:

danger @ 7:

So they’re going to give them immunity despite the fact they hardly asked for it?

This is absurd. They’re just covering their own asses now and everyone knows it. .

Im sure there is something else in the language of the bill that is even more important to the party shortly leaving office. and it will in turn benefit the party entering.

What could that possibly be? Absolving of their crimes too?

Adam Smith of Wa. will be hearing from me.

This is fucking ridiculous. The issue is dead. The People have Spoken. Democrats need to drop this issue NOW. There are more important issues pressing for our attention than giving Bush another free fucking ride.

How about pursuing that contempt citation?

I’m very unimpressed with the Democratically controlled Congress. Bill Maher was right on the other night when he pointed out that they seem to want a more thorough investigation of Roger Clemens than of Alberto Gonzalez. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are pretty much failing at running the place and the Democrats are only slightly less incompetent than the Republicans were when they were in charge it would seem.

I mean, you REALLY have to work to have a lower approval rating than President Dumbass.

I was really, really hoping I would not have to fulfill my pledge to quit the Democratic party if FISA passes with immunity intact.

I thought they were going to stick to their guns!

Goddammit! STAND FOR SOMETHING!

Aristocracy is the norm in history, freedom its precious jewel.

He was saying this on NPR almost 2 weeks ago.

The democrats always cave. Get use to it.

Replace Nancy and Harry.

slippytoad @ 19:

“…The People have Spoken…”

And was someone listening? Or do we have to say it on the phone?

For all you idiot Dems out there that hate Nader. What IS the difference between the spineless Democratic Party and the thoroughly corrupt Rethuglican one?

Rotten cowardly Dems prepare to cave again. If they do, I’ll stay home this November. Or go vote for Ralph.

I really don’t think these old clod-heads really comprehend the issue of telecom immunity like we are.

It’s crazy really, because I think not only are they spineless on the issue, they’re damn near scared to death of casting a vote which way or the other.

Write - check. Email - check. Fax - check. Sign a petition - check. All too may times to count.

Call - nope, haven’t done that because I’m deaf.

But this is the Real World, and in the Real World you take what you can get and move on.

So if they can come up w/ a “compromise” that includes something along the lines of the Spector-Whitehouse Amendment (i.v., for details) … well, it’s something that I might be able to live with.

Provide an alternative to blanket immunity for telecommunication companies.

Democrats have an amendment that would substitute the government for telecommunication companies being sued for their participation in the warrantless wiretapping program, but only if the company is first determined by the FISA Court to have cooperated with the Bush Administration reasonably and in good faith. Plaintiffs would be entitled to appear before the court as well, and if the court found that the company did not act reasonably and in good faith, the company would remain in litigation and not be substituted. This approach strikes a balance between the “full immunity” approach, which would rob plaintiffs of their day in court, and the “no immunity” approach, which may unfairly punish companies who relied upon the Bush Administration’s claims that the warrantless wiretapping program was legal. Moreover, this approach places the primary responsibility for any wrongdoing where it belongs: with the Bush Administration. (Specter-Whitehouse)

Hopefully Reyes is asking for something that Bush won’t deliver: Details.
Hopefully the future holds for us a choice of phone companies that don’t spy on us, and haven’t broken the laws.

dmhlt @ 28:

Write - check. Email - check. Fax - check. Sign a petition - check. All too may times to count.

Call - nope, haven’t done that because I’m deaf.

But this is the Real World, and in the Real World you take what you can get and move on.

So if they can come up w/ a “compromise” that includes something along the lines of the Spector-Whitehouse Amendment (i.v., for details) … well, it’s something that I might be able to live with.

Provide an alternative to blanket immunity for telecommunication companies.

Democrats have an amendment that would substitute the government for telecommunication companies being sued for their participation in the warrantless wiretapping program, but only if the company is first determined by the FISA Court to have cooperated with the Bush Administration reasonably and in good faith. Plaintiffs would be entitled to appear before the court as well, and if the court found that the company did not act reasonably and in good faith, the company would remain in litigation and not be substituted. This approach strikes a balance between the “full immunity” approach, which would rob plaintiffs of their day in court, and the “no immunity” approach, which may unfairly punish companies who relied upon the Bush Administration’s claims that the warrantless wiretapping program was legal. Moreover, this approach places the primary responsibility for any wrongdoing where it belongs: with the Bush Administration. (Specter-Whitehouse)

No motherfucking compromise. They knew this was illegal and they did it anyway. I want to see them BANKRUPT for this shit. These companies, and their investors, need to have their ASSES BURNED RAW to understand that breaking the law is breaking the law, no matter who the FUCK told you to do it.

THERE IS NO COMPROMISE. PERIOD. If the Dems cave on this they can expect chaos at the polls in November.

They cave because they don’t want to orphan their children. They know that the alternative is anthrax in their offices, as happened to Daschle. We are cruel to expect otherwise. We have lost.

Who’s going to be our stooge in the MSM once the first 8 years of the 21st century are but a noxious memory?

dmhlt @ 28:

Write - check. Email - check. Fax - check. Sign a petition - check. All too may times to count.

Call - nope, haven’t done that because I’m deaf.

But this is the Real World, and in the Real World you take what you can get and move on.

So if they can come up w/ a “compromise” that includes something along the lines of the Spector-Whitehouse Amendment (i.v., for details) … well, it’s something that I might be able to live with.

Provide an alternative to blanket immunity for telecommunication companies.

Democrats have an amendment that would substitute the government for telecommunication companies being sued for their participation in the warrantless wiretapping program, but only if the company is first determined by the FISA Court to have cooperated with the Bush Administration reasonably and in good faith. Plaintiffs would be entitled to appear before the court as well, and if the court found that the company did not act reasonably and in good faith, the company would remain in litigation and not be substituted. This approach strikes a balance between the “full immunity” approach, which would rob plaintiffs of their day in court, and the “no immunity” approach, which may unfairly punish companies who relied upon the Bush Administration’s claims that the warrantless wiretapping program was legal. Moreover, this approach places the primary responsibility for any wrongdoing where it belongs: with the Bush Administration. (Specter-Whitehouse)

Yes I think most Americans want Bush and the Republicans to pay for this, and for the Data Mining to stop.

Data Mining must stop. It will one way or another.

Look what’s happening out in the streets
Got a revolution Got to revolution
Hey I’m dancing down the streets
Got a revolution Got to revolution
Ain’t it amazing all the people I meet
Got a revolution Got to revolution
One generation got old
One generation got soul
This generation got no destination to hold
Pick up the cry
Hey now it’s time for you and me
Got a revolution Got to revolution
Come on now we’re marching to the sea
Got a revolution Got to revolution
Who will take it from you
We will and who are we
We are volunteers of America

Jamieh @ 31:

They cave because they don’t want to orphan their children. They know that the alternative is anthrax in their offices, as happened to Daschle. We are cruel to expect otherwise. We have lost.

It could be ricin.

http://www.opednews.com/articl.....tified.htm

Speaking of anthrax what’s the latest on the Ricin?

We need an email thing like Friedoglake has!!!

FOX is State Sponsored TV @ 36:

Speaking of anthrax what’s the latest on the Ricin?

It’s still deadly

:P

Too bad you are surprised by this.

Just wait until the election …. you are in for an even bigger surprise.

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SINCE WHEN IS WARRANTLESS LEGAL?

One of the defining characteristics to what it means to be an American, is the freedom from a form of Government that needs to spy on it’s own people; FREEDOM FROM TYRANNY. Thus The Fourth Amendment.

R E M E M B E R:
THEY(sic) HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS…

And so, THEY(sic) lobby and debate the merits to undermining that characteristic, that freedom, that Right. When Americans and America lose that Right and freedom, who wins?

Just what does Congress support and defend IF NOT the Constitution of the USA and our Rights contained within?

.

any house democrat that votes in favor of any fisa bill that includes any
form of telecom immunity is setting himself/herself for open season.
to support this criminal pres/vp again and again, demand the
American citizens take back THEIR COUNTRY and remove all those
who demonstrate actions that continue to destroy the Constitution.

we will no longer tolerate this kind of crime and will punish
those who will. removal from office will not be enough.

Here is my letter to The Beard:

Hello,

Along with a large number of Americans, I have been keeping a close watch on the handling of FISA (see Protect America Act), telecom immunity and Congressional oversight. As much of a fan of CNN as I am, the simplistic and at times pro-immunity stance that The Situation Room and other CNN programs has taken does viewers a great disservice. It is better to not report a story at all, than to represent it in an incomplete and biased manner.
I regret CNN’s complicity in promoting telecom immunity, and the disenfranchisement of its viewers.

You can send your letter to CNN HERE

The US is officially a Banana Republic.

I’ve never been this disillusioned when it comes to politics. Ever. This FISA crap has made my faith in government hit rock bottom. A 4th grader should be able to understand why retroactive immunity makes no sense.

Why should you guys be surprised by this? This has been the standard operating procedure from the Dems in Congress for over a year now. They talk a lot but at the end of the day they compromise and surrender and retreat. The only times they will EVER grow a spine is when you threaten to take away their jobs! So start your marches. Get your protests. Don’t listen to their empty promises. Don’t accept their mealy-mouthed excuses. Get off your duffs and say to them the two words that made Donald Trump famous…

YOU’RE FIRED!

If these phone companies and Bush get a pass from the congress I’m gonna run for office on a privacy platform. Seriously.

anon @ 39:

Too bad you are surprised by this.

Just wait until the election …. you are in for an even bigger surprise.

You’re actually going to post something that makes a modicum of sense by then ?

We all await that blessed day/event breathlessly………..

DHavok @ 20:

I’m very unimpressed with the Democratically controlled Congress. Bill Maher was right on the other night when he pointed out that they seem to want a more thorough investigation of Roger Clemens than of Alberto Gonzalez. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are pretty much failing at running the place and the Democrats are only slightly less incompetent than the Republicans were when they were in charge it would seem.

I mean, you REALLY have to work to have a lower approval rating than President Dumbass.

uh oh…..shhhhh…..be vewy vewy qwiet…..you will bring the wrath of PiLA in 4, 3, 2, 1…………..