Despite the fact that Billo says he’s the only guy out there courageous enough (*cough, cough*) to talk about Barack Obama’s relationship with Trinity UCC’s Rev. Jeremiah Wright, there wasn’t much else of discussion on Hannity & Colmes on Friday night. In fact, I’d say that the outrage was proportionate to the number of wingnuts brought on to discuss it. Nevertheless, co-host Alan Colmes and Democratic strategist Bob Beckell manage to inject some semblance of sanity to the predictions of the end of Obama’s chance for the White House. C&L contributer Heather made this mash up of Friday’s show.
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It’s amazing to me that people responsible for injecting so much hate into the national dialogue have their knickers in a twist over some isolated statements by Rev. Wright, who while admittedly inflammatory in his framing, is not factually wrong in what he said, and certainly not more hate-filled than Jesus Camp. Does Hannity, Fleischer, Morgan & Co. think that they have market cornered on hate and just fear the competition?
Note that not one of those right wingers outraged–outraged, I tell you!–addresses that Obama has disavowed what Rev. Wright has said nor that just as inflammatory and intolerant rhetoric has come out of the mouths of Revs. Rod Parsley and John Hagee, whose endorsements John McCain has actively sought without feeling it necessary to distance himself from their more extreme statements. Actually, very little by way of sanity is even part of the discussion, this is, after all, FOX News.
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please…no more
moreso, Huckabee’s campaign lasted over a year without the media digging into his sermons.
Why? because we are used to the hate spewing from white churches about gays and other religions, even other denominations
we hear words from a black church that shows unhappiness with America and white people, and SHOCK HORROR! run for the hills! Barack Obama must thus be an angry black militant!
…and a Muslim…
…and not black enough…
right?
Where was the wingnut outrage when Falwell and Robertson blamed America for the 911 attacks?
JERRY FALWELL: And, I know that I’ll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way — all of them who have tried to secularize America — I point the finger in their face and say “you helped this happen.”
PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government. And so we’re responsible as a free society for what the top people do. And, the top people, of course, is the court system..
God damn lying sacks of shit.
Who cares ? It’s Fux “News” . The less we listen to these phony broadcasters, the sooner they will dry up and blow away .
factually true?? Glad to know that the US govt caused the AIDS epidemic, that Bill Clinton was “ridin dirty” on blacks, and that we should not ask God to bless America because we don’t deserve it. That clears it up.
Can you not see the 527 ad with 3-5 old members of his church talking about how this was a normal preaching message (or didn’t you see the way the crowd reacted???) putting the lie to the idea that this was all news to Obama.
If anyone thinks Obama has a prayer of carrying OH, PA, MO, FL after this meme is fully planted, it is proof that the kool-aid is strong in Obamanation.
Now this is breaking news!!! Hannity and Colmes is a Right Wing Hack show!
Who’da Thunk It?
Huckabee is allied with Dominionist filth and he got a pass from the national media. Obama gets no such luck, expect it to get far, far worse as time goes on. SOP for the GOP controlled press.
Let’s get Keith to bring on some rational folks to talk about Hagee and Parsley!!
naa…too reasonable….
this makes obama a better candidate
watching baboons like hannity and boortz get so worked up over this, something must be right….
..it’s astonishing how deluded fox news is…
anybody who thinks obama can’t win OH PA MO FL against mccain is blinded by a hillary halo…..
nobody but the nuts see anything nefarious in all this…..and they still have to distort what they see to frame it up that way…
i’d take a man with a crazy pastor before i’d take a senator who’s been taking bribes his entire career, going all the way back to the keating 5…
http://www.boston.com/news/nat.....dals_stir/
get a grip…for gods sake, robertson is a dignified member of the republican party, a bona fide contender….so too gary bauer (larry craigs ex lover?)….cmon now people….
Pay not attention the the Republican economy taking hold, be distracted!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....91677.html
Thanks for saying what’s been on my mind for the past few days. The cults, they don’t qualify as religion in my book, are dangerous because they encourage this warmonger’s rhetoric. McLoser needs to reject those vile endorsements or he is guaranteed to lose the election, as supporting the war in Iraq is a losing issue for any candidate this fall.
Gosh, it’s a good thing Rev. Wright isn’t running for president.
This whole thing is nothing but guilt by association. My favorite wing-nut attack is that Obama attended his church for 20 years, he couldn’t possibly not of heard these hate messages. We have 3 clips of sermons, one given 7 years ago, and that’s it. The man’s been a preacher for 20+ years, is it reasonable to assume that 3 sermons is representative of his entire career? Since I wasn’t there in his church every week, and those attacking Obama weren’t either, neither I or they can say. What gets me is that Obama, who has denounced and rejected this man, is being criticized for not doing enough to distance himself from Wright. While McCain gets away with saying he just disagreed with Hagee, but refused to reject his endorsement. That was it for McCain, he just said he disagreed and the story was put to bed. Double standard anyone?
Thats it! Sean Hannity is Malanie Morgan.
Hurry up Rapture and take these Christians!!!!!!
Who wants to bet that the “Obama is a Muslim” smears will continue? This is all becoming surreal.
That was awful.
Y’all need to bring up HAL TURNER, Hannity’s white supremacist buddy, and spread it far and wide.
This is the issue the rightwing machine has decided to capitalize on.
Hal Turner.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050620/blumenthal
I make it a point never 2 listen or watch fox news. But since this site posted the link, i thought i might click over. Yikes. These guys are haing a field day over this. At least this came out now while we still have a terrific & vetted candidate. Clinton is going to be a great president.
This is a comment from EM at talkingpointsmemo.com I loved the snarkiness of it.
What drives me crazy is how this could have been avoided so easily if Wright was the slightest bit media-savvy. Had he merely controlled his tongue and limited himself to advocating an attack on Iran to encourage massive worldwide Muslim attacks leading to a fulfillment of the biblical prophecy of end-times and bringing about Armageddon and the summary slaughter of every Jew, Muslim, Catholic, and non-believer on the planet while rapturing him and his flock up to heaven, then followed it up by denouncing Catholics as cult members and blaming Hurricane Katrina on gay people, this story wouldn’t be metastasizing like this. One five minute milquetoast repudiation by Obama and it would all be behind him.
But what does Wright do instead? He spews this vile “God damn America” bile. What a psycho.
You people are all screwed. Obama will be no different than McInsane or Clinton. He’ll look all nice on camera, smile alot and back slap with the best of them but in the end you will get the same thing you’ve had for the last seven years. You people remember why the great decider got the votes that he did get, cuz people thought he would be a great guy to go have a beer with.People are going for Obama for the same reason, they think he’s a great guy who will unite the nation. Earth to delusional people, wake up. There was only one politician in the whole race who could of made a difference, who actually cared, and you people threw him under the bus. As far as I’m concerned you get what you get. The only place in your country I still visit is Las Vegas. You know why? The only color that matters is green.I never hear or see this racist crap there, all they care about is the green.
BTW why can an Obama person talk race and its allowed while Ferraro says the truth and she’s a racist.
You people seriously need to give your heads a shake and stop drinking the proverbial cool-aid. You’re all so easily manipulated…
Rusty Scary Black Church Shackleford @ 13:
lol
i admit that my enthusiasm for this contest had waned since defeat in ohio…..but this phony brouh-haha, and obamas appropriate and fast response, has me enthused again…if for no other reason than to see baboons like hannity and morgan and limbaugh melt down and go bonkers as obama continues to defy their expectations, and they realize their army of zombies is smaller than they’d ever thought……their opnions are meaningless, despite the efforts of fox and clearchannel…
(you know, here in northern ohio, there are zero liberal stations, 3 conservative stations (2 simultaneous broadcasts of limbaugh and savage)…and the only newsstation is a fox 1100, bashing democrats all day (where the hell is the FCC? will they have to shut up at least around election day)
Bush supporter Jerry Falwell blames America for 911 so Bush must resign!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Ak2Ic00gQ
Conservative terrorists Tim McVeightand Eric Rudolph killed Americans in terrorist attacks on America. Bush and Cheney have killed countless thousands of innocents. How many people has Rev. Wright killed?
Always entertaining to watch Clannity and O’Really try to talk with their hands.
Obviously, their mouths have nothing to say.
Sean Hannity is, I’d have to say, leading this charge. More than anyone else.
He is extrapolating on about Obama’s relationship with a pastor of questionable philosophy. Fine. How about Hannity’s buddy. This from Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner
Identifying himself as “Hal from North Bergen”, he became notable in local conservative circles as a frequent caller to the WABC-AM radio talk show hosted by Bob Grant.[3] Turner parlayed this fame into a role as the northern New Jersey coordinator for Patrick J. Buchanan’s 1992 presidential campaign. He went on to serve as campaign manager for Libertarian Murray Sabrin in a number of campaigns in New Jersey in the 1990s, including a 1997 gubernatorial campaign.[4][5]
Turner established a friendship with his replacement, Sean Hannity, on whose program he was a frequent presence.
C&L - you’re in the top 3 Progressive blogs out there. I think you should highlight this link between Sean Hannity and Hal Turner. Hell, it’s more than a link. These guys have been good friends for years. Don’t let that piece of shit Hannity get away with this. Please.
Conservativeslayer @ 20:
Oh, if only Wright had a time machine, he’d know he’d have to go back and correct something he said SEVEN YEARS ago…
Note that not one of those right wingers outraged–outraged, I tell you!–addresses that Obama has disavowed what Rev. Wright has said nor that just as inflammatory and intolerant rhetoric has come out of the mouths of Revs. Rod Parsley and John Hagee, whose endorsements John McCain has actively sought without feeling it necessary to distance himself from their more extreme statements.
Yes. But those two pastors aren’t black, save for their hearts.
Cons will run run run with this from here on out until Election Night. Instead of Osama and Terror, Obama and Reverend Wright will be the cons new home base.
This is American Politics. Circus Maximus.
We all see more of this fire and brimstone appear on cable so we have two wrongs.
Actually I believe in this public domain electromagnetic spectrum, it should be excluded from this so called idealology or any religion on public spectrum space. All this shows the harm and personal appearance to disstruction in society, if you want it, pay for it. All this is showing everyone how dangerous religion the mix is covered into free speech but yet we see contextual stream of bias, interpretation and hate driving what I call a new and modern method of free speech treachery. All with deliberate serious intentions to side track the fundemental of Americas Constitution.
Lakeguy @ 21:
who was the One? Is Neo running?
Edwards? Feingold– the only honest guy in congress- dissed him as a fraud….so it looks like you were duped as well…
L.A. Confidential @ 28:
Fine. Sit them down and tell them they have to choose - either Obama is a Muslim or Obama is a member of a Christian Church where a pastor once said some things. Watch their heads explode.
Conservativeslayer Says:
“This whole thing is nothing but guilt by association. My favorite wing-nut attack is that Obama attended his church for 20 years, he couldn’t possibly not of heard these hate messages. We have 3 clips of sermons, one given 7 years ago, and that’s it. The man’s been a preacher for 20+ years, is it reasonable to assume that 3 sermons is representative of his entire career? Since I wasn’t there in his church every…”
You know what you’re problem is?
You’re using rational logic in you’re argument. That’s not going to work in the USA.
Remember John Kerry? He was practically turned into a war criminal while Bush became the hero.
What you say may be true… it’s aso irrevelant.
I went to a church for 20 years. Who knows what all crackpot nonsense was said on any given Sunday. I’m probably not fit for any office…
Obama should just say ‘F**K it’ and move to Denmark. Let America elect Macain, that’s what it’s going to do anyway. At least he can escape to a better place perhaps….
Unlike the rest of the helpless masses…
Not fit to be president! Wow.
I think there’s more to the position than not avoiding everybody that has ever said a dumb thing.
L.A. Confidential @ 28:
yeah, as somebody else said, good thing Rev Wright isn’t gonna be on any ticket…
this is laughable…and the american people will and do see it as such, save for the 29% crowd….they’re nuts and they’d admit it….
Lakeguy @ 21:
Let me guess… it was Ron Paul, wasn’t it?
Mug @ 31:
But Kerry had a severe charisma deficiency that Obama doesn’t share. And for good or ill, things like that tend to be decisive.
To look at this with fairness, we cannot also forget the hateful comments from Farwell and others. The fact is that Obama is close to this pastor and his position is indefensible, just like people on the right wing with their nuts.
Wasn’t Bush blamed 4 for Bob Jones? If Obama can’t take a punch, he shouldn’t be in the ring.
Just a couple of issues to take with FOX and Hannity,
-Hannity shows that he requires a religious test for President. This goes not only against our Founding Fathers. Hannity does not believe in the U.S. Constitution as well. Those are very troubling words coming out of the mouth of someone that continuously must portray himself and those that he assocciates himself with as ” Patriots “. Because they factually do not stand for America. They stand for their own private version. This version does not enclude many of existing Americans.
-When it comes to disavowing religion. Hannity and his ilk are wise old theologians all of a sudden?
-If Hannity is so hard pressed to make people disavow their religion. Does Hannity feel all Catholics should disavow the Catholic church and its faith because of the churchs enabling factors in its child abusive priests?
-Shouldn’t HANNITY HAVE TO CLARIFY PUBLICALLY, SCRUTINIZE HIS OWN RELIGION AND FAITH TO AMERICANS BEFORE THROWING ROCKS AT OTHERS.
-Hannity should be honest and state, ” there is no and never will be any faith of a Democratic candidate that will ever be OK with Hannity’s narrow bigoted mindset “.
nyguy @ 36:
yea but the reich doesn’t feign outrage over the comments of their nuts so you have to point out the hypocrisy.
Excuse me while I act not surprised at that one single bit. FNC (H&C being just one consistent daily example) exists solely to demean & degrade all Dems and liberals, to marginalize them and their message - if not change the subject entirely - in whatever ways they can manage. If it wasn’t Wright, today’s dust-up would be over something else. I dunno, Barack will need to apologize for his 3rd cousin who had an unpaid parking ticket from 1999, or Barack didn’t say “God Bless You” to a stranger who sneezed on a plane flight one time. Or some other chickensh** thing. If they get desperate, maybe they could start counting flag pins again.
That the media - and the Dem candidates, not to mention all of Congress - actually go along with this pathetic, petty, and at this point blatantly transparent tactic over and over again is what’s really hurting America. These “debates” only continue to steer public discussion away from the real issues that impact the average American. And it’s a sad commentary on the American public in general that We-the-People continue to allow them to get away with it.
Barack & Hillary shouldn’t even acknowledge this stuff; ‘fighting back’ will never work (look how well that worked out for John Kerry). They need to reclaim control of public discussion on issues important to THEM, not the other side, and to STAY ON THEIR MESSAGE.
And IMHO, while major blogs such as this have done a great job at exposing that petty crap for what it is, I think they time has come that you all should stop even giving these situations air time by presenting them as “Man, how can they sit there and be outraged at [X issue], don’t they know they’re making a big deal out it on [false/petty/etc] pretenses?” Of course they know; of course they’re going to be outraged; it’s what they do, and what they are.
I’d like just once to see something like this posted - or hey, maybe reported in the news? Nahh, never happen - as, “Hey, get a load of what these morons are hyperventilating about now! And while these clowns were devoting an hour of their clearly overpaid time to [petty outrage of the day], here’s a clip from a speech Barack gave on health care today…” [or other such example/issue]
my $0.02 -