A couple of more perspectives on Passportgate, from Bubba, and the Reverend Jeremiah

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Nuff said.

Open Thread! I love open thread. Time to breathe. Time to say what is really on your mind. Time to let others speak, to argue, to joke and poke. my favorite thread of every day.

I am so glad Obama is running. glad to see the racists running scared and showing their true colors. Looking for excuses to transport truth into bullshit and exposing themselves in the process. i look forward to the angry words and the hurt feelings. It is time to rend this racism from this land and get on with dealing with each other as the human beings we are.

Let the shit flying begin.

See Reverend Jeremiah Wright assist in the heart surgery of our beloved president Lyndon B Johnson!

Picture and commendation letter here

http://truthabouttrinity.blogspot.com/

Shug @ 7:

See Reverend Jeremiah Wright assist in the heart surgery of our beloved president Lyndon B Johnson!

Picture and commendation letter here

http://truthabouttrinity.blogspot.com/

I visited your site and left a comment. The tape of his entire sermon is what the MSM will never show.

He is right and being taken out of context as he was is bullshit.

States' Data Obscure How Few Finish High School
By SAM DILLON
Federal figures gathered under the No Child Left Behind law hide a severe dropout epidemic, researchers say.

I am glad I found a solution to this crap back in the Reagan years. I said "The hell with this religion stuff". I am not a sinner anymore and live happily ever since. Mother Nature never called anyone a sinner.

Court Details Opposition to Bias in Jury Selection
By LINDA GREENHOUSE
The Supreme Court overturned the death sentence of a black man after ruling that a Louisiana prosecutor had used improper tactics to pick an all-white jury.

BaScOmBe whose saying "NO REPUGS" @ 14:

Zuckerfrosch @ 6:

Anyone else feel like Mark Penn saying that Bill Richardson was irrelevant was kind of like Clinton saying that the states she lost didn't matter? So any vote for Clinton matters, any state/voter bloc/superdelegate for Obama is irrelevant? Do they really think this is a winning strategy, or are they flailing and trying to hit anything nearby?

We progressives should not engage in the bashing of the Clintonistas. Let them thrash around uninterrupted, please. There is nothing new coming from that direction. We should not indulge them. The responses feed the false meme that the Dems are in-fighting. Above all, please don't feed the sHillBots.

I am so sure Clinton would have said that if Richardson had endorsed her.

Joe O. @ 18:

You know, I finally watched that movie "300". I know, I know, everyone has seen it but me. I resisted watching it for so long because it was a favorite of the right wing. I now know why they like it. Its pure propaganda and borders on fantasy. I was hoping to see more of a historical account of the Battle of Thermopylae but instead, they ruined it with a Persian army made up of Orcish looking immortals, a fat executioner with lobster like arms, and the like. I was tempted to turn the movie off several times and watch something else. That sort of movie belongs in comic books.

No. You are wrong.

You are not (or were not) the only one who never saw it.

Joe O. @ 18:

You know, I finally watched that movie "300". I know, I know, everyone has seen it but me. I resisted watching it for so long because it was a favorite of the right wing. I now know why they like it. Its pure propaganda and borders on fantasy. I was hoping to see more of a historical account of the Battle of Thermopylae but instead, they ruined it with a Persian army made up of Orcish looking immortals, a fat executioner with lobster like arms, and the like. I was tempted to turn the movie off several times and watch something else. That sort of movie belongs in comic books.

You do realize that the movie is an adaptation of a graphic novel, right? Frank Miller, most well known for his iconic The Dark Knight Returns and Sin City, wrote 300 back in the 90's. It's not supposed to be realism, it's almost a literal adaptation of the graphic novel in the way that Sin City was at times replicated panel for panel.

BaScOmBe whose saying "NO REPUGS" @ 14:

Zuckerfrosch @ 6:

Anyone else feel like Mark Penn saying that Bill Richardson was irrelevant was kind of like Clinton saying that the states she lost didn't matter? So any vote for Clinton matters, any state/voter bloc/superdelegate for Obama is irrelevant? Do they really think this is a winning strategy, or are they flailing and trying to hit anything nearby?

We progressives should not engage in the bashing of the Clintonistas. Let them thrash around uninterrupted, please. There is nothing new coming from that direction. We should not indulge them. The responses feed the false meme that the Dems are in-fighting. Above all, please don't feed the sHillBots.

A little ironic that comment. Consisting, as it does, entirely of insults.

Hi Peter G! :)

Your wit and inteligence is very welcome. :)

(So are you.)

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 22:

Ok, that was a little hard to decipher but i take it you are a religious person who wishes Jesus Christ ran a Theocracy and if any one else ran it it would fail, So you embrace the Constitution because you feel it allows you the freedom to embrace God.

I think...

If Jesus Christ came back, he'd end up pissing off the fundies and the right wingnuts with his messages of inclusion and tolerance. BillO and Hannity would end up spinning him as a liberal loon.

BaScOmBe whose saying "NO REPUGS" @ 14:

Zuckerfrosch @ 6:

Anyone else feel like Mark Penn saying that Bill Richardson was irrelevant was kind of like Clinton saying that the states she lost didn't matter? So any vote for Clinton matters, any state/voter bloc/superdelegate for Obama is irrelevant? Do they really think this is a winning strategy, or are they flailing and trying to hit anything nearby?

We progressives should not engage in the bashing of the Clintonistas. Let them thrash around uninterrupted, please. There is nothing new coming from that direction. We should not indulge them. The responses feed the false meme that the Dems are in-fighting. Above all, please don't feed the sHillBots.

Speaking of Clinton, I'd like to refer all loyal C & L readers to this article that appeared in Mother Jones, September 2007 issue. It's quite an eye-opener:

http://tinyurl.com/26eyz5

Spock @ 26:

Joe O. @ 18:

You know, I finally watched that movie "300". I know, I know, everyone has seen it but me. I resisted watching it for so long because it was a favorite of the right wing. I now know why they like it. Its pure propaganda and borders on fantasy. I was hoping to see more of a historical account of the Battle of Thermopylae but instead, they ruined it with a Persian army made up of Orcish looking immortals, a fat executioner with lobster like arms, and the like. I was tempted to turn the movie off several times and watch something else. That sort of movie belongs in comic books.

Hello...It's just a movie! Just like the bible is just a book!

Here is a thing some people don't understand about me.

I like movies and will watch almost anything but slasher flicks. I don't care if the actor is a flaming Scientologist, a right wing nut case or a sexual pervert in real life. If the story is good and the acting is good then i want to see it. i may in the end not like it, but if it has merit and if i enjoy it or am provoced by it it was probably worth seeing.

Don't know that its right to compare Rev. Wright with Rev. Magee. I mean, black people DO have reasons to be angry. You may dislike what both men say, but one of them is right.

Filthy Harry @ 33:

Don't know that its right to compare Rev. Wright with Rev. Magee. I mean, black people DO have reasons to be angry. You may dislike what both men say, but one of them is right.

I think we all have a right to be angry.

Guardian UK (Comment Is Free): George Bush, A funny kind of Christian

Giles Fraser, the vicar of Putney

Somewhere in the Middle East, Jesus Christ is strapped to a bench, his head wrapped in clingfilm. He furiously sucks against the plastic. A hole is pierced, but only so that a filthy rag can be stuffed back into his mouth. He is turned upside down and water slowly poured into the rag. The torturer whispers religious abuse. If you are God, save yourself you fucking idiot. Fighting to pull in oxygen through the increasingly saturated rag, his lungs start to fill up with water. Someone punches him in the stomach.

Perhaps this is how we ought to be re-telling the story of Christ's passion. For ever since the cross became a piece of jewellery, it has been drained of its power to sicken. Even before this the Romans had taken their hated instrument of torture and turned it into the logo of a new religion. Few makeovers can have been so historically significant. The very secular cross was transformed into a sort of club badge for Christians, something to be proud of.

Two weeks ago, the most powerful Christian in the world vetoed a bill that would have made it illegal for the CIA to use waterboarding on detainees. "We need to ensure our intelligence officials have all the tools they need to stop the terrorists," said George Bush in a passable impersonation of Pontius Pilate. "This is no time for Congress to abandon practices that have a proven track record of keeping America safe."

Throughout his time in office, the president has frequently been photographed in front of the cross. Yet as his support for torture demonstrates, he has understood little of its meaning. For the story of the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus is supremely a moral story about God's identification with victims.
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This room is dead, can we get a lady to get naked or something?

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 40:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 39:

This room is dead, can we get a lady to get naked or something?

Next best thing, Proud2bHumble is here!

:)

(.)(.)

And that's all yer gonna get! hehe

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 40:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 39:

This room is dead, can we get a lady to get naked or something?

Next best thing, Proud2bHumble is here!

:)

I vote for him keeping his clothes on.

I had to show you this one, 2b :)

49 xoites Hussein defends Constitution Says: Ron @ 47:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 42:

Ron @ 40:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 39:
The revolution continues. Give me liberty or give me death.

Give me liberty, death will come when it will. They can put me in jail but they can not imprison my mind. You should stick around too, you ole’ fart. :)

I could take the jail, though I’m not cool with the torture.

Noone is going to torture you until Proud2BHumble shows up with his puns.

Just in time for Easter:

The Ten Commandments Drinking Game

Roark77 Hussein @ 43:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 40:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 39:

This room is dead, can we get a lady to get naked or something?

Next best thing, Proud2bHumble is here!

:)

I vote for him keeping his clothes on.

LOL
Too late for 'keeping', haha, but if you wanna cockus about it, go ahead!
(sorry, couldn't disappoint PG)

The sad part is if you listen to the extended versions of Wright's remarks the are not batshit crazy and not hateful. Much of it is intellectual, optimistic and compassionate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvMbeVQj6Lw

But people on both sides will lazily repeat the "hate" meme rather than look at Wright in a thoughtful and measured manner.

The days events brought out the young people.
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DRST @ 47:

Just in time for Easter:

The Ten Commandments Drinking Game

No fucking way!

I need my liver.

For the McList: McThree (Social Insurance number)

maxson @ 51:

The sad part is if you listen to the extended versions of Wright's remarks the are not batshit crazy and not hateful. Much of it is intellectual, optimistic and compassionate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvMbeVQj6Lw

But people on both sides will lazily repeat the "hate" meme rather than look at Wright in a thoughtful and measured manner.

let's here it for another round of false equivalence, tarring both sides with the same brush.

please stop that shit.

I have a generalization for you: ALL GENERALIZATIONS ARE FALSE.

BaScOmBe whose saying "NO REPUGS" @ 50:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 38:

did you get McGaffe, or is it taken,

btw, how ya doin'?

Unless someone got it earlier today, it's all yers, lol
;-}

BaScOmBe whose saying "I saw 300" @ 59:

let's here it for another round of false equivalence, tarring both sides with the same brush.

please stop that shit.

I have a generalization for you: ALL GENERALIZATIONS ARE FALSE.

Hey, now you're generalizing about generalizations. Doesn't that make it true if they're all false?

;)

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 56:

Peter G @ 54:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 48:

One of my favorite movies of all time is Pleasantville. If you have not seen it i highly recomend you do.

I was in black and white as a teen, so i know.

A bit of a coincidence. It's in my player right now. A great cast.

I own it and have watched almost 60 times.

Yes, but not whilst engaging in intimacies with a close blood relative I'll wager...
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Which makes you a non-diddling dilettante, incessantly speaking.

;-}

Roark77 Hussein - "I like 300" @ 63:

BaScOmBe whose saying "I saw 300" @ 59:

let's here it for another round of false equivalence, tarring both sides with the same brush.

please stop that shit.

I have a generalization for you: ALL GENERALIZATIONS ARE FALSE.

Hey, now you're generalizing about generalizations. Doesn't that make it true if they're all false?

;)

ya got me!? ;<[)

bmw H. 528 @ 12:

Don't know if any of you watched Bill Moyers tonight---but the "Body of War" was an excellent and sobering look at Tomas Young, a real victim of the Iraq war.

www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html

Powerful and compelling.

It's just over here. I found it very powerful and a very painful show to watch. CBC would run something like it in Canada and I hope they do. That way people in the border states that would "dare" to get a different opinion could see it.

It appears that P2B, Xoites and I share an interest in Philosophy. Here's one of my favourites. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWLG9feziRU

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 70:

Peter G @ 57:

For the McList: McThree (Social Insurance number)

You got it.

Do you mean Social Security, eh? If so LOL! If not Scooby says,"Huhn?!"

;-}

You can take the Canuck out of the woods but.. you know the rest.

Peter G @ 71:

It appears that P2B, Xoites and I share an interest in Philosophy. Here's one of my favourites. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWLG9feziRU

Linketh not in anger my son. LOL :)

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 62:

Ok, you nailed me.

I learned my first pun when i was 4 years old:

"Two old ladies went for a tramp in the woods...

But he got away."

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lol, I knew you had it in you, but 46 years is a long time to hold it without severely damn-aging your puncreas; I can only hope we got it out in time.
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To quote a contemporary saint of the first hors d'oeuvres @5,"Let the shit flying begin."

BaScOmBe whose saying “NO REPUGS” @ 76:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 66:

The following sentence is false. The previous sentence is false.

The following statement is TRUE. The previous statement is FALSE.

:<[)

Oh, you logic students always mucking things up!

Bently @ 72:

What I don't get is the media is making a big deal over pastors/preachers/etc saying outrageous things.
Isn't that their job?
Virgin births, afterlife, a man sitting on a cloud judging us?
Isn't every preacher guilty of spewing bullshit?
Probably the only profession that lies more than politicians.

Only Obama's preacher gets the pub and the extreme reaction.

McGaffe's two solicited racist, anti-semitic, anti-gay fascists-of-the-cloth have gotten a pass.

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 77:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 62:

Ok, you nailed me.

I learned my first pun when i was 4 years old:

"Two old ladies went for a tramp in the woods...

But he got away."

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lol, I knew you had it in you, but 46 years is a long time to hold it without severely damn-aging your puncreas; I can only hope we got it out in time.
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To quote a contemporary saint of the first hors d'oeuvres @5,"Let the shit flying begin."

Had it in me? Trust me i could not keep in in me for 28 years and then i looked around and realized people were avoiding me.

I found other ways to communicate.

BaScOmBe whose saying “NO REPUGS” @ 76:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 66:

The following sentence is false. The previous sentence is false.

The following statement is TRUE. The previous statement is FALSE.

:<[)

Looks like everyone here has read Godel,Escher and Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid

Peter G @ 85:

BaScOmBe whose saying “NO REPUGS” @ 76:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 66:

The following sentence is false. The previous sentence is false.

The following statement is TRUE. The previous statement is FALSE.

:<[)

Looks like everyone here has read Godel,Escher and Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid

Jesus, you read that? That is one tough book.