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John Amato on Saturday, March 22nd, 2008 at 5:01 PM - PDT
…become the trusted news source for liberal bloggers? I’m just asking. I see them pop up all over the place now. I seem to remember an article about a John Edwards haircut that had the rest of the Villagers foaming from the mouth and led to his ouster from the race. Hey, we’ll take their ad money, but let’s not forget what they are. All hail Drudgico!
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People are fickle and easily swayed.
When they say something that’s Meaningful and TRUE?
I still trust only Fox news and Dick Cheney
because they are just plain stupid and bored and reading anything more then a few lines on the bottom of a news bar via tv , takes to much of thier time?
Id wager its all 3 but ill throw in another,
Ignorance.
Oh and it can depend on the amount of time a writer for a blog or online news paper gets to the point and lets the reader have it too.
Kind of like skipping ahead in class when one kid read slower then the other. Suddenly the teacher asked you to continue and your ass was like 15 pages ahead!
I always liked those fast readers, less crap more facts!
Whatever happened to the Talon News Agency?
I know! I’ve been wondering this too. Not only have they been popping up, but at good places and with good folks. I don’t trust `em. Then again, it took me a while to trust Arianna Huffington.
No kidding!
I think they started out as the new drudge. I thought the haircut piece was beyond ridiculous.
However, since then they have done some solid reporting. I don’t know how much is slanted right in commentary, but a lot of the articles I have seen have been dead on.
I don’t know what to think of them at this point.
But, I will say they aren’t just a drudge clone any longer.
Some times it takes a village idiot to point out the obvious. Stopped clock Politico gets it right for once.
Frederick @ 10:
Broken clocks are right TWICE a day. One more right story, and they will be equal to a broken clock!
Thank you! Finally somebody who sees the obvious weakness in praising that partisan hackery just because they say something with which they can agree. Maybe a broken clock is right twice a day but that doesn’t mean that it’s not broken and therefore useless.
looking at some some previous reports:
Politico, …tends to avoid reporting on stories that are too critical of the Bush administration and Republicans in general.
Jim VandeHei, The Politico —> Autumn Hanna (wife) Former aide to Rep. Tom DeLay
http://www.democraticundergrou.....15;3043518
Other reports… Washington’s Politico and Politico.com, founded with tons of cash from the wealthy Bush friend Robert Allbritton, whose family owned the defunct and scandal-plagued Riggs Bank and the defunct Washington Star.
Folks started going to them because the quality of Crooks and Liars has declined tremendously. C&L used to post frequently, broke stories, had a lot of conributors, and posted videos that were informative and interesting. Now C&L posts stories 24 hours to days after the news is all over the blogs and MSM and half th time the video postings do not function.
When the quality of Crooks and Liars declined tremendously folks went to other sites.
barkleyg @ 11:
Unless they are digital!
BOOOM!!! All along we’ve been told by the Obama people that Hillary’s supporters are mean, evil, and ruthless enough to let McCain win if they selfishly don’t get their way. Well lo’ and behold, now the truth finally comes out:
Mccain/Lieberman 08
Okay lay down ur’ bets.
The Smiths @ 13:
That may be true, but this report by him is true, balanced, overdue, and a fair sight better than most of the horse race crap dished up by the “MSM”.
Politico?
Not on my list of things to look at regularly. Sounds like more inside the beltway wanking.
L.A. Confidential @ 16:
I’ll betcha I’ll pound 4 beers when he gets the VP slot.
I’ll save two for the aftermath.
I guess any new blog site becomes a reliable resource for anyone interested in politics if they show responsible reporting and insightful analysis. The analysis of the viability Hillary Clinton’s campaign as largely a media fabrication seems spot on, an important observation, and newsworthy. Evidently the fact that it isn’t favorable to Hillary is what gives John Amato pause. Maybe he would be wise to get used to it.
Hail to the Chimp @ 14:
At least here i have found, one is not slurred names at due to ones own viewpoint when it comes to Hillary or obama.
least yet ive found such. Hence why i left another blog. The hate there was to much, friends became evil and slur words over religion were tossed about like a sack of grain, adding up and up and up. I dont or wont come here to make friends, but at least have my voice heard without a backlash that was wicked and nothing done by the blog owner to stop the infighting in its tracts!
I came here during 2004 after hurrican katrina, i should have stayed. Glad iam back and things here look abit more controlled and less hatefull and simple minded as well.
Danke Crooks & Liars.
eh…what? talk about the important issues, not this s***
Watching and reading so-called experts is a crapshot. Before 2006 elections, Scarbough, Tucker all of them were saying, “Don’t worry, They’ll never take back the House and Senate.” then the Repugs got blown out of the water. I even heard Kate O’Brian state that Santorum would hold on to his seat. What a crock.
The Real Hussein @ 22:
Okay then the fact the Cons have been out hustling everyone since 01.
Go ahead your floor.
Just pointing out connections… its like a mystery
… “the media”
Deighved H Stern MD @ 17:
You have on one hand Republicans that are sleazy, immoral, wicked, sinful, crooked, wasteful, uncaring, thieves, killers and plain outright evil, not all of them are all of the above but a lot are, and a lot go along for the ride with the scum.
Then you have a reasonably nice, honest Democrat politician who has a chance to run for the President job, with a nice head of hair for his age and hes proud of it, so the RW media machine goes to town on his haircut and the MSM and some Liberals join in. Pathetic.
At least we have Obama going strong and heading for the WH, IMO Edwards would be a suitable candidate for some position in an Obama Administration, I bet hes in the mood for some payback on the Repugs, lots of stones need lifting and exposing to the light of day.
Conversations about the Republican candidate winning in oh eight are like amusing but of no moment.
Bush has screwed the Republican brand name into the ground.
P.D. @ 23:
who was that moron virulently defending Bear Stearns on TV the tuesday before their friday stock price crash !
Mike Mid City @ 27:
he didnt need to do much (voted most relaxed vacationing Pres), they were very helpful in self destructing themselves.
The sheer amount of Republicans officials resigned, fired or indicted in the last seven years is mind blowing,
I dont think any other administration in history has had this bad a track record of sleaze and corruption.
Friar Tuck @ 21:
late 2007 the Hilbots were busy banning accounts of anti HRC people at DKos under false pretenses.
been banned twice there now, not going back for more of their narrow minded rose tinted view on the world.
Tough if they cant take the truth on news and political matters, they isolate themselves into a box.
ferrofluid, Was it Cramer?
I’ll consider Politico seriously, along with ABC News, when they start talking seriously about John McCain. So far, he’s had a free ride. He is not a maverick (he clearly follows Bush and Cheney) and if he continues to support the killing of US troops in Iraq, he will not be a hero.
That piece was dead on, John. I’m sure that’s why people have been linking it. Hillary should concede.
A: Its not.
99 @ 33:
Maybe not concede, but at least play nice with the other Democrat in the race. Save the scortched-earth policy for McSame, if she does happen to get the nomination.
JC @ 9:
hey, weren’t they the one biggest factor in taking down rudy giuliani? at first i thought they were just another vast-right wing vehicle, but at this point it seems they are a legit investigative reporting outfit.
Hail to the Chimp @ 14:
Huh? Hope THAT is sarcasm.
ferrofluid @ 26:
The “Obama Administration”? That’s about as likely as the McGovern, Dukakis, Mondale, Gore, Kerry Adminstrations were.
Wishful thinkin.
party-of-one @ 20:
Why do people STILL come out with these lines? C&L has NEVER endorsed either candidate that I remember. Yet posters STILL come on and point out the Obama bias, or Hillary bias on almost a daily basis. In an earlier thread, I asked if anyone knew the numbers for crack use in the US. Starting to think it is very high.
ferrofluid @ 30:
Some “liberal” sites have gone right apeshiite. I used to listen to Taylor Marsh online. Not since the primaries started. Good grief for an Obama hater. It is beyond just “electioneering” and bordering on complete hate for Obama. But then, she’s basically came right out and said to vote for Hillary because she’s a woman and no other reason. And the teen cheerleaders swarmed.
P.D. @ 31:
banning not sure, but myself (TU) and a few others got vanished ie lost posting rights.
theres a particularly foul mouth Dkosser with a history of using F word in personal attacks on people,
he/she was attacking us in a late night thread, they are still there posting happily with the clique.
no big deal Dkos gets tedious after a while with all the too cosy patting on the back,
and candidate diaries to the exclusion of RL. their loss, maybe they might come to their senses after the Dem conference.
JohnnyTYPICAL WHITE PERSON2Bad @ 38:
a majority of Americans are and will disagree with that come nov 08.
its time for some realistic modern politics with a return to civil and human rights and change.
300 million Americans deserve and demand equal rights.
JohnnyTYPICAL WHITE PERSON2Bad @ 38:
its time to consign the Republicans and their ‘me and nobody else’ policies to the dustbin of history.
JohnnyTYPICAL WHITE PERSON2Bad @ 38:
its time to consign the Republicans and their ‘me and nobody else’ policies to the dustbin of history.
Sadly true that even a site like Talking Points Memo has amnesia about the nature of Politico. A huge disappointment that, after all the fantastic work Josh Marshall has done, he links to them without mentioning that there are states that haven’t voted yet. Those voters deserve the chance to let their choice be known. It’s not over till it’s over and any candidate has the right to be in the race as long as he/she sees chooses. That’s the American promise.
In response to another poster on another thread earlier today I linked to the (admittedly off topic) politico story on the fact that clinton hardly has a chance to legitimately get the nomination. I certainly don’t consider them the authoritative source for anything. Similarly, I don’t consider C&L or any other site the authority for anything.
I read what variety of sources I can find, some regularly (like C&L) and others extremely rarely (like Politico) and with varying degrees of skepticism. But, clock analogies aside, if I think a text is worth linking to or otherwise passing on, I will do so, even if I am not in total agreement with the source on all matters all