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PBS Frontline: The Definitive Account of “Bush’s War”

Tonight on PBS, part two of the Frontline special “Bush’s War” (or as I would call it, McCain’s War) will air. Part one — which covered the period from 9/11 to March 2003 — aired last night was absolutely remarkable in it’s grasp of the entire picture of how and why we are in Iraq. Although things will certainly evolve from where we find ourselves today, this special will undoubtedly be viewed as the definitive account of the Iraq War.

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Check your local listings or watch the entire program online here. Also be sure to check out all the supplemental material that wasn’t included in the broadcast version.




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Rico Says:

Too bad that this magnificant account can’t be consendensed into a 3 minute YouTube video because 3 minutes seems to be the maximum attention span of the typical American voter.

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ConcernedCanuck Says:

You know, I’m Bushed out. Nothing is ever going to happen to this man. No justice will be enacted. It’s sad that a program like this is considered news, when other nations have pretty much said the same things years ago. And still nobody listened. He did it. And like OJ, he will get off.

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EliteLemming Says:

Oh wow, thanks SilentPatriot.

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Billy Says:

Thanks a lot for the link to the You Tube version, instead of
the embedded player. My CPU utilization after opening C&L
dropped from 100% down to 8%, and navigating the site is
once again very fast, nothing hangs, et cetera. Yay!!

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Ryan From Portland Says:

part one was GREAT.

i suggest everyone watch. grab a bottle of wine, a blunt, whatever your poison is, and ENJOY. PBS nailed it.

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Bently Says:

An excellent program and insight into the BushCo brain damaged philosophy.
Begs the question– “WTF are these war criminals STILL in power?”

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Erroll Says:

While it was and still is Bush’s War, it also is the responsibility of the Democrats, who have the power to end the occupation by not voting for the funds for this ill-conceived war. Yet [ perhaps due to political expediency? ] they refuse to act, thereby needlessly condemning many American soldiers to the physical and psychological traumas that they will have to continue to endure for this most unjust occupation of Iraq.

Bring them home-alive and in one piece-now.

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getalife Says:

Watching it now.

“Why We Fight” is very good too.

http://www.sonyclassics.com/whywefight/

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xoites Hussein defends Constitution Says:

You can also watch it online. The entire special is already up.

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trez Says:

There’s no excuse TIVO it, tape it, watch it online, forward the links.

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JohnnyTYPICAL WHITE PERSON2Bad Says:

Saw this the other night. Great stuff though so unbelievably frustrating to watch.

Screaming at the screen won’t do any good. I tried. They still go right on ahead with the madness. And they still are.

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EliteLemming Says:

Support your local PBS stations, it is one of the voices we have left!

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JohnnyTYPICAL WHITE PERSON2Bad Says:

Bently @ 6:

An excellent program and insight into the BushCo brain damaged philosophy.
Begs the question– “WTF are these war criminals STILL in power?”

Simple: Because these criminals won’t do anything about it.

14
Don Davis Says:

Bush’s Legacy will be carved in Stone, on Mount Rush-to-War.

http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=624

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Peter G Says:

Oh I can’t wait to hear what O’reilly has to say about PBS. Standby for calls for the annihilation of PBS by every Republican and rightard on the spectrum.

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xoites Hussein defends Constitution Says:

JohnnyTYPICAL WHITE PERSON2Bad @ 13:

Bently @ 6:

An excellent program and insight into the BushCo brain damaged philosophy.
Begs the question– “WTF are these war criminals STILL in power?”

Simple: Because these criminals won’t do anything about it.

I can only assume the Republican members of the House and Senate are innocent.

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Erroll Says:

getalife @ 8:

Watching it now.

“Why We Fight” is very good too.

http://www.sonyclassics.com/whywefight/

Excellent recommendation, which should be required viewing for every thinking American. To reiterate a phrase from the 60s, one should always question authority, no matter if the administration is Democrat or Republican.

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xoites Hussein (non typical white person) defends Constitution Says:

I have decided to change my name for all the obama bashers.

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Peter G Says:

xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 9:

You can also watch it online. The entire special is already up.

Thanks X. Watching it right now.

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EliteLemming Says:

Erroll @ 17:

getalife @ 8:

Watching it now.

“Why We Fight” is very good too.

http://www.sonyclassics.com/whywefight/

Excellent recommendation, which should be required viewing for every thinking American. To reiterate a phrase from the 60s, one should always question authority, no matter if the administration is Democrat or Republican.

Reminds me, Jefferson said something about dissent…

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EliteLemming Says:

xo, you could just use atypical…

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Pawn Says:

At this time they just stated that as of 5/9/03, Bremer and company were not listening to commanders on the ground, but instead listening to the civilians at the pentagon. Rummy, Wolfowitz, and company.

What happened to listening to the commanders on the ground. They must have been talking about listening to Bremer as a commander as he seemed to be an “emperor”.

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xoites Hussein (non typical white person) defends Constitution Says:

EliteLemming @ 21:

xo, you could just use atypical…

I could, but as many typos as i commit it could be misread.

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RH Potfry Says:

this special will undoubtedly be viewed as the definitive account of the Iraq War.

God, I love it when liberals get themselves worked into a lather and fire off laughable, unsupportable comments like this. It’s great fodder.

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EliteLemming Says:

xoites Hussein (non typical white person) defends Constitution @ 23:

EliteLemming @ 21:

xo, you could just use atypical…

I could, but as many typos as i commit it could be misread.

true. &)

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FOX is State Sponsored TV Says:

I watched last night. It made my fucking blood boil. I won’t watch tonight. I won’t subject myself to it anymore.
It did not present anything I didn’t know already. So I’ll take a pass tonight.

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EliteLemming Says:

RH Potfry @ 24:

this special will undoubtedly be viewed as the definitive account of the Iraq War.

God, I love it when liberals get themselves worked into a lather and fire off laughable, unsupportable comments like this. It’s great fodder.

Well since your going to help work it up, I have a spot needs special attention…

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Pawn Says:

RH Potfry @ 24:

this special will undoubtedly be viewed as the definitive account of the Iraq War.

God, I love it when liberals get themselves worked into a lather and fire off laughable, unsupportable comments like this. It’s great fodder.

Obviously this guy is either joking, or does not realize that much of the senior leadership that was first sent to Iraq are actually speaking on this broadcast

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EliteLemming Says:

FOX is State Sponsored TV @ 26:

I watched last night. It made my fucking blood boil. I won’t watch tonight. I won’t subject myself to it anymore.
It did not present anything I didn’t know already. So I’ll take a pass tonight.

That was part 1, tonight part 2. It’s painful at times but theraputic… I hope.

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Erroll Says:

EliteLemming @ 20:

Erroll @ 17:

getalife @ 8:

Watching it now.

“Why We Fight” is very good too.

http://www.sonyclassics.com/whywefight/

Excellent recommendation, which should be required viewing for every thinking American. To reiterate a phrase from the 60s, one should always question authority, no matter if the administration is Democrat or Republican.

Reminds me, Jefferson said something about dissent…

As well as Howard Zinn, who correctly noted that “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.”

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Col Kilgore Says:

I’m watching part two as i type. It appears many folks who shouldn’t have got cut out of the “loop” around BushCo and Iraq. In fact , it appears the “loop” itself was just Chimp and Dick most of the time. The Decider and the Derider

32
Pawn Says:

I think this episode needs to be redone once the war is over with, and we have a chance to sort out all the facts and reflect on what went wrong when, and what opportunities existed to exit and why they weren’t seized.

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odanny Says:

EliteLemming @ 12:

Support your local PBS stations, it is one of the voices we have left!

Indeed. Our local PBS station almost went under, and in a strongly Repug district, it had tons of donations pour in to pay off its debt on its station (the bank demanded immediate payment)

I think it shows the importance of truth in journalism, even Repugs want it.

Frontline is the best program on television today. I’ll have to watch this special later though, not in the mood for a complete overview of Iraq, I’ve been thru it many times already

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EliteLemming Says:

Col Kilgore @ 31:

I’m watching part two as i type. It appears many folks who shouldn’t have got cut out of the “loop” around BushCo and Iraq. In fact , it appears the “loop” itself was just Chimp and Dick most of the time. The Decider and the Derider

Don’t forget Rummmey*burp*!

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EliteLemming Says:

odanny @ 33:

EliteLemming @ 12:

Support your local PBS stations, it is one of the voices we have left!

Indeed. Our local PBS station almost went under, and in a strongly Repug district, it had tons of donations pour in to pay off its debt on its station (the bank demanded immediate payment)

I think it shows the importance of truth in journalism, even Repugs want it.

Frontline is the best program on television today. I’ll have to watch this special later though, not in the mood for a complete overview of Iraq, I’ve been thru it many times already

It’s all about the Friday night lineup, too!

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xoites Hussein (non typical white person) defends Constitution Says:

Erroll @ 30:

EliteLemming @ 20:

Erroll @ 17:

getalife @ 8:

Excellent recommendation, which should be required viewing for every thinking American. To reiterate a phrase from the 60s, one should always question authority, no matter if the administration is Democrat or Republican.

Reminds me, Jefferson said something about dissent…

As well as Howard Zinn, who correctly noted that “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.”

The quickest way to tell you are living in a free country is if you have access to hear dissent. If you pick up a magazine in a store and want to find out if it is any good, read the letters to the editor. No complaints? Put it back, it is a rag.

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Pawn Says:

Gen Jack Keane takes partial responsibility for a lack of a plan from the offset. He was Army chief of staff. And who does he take orders from directly?

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Pawn Says:

If this evidence exists to display to the American public, why is it coming from PBS and not the Unites States Legislature?

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xoites Hussein (non typical white person) defends Constitution Says:

Pawn @ 38:

If this evidence exists to display to the American public, why is it coming from PBS and not the Unites States Legislature?

Because Bush has used the NSA to get enough dirt on enough of them to blackmail them into submission.

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RickB Says:

That it goes from 911 shows some level of acceptance of the regimes framing, however good it may be it is fundamentally flawed at a conceptual level. Much as calling it Bush’s war. America’s conflict with Iraq began long ago and continued through Bush (1) and Clinton’s terms. It is the American empire’s war.

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L.A. Confidential Says:
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Melton Says:

The main thing that struck me from watching the first half of this (another) great Frontline doc. is what a bunch of petty, self-centered kindergarteners these so-called powerful men (and a woman) are. It’s… baffling. To these people, all of these lives, interests, treasure and responsibilities are mere wooden building blocks with pretty letters painted on them.

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EliteLemming Says:

Ladies and gentleman… we got him.

Ryan From Portland @ 5:

part one was GREAT.

i suggest everyone watch. grab a bottle of wine, a blunt, whatever your poison is, and ENJOY. PBS nailed it.

Can’t do it. It’s like reliving a “long national nightmare” again. I had to turn it off.

Those of us who already know this stuff - read fiasco, cobra II, emerald city, lots of others - don’t need to see it again.

Those who don’t - the faux news, ditto head crowd - wouldn’t be caught dead watching PBS. It harshes their collective buzz.

Cheers

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EliteLemming Says:

Ooh they’re showing McCain confronting Rommey on torture!

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Pawn Says:

We are now on General #3, Gen Casey Jr. in less than 2 years. Not to mention he is the second with no real war experience.

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Pawn Says:

Peace is bought, not created with mutual reconciliation at no cost besides time and communication.

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Pawn Says:

They just showed video of white phosphorous being used over Fallujah, that was so vehemently denied in the past.

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EliteLemming Says:

*munch, munch, chomp* mmphphphughmutphagurt!

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Pawn Says:

Powell = military experience

Dick Cheney + Don Rumsfield = non-experienced military war profiteers

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EliteLemming Says:

Pawn @ 50:

Powell = military experience

Dick Cheney + Don Rumsfield = non-experienced military war profiteers

They were experianced war profiteers, Nam ring a bell, but they were just shareholders then.

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Rico Says:

It’s like watching a train wreck. I don’t have the stomach for it. I’m turning it off.

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RMac Says:

Maybe I was drunk, but it sure seemed to me like it was a piece set up to make everyone BUT the administration look at fault. That Bush and Co. was going to bring home troops just days after the fall of Bagdad, but someone forgot to think about the post-war decisions and jobs that needed to be done. B.S.

In part 2, the blame is led at Tenet’s feet because he offered up bad intelligence. Ugh, excuse me, but what about the dozens of CIA intel-guys who resigned because they wouldn’t go along with faking/dressing up intel to suit the purpose of invasion? I guess Tenet just assumed the whole time it was “real” intel he was receiving and asked no questions about it.

Riiiiight. Not saying he was not to blame and not part of the gang who wanted things skewed to a certain point, but where did he get the idea he needed to do such a thing? He could’ve done what Joe Wilson did and call a spade a spade.