Bush: Violence in Iraq is a "positive moment"

You see, because we're winning if casualties go down, and we're winning if they go up. Got that? We can't lose!

Times of London:

President Bush gave warning yesterday that Iraq’s “fragile situation” required the US to maintain a strong military presence there, even as he defended the withdrawal of British troops from Basra, the scene of heavy fighting in recent days.

In an interview with The Times, he backed the Iraqi Government’s decision to “respond forcefully” to the spiralling violence by “criminal elements” and Shia extremists in Basra. “It was a very positive moment in the development of a sovereign nation that is willing to take on elements that believe they are beyond the law,” the President said.

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Where's the straight jacket?

Bush is a moron.

2+2=5

So if I understand right, the surge is a success if the violence goes up, or if the violence goes down, or if the violence stays the same. Wow what a magical, wonderful thing this surge is.

It's a very positive sign if I have diarrhea since there are no blockages.
It's a very positive sign if I am constipated since I'm not constantly defecating.

I'm starting to think that him running your country was maybe not such a great idea ...

Bush is the decider. The Dictator.

Works like a charm.

Someone not already aware of how our media has become a tool of the Bush administration might have been shocked at how Frontline could have missed one of President George W. Bush’s most telling “signing statements.” Underneath the recent Defense Authorization Act, he wrote that he did not feel bound by the law’s explicit prohibition against using the funding:

“(1) To establish any military installation or base for the purpose of providing for the permanent stationing of United States Armed Forces in Iraq,” or

“(2) To exercise United States control of the oil resources of Iraq.”

earl @ 6:

I'm starting to think that him running your country was maybe not such a great idea ...

ah , wasnt he elected to ruin our country , what a job he done .

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

TWO WORDS - STU PID, oops..that's only one - STUPID!

Even simple enough for this retard to understand...maybe...

"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death."

Adolf Hitler

David N @ 8:

earl @ 6:

I'm starting to think that him running your country was maybe not such a great idea ...

ah , wasnt he elected to ruin our country , what a job he done .

what a job he has done

war is peace
losing is winning.

I can see that Boosh will have no trouble finding a job once he leave the White House:

1.The Crawford Texas distributor for Crapola, formerly located at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, DC
2. Used Car Salesman- "I have a nice one here, folks, a used war (I mean car), low mileage (only 4000 so far), one owner"

The meter on my bullshit detector maxed out a long time ago with this asshole.

David N @ 8:

earl @ 6:

I'm starting to think that him running your country was maybe not such a great idea ...

ah , wasnt he elected to ruin our country , what a job he done .

hell, he wasn't even elected...

We've been winning in Iraq for 5 years, and we've been winning in Afghanistan for 7 years. After all this winning, shouldn't we have won already?

He keeps calling Iraq a sovereign nation. I don't that word means what he thinks it means. I doubt it means "country under occupation" though.

Mike @ 14:

I can see that Boosh will have no trouble finding a job once he leave the White House:

1.The Crawford Texas distributor for Crapola, formerly located at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, DC
2. Used Car Salesman- "I have a nice one here, folks, a used war (I mean car), low mileage (only 4000 so far), one owner"

The meter on my bullshit detector maxed out a long time ago with this asshole.

He'll make millions in appearance fees on the Conservative Tour Circuit don't kid yourself.

L.A. Confidential @ 18:

Mike @ 14:

I can see that Boosh will have no trouble finding a job once he leave the White House:

1.The Crawford Texas distributor for Crapola, formerly located at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, DC
2. Used Car Salesman- "I have a nice one here, folks, a used war (I mean car), low mileage (only 4000 so far), one owner"

The meter on my bullshit detector maxed out a long time ago with this asshole.

He'll make millions in appearance fees on the Conservative Tour Circuit don't kid yourself.

Where's Congress and the Hague when you need them?

Heads I win, tails you lose!

We went in to save the people from the brutality of Saddam and end up fighting the main opposition to Saddam!

Republican logic and we swallow it hook, line and sinker!

Now do you know why they are so anxious to go against Iran?

L.A. Confidential @ 18:

Mike @ 14:

I can see that Boosh will have no trouble finding a job once he leave the White House:

1.The Crawford Texas distributor for Crapola, formerly located at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, DC
2. Used Car Salesman- "I have a nice one here, folks, a used war (I mean car), low mileage (only 4000 so far), one owner"

The meter on my bullshit detector maxed out a long time ago with this asshole.

He'll make millions in appearance fees on the Conservative Tour Circuit don't kid yourself.

Just like his brain, Karl Rove.

L.A. Confidential @ 18:

Mike @ 14:

I can see that Boosh will have no trouble finding a job once he leave the White House:

1.The Crawford Texas distributor for Crapola, formerly located at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, DC
2. Used Car Salesman- "I have a nice one here, folks, a used war (I mean car), low mileage (only 4000 so far), one owner"

The meter on my bullshit detector maxed out a long time ago with this asshole.

He'll make millions in appearance fees on the Conservative Tour Circuit don't kid yourself.

Honestly, it doesn't matter what he does because he is wealthy by birth. He will never have to worry about where his money comes from.

chicano2nd @ 20:

Heads I win, tails you lose!

We went in to save the people from the brutality of Saddam and end up fighting the main opposition to Saddam!

Republican logic and we swallow it hook, line and sinker!

Now do you know why they are so anxious to go against Iran?

I'm still trying to figure out why we invaded Iraq?

Ya Ya Ya.. same guy who said he was a uniter, wanted smaller government. that Iraq had WMDs and that he would fire anyone involved in outing Valerie Plame. New day and new lies but same old asshole.Im months ahead of the 04 election cycle. Im so sick of the lies and bullshit and spin already and it isn't even summer. Cant wait for the Swifties to show up.

navyswan @ 17:

He keeps calling Iraq a sovereign nation. I don't that word means what he thinks it means. I doubt it means "country under occupation" though.

navyswan watch this and you will have your answer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W28CQQsH9S8

Here comes the Drones!

http://tinyurl.com/2v5sys

L.A. Confidential @ 7:

Someone not already aware of how our media has become a tool of the Bush administration might have been shocked at how Frontline could have missed one of President George W. Bush’s most telling “signing statements.” Underneath the recent Defense Authorization Act, he wrote that he did not feel bound by the law’s explicit prohibition against using the funding:

“(1) To establish any military installation or base for the purpose of providing for the permanent stationing of United States Armed Forces in Iraq,” or

“(2) To exercise United States control of the oil resources of Iraq.”

The ending of Part 2 struck me as being somewhat abrupt, so I imagine there will be more to come. Also, at some point you have to decide what to include and what not to; I gathered the story for 'Bush's War' doesn't include an investigation of Halliburton/KBR, for example, or the 'moral clarity' of waterboarding.

As IF this idiot knew anything about fighting for freedom.

What an embarrassing stain on our country this stupid man is.

The administration has descended into self-parody at this point

My God! Is this guy nuts? How can anyone justify carnage as positive? Have I just slipped into the abyss?

Shadowgm @ 27:

L.A. Confidential @ 7:

Someone not already aware of how our media has become a tool of the Bush administration might have been shocked at how Frontline could have missed one of President George W. Bush’s most telling “signing statements.” Underneath the recent Defense Authorization Act, he wrote that he did not feel bound by the law’s explicit prohibition against using the funding:

“(1) To establish any military installation or base for the purpose of providing for the permanent stationing of United States Armed Forces in Iraq,” or

“(2) To exercise United States control of the oil resources of Iraq.”

The ending of Part 2 struck me as being somewhat abrupt, so I imagine there will be more to come. Also, at some point you have to decide what to include and what not to; I gathered the story for 'Bush's War' doesn't include an investigation of Halliburton/KBR, for example, or the 'moral clarity' of waterboarding.

The Frontline documentary was too little too late. WorldLinkTV has much better documentaries on Bush.

P.D. @ 30:

My God! Is this guy nuts? How can anyone justify carnage as positive? Have I just slipped into the abyss?

Hi fellow abyss-nik!

Are gold and silver "criminal elements"?

Baghdad Bob lives! Now he calls himself DC george

Mike @ 14:

I can see that Boosh will have no trouble finding a job once he leave the White House:

1.The Crawford Texas distributor for Crapola, formerly located at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, DC
2. Used Car Salesman- "I have a nice one here, folks, a used war (I mean car), low mileage (only 4000 so far), one owner"

The meter on my bullshit detector maxed out a long time ago with this asshole.

"This car only has 45,000 miles...it's barely broken in!"

"This car has 145,000 miles...it's dependable!"

What is even more pathetic is how MSM regurgitates this spiel all while keeping straight faces.

maya @ 36:

What is even more pathetic is how MSM regurgitates this spiel all while keeping straight faces.

That's how you know they're doing their jobs.

Okay, give him credit when he spoke a few minutes ago. He did say that, regarding what is going on in Basra, that people would be hurt and it's sad. Just listen to the compassion in that remark.

(snark bite)

“It was a very positive moment in the development of a sovereign nation that is willing to take on elements that believe they are beyond the law,” the President said.

Does that mean we can finally prosecute Bush and Co. for the crimes they've committed against U.S. citizens, and to think that signing statements are legal?

The British are getting the fuck out.

L.A. Confidential @ 18:

Mike @ 14:

I can see that Boosh will have no trouble finding a job once he leave the White House:

1.The Crawford Texas distributor for Crapola, formerly located at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, DC
2. Used Car Salesman- "I have a nice one here, folks, a used war (I mean car), low mileage (only 4000 so far), one owner"

The meter on my bullshit detector maxed out a long time ago with this asshole.

He'll make millions in appearance fees on the Conservative Tour Circuit don't kid yourself.

As long as he dons the Chimpy Presidential uniform, wearing a red nose, face grease painted and large floppy shoes.

i don't want to defend bush by any stretch of the imagination, but if the iraqis manage to get Sadr's militias under their thumb, with malaki running the show, it could be a very good sign that the iraqi gov't has some stones.

Of course, if they fail, it means that the iraqis will continue to suffer with a weak gov't and anarchy.

It's not a good sign that Malaki extended the deadline to 10 days for the militias to give up.

:(

Earl@6;

You too!!?? What a coincidence... I've been thinking the same thing... for about the last eight years... Too bad there isn't an 'authority' in this country now who will take on the 'elements' in this government who think they are beyond the law.... You know, like Bush and Cheney...You'd think that might be congress.... yea, you'd think.....But evidently you'd be wrong nowadays... All I can say is it wasn't always like this... Not THIS freakin bad anyway.................JD

RB-Chicago @ 10:

TWO WORDS - STU PID, oops..that's only one - STUPID!

Even simple enough for this retard to understand...maybe...

Doubt it. Too many syllables.

You should have seen Ed Henry going on how strong Bush was in his speech. ???? That speech sent chills down my spine.

greg @ 40:

The British are getting the fuck out.

That was announced months ago. Tony Blair lost his job because of this clusterf*&k.

Of course, they have a real government, where they actually listen to the people.

This is all just the build-up for the false flag event that will catapult John McCain into office. Al Qaeda will be blamed for a nuclear incident, and our 'leaders' in the Dominionist cabal hiding in the basements of the Pentagon and Capitol will unfurl the flag and charge forth to reclaim the Holy Land and turn it into a land full of holes.

Warheads go on a trip from Minott AFB to Barksdale AFB. Nobody knows they were onboard, but we're told they were under 'positive control' at all times.

Fuses get shipped to Taiwan instead of batteries, but it takes the Taiwanese a full year to ask where the batteries are. We are told the fuses were returned in their packing materials.

Now, SecDef Gates orders a complete inventory of all nuclear armaments across the armed forces. It's a little late for that, isn't it?

Leslie @ 23:

chicano2nd @ 20:

Heads I win, tails you lose!

We went in to save the people from the brutality of Saddam and end up fighting the main opposition to Saddam!

Republican logic and we swallow it hook, line and sinker!

Now do you know why they are so anxious to go against Iran?

I'm still trying to figure out why we invaded Iraq?

1. To get rid of those weapons of mass destruction. Which was really much easier than we thought it'd be since they didn't exist. Even Bush thought it was funny and made a cute little video about him searching for the weapons and not finding them. It made all the media folks chuckle.

2. To protect the Iraqis from a brutal dictator. Remember, Saddam gassed the Kurds? But it's OK for Turkey to bomb the crap out of the same Kurds a few weeks ago because they're an ally.

3. To spread freedom and democracy! Purple fingers anyone? Iraq is a free country now and apparently the Iraqi people are choosing to die and be maimed in mass numbers. Not our fault they don't want to live in peace after we showed them how do do it by bombing their country for the past 16 years.

greg @ 40:

The British are getting the fuck out.

theres benefits to being near the sea or a nearby border, quick easy escapes with minimum casualties.
Its basic mil training and common sense to have an escape route planned if things get too nasty.
The name Basra rang big alarm bells on the future likely outcome way back.

Shadowgm @ 47:

This is all just the build-up for the false flag event that will catapult John McCain into office. Al Qaeda will be blamed for a nuclear incident, and our 'leaders' in the Dominionist cabal hiding in the basements of the Pentagon and Capitol will unfurl the flag and charge forth to reclaim the Holy Land and turn it into a land full of holes.

Warheads go on a trip from Minott AFB to Barksdale AFB. Nobody knows they were onboard, but we're told they were under 'positive control' at all times.

Fuses get shipped to Taiwan instead of batteries, but it takes the Taiwanese a full year to ask where the batteries are. We are told the fuses were returned in their packing materials.

Now, SecDef Gates orders a complete inventory of all nuclear armaments across the armed forces. It's a little late for that, isn't it?

What type of steak do you serve with mushroom cloud?

Oh...I forgot...HUMAN.

The giggling murderer doesn't even know what he's saying anymore. He's Captain Queeg, deluded and paranoid, rolling the steel balls around in his hand. He's nuts, and he' still very dangerous.

"Defining Moment"?? Double irony. If he thinks a "moment" is five years, his ability to define anything comes into question. For a moment.

Monday, March 24, 2008
TEHRAN: An American nuclear submarine has crossed the Suez Canal to join the US fleet stationed in the Persian Gulf, Egyptian sources say.

Nothing to worry about. Just going after the insurgents.

Bob @ 5:

It's a very positive sign if I have diarrhea since there are no blockages.
It's a very positive sign if I am constipated since I'm not constantly defecating.

V. good, Bob!! Can't argue w/it. I'm adopting this philosophy for my life.

D.G. Bowman @ 51:

The giggling murderer doesn't even know what he's saying anymore. He's Captain Queeg, deluded and paranoid, rolling the steel balls around in his hand. He's nuts, and he' still very dangerous.

The word is psychotic.

However, the real issue is...who are the crazy ones.

I mean...everytime Chimpy McBoom McBoom makes a statement...we act allll shocked to shit about it. I would ask you...what is the definition of insanity...and who are the ones displaying characteristics of insanity.

Liberal AND Proud @ 50:

Shadowgm @ 47:

This is all just the build-up for the false flag event that will catapult John McCain into office. Al Qaeda will be blamed for a nuclear incident, and our 'leaders' in the Dominionist cabal hiding in the basements of the Pentagon and Capitol will unfurl the flag and charge forth to reclaim the Holy Land and turn it into a land full of holes.

Warheads go on a trip from Minott AFB to Barksdale AFB. Nobody knows they were onboard, but we're told they were under 'positive control' at all times.

Fuses get shipped to Taiwan instead of batteries, but it takes the Taiwanese a full year to ask where the batteries are. We are told the fuses were returned in their packing materials.

Now, SecDef Gates orders a complete inventory of all nuclear armaments across the armed forces. It's a little late for that, isn't it?

What type of steak do you serve with mushroom cloud?

Oh...I forgot...HUMAN.

"And how would you like that done, Sir?"
"Medium, please."
"I am sorry, Sir, but we only serve that dish Tartare or well-done ..."

Time for a new Wikipedia entry:

43 (number)

The number of the Bush presidency.

In America, the number is associated with lying, stupidity, arrogance, incompetence, and cruelty, all characteristics of George W. Bush's reign as Commander-in-Chief.

References

[insert any one of the million articles, books, or films depicting the horros of his presidency]

CafeenMan @ 44:

RB-Chicago @ 10:

TWO WORDS - STU PID, oops..that's only one - STUPID!

Even simple enough for this retard to understand...maybe...

Doubt it. Too many syllables.

How about "Dumb" - does that work? I will say though that blaming Bush for this mess is like blaming Ronald McDonald for the shit served in his restaurant. He's just the mascot, a clown to put a smile on the faces of the customers eating up the crap.

L.A. Confidential @ 53:

Monday, March 24, 2008
TEHRAN: An American nuclear submarine has crossed the Suez Canal to join the US fleet stationed in the Persian Gulf, Egyptian sources say.

Nothing to worry about. Just going after the insurgents.

It's the Dick Cheney style of hunting. Going after small game with a bazooka.

Shadowgm @ 47:

Warheads go on a trip from Minott AFB to Barksdale AFB. Nobody knows they were onboard, but we're told they were under 'positive control' at all times.

Warheads !!! these were armed cruise missiles loaded up onto aircraft wing pylons in breach of SALT 2.

plus the four Minuteman nuclear triggers shipped off to Taiwan in mistake last year...DOH

earl @ 6:

I'm starting to think that him running your country was maybe not such a great idea ...

You must not be a bank owner, energy exec, war contractor or TV televangelist.

Liberal AND Proud @ 59:

It's the Dick Cheney style of hunting. Going after small game with a bazooka.

Actually it's about 300 people in this country who's entire lives and fortunes are on the edge and teetering and securing more oil fields is their only option.

Sad to say anyway

And what does Mighty McCain have to say about this 'positive moment'? Funny, I haven't seen him on MSM today. And given it's Friday( Dump day in the news world) he will slide under the radar, yet again.

L.A. Confidential @ 53:

Monday, March 24, 2008
TEHRAN: An American nuclear submarine has crossed the Suez Canal to join the US fleet stationed in the Persian Gulf, Egyptian sources say.

Nothing to worry about. Just going after the insurgents.

How many ships and submarines do we have in the Gulf now? The Bushies are also going after Iran in an economic Shock & Awe, while they negotiate with Maliki for a permanent presence in Iraq for years even decades to come.

This is why Bush got rid of Fallon. It wasn't because Fallon was opposed to war with Iran. Fallon described them as "ants," you "crush ants." Fallon disagreed about the timing, the logistics. So Fallon is out, and Bush installs someone who really knows how to kowtow for his planned war expansion.

The Surge is working! The Surge is working! Just ask God! Ask the angels! Ask Tinkerbell over there!

CNN Headline "Is Obama to Liberal" I was wondering when they would say L-word. We better hide under our beds!

...and it's getting such great coverage in the MSM!

I bet this is a last ditch effort to get Iran to intervene (or to be thought to intervene).

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Impeach
Try
Convict
Imprison

P.D. @ 63:

And what does Mighty McCain have to say about this 'positive moment'? Funny, I haven't seen him on MSM today. And given it's Friday( Dump day in the news world) he will slide under the radar, yet again.

ferrofluid @ 60:

Shadowgm @ 47:

Warheads go on a trip from Minott AFB to Barksdale AFB. Nobody knows they were onboard, but we're told they were under 'positive control' at all times.

Warheads !!! these were armed cruise missiles loaded up onto aircraft wing pylons in breach of SALT 2.

plus the four Minuteman nuclear triggers shipped off to Taiwan in mistake last year...DOH

Grandpa takes Fridays off.

P.D. @ 66:

CNN Headline "Is Obama to Liberal" I was wondering when they would say L-word. We better hide under our beds!

And he's BLACK!!! Hide the wimins!!!

Chimpy : sounding more and more like the kid in "Big Daddy" , who claims no matter the hand that he's dealt , "I win" ............

Dow just went negative.

P.D. @ 63:

And what does Mighty McCain have to say about this 'positive moment'? Funny, I haven't seen him on MSM today. And given it's Friday( Dump day in the news world) he will slide under the radar, yet again.

He has his face reset to hide the scar he's sporting ; plus , he's got a half-day colonic ......

REM 'Its the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine!

Leslie @ 64:

How many ships and submarines do we have in the Gulf now?

Enough to easily drown in the bathtub a lot of basic domestic programs.

Get the President on the line, I've got a Bush I want to sell him, I mean a bridge, hell let's sell him all the bridges. Hey GW, read my lips, no more Bush's.

You guys are right! I guess McCain needs a nap to recover from that $1000 plate fundraiser with Romney!

P.D. @ 76:

You guys are right! I guess McCain needs a nap to recover from that $1000 plate fundraiser with Romney!

I hope he had the chicken. If he ate a steak he's gonna be clogged for days. Not pretty. I wonder how you write THAT press release when you have to cancel an appearance.

pissed off patricia @ 34:

Baghdad Bob lives! Now he calls himself DC george

???

We're winning our mission to bring Grande Lattes and Big Macs to the Middle East!!

You see, I drink all the beer, thereby taking care of my drinking problem.

Samson- @ 15:

David N @ 8:

earl @ 6:

I'm starting to think that him running your country was maybe not such a great idea ...

ah , wasnt he elected to ruin our country , what a job he done .

hell, he wasn't even elected...

TWICE!!! and with a little luck you will have his third term carried out by McCain

Maybe the MSM can now explain columns of black smoke rising from one of the two main oil pipelines passing through the port-transit city of Basra, and why rocket-propelled grenades and mortar rounds are splashing onto the Green Zone like a storm?

L.A. Confidential @ 82:

Maybe the MSM can now explain columns of black smoke rising from one of the two main oil pipelines passing through the port-transit city of Basra, and why rocket-propelled grenades and mortar rounds are splashing onto the Green Zone like a storm?

We must reinstitute the draft!!!

L.A. Confidential @ 82:

Maybe the MSM can now explain columns of black smoke rising from one of the two main oil pipelines passing through the port-transit city of Basra, and why rocket-propelled grenades and mortar rounds are splashing onto the Green Zone like a storm?

as soon as the white house tells them what to say

♣Bangkok Bob♠ @ 78:

pissed off patricia @ 34:

Baghdad Bob lives! Now he calls himself DC george

???

are you dissing me for calling bush an idiot?

black smoke = freedom smoke

Leslie @ 16:

We've been winning in Iraq for 5 years, and we've been winning in Afghanistan for 7 years. After all this winning, shouldn't we have won already?

The point isn't to win, but to keep winning.

If you win, someone has to lose.

This way, everyone can be winners.

The sight of the Pretzelnit's face drooping on one side and drool running out of the edge of his mouth would be a "positive moment".

The shit is too deep for waders anymore. (Actually it's been too deep since the beginning.)

♣Bangkok Bob♠ @ 85:

♣Bangkok Bob♠ @ 78:

pissed off patricia @ 34:

Baghdad Bob lives! Now he calls himself DC george

???

are you dissing me for calling bush an idiot?

I think she was talking about the Baghdad Bob of fame from the initial invasion who kept saying US forces were losing and Saddam was winning.

Boy how things have changed and yet, much remains the same. It was only 5 years ago that Bush and his boys where telling us right around this time, wild yarns about weapons of mass destruction, mushroom clouds, and other fantastic things that never existed or came from Iraq.

Now, they are trying to fill our heads with thoughts of "victory", "the surge is working", and other things that they can not possibly achieve.

I'm so fucking sick of this bullshit. He simply never tells the truth.

Planet of Barbarians

Nicely taken out of context. The rabid fascination of the far left to portray Bush as celebrating death has reached new comic heights.

He said it was a positive moment in the development of a sovereign nation. Because they did something, began to assert themselves.

He never said the violence, in and of itself, was positive. Ever. But that's an inconvenient truth, eh?

Can I get a chorus of "Bush Lied, People Died?"

Left&Left @ 92:

I'm so fucking sick of this bullshit. He simply never tells the truth.

Nope, he never does. That is why I never listen to him. I tune him out. In fact, every time he happens to come on a television station that I am watching I usually pick up the remote and turn it to anther channel. It does me no good to listen to a complusive liar.

Even if the Green Zone were nuked, the surge would be declared a success.

McCain the Liar @ 11:

"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death."

Adolf Hitler


Godwin's Law!