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Lieberman makes the Zell Miller transition final: ‘…the Democratic Party changed’

On ABC’s THIS WEEK, they played a clip of Joe Lieberman saying he wanted a Democratic Congress and President in the White House back in ‘06. ( h/t Nedheads for the clip on TW) When Stephanopoulos asked him why he’s backing St. McCain, he said some very interesting things—

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LIEBERMAN: I want Democrats to be back in the majority in Washington and elect a Democratic president in 2008.

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STEPHANOPOULOS: And Senator Joe Lieberman joins us now. You’re now an independent senator from Connecticut. But no one in your position has ever crossed over like this. You ran for vice president as a Democrat in 2000, ran for president as a Democrat in 2000. And now you are backing John McCain. What do you say to Democrats who say that that shows you’ve abandoned a lifetime of commitments?

LIEBERMAN: Well, I say that the Democratic Party changed. The Democratic Party today was not the party it was in 2000. It’s not the Bill Clinton-Al Gore party, which was strong internationalists, strong on defense, pro-trade, pro-reform in our domestic government.

It’s been effectively taken over by a small group on the left of the party that is protectionist, isolationist and basically will –and very, very hyperpartisan. So it pains me.

He responded like Zell Miller because bloggers and activists made him lose the Democratic primary in CT over his warmongering. Zell Lieberman then was caught in a bunch of distortions by George. As he’s questioned on St. McCain’s right wing agenda, the agenda that he’s been opposed to for his whole career, here’s his response:

LIEBERMAN: No, I’m saying two things. First, as a matter of fact, George, John McCain is not for the private accounts to take the
place of Social Security. He’s for what Bill Clinton used to call “Social Security-plus.”

STEPHANOPOULOS: He disputed that in The Wall Street Journal this month, though.

LIEBERMAN: Yes. I think that’s right. But let me — there are two reasons why I support John McCain, when I did in December and I announced it, and I feel even more strongly about it today.

Well CT, here’s your man. He’s lying when his lips move today because he’s a warmonger through and through. And Zell is supporting this war with Iraq while pushing for another war with Iran as hard as he can..(Yes, that’s an old joke.) St. McCain fills the bill for him on this issue completely. He throws out the bipartisan theme he talks about all the time now since he was ousted from the party. You know—reach across party lines to fix health care and what-not. OK Joe, the right wingers will NOT work with McCain on immigration—they shut him and the bill down so he had to flip flop on his position. Oh, and forget about health care reform for this country if McCain is elected. The economy you ask? Hahahaha! The mortgage crisis maybe? Hahaha. The Social Security gaffe was a major, major problem for Joe, but he just blew it off as if the question wasn’t asked. I guess Zelieberman missed Lindsey Graham whispering in his ear the correct answer…(updated the post)




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1
Wes Says:

Joe Lieberman doesn’t like the fact that the entire democratic party isn’t owned by AIPAC like he is.

2
bumphus Says:

Hey, don’t blame me. I voted for Ned Lamont. Twice. All I can say is I’ll betcha this will be his last term, flying spaghetti monster willing….

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Rico Says:

Lieberman today is just as bad as he was in 1999 when he was a Democratic darling. Then, when questioned by Patrick Buchanan on NBC’s Meet the Press on April 25, 1999 about the morality of bombing civilian targets in Serbia, Lieberman said: “I hope the air campaign, even if it does not convince Milosevic to order his troops out of Kosovo, will so devastate his economy, which it’s doing now, so ruin the lives of his people, that they will rise up and throw him out.”

One doesn’t need to be an expert in international law or the Geneva Conventions to know that terrorizing civilians, destroying their economy, ruining their lives so as to get them to change their government is a war crime.

Welcome to the future of Iran, Iraq and anybody else who gets in “their” way.

4
Otay Says:

LIEberman:

The Democratic Party changed

Translation:

The Democratic Party doesn’t love me. Waaaa…

5
TURK MEISTER Says:

Joe, a true republican, has mastered the art of projection.

6
yoda Morganstern Says:

Zell LIE-berman (I-LIE) is a pathetic warmonger who lied to the people of CT to get re-elected. He is a perfect fit for Bomber McCain. The I stands for Israel, not independent, and we all know what the LIE stands for….

Good riddance, Joe…where will you be next year at this time?

7
willie Says:

i had the unfortunate timing of watching lieberman while trying to eat breakfast. not recommended. the sound of his voice sickened me and his answers made it far worse than i would have thought possible. like a true repube, he was full of distortion, revision, fear mongering and war mongering.

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Lone Says:

Yes, Joe, join with the Republicans because for the last 7+ years that party, its members, and the entire Republican Bush/Cheney administration have been so very bi-partisan. There is only one reason Joe is a McCain supporter and that is his preferrence for more war, no matter how much it costs this country in blood and treasure.

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Ted Says:

[Deleted. Off topic-Sitemonitor]

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arjay8 Says:

The most interesting moment in the show was when George Will called “fair” a four-letter word and that he had to teach his kids to never use it. Says a lot about conservatives that fairness, and hence justice, is anathema to them.

11
L.A. Confidential Says:

The whole fu*king top 1% left-right-middle whatever is corrupt to the core.

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midwestvoter Says:
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getalife Says:

He warmongered on Iran again today.

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Filthy Harry Says:

If he wants to maintain any kind of power he doesn’t have much of a choice than to back McCain. This isn’t about ideology at all as much as it is about Lieberman trying to keep a hold on power.

See, he has power now because by choosing to caucus with the Dems in the senate, he give them the majority they need to control the committees and name the chairpersons. The Dems have to repay him by making him a chairperson of a powerful committee. IF however the Dems gain a somewhat larger majority in the Senate in 2008 which is looking very likely, then the Dems will have NO reason to acquiesce to him and he’ll just be the junior senator from CT, with no authority or power. Thus his only hope is to kiss McCain’s ass and hope for a high powered position in his admin if he wins.

In other words, he’s all in.

15
blue Says:

someone, anyone, should apply a ‘liberal’ dose of preparation h to repiglican hemmroids head …….. that would in fact solve the problem

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Rico Says:

getalife @ 13:

He warmongered on Iran again today.

He’s an equal opportunity war mongerer. He was the principal cheerleader for the Clintons when the decision was made to bomb the entire civilian infrastructure of another sovereign nation that posed no threat to the United States.

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Eric Jaffa Says:

Ted @ 9:

Now that Obama is the likely nominee there’s obviously no room for Lieberman, or any Jew, for that matter in the Democrat party.

Joe Lieberman was Obama’s mentor when he started in the US Senate. That makes no sense.

I’m Jewish and I support Obama.

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Fil Says:

Joe’s Zionisme demonstrates that is patriotisme is not with America but with Isreal.
There is nothing anti-semetic in calling someone a zioniste. It’s two different things.

Joe is not fighting for America, he is fighting for Isreal and this is where his priorities lie.
And people with half a brain can see this for themselves.

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran……… common people. use your ears and your eyes.

19
Helloworld Says:

I still don’t believe he beat Ned Lamont legitimately. Doesn’t past the smell test…

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JHR Says:

I saw this segment………….I also couldn’t help but notice that Lieberman has very bad teeth………at least the ones on the bottom because when he speaks, you can’t see his upper teeth.

Strange……….oh, and the things he was saying we’re disgusting. He has no credibility whatsoever.

arjay8 @ 10:

The most interesting moment in the show was when George Will called “fair” a four-letter word and that he had to teach his kids to never use it. Says a lot about conservatives that fairness, and hence justice, is anathema to them.

George Will - another Bush-enabler who was wrong about pretty much everything (except a couple of his baseball columns). He should be sent to Iraq to help those poor people.

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Rico Says:

Eric Jaffa @ 17:

Ted @ 9:

Now that Obama is the likely nominee there’s obviously no room for Lieberman, or any Jew, for that matter in the Democrat party.

Joe Lieberman was Obama’s mentor when he started in the US Senate. That makes no sense.

I’m Jewish and I support Obama.

Lieberman was the favorite of every Democrat when he was toting baggage for the Clinton war machine in the Balkans. It wouldn’t surprise me a bit that if Hillary were able to win the nomination, the scum-bag Lieberman would come running back to the Democratic fold, and Hillary would welcome him back with open arms. Count on it.

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DonsBlog Says:

Joe is just determined to make it into the administration one way or the other. He knows he doesn’t have a snowball’s chance with the current Democratic contenders.

I’d guess he’s going for either Defense Secretary or DoS. Either way, he’ll be able to keep up the bomb, bomb the middle east campaign.

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lost_nacf_gop Says:

The party changed? it pains you?

Come on down to my street Joey, I’ll show you some pain.
Little weasel puts the “con” in “Connecticut”

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jimbo92107 Says:

Wanna see something funny? Watch for this: When (not if) Lieberman speaks at the Republican Convention in Minneapolis, he will drop the “-ic” from Democratic. Suddenly it will be the “Democrat Party has changed…” [Cue wild applause]

Yet Joe Lieberman has remained the same. That’s right, all along he was a Republican.

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katy Says:

The Social Security gaffe was a major, major problem for Joe, but he just blew it off as if the question wasn’t asked.

and george just LET him…
and that wasn’t the only time… i could only listen from another room as LIEberman’s smushy smarmyness is just too ugly to watch…

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billlaurelmd Says:

Ted @ 9:

Now that Obama is the likely nominee there’s obviously no room for Lieberman, or any Jew, for that matter in the Democrat party.

Hmmm. I think you should ask these folks what they think about your comment.

Oh…and by the way, you gave yourself away with your misuse of a noun as an adjective. It’s DemocratIC party, or do you approve of Sen. Joe McCarthy’s use of the term (and his behavior)?

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uncle joe hussein mccarthy Says:

so in two short years, the party totally changed????

eff him

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billlaurelmd Says:

Filthy Harry @ 14:

If he wants to maintain any kind of power he doesn’t have much of a choice than to back McCain. This isn’t about ideology at all as much as it is about Lieberman trying to keep a hold on power.

No no no…it *IS* about ideology…the ideology of Joe.

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Newton Minnow Says:

There is only one issue for lieberman: Israel.

From Oct. 2004:

“Lieberman, with just three weeks left before the election, praised Bush strongly for his support of Israel, America’s lone democratic ally in the Mid-East.

“We are dealing with a president who’s had a record of strong, consistent support for Israel. You can’t say otherwise,” Lieberman told an audience of 600 near Delray Beach, Fla, the Palm Beach Post reported in editions Thursday.

Lieberman also added that any criticism of Bush vis-à-vis Israel would be “unjustified.”

After the speech, the paper said Lieberman spoke to reporters and suggested that “Bush appears to have made inroads with Jewish voters, who voted Democratic by an estimated 4-to-1 margin in 2000.”

But Lieberman indicated Kerry’s support among Jews may be softer, and he chided the Democratic nominee for not coming out more strongly for Israel.

“And I think John Kerry, to reassure people, has to himself be explicit” rather than having surrogates deliver the message, the Post quoted Lieberman as saying.

Lieberman alluded to worries among Jews about Kerry’s position on Israel. Lieberman bluntly revealed that he has asked the Kerry campaign to have John Kerry himself discuss his views on Israel because “only John Kerry can eliminate those doubts.”

Lieberman made clear he is still staunchly supporting Kerry for president.

“I am here to tell you that John Kerry has also been a strong and consistent supporter of Israel and will continue that fight as president,” Lieberman said, noting Kerry’s commitment to health care, the environment, education and his position on Supreme Court appointments.”

http://archive.newsmax.com/arc.....1645.shtml

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Mike Says:

lost_nacf_gop @ 24:

The party changed? it pains you?

Come on down to my street Joey, I’ll show you some pain.
Little weasel puts the “con” in “Connecticut”

The only pain I’ve feeling right now is the one in my ass from listening to this lying fuckhead. LIEberman knows he hasn’t got a chance outside of kissing McCain’s ass; I pray that Connecticut will either impeach or recall this sorry sack of shit.

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katy Says:

if he’s not trying to start a flame war, sure sounds like ted @9 is forgetting that joe himself left the democratic party…

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Bush is Ossama Says:

Lieberman has always been such a sack of shit - The real CRIME is that the demParty didn’t throw his ass out YEARS AGO. They let themselves be used and abused and swiftboated to irelivency.

AND NOW for somthing really different we have Obama who just can’t wait to work with the republicans!!
I say take the silly, distracting and FRAUDULENT little horse race off the table and focus on somthing more reality based.

All this while they ‘re-organize’ the countries fanancial masters…
And I am sure it is just a coincidence that Spitzer just got taken out of the game….

Let Liberman run as Oldstains VP - Hell yeah!! That’s a true bypartisan.

Impeach 1st
Hang 2nd
Before it is too late!!!
Of course Dick too.

34
Dom Says:

One of the greatest pleasures that would be bestowed upon us by a major Democratic victory in November would be to see this ratfink mother-fucker kicked to the curb and having to join his beloved rethugs for good. I think it’s about time the Dems start treating guys like Joe the Ho the same way the rethugs handle traitors to their party - kick the bastards out!!!

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Rico Says:

Bush is Ossama @ 33:

Lieberman has always been such a sack of shit - The real CRIME is that the demParty didn’t throw his ass out YEARS AGO. They let themselves be used and abused and swiftboated to irelivency.

AND NOW for somthing really different we have Obama who just can’t wait to work with the republicans!!
I say take the silly, distracting and FRAUDULENT little horse race off the table and focus on somthing more reality based.

All this while they ‘re-organize’ the countries fanancial masters…
And I am sure it is just a coincidence that Spitzer just got taken out of the game….

Let Liberman run as Oldstains VP - Hell yeah!! That’s a true bypartisan.

Impeach 1st
Hang 2nd
Before it is too late!!!
Of course Dick too.

I guess you missed today the praise and love that Joe still has left in his heart for the young Bill Clinton. Trust me when I tell you that a Hillary nomination would have him back in the Democratic fold in a heartbeat. It would be a joyful reunion of the war wing of the Democratic party: the Clintons, the Albrights, the Holebrooks, the Wesley Clarks, and the Liebermans.

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Orangutan. Says:

And to think the Democrats chose to support this loser over the qualified candidate Ned Lamont is sickening. I hope they all know what a mistake that was and make an effort to not allow for this in the future. Damn.

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Medical Diagnosis by Video Says:

For him it is all about Israel and being an Israeli agent. That is all.

38
Michael Says:

Now, come on! I don’t agree with Joe on anything except for Israel when it comes to national security, but he actually DOES hold progressive positions on many issues including health care and the environment. He’s certainly a moderate, but he’s no Zell Miller…..he was a true DINO that agreed with the Republicans on damn near everything. Joe is just on their side with foreign policy and trade. I heartily disagree with him, but let’s not sit here and flame the hell out of him and act like he’s an evil man. He’s misguided on foreign policy.

39
Big Dick Cheney Says:

makes me ashamed to be a jew…
ashamed to be from CT…
ashamed to be about the same height…

COULD WE PLEASE REMASTER LIARMAN AS A MUCH SHORTER ALMISH WOMAN…
…..

I WONDER IF CT HAS CONSIDERED A RECOUNT!!!!

40
CheezeBox Says:

He is for Israel first and all at the expensive of the US. That makes him a traitor.

…oh and “Islamist Facist” makes no sense dumb ass.

41
pinkobait Says:

Oh Joe aren’t you special.
After 7 years of an iron fisted utterly uncompromising Republican Tyranny in which regardless of the issue or bill,the Republicans have consistently,steadfastly refused to budge one single inch you decide that the Democratic Party have become “hyper partisan”.How DOES that work Joe?

42
Rich in San Bruno Says:

Who is he kidding??? JFK would laugh wth his comparison to McCain by this Sell-out!!! We don’t need people like him in the Democratic Party…Don’t let the door hit your sorry ass on your way to the republican party.

43
Smarmy Says:

Lieberman, come November, will be totally and completely irrelevant. It won’t matter which party he graces. He’ll be invisible.

44
gussmith Says:

I do not appreciate (like) Lieberman but I can appreciate someone who stands up for what he believes irrespective of political party. We will never achieve our greatest democracy if we all take party line positions and there are only two parties of consequence. So let Lieberman, flip-flop or evolve, whatever, as he is inconsequential. But we can benefit from assessing his independence and support for positions important to him.

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JasonS Says:

Well, I’m just glad that Ralph Nader was able to single-handedly prevent Joe from becoming Vice President. Thanks Ralph!

46
ya know Says:

How did the foks in CT get bamboozled into voting for this joker? What a waist of taxpayer money.

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cadaverdog Says:

Joe Lieberman; he put the “Con” in “Connecticut”

Seems to me the Democratic party of the great state of Connecticut ought to begin a RECALL of their junior Senator. It may not happen, but it would go a long way toward restoring their reputation.

To put it in a words even Joe can understand; what a schmuck.