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Nicole Belle on Wednesday, April 2nd, 2008 at 3:20 PM - PDT
The March 2003 Yoo Memo Emerges! : The Torture Memo to Top All Torture Memos
This is the document that should be framed forevermore as the legacy of the Bush/Cheney White House. Thanks to the ACLU for forcing the White House to bring it out for scrutiny.
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Torture Yoo !
Big, big trouble for Mr. Yoo.
John Yoo is a particularly odious member of Team Treason aka Bushco.
When the people involved with this, who can be shown to have committed crimes in sanctioning these obscene crimes to happen, are charged, convicted and sentenced appropriately, I will again have a slim, basic pride in the country of my birth. Until then, I remain an angry, ashamed, betrayed American.
Stanford should be so proud to have this war criminal as a professor of law.
Thank you ACLU…
I’m sending you a large chunk of my rebate check!!!!!!! (Keeping it in the U.S.)
If an attorney advocates breaking of existing law, shouldn’t that same attorney be disbarred?
Section 2576A is missing.
Non-collateralized debt, such as credit card debt in the post-bankruptcy-reform era, is secured by the threat of force — be it breaking legs or garnering wages.
Just have a question; I read something about this last night that said the actual memo gotten by the ACLU only talked about small things like shoving and slapping. Is that all that was OK’d by it?
I’m confused
Oh wait, now I see the memo links. I’ll look at it.
what a piece of SH** this guys is
Hasn’t he been disbarred yet?
Fact is, the ACLU, who the present administration regards as a communist, extreme right wing organization, has done it’s job. That job is to keep the American public informed of the deeds of our elected representative.
That being said, a big THANK YOU to the ACLU.
The information is not something we didn’t know, but now the monster has been yanked out from under the bed. It is up to the American people to keep this kind of news in the front of the media and when the time comes, have it ready to be put forth as evidence of extreme wrongdoing.
If none none of this gets to trial, then America can not heal.
Even if Yoo had done nothing wrong in his life, he comes off as such a horse’s ass when he appears on tv. He acts as though he is the all knowing when it comes to law. I hope his ass gets canned along with anyone else that facilitated this action.
Make sure you read some of the excellent comments on the ACLU page as they bring out points of particular interest as well as bringing in the footnotes that are important. I think this document is going to get a lot of review from the legal community as well as human rights groups.
A message from me to Yoo. Fuck Yoo, yes, fuck you.
Any bets about when we’ll hear serious discussion of this on tv?
Right now I’m extra proud of the ACLU card in my purse.
mezurashiiiken @ 4:
agreed….it’s time obama and clinton started making commitments to prosecute these thugs, from monica goodling to john yoo to gonzalez to bush…
if they all walk away smirking, wealthy, and proud of all they did, without repercussion, then even an obama presidency won’t mean all that much….
enor @ 6:
Thanks ACLU. I wish I would get a rebate check, I get to pay - not rebated. Sorry. I still have to eat.
McBush/Yoo 08
For a torturous future!
Whoops, meant the comments on the Balkin site and not the ACLU. Sorry about that.
And I agree, my money goes to the ACLU now and not to the politicians. The ACLU watches out for us more than our elected officials do.
How did everyone miss this in 03?
Pursang @ 5:
I am actually currently employed at the University of California at Berkeley.
In a time of war the President is the Unitary Executive. What he says goes, whether you like it or not.
I’ve been rather ticked at some of the stuff the ACLU has done in the recent past, but this is something that makes me love them. Let’s hear it for people who know what the United States is all about!
pissed off patricia @ 17:
My card is in my wallet.
John Yoo @ 23:
Well hello, John, nice to see you’ve taken time off from torturing kittens and chasing underage boys to grace us with your presence!
Will Rumsfeld avoid any charges? Who or what group can prosecute Yoo and the rest?
I’m getting awfully sick of everyday seeing more evidence of this administrations criminal and conspiratorial activities while not a peep of impeachment comes out of the congress! John’s gonna walk just like Scooter. Don’t see Generalissimo Gonzales doing any time do you? Fucking Cheney can get drunk and shoot a man in the face and tell the cops to piss off! I’m so sick of the pansy Democratic “leadership” sticking their heads in the sand and holding hearings that lead to nothing or better yet people just ignore the summons, I don’t know what to do. I can hardly believe this is the country I grew up in!
This man should at best be disbarred and at worse tried for treason for undermining the Constitution.
John Yoo @ 23:
I just realized I made that error and I do apologize for it.
Will Yoo lose his gig as professor of Law at the Boalt Hall School of Law, University of California, Berkeley?
John Yoo @ 23:
Bye the way, when you are finished kicking and rolling homeless people on Telegraph Ave. could you explain how it can be a “war” if Congress has not declared it? New rules? Unitary rules, Yoo?
John Yoo @ 23:
How’d you like it if you had 10,000 volts applied to your testicles? And you were innocent?
I think the best part is the news report where Yoo defends this piece of crap by calling it “almost boilerplate”
legal doctrine. I think he ought to admit the boiler was made by Krupp, circa 1938!
Ok, someone asked this over on FDL earlier today and I think it’s vitally important in getting the seriousness of this out to the masses: how should this be correctly framed? IANAL and most voters are not, how do we best phrase this event to make it sink in?
So John now that 95% of the population of the planet hates your guts how ya feel?
L.A. Confidential @ 35:
Oooh don’t be blaming it on us Johnny! You broke it! You own it!
L.A. Confidential @ 35:
He probably feels he has finally earned the respect of his estranged father.
Oh, Papa, I done good, didn’t I?
goat hussein sage @ 37:
Oh yah. He’s a big hearted guy! He just reeks compassion for his fellow human beings doesn’t he?
We are not at war, we are at occupation. These are occupation crimes, occupation criminals, occupation profits. In another ten years the occupation authors will write Fog of Occupation and shit in their deathbeds after their confessions.
The Legality of Evil” is still the best summation I’ve seen. Let’s not forget Addington, Haynes, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and all the rest in on this…
Come on Johnny don’t cut and run now. Tell us about all the good things your doing for people now that the surge is successful. Whats your next thing? Torturing Children for the benefit of boosting Graduation Rates?
L.A. Confidential @ 41:
I think he’s been hanging out in Shattuck Avenue coffeehouses spiking hippie girls’ lattes with date rape drugs.
John Yoo - one of the very worst, IMO
A CYA document - COVER YOUR ASS.
An after the fact document - designed to justify torture that had already been on-going for months. And 28% of the people still don’t see that the Bush/Cheney legacy to the Citizens of the United States was a Fascist State?
Not only is Bush the worst president ever — and no revisionist history will remove that stain from his black as coal soul — but he is on par with other world-class dictators, thieves, murders and war criminals.
The re-PIG-lic party - doomed forever to be cleaning up their own backsides in the political arena as a result of their own amoral and criminal behaviors.
Or simply put - their uncontrollable and egregious GREED.
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A.J.Joe @ 43:
One of the best psychopaths money can buy. And he’s still a kid with his head up his ass.
Have any of you read the memo yet? Is is here /media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/pdfs/OLCMemo1-19.pdf?sid=ST2008040102264
and here /media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/pdfs/OLCMemo20-39.pdf?sid=ST2008040102264.
See for yourself what you think.
The fire bombings and nuclear attacks on Japan resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents. The area bombings of Berlin, Dresden, Leipzig, and Chemnitz killed tens of thousands of non combatants. That is the human cost of war. We are at war with terrorists hellbent on the annihilations of Americans. In our struggle to combat those Islamic extremists there is bound to be collateral damage. War is Hell. The United States is at war.
enor @ 6:
Thanks for a great idea.Yoo,John Yoo.And this guy is a law professor at U.C.,Berkley?
I was wondering how I was going to renew my membership.I`ll also renew Public Citizen.
Thanks again.
I hate using terms like “evil”, but the glove fits so well upon the dainty hand of these cowardly, pillaging, murderous fuckers.
Stand proud America….now you can stand tall and proud right alongside the WWII Japanese, Stalin and his slaughterhouse, just about any heinous government that condoned torture as a means to gain info, no matter how worthless it might be.
Who better than to head this whole stinking mess than the one who was a victim of this criminal act himself, john mcbush. He has at least a few brain cells left in his head and a couple bones and tendons that are still functioning. Just ask him how much “useful information” he gave to the Vietnamese.
But hey, we call him our “hero”. After all, he didn’t die. Guess that would have made him a coward.
I always thought a hero was someone who did some brave act for country of for the sake of others. Nope, this man simply told them whatever they wanted to know and stayed alive. This is the new definition of “our hero”.
God, how we have sank to the bottom of the barrel.
No no guys you got it all wrong.
Waterboarding is really actually supermanning dat ho’, Yoooooooooo! was just following Soujah Boy’s orders!
abob @ 47:
So, abob, what are you doing to help prevent the total annihilation of the USA? Sporting a yellow ribbon on your pickup?
Two years ago, Cheney appeared on Larry King. He stepped in it big time, but few people caught it. I alerted Rude Pundit and he wrote about it.
an excerpt:
Then Cheney made this statement: “In a sense, when you’re at war, you keep prisoners of war until the war is over with.” So, like, if, in a sense, the Gitmo campers are “prisoners of war,” then, in a sense, don’t they get Geneva Conventions protections?
Cheney and Gonzales have been playing a semantics game to justify torture, since “war” was never formally declared. It’s pretty obvious why they chose to embark upon the path of war without ever formally declaring it - so they could not be held accountable for the War Crimes they knew they’d be committing.
Bush tells us every day that we’re at war. Cheney and Gonzales tell us that we’re not REALLY at war.
Problem is, Cheney is on tape stating not only that we are at war, but that we are holding “prisoners of war.”
The Geneva Conventions DO APPLY, and Cheney is guilty of war Crimes.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA.....kl.01.html
KING: They specifically said, though, it was Guantanamo. They compared it to a gulag.
D. CHENEY: Not true. Guantanamo’s been operated, I think, in a very sane and sound fashion by the U.S. military. Remember who’s down there. These are people that were picked up off the battlefield in Afghanistan and other places in the global war on terror. These are individuals who have been actively involved as the enemy, if you will, trying to kill Americans. That we need to have a place where we can keep them. In a sense, when you’re at war, you keep prisoners of war until the war is over with.”
So this is the war without end, and these prisoners will be held forever?
The Geneva Conventions DO APPLY to “Prisoners Of War” - and these guys are ALL WAR CRIMINALS.
enor @ 6:
HELLs YEAH!!!!
I already give a monthly payment to ACLU but I can’t think of a better way to spend the rebate…