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John Amato on Saturday, April 5th, 2008 at 3:16 PM - PDT
It’s not surprising that McCain’s Media must defend him at every turn. Here’s a typical example from emailer Candice:
On Friday night April 4th’s Nightly News, Brian Williams made the claim that
McCain had been well received by the crowd at the Motel monument site where
Martin Luther King, Jr. was murdered. Not exactly the truth — in a live
broadcast on CNN, the crowd boo’ed him as he spoke about not having supported
the legislation to make his birthday a national holiday.
We know that wasn’t the case, Mr.Williams.
Bob Somerby asks: “Are these life-forms actually human?”
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There is NO EXCUSE for MSM not doing their job. Their willingness to help Rebugs is blantantly obvious! Between Faux News and CNN(Faux News Lite), we get nothing but Billary and Obama’s bowling score(gasp!), non important bull-shit. What about Mukasie? What about Iraq? This aren’t news organizations, their trolls for big business, aka., the Republican Agenda.
Senator Frist
How…..excellent. The more they bring it up, the worse it gets for him when 70% of America hates the war.
P.D. @ 1:
Big business is a liberal agenda you jackass. Any time you try to regulate the market, you hurt corporations a little and small business owners a lot. You think it’s free to stay in compliance?
P.D. @ 1:
They are big businesses. Sorry.
If only Huey Long had lived….
Slightly OT, but watching the conservative party’s candidate (and probable former bigot) forced to pay homage to Dr. King by a national consensus on MLK’s greatness… it makes me feel pretty good. There may be hope for this country.
Nick, Do not call me a jackass. If you disagree, fine. I don’t throw around personal insults and you shouldn’t either.
Opportunistic scumbag! I’ll be honest, when the race to the nomination started, I thought that from the Repuglican cesspool, McCain was different, pro-immigration, against Bush’s Tax cut’s, and the religious fundies hated him(which was enough for me), but now, like most of America, I despise him.
Please America, (in the words of Colbert), “don’t f**K this up again!”
Brian Williams has the mind of an intelligent 10 year old. Seriously. On the day that Chris Dodd stopped telecom immunity, Williams ignored the story but found time for Ann Curry bungee jumping, people being mean to pets and their new announcer (omg! omg!) Michael Douglas (!!)
The National Broadcasting Corporation (NBC) has some high level directors who are pro-McCain and they are subtly trying to promote him to the highest office. NBC’s tactics include subliminal messages in how they show the three candidates in flash advertising. Also, NBC downplays negative news about McCain and upplays negative news about Obama and Clinton. There are exceptions such as Olbermann but NBC’s overall spin is pro-McCain.
Anyone have a competing estimate of what the American empire would cost in human lives over that 100 year time period?
I got one.
From 1945 onwards, since the US has supplanted the UK has the worlds primary economic and military leader, each decade has cost the world approximately 180 million lives - mostly by virtue of the US economic domination of the global apartheid economic model. So, the US shares the blame or the credit for developments in the world economy - as its central leader.
So…..
Lets do a little math.
180 x 6 (figuring 6 decades since the end of WW2) = 1080 million lives.
now, assuming that McCains vision for America - and the Neocons as well… we can add another 10 decades for a 100 year American Empire.
that is roughly 18,000 million lives.
We called the Nazi regime an evil empire, and it cost the world 60 million in World War II, and roughly 6 million in Jewish genocide.
We called the Soviet Union the Evil Empire because it killed 50 million in its reign of terror.
I guess the American economic model is in a class all by itself.
reference: David Ray Griffin, 2006, Christian Faith and 9-11 p. 176
I say - God Damn America if that is the case.
Nick, Do not call me a jackass. If you disagree, fine. I don’t throw around personal insults and you shouldn’t either.
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The man is right! Just because you don’t agree with some of our opinions, that’s fine and dandy. Don’t have to be rude. Just that simple.
Can anybody tell that sorry ass old dude to knock off the “My friends” crap?
I heard Brian Williams make this comment last night a couple of hours after I saw this video online so of course my mouth fell open.
Coporate media shills for the GOP.
garcia @ 13:
Will do, friend. :^D
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Well received, huh? Just like Stupor Mundi was well received by a cd of applause pumped in at the Nationals’ opener?
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FOUR MORE WAR$!
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FOUR MORE $URGE$!
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FOUR MORE THOU$AND!
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There’$ a KILLING to be HAD at MAKING WAR$!
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Thanks! Foser is one of the first to hit the big point I’ve been working on - sure, McCain has been taken out of context, but his actual statement was a dodge from the question about withdrawal he was asked, and complete fantasyland. Our troops in Germany, South Korea and Japan aren’t being attacked and killed, and they’re weren’t after the war, either. We’re currently occupying a foreign country in the middle of a civil war, and McCain has no proposal for moving from the current violence to a peacetime occupation.
Nick @ 4:
All regulations of the market hurt small business owners? And more than they hurt corporations? Hahaha, right because the mom-and-pop convenience store on the corner is really hurt by anti-trust legislation, minimum wage, outsourcing regulations, pollution restrictions, etc., while big business is begging for more restrictions, less corporate wellfare, and fewer no-bid government contracts. Are you being sarcastic or is this opposite day?
garcia, Thanks. But for the record, I’m a woman.
Bottom line, after 9/11 we realized we had to get our bases the heck out of Saudi Arabia. Hence, they were relocated to Iraq — and there they are likely to stay.
100 years is crazy! Ca-raaaaazy!!!
Now some great news on the “anti-war” side, the day-to-day coordinator of the Obama campaign’s working group on Iraq seems to now have a plan that only keeps 80,000 troops there through 2010. Whoo Hoo!
Uh, wah??…Wait…I thought Obama said he’d remove one brigade a month and that we’d have all our “combat brigades” out by the end of his “first sixteen months in office“?
In fact, Clinton surrogates are saying the exact same thing.
Huh. That’s really odd.
Leaving aside the apparent flip-flop pandering, it’s actually a fairly well-written speech.
But McCain seems to think he’s talking to country club republicans. The “dark = bad, light (white?) = good” meme ain’t going over so swell with this crowd.
wow…McCain is such a total phony. He’s also dumber than a box of rocks, and will get his ass handed to him by either Clinton or Obama.
Bring on November!
Iraqi official: Blackwater staying on ‘is bad news’
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) — The US State Department’s renewal of Blackwater’s contract to provide security in Iraq “is bad news,” an adviser to Iraqi Prime …
L.A. Confidential @ 24:
Maybe we should bring home our military and let Blackwater stay there and play bang bang shoot shoot.
L.A. Confidential @ 25:
I sure as hell don’t want them here at home in the States!
How do Republicans always manage to totally fu*k things up all the time? These guys without a doubt have got to be the highest paid BUFFOONS in this corner of the Solar System.
La, your right. The religious nut- balls bought their crazy bullshit. “If you elect us will ban abortion and tar and feather all gays!”Then the sheeple voted in droves. Idiots.
I guess in Brian Williams world, being well-received by a largely black audience means that you are not shot at by a drive-by shooter, or attacked by the Bloods or Crips, or otherwise assaulted.
Truth B Told @ 11:
So, let me get this straight, Tuol Sleng, the Cultural Revolution, the Great Leap Forward, the Sino-Indian War, the Sino-Vietnamese War, the Vietnamese-Cambodian War, all of which cost millions of lives are our fault? The starvation of the world that resulted when colonialism from Europe was withdrawn and Europe refused to go back in and clean up is our fault? The shitholes that were left after Soviet Communism proved bankrupt as a governing philosophy are our fault? Puh-leese, put it in context. Communism and colonial empires are the source of most of Earth’s misery, and the U.S. as a former colony had such a bad reaction to an attempt at imperialism that it wasn’t going to take over each individual country once run by white dictatorships we called colonialism.
I’m sorry, that’s just skewed.
L.A. Confidential @ 27:
They do not fu*k things up. Things are going exactly as planned in their PNAC manifestos.
You would think, if they are just fu*kups, that the law of probability would come into play and We the People would have something swing our way for once. But no. The Neocons and their closeted Democratic supporters are extremely competent.
Come on. Get real and look at the truth.
What Bush and The competent Neocons have accomplished…
Iraq War 2 (and probably Gulf War 1)
The deaths of almost 1 million Iraqis and displacement of 1 million refugees
Taken Iraqi oil off the market
Kept Iraq from opening non-US dollar bourse
Stacked the Supreme Court with Neocons with a cake-walk confirmation
Escaping justice for numerous domestic and International War crimes
Escaping impeachment with collusion of key Democrats (fellow CFR members)
Enriched war machine & the Military Industrial Complex
Installed 2 Attorney Generals who would block investigations and supeaonas and ignore whistle-blowers
Gutted Habeas Corpus
Rationalized torture by redefining it
Conveniently misplaced trillions (Sept 10th, 2001) and later billions of dollars
Reestablished record breaking opium production in Afghanistan
Implemented extraordinary rendition and secret torture camps
Manipulated and Stole 2000 and 2004 elections, primed to repeat in 2008
Used hoaxed Niger Yellow-cake “evidence” with no political repercussions.
Lied about Iraqi WMD’s
Lied about Jessica Lynch-Pat Tillman
Working on reigniting Russian-American Cold War (Russian bomber flights, etc)
Gutted independent officer corps
Christianization of the military
Massive expenditures for Chem-Bio, Space Weapons, Internet cybercorps
Intimidation (or willful cooperation) of Media & Business, but especially the Media
Permanent military bases in Iraq
Passed Patriot Act easily after convenient Anthrax and Manchurian-style Sniper attacks
Renewed the Patriot Act after sunset provisions
Passed Military Commissions Act
Created Massive debt to break government (and public)
Electronic surveillance and massive interconnected databases
Illegal warrantless wiretaps
First-rate mercenary force enriched and empowered
Broke Posse Comitatus precedent with Blackwater and US military domestic deployment
Blinding of America to Iranian nuclear program
Decimated New Orleans post-Katrina (dry-run for martial law)
Coopted Justice Department
Turned over key regulatory agencies to the foxes of industry (ex. Mining, Forestry)
Freed Scooter Libby with no political cost
Bankruptcy “reform”
No Child Left Behind and other Orwellian named govt initiatives
Garnered cooperation of fellow CFR and Trilateral Democrats to enable agenda
Unending blank checks from Congress
Convenient benefiting from a “New Pearl Harbor”
Pulled a sham Investigation on 9-11 over on the public for a paltry $15 million
But the piece de resistance - Conning the American public that they are incompetent.
What more do you want to qualify them as a success? Most people think they are incompetent because they are operating according to a different game-plan, or paradigm, than the normal person. Normal people wouldn’t operate at this level of corruption and genuine evil. These people are expert Machiavellian psychopaths (with a strong dose of Straussian Noble Lie telling) and to attempt to associate normal behaviors to them is an exercise in futility. You absolutely CANNOT continue to believe that the administration is incompetent - they are completely competent and shocking us into accepting a fascist version of America (just like Prescott Bush and his cohorts in the financial elite and industrialists tried in the 1930s)
Machiavelli - who greatly influenced Strauss - laid out how the elites would/coopt any form of government they wanted:
He who desires or attempts to reform the government of a state, and wishes to have it accepted and capable of maintaining itself to the satisfaction of everybody, must at least retain the semblance of the old forms; so that it may seem to the people that there has been no change in the institutions, even though in fact they are entirely different from the old ones.
Machiavelli. Discourses on Livy
Democrats and Republicans - NEITHER are your friends.
A shitty pilot who surrendered when he came under attack. Was too stupid to remember to pull back the canopy and f#%ked up his arms and shoulders when he blasted thru his canopy ejecting from his plane. He cooperated with the Vietnamese and was never tried for treason. The Vietnamese called him the “crown prince”. His fellow POW’s have said how McCain received special treatment and was never tortured. He returned from the war and deserted his first wife and kids.
This is the real story the MSM will never tell about John McCain.
McCain the Liar @ 31:
don’t forget the inordinate number of medals he was awarded for a total of 20 hours in actual combat, versus the thousands of hours endured by regular troops.
don’t forget that he lost a total of 5 planes in his short career.
don’t forget how he traded intelligence and information for medical care for his wounds.
don’t forget his father and grandfather were Navy Admirals and in a position to influence the USS Forestal fire investigation.
Max-Hussein-1 @ 16:
4 MORE NO BID GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS FOR HALLIBURTON!
Nick @ 4:
You’re a damned fool. Regulated markets don’t harm small businesses– they help them by preventing monopolies and putting the small businesses on more equal footing with the larger businesses. Also, big business isn’t “hurt” by regulation– it’s given guidelines that they all have to stick to. If everyone is similarly regulated, no one is “hurt”.
Why can’t you right-wing morons think anything through?
Truth B Told @ 33:
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Slow down there…
I can agree with you on a lot that you said here, but another pilot, whose plane was behind McCain’s on the flight deck, accidentally(?) fired a missile. If there was a cover up it was to cover someone else’s ass, not McCain’s.
Video here and here.
If you can smear the guy with the truth, do it. But you’re not being honest with that insinuation.
Well said Apples.
…and the invasion of Iraq was well received by the Iraqis–except maybe for the million dead, the several million driven from their homes, etc..
Williams’ repub leanings are well known–as is his lack of depth.
Andy K Jong Il @ 36:
Surviving crewmen and those who investigated the Forrestal fire case reported that McCain deliberately ‘wet-started’ his A-4E Skyhawk to shake up the guy in the F-4 Phantom behind his A-4.
‘Wet-starts’, done either deliberately (the starter motor switch allowed kerosene to pool in the engine and give a wet start) or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft. In McCain’s case, the ‘wet-start’ ‘cooked off’ and launched the M34 Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that punctured the Skyhawk’s fuel tank, knocked the M-65 1000 lb. bomb off it’s 500 lb. rated mount, and touched off the explosions and massive fire.
The F-4 pilot was reportedly killed in the conflagration, along with 167 of his fellow Forrestal shipmates (including those who died later from wounds suffered).
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Ok.
Nick.
The woman is right! Just because you don’t agree with some of our opinions, that’s fine and dandy. Don’t have to be rude. Just that simple.
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