The real panic here from these assholes is that Barack is stating in very plain language that he's going to address the causes of these problems, not paper them over with patronizing bullshit.

And people are responding.

We've definitely been through this before with the 2004 Kerry campaign, where it was primarily liberal media elites that were all to eager to jump on the myth of small town American virtue vs. liberal elitism. I suppose they'll do the same thing this time because it fits so nicely with Obama's inability to BOWL?

slippy hussein toad @ 1:

The real panic here from these assholes is that Barack is stating in very plain language that he's going to address the causes of these problems, not paper them over with patronizing bullshit.

And people are responding.

This kind of response?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-bsf2x-aeE

Note to Burger Flippers: it is amazing what kinds of things you can create with common kitchen ingredients...especially when your kitchen is the size of a McDonalds!

Note to WalMart Slaves: Pitchforks on Isle 3, torches on Isle 12. Or whatever.

Note to EVERYBODY: eat the rich! These people only have power over us because we LET them. If you are worried about the military suppressing your right to petition for the redress of grievances...most of them are in the same boat AND WILL STAND RIGHT THERE BESIDE YOU!

2008 is the last gasp of HOPE for a better future, and justice for past crimes, this country has. If that hope dies...a population without hope is a population that starts looking for payback. I fervently wish that we can see a GOOD president, and PROGRESSIVE government, starting in 2009.

But if it gets stolen AGAIN...I know what will happen. YOU ALL know what will happen, INCLUDING YOU AGENT SMITH OF THE NSA READING THIS! IF YOUR FASCIST ASS WANTS TO PREVENT VIOLENCE BREAKING OUT NATION-WIDE IN 2009, YOU CAN START BY ARRESTING THOSE ENEMIES OF THE CONSTITUTION IN THE BU$CO REGIME, STARTING FROM THE TOP! OR DOES YOUR OATH TO PROTECT AND DEFEND "THAT DAMN PIECE OF PAPER" MEAN NOTHING TO YOU!

As far as todays emerging youth there are two types.

Wilkes Barre P.A. The city remains in poor shape, with those bad newer buildings (now aging badly), and the "missing teeth" of more recent demolitions, and a sagging population base. But I liked the young professionals I met there who are working to revive this very damaged place. They were intelligent, and cheerful despite the difficulty of their task. They clearly loved their town. They were free to move elsewhere, had even been to college elsewhere, but had returned to their old city in the valley to make a stand. And they had worked tirelessly to actually get a few good new things built.

The Other Type. Lets build more buildings that are little more than packing crates with bars and bandstands, while the side streets are adorned with rows of port-a-johns reeking in the impressive heat while hosting drinking contests on Sixth Street every weekend night for visiting motorists.

Raised in rural Indiana, put myself through college and then some, parents never had money, worked growing up on farms and blue collar jobs. I'd say Obama got it exactly right, and that he truly does empathize with the people he's talking about and understand what it means too be left out and left behind. Clinton's and McCain's criticisms don't ring true, being more than anything, patronizing. I think Hillary in her heart does care, but she's so desperate that she's saying these things just to score points, which demeans her. I hate to see her stooping and trash talking. It's pathetic. McCain's concerns are ridiculous, a joke.

The GOP has duped their supporters into thinking the polo pony Republicans are looking after the best interests of the Wal-Mart Republicans.

You can fool some of the people all of the time. Conservatives are those people.

Great point John and I wish more of these small town people who realize what you have said that within such communities, there does exist an elitism of sorts that does not function in the modern american let alone the modern world.

I'm scared. Supreme court or not, I just don't think I can bring myself to vote for Hillary, if by some slight of hand she gets nominated. Seeing and hearing her jump on Barack, calling him an elitist makes me want to literally puke my guts out. The two faced creeps like both Clintons and McCain are just about too much to bear. How much was it that the Clintons made last year? How much is Cindy McCain worth? Please oh please gimme a break!

And please tell me that there aren't a very large number of embittered Americans struggling to survive.

If McCain had made this remark he would have been lauded to the skies.

pfeld @ 17:

I'm scared.

Look fear straight in eye and you will cease to be afraid of it. Don't get stuck in it's grip, do something to advance.

pfeld @ 17:

I'm scared. Supreme court or not, I just don't think I can bring myself to vote for Hillary, if by some slight of hand she gets nominated. Seeing and hearing her jump on Barack, calling him an elitist makes me want to literally puke my guts out. The two faced creeps like both Clintons and McCain are just about too much to bear. How much was it that the Clintons made last year? How much is Cindy McCain worth? Please oh please gimme a break!

And please tell me that there aren't a very large number of embittered Americans struggling to survive.

Hillary still is better than McCain in every possible way, so unless you want Mr.-100-Years McPapen in office in January 2009, you'd probably have to vote Hillary.

On the OP: Couldn't have said it better myself! Bravo, Senator Obama!

This is off topic. I just check redstate (scary place I tell you), because I want to know the way they think (stupid, if not psychotic). Anyway, those of you who still doubt Senator Obama would not win in the generals should check how they feel about him (if you don't want to give them hits, i'll elaborate): Those wingnuts have 6 out 10 entries (including the more recent 4) about Sen. Obama, and everytime I check them most of their entries are about him. They fear him. They know he would beat the crap out of them.

Let's hope that Obama keeps telling it as it is and doesn't start to fold under the pressure. If he can stay true to his principles, and if the American people are smart enough to see through the B.S. that will be flung at him, y'all might just have a brighter future in store.

Idols are manufactured. You could take a moonshine hillbilly who dropped out of school in the 4th grade and with enough time, money, coaching, and promotion turn him into a sophisticated gentlemen fit for public consumption.

Technically we're all full of bullshit in the bigger scheme of things.

hood @ 25:

This is off topic. I just check redstate (scary place I tell you), because I want to know the way they think (stupid, if not psychotic). Anyway, those of you who still doubt Senator Obama would not win in the generals should check how they feel about him (if you don't want to give them hits, i'll elaborate): Those wingnuts have 6 out 10 entries (including the more recent 4) about Sen. Obama, and everytime I check them most of their entries are about him. They fear him. They know he would beat the crap out of them.

Not much of an indicator. Those people are haters. They're gonna hate all over whoever they think is the Dem frontrunner.

Old School Patriot @ 7:

Note to EVERYBODY: eat the rich! These people only have power over us because we LET them. If you are worried about the military suppressing your right to petition for the redress of grievances...most of them are in the same boat AND WILL STAND RIGHT THERE BESIDE YOU!

Indeed, the soldier is just another exploited worker, it is the awakening of their consciousness that turns a crisis into a revolution. So wake up Soldier! you are being used, those orders are illegal orders and you have no obligation to follow them.

Marge @ 32:

Please someone explain to me why obama is supposed to be an expert on everything and is supposed to know how every body feels about anything and everything.

Since he only stayed with his Kenyan grandmother for a few years, and the rest of his life he lived with people of means how does he know about the people who are the have nots.

His mother left him with affluent grandparents after his father deserted them. Then when she married someone else...he was wealthy. I guess since obama is supposed to be the second coming of the Good Lord we must expect him to be the all knowing about everything.

Let's see. There are the years he spent being a community organizer in Chicago and being a professor takes some kind of knowledge. Outside of bieng first lady and a politician what has Hillary done again?

Diane @ 360:

slippy hussein toad @ 1:

The real panic here from these assholes is that Barack is stating in very plain language that he's going to address the causes of these problems, not paper them over with patronizing bullshit.

And people are responding.

How is he going to solve these problems?

By trying?

That would be a nice begining, don't you think?

xoites defends Constitution @ 356:

RLF @ 354:

Gion @ 351:

"You know married people don’t agree on everything. "

Are you not one of the people who criticized Obama for Goolsbee, Wright, etc?
Apprarently guilt by association is a one way street. I point out Bill's comments now so you can know the bullshit when it comes out of Bill's mouth later, when he inevitably jumps on the pile.

And Wright. It scares me that a potential President sat in and sent his children to a church that preaches unabated hatred of America for 20 YEARS. Anyone would find that disturbing.

I would have been honored to sit in that church and applaud every word. You think America is pure? If so you are a fool. Terrorism is an American invention. We used it on the Native Americans, we use it on the black population and you, dear friend want to use it on me.

But you do not scare me you pathetic little man.

If you think a vile sermon given when bodies were still burning at th WTC was worth applauding. Then you are pathetic buddy.
Not perfect but fixable even with scum like Wright.

RLF @ 363:

xoites defends Constitution @ 356:

RLF @ 354:

Gion @ 351:

And Wright. It scares me that a potential President sat in and sent his children to a church that preaches unabated hatred of America for 20 YEARS. Anyone would find that disturbing.

I would have been honored to sit in that church and applaud every word. You think America is pure? If so you are a fool. Terrorism is an American invention. We used it on the Native Americans, we use it on the black population and you, dear friend want to use it on me.

But you do not scare me you pathetic little man.

If you think a vile sermon given when bodies were still burning at th WTC was worth applauding. Then you are pathetic buddy.
Not perfect but fixable even with scum like Wright.

and I'm a big size man. Little brain

RLF @ 363:

xoites defends Constitution @ 356:

RLF @ 354:

Gion @ 351:

And Wright. It scares me that a potential President sat in and sent his children to a church that preaches unabated hatred of America for 20 YEARS. Anyone would find that disturbing.

I would have been honored to sit in that church and applaud every word. You think America is pure? If so you are a fool. Terrorism is an American invention. We used it on the Native Americans, we use it on the black population and you, dear friend want to use it on me.

But you do not scare me you pathetic little man.

If you think a vile sermon given when bodies were still burning at th WTC was worth applauding. Then you are pathetic buddy.
Not perfect but fixable even with scum like Wright.

The conservatives want presidents like George W. Bush and Mitt Romney.
But not Obama because he's an elitist.
His dad was a third world goat herder and now you want us to believe he's an elitist.

The conservatives love religious figures like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.
But not Rev. Wright because he preaches hate.
When the bodies were still burning, Pat and Jerry were on NATIONAL TELEVISION, happy as clams that God was punishing America because of feminism and homosexuality.

joeedugan @ 367:

RLF @ 363:

xoites defends Constitution @ 356:

RLF @ 354:

I would have been honored to sit in that church and applaud every word. You think America is pure? If so you are a fool. Terrorism is an American invention. We used it on the Native Americans, we use it on the black population and you, dear friend want to use it on me.

But you do not scare me you pathetic little man.

If you think a vile sermon given when bodies were still burning at th WTC was worth applauding. Then you are pathetic buddy.
Not perfect but fixable even with scum like Wright.

The conservatives want presidents like George W. Bush and Mitt Romney.
But not Obama because he's an elitist.
His dad was a third world goat herder and now you want us to believe he's an elitist.

The conservatives love religious figures like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.
But not Rev. Wright because he preaches hate.
When the bodies were still burning, Pat and Jerry were on NATIONAL TELEVISION, happy as clams that God was punishing America because of feminism and homosexuality.

Don't get wrong their scum with longer resumes.

xoites [EMBITTERED AMERICAN] defends Constitution @ 366:

RLF @ 363:

xoites defends Constitution @ 356:

RLF @ 354:

I would have been honored to sit in that church and applaud every word. You think America is pure? If so you are a fool. Terrorism is an American invention. We used it on the Native Americans, we use it on the black population and you, dear friend want to use it on me.

But you do not scare me you pathetic little man.

If you think a vile sermon given when bodies were still burning at th WTC was worth applauding. Then you are pathetic buddy.
Not perfect but fixable even with scum like Wright.

Vile? and i think you have your dates mixed up.

Anyway if you want to talk about vile let's get down to it.

Wright said God Damn America, right?

To you this is vile, to me this is polite.

What has America done?

Read The People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn and get back to me.

You REALLY need to expand your data base.

Keep using that self hate tact you might pick up the "I hate America" vote. All 5 of them.
THINK!!!!

geneHUSSEIN214 @ 153:

Nomi @ 147:

Barack Obama can do no wrong. Anyone who suggest otherwise will be eviscerated.

Then go vote for fucking McCain in the general election. Jesus Christ, these children just stomping their feet yelling "I hate Obama! "I hate Obama!" "I hate Obama!!". Give it a fucking rest already. If you don't like the guy that much, go vote for the other candidate. Knock yourself out.

Odd that my comment would be deleted but the flame response remains. gen has to make outrageous smears about anyone who makes a comment that seems like anything less than being in 100% support of his candidate and in doing so, proved the point I was making.

It's not Hillary who is tearing the party apart: it's people like gene and his other fellow Obama supporters.

RLF @ 371:

Keep using that self hate tact you might pick up the "I hate America" vote. All 5 of them.
THINK!!!!

Did you hear what Rev. Wright actually said in full context? Does this sound like "I hate America" to you?

Nicole Belle @ 375:

RLF @ 371:

Keep using that self hate tact you might pick up the "I hate America" vote. All 5 of them.
THINK!!!!

Did you hear what Rev. Wright actually said in full context? Does this sound like "I hate America" to you?

Nicole, i respect you a lot, but i thought it was my job to talk to the brick walls around here. :)

lost_nacf_gop @ 378:

xoites [EMBITTERED AMERICAN] defends Constitution @ 374:

RLF @ 371:

xoites [EMBITTERED AMERICAN] defends Constitution @ 366:
Keep using that self hate tact you might pick up the "I hate America" vote. All 5 of them.
THINK!!!!

If you do not hate the atrocities America has committed you don't think at all. But i figured that out about you hours ago.

We'll get a truckload of real, substanced candidates for Federal office again . . .once we decide to stop treating the effing process like the MIss America Pageant. Wolf-F**king Blitzer, meet Bert Parks.

Obama said nothing that was wrong or inaccurate. Grow up toadies. Smell your own farts for a change.

I beg to differ. Obama spat in the face of THE BIG LIE.

I work in a factory in Indiana that is on its death bed. By this coming fall all of the machines will be in Montery, Mexico. Every day I get up and go to work bitter, and everyone else that I work with is bitter as well. Obama's comments were dead on. Why this story has any legs is beyond me. People everywhere in this country ARE bitter and they should be. For too long now OUR country has been taken from us. We feel helpless and frustrated and bitter about the things that we see going on every day in Washington. I just hope the day comes when we decide that we've had enough of it.

Pete @ 381:

I work in a factory in Indiana that is on its death bed. By this coming fall all of the machines will be in Montery, Mexico. Every day I get up and go to work bitter, and everyone else that I work with is bitter as well. Obama's comments were dead on. Why this story has any legs is beyond me. People everywhere in this country ARE bitter and they should be. For too long now OUR country has been taken from us. We feel helpless and frustrated and bitter about the things that we see going on every day in Washington. I just hope the day comes when we decide that we've had enough of it.

I am sorry for the loss of your job, Pete. What are you going to do?

Nicole Belle @ 382:

xoites [EMBITTERED AMERICAN] defends Constitution @ 377:

Nicole, i respect you a lot, but i thought it was my job to talk to the brick walls around here. :)

My bad. :) Talk away.

I was just teasing, you can pounce on the trolls any time you like. :)

lost_nacf_gop @ 384:

Actually the LIE was "uniquely American . . . workin' three jobs. Uttered by a guy whose never worked ONE in his whole miserable adult life.

You are correct. I remember now. It is really hard for me to watch or listen to thar man.

Pete @ 381:

I work in a factory in Indiana that is on its death bed. By this coming fall all of the machines will be in Montery, Mexico. Every day I get up and go to work bitter, and everyone else that I work with is bitter as well. Obama's comments were dead on. Why this story has any legs is beyond me. People everywhere in this country ARE bitter and they should be. For too long now OUR country has been taken from us. We feel helpless and frustrated and bitter about the things that we see going on every day in Washington. I just hope the day comes when we decide that we've had enough of it.

Pete, the day is when you want it to be. Watch the candidates, and you'll be able to tell which ones have no clue what you're going through, and are unable to care about it. There's two of 'em in the race.

"I ask anyone who reads this to read the whole thread and discover the heart of a true Obama follower."

Well i support him. I follow noone. I think that is all you are capable of.

Yes, please feel free to read this thread, all criticizm of what i say is welcome.

xoites [EMBITTERED AMERICAN] defends Constitution @ 390:

RLF @ 388:

xoites [EMBITTERED AMERICAN] defends Constitution @ 374:

RLF @ 371:

If you do not hate the atrocities America has committed you don't think at all. But i figured that out about you hours ago.

Take a good look at world history All "civilized" nations are built on atrocities. I think we should stop committing them. But unfortunately it will take a shift in human nature and that usually takes many years.

Since you like using insults like your hero Wright you might understand that.
No one like yourself changes anything. Non-entities spouting hatred never do.
I thought Obama treatise was to embrace to bring together. I guess you are truly representative of him.
I ask anyone who reads this to read the whole thread and discover the heart of a true Obama follower.

You just do not and refuse to "get it!"

This is my country and your country. It is the very first country on the planet where what it does is both my and your responsibility. It is not suppossed to be a monarchy where we can throw up our hands and say, "The King did it!"

What this country does is ALWAYS in our name.

Fuck what other countries do!

Take resposnsibility and stop deflecting blame on everyone else!

Grow the Fuck Up!

WOW you total lack of history is astounding. A third entity called America did not commit atrocities. It was you and me ,our parents ,and their parents before. Atrocities are committed by people not kings, emperors, and dictators. Every atrocity ever committed was by a person, not an entity. The indians were slaughtered for their land by us not the government. If the govt. did anything it was by our acquiescence not their lead. And so forth throughout history.
Unlike you I refuse to use derogatory language. But seriously wake up!

Eric Hussein Paulsen @ 392:

I'm unemployed in Flint Michigan so tell ME that I'm not bitter and frustrated! Now maybe I'm not in the least interested in god or guns but that's really just a minor kvetch and not at all some horrible slight to us poor white mid-westerners. This country has gone to hell, I can't even get a job working for the local great Satan (Wal-Mart), and I AM MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANY LONGER!

Pete @ 381:

I work in a factory in Indiana that is on its death bed. By this coming fall all of the machines will be in Montery, Mexico. Every day I get up and go to work bitter, and everyone else that I work with is bitter as well. Obama's comments were dead on. Why this story has any legs is beyond me. People everywhere in this country ARE bitter and they should be. For too long now OUR country has been taken from us. We feel helpless and frustrated and bitter about the things that we see going on every day in Washington. I just hope the day comes when we decide that we've had enough of it.

Folks like you scare the shit out of the real ellite. If you get organized people like Hillary could lose their summer homes in the Hamptons. Obama scares them just for pointing out your plight and taking your side.

Your side is my side and always has been.

I think the people who are upset, are Hillary Clinton and John McCain that this inner city black boy is beating their butts and knows something about the frustrations that he is talking about. What does someone whose made 109 million dollars in the last 7 years know about what the laid off workers in Pennsylvania think or feel.

The "elitist" term is code word for smart, and it was used as an attack against Bill Clinton in the 1990's. He was also called a "policy wonk" for knowing too much about government. I find it ironic that the Clinton's throw these same accusations at a black man who grew up in the inner city and worked his way to where he is today.

If there is one thing that we can't have in this country is a smart president who will bring people together!!!! So we will call him elitist when he calls a spade a spade.

I live in the south and I can tell you personally that people who have no real power cling to God and guns to try to get through this life. Obama speaks the truth and it is too painful for the two real "ELITISTS" running against him. Obama scares them to death.