Please join the ACLU and CrooksandLiars and demand a call for an Independent Counsel to investigate the Administration’s approval of Torture and Abuse.
In a stunning admission to ABC news Friday night, President Bush declared that he knew his top national security advisers discussed and approved specific details of the CIA’s use of torture. Bush reportedly told ABC, “I’m aware our national security team met on this issue. And I approved.” Bush also defended the use of waterboarding.
“We have always known that the CIA’s use of torture was approved from the very top levels of the U.S. government, yet the latest revelations about knowledge from the president himself and authorization from his top advisers only confirms our worst fears,” said Anthony D. Romero, Executive Director of the ACLU. “It is a very sad day when the president of the United States subverts the Constitution, the rule of law, and American values of justice.”
The American Civil Liberties Union is calling on Congress to demand an independent prosecutor to investigate possible violations by the Bush administration of laws including the War Crimes Act, the federal Anti-Torture Act, and federal assault laws…read on
I haven’t heard so much as a peep out of the fanboys and villagers about this? Have you? Really, where is the Media on this issue. Why aren’t they running segments demanding answers to questions? How often did we hear that Abu Ghraib was a few bad apples? And as we know, John McCain approves of the CIA’s use of torture now.…I think it’s time we start a call/email/fax/letter writing project to demand an Independent Counsel on this issue from Congress and a blitz to the media asking them why they have been silent on this fact. Many thanks to the ACLU for jumping in the middle of this. Also, what is Hillary, Obama and McCain’s thoughts on this? They need to weigh in?
Please join C&L and the ACLU in getting the word out:
Join the ACLU and our friends at Crooks & Liars: Call on your members of Congress to demand an independent prosecutor to investigate possible violations by the Bush administration of laws including the War Crimes Act, the federal Anti-Torture Act and federal assault laws.
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They are too scared to confront the Godfather,
Could it be that they know this type of stuff has been going on for decades and that no government official or agency would admit to it before? I don’t know, just guessing.
Finally now their calling on the outrage? Where has it been all along. Where was it when this criminal gang said it was “just a few bad apples” - where was it when they put low level soldiers on trial and not a single high ranking anybody was charged with anything?
Maybe it’s just that I have been this mad for years.
They’re too busy talking about how Obama has destroyed his campaign by mentioning bitter white guys.
The press has their priorities, you know…..
Hey, I tried to sign the petition, but because I’m a US citizen who lives in another country (Canada, in my case) I wasn’t able to do so.
Could you please express to the ACLU folks who are in charge my frustration at this problem, which seems to occur with depressing regularlity these days whenever I try to sign petitions against the latest Bu$hCo outrage.
Thanks!
JWW
Niagara-On-The-Lake, ON
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The MSMBS of ABCNNBC&FOXPRAVDA are too busy pandering to Clinton’s projection of Obama being an elitist.
My question is what’s in it for the MSMBS?
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it’s old news…thats why there’s no outrage. and ppl really don’t give a shit….
Oops, should be…
ABCNNBCBS&FOXPRAVDA
Forgot the BS in the first equasion…
LOL
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Freakaloin @ 7:
BUT WHY?
No, the real question is, why haven’t the Democratic candidates uttered even a peep about this?
Mrs. Clinton? Leadership on the Constitution, much?
What about you, Mr. Obama? Or are you too busy trying to prove that you’re Christian enough for Middle America to be bothered?
why is the sky blue?
The outrage is right HERE! That’s why the other day I sent my Senators and lame ass Rep this letter asking for assistance:
Dear Senator,
Could you or some one on your staff PLEASE help me out. I’m looking at my Constitution. And looking and looking and looking. And I can’t find it! Can you or an aide PLEASE point out to me where in it that it says that the President, Vice President, Attorney General, National Security Advisor, Secretary of Defense or their aides can ignore the Constitution and commit Capital Crimes with impunity when ever they feel like it.
sincerely and extremely disgusted,
Terrible
shoephone @ 10:
REMEMBER:
Impeachment is Shhhhh… OFF the table.
This way, none of the candidates has to be publicly humiliated and embarrassed by NOT supporting impeachment.
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Have you ever considered that waterboarding has not been legally defined as torture? Perhaps that is why your fantasy of Bush and Cheney in handcuffs has not happened yet. Just a thought. But keep huffing and puffing, you may blow that house down yet!
Freakaloin @ 11:
Sorry, you’re lame then.
Maybe YOU don’t give a shit.
And no, it isn’t like, why is the sky blue. THAT is a given.
Is it a given that ANY president CAN be a War Criminal?
What does that say about the form of Government that YOU support should you feel that way?
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They’ll get away with it…. how ?… easy, they invoke al qaida and everyone turns to jelly.
I’ve said before and I’ll say again: The Bush Administration is guilty of violating the Nuremberg and Tokyo precedents, and should receive the same sentences that we merited out to the Nazis and IJA and IJN leaders. As Joshua son of Joseph said, “By the standard you measure others, so shall it be measured unto you.”
John Yoo, Douglas Fife, William Krystol, Karl Rove, and Paul Wolfowitz don’t have Secret Service protection do they? Anyone up for a good old fashioned all American Tar and Feather party?
Where is the people’s outrage? There is more outrage and protests for the Olympics than there is about your own country and what is going on there. Don’t you guys get it - the outrage comes from you - the American people and that is when the candidates and administration talk about it. I haven’t seen many protests about the war - it seems it is just an after thought. You’re so concerned about Hillary and her miss steps that you’re not even seeing the big picture and the administration loves you for it because then they can just carry on what they’ve been doing for the past seven years. Come on people show some real outrage for what is going on and for some reason a petition I don’t think is going to do it.
Fantastic…admissions typically help put criminals in jail. Let’s hope this is the case.
Thanks shoephone…
It would be nice to have the Democrats stand up for the American people, but let me remind everyone…we didn’t lose Habeas Corpus until they came into power.
Democrats vs. Republicans = False Dichotomy. Unfortunately.
Where’s the outrage?
There is none.
Gideon @ 18:
Yes, “Gideon”. Great idea. Let’s become “them”.
Complete the circle of torture. Beeeutiful.
Signed.
Thanks, C&L and ACLU.
Commander Bunnypants — stupid, strutting, smirking, drunken AWOL frat boy — is a war criminal.
Excellent, I will pass it on.
Max-Hussein-1 @ 9:
The ball game is on and psssst…Barack is black and an elitist.
foutsc @ 14:
Have you considered that waterboarding HAS.
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=641
The USA successfully prosecuted AND executed members of the Japanese Army for waterboarding…
The USA successfully court marshaled a US servicemen during Vietnam for the use of water torture…
The USA successfully tried in a Federal Court, the case of water torture…
The precedent has been set. Ignoring these facts does NOT make it a legal act. In fact, the precedent has been set high enough, that to excuse it’s use calls for formal apologies TO the Japanese, TO the US serviceman that was court marshaled and a rebuke of an Appellate Courts decision. All to cover the president’s ass? I. THINK. NOT! If that be the case, ANY form of Government CAN torture our troops and NO ONE can cry foul! NOT EVEN THE LOYALISTS(R).
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Medford Tim @ 4:
CNN Producer to associate producer intern: Put a good looking blond teenage girl in there and the torture meetings get some attention.
Next idea, please.
What? You say Obama might have sneered while looking down on an unemployed Pennsylvanian?
Call Blitzer - now!
Max-Hussein-1 @ 13:
In this campaign “Experience” and “Hope” trump Justice and Dignity every time.
What’s so bad about waterboarding, when the U.S. is promoting it as good, healthy athletic competition for the Olympic games coming up in China?
http://www.themorningnews.org/.....arding.php
We need to look for justice wherever we can find it. We need emisaries overseas lobbying for charges of war crimes to be brought against all these people.
These facts should be on billboards, radio, flyers bumber stickers … calling for war crimes indictments.
Lets be clear about this. The war in Iraq was a war of opportunity - which is the highest war crime. That standard by the way was established in large part BY THE US.
Remember the solution to similar previous problems - coalitions of nations militarily stopped the aggression and tried those responsible for war crimes. The same should be done now. A coalition of nations needs to militarily expel the US and hold the leadership - civilian and military - accountable for war crimes at the Hague.
John, you need to publish/sell everything from bumper stickers and T-shirts to buttons.
You could organize the graphics and media arts for ads (billboards to radio to TV) and start a net funded (with other blogs) program to disseminate that material.
Otherwise, they will continue the killing until someone cries uncle. What they dont realize is that no one EVER cries uncle. These techniques didnt work in S. America, they are trying them here in the US (so far they are working I am sad to say) and the result of these techniques in S.W. Asia is more blowback.
This “liberal press” is anything but and certainly not journalists. That is apparently a long lost art God forbid that they should have to get up off their fat a$$es and actually take a chance. This country is much more afraid of al Qaeda then it ever was of the Nazis. We’ve become a country filled with pansies Home of the brave my ass.
Max-Hussein-1 @ 13:
True enough. Anyone waiting for Pelosi, Reid or any of the other so-called Congressional Democratic leaders to make this item #1 is going to get old and gray before that bus that ever comes.
But Congressional timidity isn’t a viable excuse for presidential candidates — not in my opinion, anyway. They don’t get a pass on this from me. Recall how much leadership they showed on the FISA bill. None.
I don’t expect Anthony Romero to get 30 seconds from any of the networks. Jim Lehrer will give him 15 minutes on PBS while the rest of America obsesses over who will win on American Idol and Dancing with the Stars.
Our democracy is dead. Brought to you courtesy of both political parties. Now have a biscuit, everyone.
Liberal AND Proud @ 25:
Sure is. And a corporatist, and a free trader, and an incompetent.
Freakaloin Says:
because if it was green, we wouldn’t know where to stop mowing the lawn.
I have another idea John - which probably wont be read.
Start an e-brary. Make it a collection of articles, links and videos organized and searchable by topic … so that people can study/research issues online. For example, what are the facts regarding FISA or torture memos or political affiliations of islamic factions in Iraq? etc.
You need an e-brarian. I nominate Nicole.
Information is power.
BitterJohnny2Bad @ 28:
And look at what our “Experience” of “Hope” has brought thus far…
War Criminals running our Nation with the support (see Hillary & McCain’s votes on the AUMF of 2002) of the enablers.
Witness, the mandate of 2006…
“Bring the troops home” & “End the Iraq Occupation”
… goes unnoticed.
By the inaugural of 2009, there will be MORE troops in Iraq occupying a sovereign Nation that NEVER posed an imminent threat than there were in 2006, when said mandate was handed from We the People.
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Max-Hussein-1 @ 36:
Obama is no better than Clinton on these issues. He’s voted in lockstep to fund this war at every turn.
shoephone @ 37:
This is why I rather enjoyed people laughing at me because I supported Kucinich…
I knew it was they, whom they were laughing at…
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More media deciet plain and simple.
WTF is the ACLU going to do??
Someone needs to stand up for the American peoples right to be HONESTLY informed so we can make propper descisions.
The more we count on the MSM the more fucked up the country becomes. No petition is going to change it!
Look at the kind of rubbish that makes what I call the weekend loop on EVERY news channel…PURE SHIT!
People who steer boats,planes,trains,operate heavy equiptment, construction workers,etc are subject to drug testing and termination for steering people wrong and/or causing deaths.
Why do we not have the same accountability for those responsible for steering our COUNTRY???
Political/MSM deceit has GOT TO GO!
The ACLU isn’t gonna do a effing thing about it.
WE THE PEOPLE need to STAND and RID our country of them and their evil roots, the corporations that own them!
Who is willing to step up and help us break up monopolies and clean up lending practices? The ACLU???Thats laughable!
We need someone to point out that the mortgage crisis is NOT about the cost of HOMES it’s about the bullshit way of figuring interest rates.
There is no reason under the SUN for this!
Put THAT in your effing petition!
Liberal AND Proud @ 25:
Well, that’s what sHillary (R) Clinton says anyway…
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We can forget about the media exposing torture approval at the highest levels. The only person who has any bona fides is the Freeway Blogger. Maybe we should all become Freeway Bloggers.
A: I am
Spartacusthe Freeway Blogger!B,C: I am
Spartacusthe Freeway Blogger!!D,E,F,G,H…: I am
Spartacusthe Freeway Blogger!!!Plenty of outrage here. But as for the average American, I don’t think you’ll see outrage until gas hits $5/gallon and they lose their cell phones, credit cards, reality TV…. Then you’ll see some outrage but it’ll be too late.
In a 2005 poll, 55% of Americans said they approve of torture. There’s your outrage right there.
He knew? he approved? he just admitted to being a co-conspirator in a crime! How much more do we need? Lets write up some warrants. frog march…hop two hop four.<