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About that flag-pin question…

One more thing about Wednesday night’s Democratic debate and then I’ll let it go. Determining which of the discussion topics was the most inane is tricky, but I’d have to go with the flag lapel-pin question.

Early on in the debate, Charlie Gibson said he wanted to offer a question that “goes to the basic issue of electability.” Gibson said, “[I]t is a question raised by a voter in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, a woman by the name of Nash McCabe.” From videotape, McCabe then asked Obama if he “believe[s] in” the American flag, and why he doesn’t “wear the flag.”

For ABC, this offers a little distance from the trivia — the moderators didn’t ask about lapel pins, some regular ol’ person did. I had assumed that ABC went around western Pennsylvania, looking for voters with good questions, and thought McCabe’s was provocative.

But that’s not quite what happened — ABC appears to have sought McCabe out.




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Filthy Harry Says:

Given Gibson’s FALSE statement about capital gains tax cuts causing increase in revenue, someone MIGHT think Mr. Gibson was a little biased in his moderation when you add this little tidbit in. Add in Stephonopolous’ former positions and the dynamic of the whole debate its easy to see how someone might come to the conclusion that these two chuckleheads had an agenda.

Why hasn’t anyone but Keith Olbermann posted that audio of Stephanlpolus dictating the Ayers question from Sean Hannity on Hannity’s radio show?

I’m watching Dan Abrams and they say they have a audio tape of Hillary Clinton attacking MoveOn.org for bullying her supporters. Is this true?

I’m a member of MoveOn and I signed the ABC petition, but to say that the left-wing of the Democratic Party is against her will become a self-fulfilling prophecy! How in the hell will she win in November if she doesn’t have the extreme left-wing to combat the extreme Right-wing?

All of this is getting surreal.

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crazylikeafox Says:

My letter to Charly and George,

ABC (Joke) NEWS Missed The NEWS In The Debate.
Some Topics Americans are interested in:
Catastrophic Global Warming
The Plummeting Dollar
The Financial Sector Meltdown
Record Foreclosures
Soaring Food Prices
$600 Billion Spent Every Year On The Military
Lying America Into War
The Trillion Dollar War
$114/Barrel Oil
Record Profits And Tax Breaks To The Oil Companies
War Profiteering
$9 Trillion Deficit (real number closer to $50 Trillion)
Tax Code Written for the Rich
Torture By The President
Torture By The Vice-President
Torture By The Secretary of State
Torture By The Secretary of Defense
Torture By The Pentagon
Torture By The State Department
Torture By Homeland Security
48 Million Americans With No Health Insurance
Millions And Millions Of Americans Barely Able To Afford Health Insurance
Alternative Energy
Millions Of Jobs Lost In America
No Pensions for Americans
Millions Of Illegal Immigrants
Illegal Spying On American Citizens
Destruction of Habius Corpes
Blackbox Voting Machines
Privatizing Natural Resouces
Privatizing Public Infastructure
Presidential Signing Statements
Environmental Disasters Everywhere
US Taxpayer Bailout IN THE HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS Of The Private Financial Investment Banks
Oh, and where is Osama Bin Laden?

But hey, you did get a question in about wearing a FLAG PIN MADE IN CHINA. And nice to know poor Charley Gibson is crying in his manson about paying more on his capital gains tax. Boo hoo hoo.

You aren’t a news organization. You are a propaganda mouthpiece of the corporations and the oligarchy that run this country. And Americans are sick to death of your lies and distortions that have ruined America.

Go try to make money off the Chinese and the Middle East because that is where all of Americans money is.

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xoites defends Constitution Says:

Word has it that Hillary Clinton was tape recorded in a closed meeting slaming Move On Dot Org.

Anyone else hear this?

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bullfrog Says:

i wish i was officially working for the obama campaign.

all he had to say was, “don’t you know those things are made in china?”

DEBATE OVER.

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po Says:

i’m confused. i don’t think i’ve ever seen Mrs. Clinton wearing a flap lapel pin or flag brooch. Is she electable?

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P.D. Says:

The debate was a farce, but it has shown the average Americans what a worthless medium are so-called news, really is. The fact people were booing isn’t lost on many of the execs. Americans are waking up out of the nightmare that the media and Bush have lain at our feet. Lets hope they are smart enough to not vote for McCain.

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xoites defends Constitution Says:

bullfrog @ 5:

i wish i was officially working for the obama campaign.

all he had to say was, “don’t you know those things are made in china?”

DEBATE OVER.

Not all of them, the magnets supporting the troops certainly are.

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bullfrog Says:

xoites defends Constitution @ 4:

Word has it that Hillary Clinton was tape recorded in a closed meeting slaming Move On Dot Org.

Anyone else hear this?

no, but i heard she was recorded in a private session bilking stan lee. VERY big mistake. peter paul trial opens a week from today.

you do not fuck with stan lee. he’s dr. strange, j. jonah jameson and the silver surfer all rolled into one.

a mystic with the power of the press at his fingertips, not to mention the power cosmic.

EXCELSIOR!!

’nuff said.

Ok, HuffPo is reporting it now that Hillary is essentially attacking MoveOn.org and their supporters.

Wow, I have the feeling she might pull a Joe Lieberman if she doesn’t win the nomination. Instead of going to the Republican side, she’ll just try to split the Democratic Party in half. That would be perfectly fine by me. I’d love to have a Progressive Party with people like Obama, Feingold and Hagel. She can have the Reagan Democrats who constantly vote against their self-interests anyway which empowers the Conservative movement and drags the entire party down.

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JGabriel Says:

Deep Thought for the Day:

How come we never hear a question to a Republican defended with the rationale that it will be used against him by the Democrats?

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Filthy Harry Says:

xoites defends Constitution @ 4:

Word has it that Hillary Clinton was tape recorded in a closed meeting slaming Move On Dot Org.

Anyone else hear this?

Here it is: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....97484.html

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justabill Says:

Will Bunch:

Obama’s been under fire for the last week for suggesting that Rust Belt voters — facing a swirl of feelings about the economy and “people who don’t look like them” — are wooed by wedge issues.

ABC’s contribution to that discussion: Wooing voters with wedge issues.

Sad.

Too true.

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xoites defends Constitution Says:

The last person i would ever vote for for President is the person who drapes him or herself in the American Flag. Also the last person i would invite to dinner, carpool with or have sex with.

“Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.”
Samuel Johnson

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NoBuddy Says:

Back in 2003, I got only over-the-air television. ABC was the network that was most actively promoting the war, with their news coverage morphing into marketing the war. So, they embrace the neocon middle-east agenda, and share ownership in the disastrous results.

So, as Obama pointed out, the strategy is to raise secondary issues, as the GOP did in 2004, with the Kerry/Vietnam issue.

We need to focus on bad judgment leading to the war, bad economic “borrow and spend” policies leading to the current weak dollar and corresponding inflation, and the fact that the GOP hasn’t had any health care policies designed to help the average American.

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xoites defends Constitution Says:

Filthy Harry @ 12:

xoites defends Constitution @ 4:

Word has it that Hillary Clinton was tape recorded in a closed meeting slaming Move On Dot Org.

Anyone else hear this?

Here it is: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....97484.html

Well there it is, she opposses the left. No wonder she praises John McCain. They are in the same Political Party.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

Oh and by the way beer isn’t food.

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xoites defends Constitution Says:

L.A. Confidential @ 17:

Oh and by the way beer isn’t food.

It is if it is well brewed. You can actually live on most micro brews. You just won’t know why.

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OldDave Says:

L.A. Confidential @ 17:

Oh and by the way beer isn’t food.

But it’s one hell of a substitute. ;-)

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P.D. Says:

Are you guys planning on getting smashed? If so, I would like to join you.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

xoites defends Constitution @ 18:

It is if it is well brewed. You can actually live on most micro brews. You just won’t know why.

LOL you and Keith Richards are a pair.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

P.D. @ 20:

Are you guys planning on getting smashed? If so, I would like to join you.

I quit drinking 18 years ago.

Still have a hangover though.

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xoites defends Constitution Says:

L.A. Confidential @ 21:

xoites defends Constitution @ 18:

It is if it is well brewed. You can actually live on most micro brews. You just won’t know why.

LOL you and Keith Richards are a pair.

I thought his theory had something to do with heroin.

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David Hawes Says:

L.A. Confidential @ 17:

Oh and by the way beer isn’t food.

Now,LA You know that’s not true. There is food in the beer But no beer in the food.

L.A. Confidential @ 17:

Oh and by the way beer isn’t food.

You must have never been to Milwaukee?

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L.A. Confidential Says:

xoites defends Constitution @ 23:

L.A. Confidential @ 21:

xoites defends Constitution @ 18:

It is if it is well brewed. You can actually live on most micro brews. You just won’t know why.

LOL you and Keith Richards are a pair.

I thought his theory had something to do with heroin.

Beer and Heroin. I suppose that could be considered a rockers eggs and bacon.

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bullfrog Says:

xoites defends Constitution @ 8:

bullfrog @ 5:

i wish i was officially working for the obama campaign.

all he had to say was, “don’t you know those things are made in china?”

DEBATE OVER.

Not all of them, the magnets supporting the troops certainly are.

it doesn’t matter if it’s 100 % factually accurate, it’s a zinger that would instantly resonate across america -and get obama endless press coverage.

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David Hawes Says:

P.D. @ 20:

Are you guys planning on getting smashed? If so, I would like to join you.

After all this lunacy can You blame US? Welcome.

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xoites defends Constitution Says:

Mister Anderson @ 25:

L.A. Confidential @ 17:

Oh and by the way beer isn’t food.

You must have never been to Milwaukee?

Do they make beer in Milwaukee? Milwaukee’s Best ain’t exactly beer.

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P.D. Says:

Yeah LA, Hopefully the hang-over will end in November. If McCain is elected, I’ll probably wil move to Canada. If I have the money, that is.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

Mister Anderson @ 25:

L.A. Confidential @ 17:

Oh and by the way beer isn’t food.

You must have never been to Milwaukee?

Oh yeah I have. Milwaukees best used to be my favorite cheap beer.

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Jimmi the Grey Says:

Mister Anderson @ 2:

All of this is getting surreal.

Just finding out how deep the rabbit hole goes, eh Mr. Anderson?

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xoites defends Constitution Says:

The beer is on me (whenever i spill it.)

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L.A. Confidential Says:

P.D. @ 30:

Yeah LA, Hopefully the hang-over will end in November. If McCain is elected, I’ll probably wil move to Canada. If I have the money, that is.

I drink water now. It’s the most affordable beverage anymore.

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David Hawes Says:

I loved Shlitz myself.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

David Hawes @ 35:

I loved Shlitz myself.

Good ol’ Shlitz. Okay stop it now your making me think of ICE COLD beer.

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Jimmi the Grey Says:

David Hawes @ 28:

P.D. @ 20:

Are you guys planning on getting smashed? If so, I would like to join you.

After all this lunacy can You blame US? Welcome.

As both and American and a barkeep, I not only don’t blame ya, I welcome ya.

Remember to tip your waitstaff!

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L.A. Confidential Says:

That delicious, icy cold, tingly, thirst quenching . . . . .

Oh boy

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David Hawes Says:

L.A. Confidential @ 36:

David Hawes @ 35:

I loved Shlitz myself.

Good ol’ Shlitz. Okay stop it now your making me think of ICE COLD beer.

Yep ICE COLD right out of a cooler that froze your hand. MMMMM.

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xoites defends Constitution Says:

Jimmi the Grey @ 37:

David Hawes @ 28:

P.D. @ 20:

Are you guys planning on getting smashed? If so, I would like to join you.

After all this lunacy can You blame US? Welcome.

As both and American and a barkeep, I not only don’t blame ya, I welcome ya.

Remember to tip your waitstaff!

It is bad luck not to tip and make it at LEAST 20%. Most people who work for tips get a very low (below minimum wage) hourly rate.

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P.D. Says:

La, Don’t cave in. I’ll do the drinking for the both of us!

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Mate Says:

Obama should not succumb to the pressure. He should not wear a flag pin.

If he does, it will show those whiners that not only does their nonsense count and that their trivial BS matters, but that Obama is willing to bend over backwards to satisfy their inane flag pin issue.

Let’s not reduce the political dialog in this country to flag pins. It’s ridiculous and immature as it is. Other countries with a more educated electorate must be feeling really sorry for the US these days.

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crazylikeafox Says:

L.A. Confidential @ 34:

P.D. @ 30:

Yeah LA, Hopefully the hang-over will end in November. If McCain is elected, I’ll probably wil move to Canada. If I have the money, that is.

If McCain is elected, the United States will be destroyed. I really believe that if these insane policies continue this statement won’t be hyperbole.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

P.D. @ 41:

La, Don’t cave in. I’ll do the drinking for the both of us!

Sounds good to me.

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David Hawes Says:

xoites defends Constitution @ 40:

Jimmi the Grey @ 37:

David Hawes @ 28:

P.D. @ 20: After all this lunacy can You blame US? Welcome.

As both and American and a barkeep, I not only don’t blame ya, I welcome ya.I always rewarded the barkeep and barmisses. You get good service-it’s a fine barter system.

Remember to tip your waitstaff!

It is bad luck not to tip and make it at LEAST 20%. Most people who work for tips get a very low (below minimum wage) hourly rate.

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xoites defends Constitution Says:

Mate @ 42:

Obama should not succumb to the pressure. He should not wear a flag pin.

If he does, it will show those whiners that not only does their nonsense count and that their trivial BS matters, but that Obama is willing to bend over backwards to satisfy their inane flag pin issue.

Let’s not reduce the political dialog in this country to flag pins. It’s ridiculous and immature as it is. Other countries with a more educated electorate must be feeling really sorry for the US these days.

I think that is why we have elevated it to beer.

Jimmi the Grey @ 32:

Mister Anderson @ 2:

All of this is getting surreal.

Just finding out how deep the rabbit hole goes, eh Mr. Anderson?

Of Course. I’m digging to China, but being that they control much of our national debt including this war being fought on a credit card, I fear that I’m already there!

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David Hawes Says:

David Hawes @ 45:

xoites defends Constitution @ 40:

Jimmi the Grey @ 37:

David Hawes @ 28:

As both and American and a barkeep, I not only don’t blame ya, I welcome ya.I always rewarded the barkeep and barmisses. You get good service-it’s a fine barter system.

Remember to tip your waitstaff!

It is bad luck not to tip and make it at LEAST 20%. Most people who work for tips get a very low (below minimum wage) hourly rate.

I always rewarded the barkeep and barmisses. You get good service-it’s a fine barter system

Mate @ 42:

Obama should not succumb to the pressure. He should not wear a flag pin.

If he does, it will show those whiners that not only does their nonsense count and that their trivial BS matters, but that Obama is willing to bend over backwards to satisfy their inane flag pin issue.

Let’s not reduce the political dialog in this country to flag pins. It’s ridiculous and immature as it is. Other countries with a more educated electorate must be feeling really sorry for the US these days.

Has anyone noticed that any time Obama is asked the flag pin question, the questioner or any of his opponents that attack him for it are not wearing one either? Seriously, when is the last time someone has attacked Obama about wearing a flag pin while wearing a flag pin?

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VegasRage Says:

Because there are two kinds of patriotism, one unites a nation in a common purpose representing who we are in that effort. The other divides and separates us from the world falsely inflating our stature. Bush divide