One more thing about Wednesday night’s Democratic debate and then I’ll let it go. Determining which of the discussion topics was the most inane is tricky, but I’d have to go with the flag lapel-pin question.
Early on in the debate, Charlie Gibson said he wanted to offer a question that “goes to the basic issue of electability.” Gibson said, “[I]t is a question raised by a voter in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, a woman by the name of Nash McCabe.” From videotape, McCabe then asked Obama if he “believe[s] in” the American flag, and why he doesn’t “wear the flag.”
For ABC, this offers a little distance from the trivia — the moderators didn’t ask about lapel pins, some regular ol’ person did. I had assumed that ABC went around western Pennsylvania, looking for voters with good questions, and thought McCabe’s was provocative.
But that’s not quite what happened — ABC appears to have sought McCabe out.
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Given Gibson’s FALSE statement about capital gains tax cuts causing increase in revenue, someone MIGHT think Mr. Gibson was a little biased in his moderation when you add this little tidbit in. Add in Stephonopolous’ former positions and the dynamic of the whole debate its easy to see how someone might come to the conclusion that these two chuckleheads had an agenda.
Why hasn’t anyone but Keith Olbermann posted that audio of Stephanlpolus dictating the Ayers question from Sean Hannity on Hannity’s radio show?
I’m watching Dan Abrams and they say they have a audio tape of Hillary Clinton attacking MoveOn.org for bullying her supporters. Is this true?
I’m a member of MoveOn and I signed the ABC petition, but to say that the left-wing of the Democratic Party is against her will become a self-fulfilling prophecy! How in the hell will she win in November if she doesn’t have the extreme left-wing to combat the extreme Right-wing?
All of this is getting surreal.
My letter to Charly and George,
Word has it that Hillary Clinton was tape recorded in a closed meeting slaming Move On Dot Org.
Anyone else hear this?
i wish i was officially working for the obama campaign.
all he had to say was, “don’t you know those things are made in china?”
DEBATE OVER.
i’m confused. i don’t think i’ve ever seen Mrs. Clinton wearing a flap lapel pin or flag brooch. Is she electable?
The debate was a farce, but it has shown the average Americans what a worthless medium are so-called news, really is. The fact people were booing isn’t lost on many of the execs. Americans are waking up out of the nightmare that the media and Bush have lain at our feet. Lets hope they are smart enough to not vote for McCain.
bullfrog @ 5:
Not all of them, the magnets supporting the troops certainly are.
xoites defends Constitution @ 4:
no, but i heard she was recorded in a private session bilking stan lee. VERY big mistake. peter paul trial opens a week from today.
you do not fuck with stan lee. he’s dr. strange, j. jonah jameson and the silver surfer all rolled into one.
a mystic with the power of the press at his fingertips, not to mention the power cosmic.
EXCELSIOR!!
’nuff said.
Ok, HuffPo is reporting it now that Hillary is essentially attacking MoveOn.org and their supporters.
Wow, I have the feeling she might pull a Joe Lieberman if she doesn’t win the nomination. Instead of going to the Republican side, she’ll just try to split the Democratic Party in half. That would be perfectly fine by me. I’d love to have a Progressive Party with people like Obama, Feingold and Hagel. She can have the Reagan Democrats who constantly vote against their self-interests anyway which empowers the Conservative movement and drags the entire party down.
Deep Thought for the Day:
How come we never hear a question to a Republican defended with the rationale that it will be used against him by the Democrats?
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xoites defends Constitution @ 4:
Here it is: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....97484.html
Will Bunch:
Too true.
The last person i would ever vote for for President is the person who drapes him or herself in the American Flag. Also the last person i would invite to dinner, carpool with or have sex with.
“Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.”
Samuel Johnson
Back in 2003, I got only over-the-air television. ABC was the network that was most actively promoting the war, with their news coverage morphing into marketing the war. So, they embrace the neocon middle-east agenda, and share ownership in the disastrous results.
So, as Obama pointed out, the strategy is to raise secondary issues, as the GOP did in 2004, with the Kerry/Vietnam issue.
We need to focus on bad judgment leading to the war, bad economic “borrow and spend” policies leading to the current weak dollar and corresponding inflation, and the fact that the GOP hasn’t had any health care policies designed to help the average American.
Filthy Harry @ 12:
Well there it is, she opposses the left. No wonder she praises John McCain. They are in the same Political Party.
Oh and by the way beer isn’t food.
L.A. Confidential @ 17:
It is if it is well brewed. You can actually live on most micro brews. You just won’t know why.
L.A. Confidential @ 17:
But it’s one hell of a substitute. ;-)
Are you guys planning on getting smashed? If so, I would like to join you.
xoites defends Constitution @ 18:
LOL you and Keith Richards are a pair.
P.D. @ 20:
I quit drinking 18 years ago.
Still have a hangover though.
L.A. Confidential @ 21:
I thought his theory had something to do with heroin.
L.A. Confidential @ 17:
Now,LA You know that’s not true. There is food in the beer But no beer in the food.
L.A. Confidential @ 17:
You must have never been to Milwaukee?
xoites defends Constitution @ 23:
Beer and Heroin. I suppose that could be considered a rockers eggs and bacon.
xoites defends Constitution @ 8:
it doesn’t matter if it’s 100 % factually accurate, it’s a zinger that would instantly resonate across america -and get obama endless press coverage.
P.D. @ 20:
After all this lunacy can You blame US? Welcome.
Mister Anderson @ 25:
Do they make beer in Milwaukee? Milwaukee’s Best ain’t exactly beer.
Yeah LA, Hopefully the hang-over will end in November. If McCain is elected, I’ll probably wil move to Canada. If I have the money, that is.
Mister Anderson @ 25:
Oh yeah I have. Milwaukees best used to be my favorite cheap beer.
Mister Anderson @ 2:
Just finding out how deep the rabbit hole goes, eh Mr. Anderson?
The beer is on me (whenever i spill it.)
P.D. @ 30:
I drink water now. It’s the most affordable beverage anymore.
I loved Shlitz myself.
David Hawes @ 35:
Good ol’ Shlitz. Okay stop it now your making me think of ICE COLD beer.
David Hawes @ 28:
As both and American and a barkeep, I not only don’t blame ya, I welcome ya.
Remember to tip your waitstaff!
That delicious, icy cold, tingly, thirst quenching . . . . .
Oh boy
L.A. Confidential @ 36:
Yep ICE COLD right out of a cooler that froze your hand. MMMMM.
Jimmi the Grey @ 37:
It is bad luck not to tip and make it at LEAST 20%. Most people who work for tips get a very low (below minimum wage) hourly rate.
La, Don’t cave in. I’ll do the drinking for the both of us!
Obama should not succumb to the pressure. He should not wear a flag pin.
If he does, it will show those whiners that not only does their nonsense count and that their trivial BS matters, but that Obama is willing to bend over backwards to satisfy their inane flag pin issue.
Let’s not reduce the political dialog in this country to flag pins. It’s ridiculous and immature as it is. Other countries with a more educated electorate must be feeling really sorry for the US these days.
L.A. Confidential @ 34:
P.D. @ 41:
Sounds good to me.
xoites defends Constitution @ 40:
Mate @ 42:
I think that is why we have elevated it to beer.
Jimmi the Grey @ 32:
Of Course. I’m digging to China, but being that they control much of our national debt including this war being fought on a credit card, I fear that I’m already there!
David Hawes @ 45:
I always rewarded the barkeep and barmisses. You get good service-it’s a fine barter system
Mate @ 42:
Has anyone noticed that any time Obama is asked the flag pin question, the questioner or any of his opponents that attack him for it are not wearing one either? Seriously, when is the last time someone has attacked Obama about wearing a flag pin while wearing a flag pin?
Because there are two kinds of patriotism, one unites a nation in a common purpose representing who we are in that effort. The other divides and separates us from the world falsely inflating our stature. Bush divide