The Chris Matthews Show: How Does McCain Attract The Youth Vote?
By Nicole Belle Saturday Apr 19, 2008 1:30pm
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It's one of those "through the looking glass" moments I get often when watching the news coverage of John McCain. Sitting on a new NBC/WSJ poll that shows that young voters (18-34) preferring John McCain slightly over Barack Obama and significantly more against Hillary Clinton (why???), Chris Matthews poses the question to his panel if they think that McCain can grab that voting bloc.
Their responses really reflect the media's love affair with John McCain. For David Gregory, McCain transcends the innate skepticism politics that youths have, despite his rather long history of flip-flopping and pandering. For Katty Kay, he represents the security vote, despite the fact that he continues to champion an occupation that the GAO has said is making us less safe. And for Howard Fineman, he suspects that young voters may be attracted to his "feisty grandpa" routine, despite an infamous surly temper. Only Philadelphia anchor Renee Chenault-Fattah notes that the media coverage is helping McCain and that his support for Bush's policies in Iraq may cost him dearly.
Transcripts below the fold:
Matthews: David, can he win them (the youth vote)?
Gregory: It’s possible. I think, authenticity and McCain are two things you think about. And I think people my age — in the 30s and younger – are more skeptical of institutions. They’re skeptical about politics, about political figures and I still think McCain transcends that. And certainly Obama does. I think it will be a tight contest.
Matthews: Katty, he’s pro-life on abortion rights and he’s pro-war. Can he win young people with those stances?
Kay: I think he can win if security and the war are issues in November. If they’re on the front page and people are feeling nervous, the way they did in 2000, the way they did in 2004, then I think John McCain resonates experience, gravitas, somebody who you might feel safe with in a way that Barack Obama doesn’t.
Matthews: Renee, let’s talk about the rallies. When we had McCain at the college fair this week, there’s 4,000 kids, students at Villanova. That was the largest crowd he ever had. Obama wades through crowds like that every day of the week. How do you beat a guy who can get registration figures up in Pennsylvania like that and get crowds like that?
Chenault-Fattah: I mean, his appearance on Hardball with you certainly served him well. But I think this is a candidate who’s defined by the war. Interestingly, when he was talking to you about Iraq and the future of Iran, that audience was silent. And I don’t know how, if that is the issue come the fall, and we’ll certainly see what happens, how he transcends that, no matter how straight-talking he fashions himself or you know, the sense of humor that he has.
Matthews: If he can contest young voters, it seems to me he’s really in play in the general.
Fineman: I think he is. And having seen him on the campaign trail with crowds, even back in New Hampshire, he had a lot of kids working for him in New Hampshire, it was somewhat surprising. But I think he’s got that twinkle in the eye…it’s a combination of being “unpolitical” as David said, and also offering a sort of “kick butt” mentality on security, which is going to appeal to a lot of kids, it really is. More than we might think.
Media coverage helping McCain...well that gal won't be appearing again anytime soon...must have missed the morning "talking points" memo! It's creepily scary to me that our MSM is again pushing a dufus (if of another stripe)...gotta wonder who is signing the checks?????
Yes of course, because lord knows, no one can speak to America's youth like an addled, cranky 72 year old man who can't keep his facts straight.
Reminds me of those anti-drug ads where the kids are hanging out with their grandparents to get to the drugs in the medicine cabinet.
Kay: I think he can win if security and the war are issues in November. If they’re on the front page and people are feeling nervous, the way they did in 2000, the way they did in 2004, then I think John McCain resonates experience, gravitas, somebody who you might feel safe with in a way that Barack Obama doesn’t.
Ok, so McCain's got the bedwetter vote sewed up. Big deal.
Matthews: If he can contest young voters, it seems to me he’s really in play in the general.
Contest young voters??? WTF?? Can somebody tell me what that means???
McCain could start dressing like the Fonz. That should bring in the youth vote.
We were watching that show this morning and when this topic came up, my husband said, "They are not living in the real world. No way in hell young people are going to gather around that man."
We had just watched McCain on George's show and McCain came across as an old man who was off his meds. He kept doing his nervous laugh and contradicting himself like crazy.
geneHUSSEIN214 @ 5:
Sorry, Matthews is the only one who can tell you what it means. I haven't a clue.
Right, the youth of this country are going to vote to be drafted into the war for oil...they are delusional as usual.
This is obviously going to change when it becomes a two-horse race...
Fucking delusional. Can these people really believe their own shit this much? I mean come on...... Jesus fuck I want to grab the asshole by the collar and just shake them..
But this concern over who will corner the youth vote begs the question as to whether the younger generation will carefully examine the issues of each of the candidates and by doing so, will they actually come to the realization that none of the three major candidates is advocating the total and immediate withdrawal of U.S. forces from that abattoir in Iraq? Will they have the foresight of many of their parents' generation by actually questioning authority and the need of the government and the politicians who are so quick to wage war for no valid reason whatsoever? Will they be able to think for themselves or will they be so quick to be swayed by the mainstream media and their desire to stir up patriotic fervor?
I seriously doubt the veracity of that poll, unless they were exclusively asking young Republicans. For more of a reality check, see the San Francisco Chronicle's article,
'Millennial Generation' set to rock the vote at http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/19/MNN7107FVE.D...
pissed off patricia @ 7:
It never ceases to amaze me, these pompous, out of touch, talking heads sitting around having these phoney as hell "earnest" discusstions about what will or will not resonate with the "youth" vote. I had a similar reaction one day last week when, much to my disgust, I had the misfortune of catching Brit Fumes' show. The topic was Obama's "bitter" remark and he had the likes of Mort Kondracke, Charlie Krauthammer, and Fred Barnes bloviating on what should or should not offend working class Americans, as if these three old white guys would have the slightest clue as to what it means to be working class in this country. Really pathetic.
Maybe the question posed to the youth was "Do you prefer Barack Obama, or a piping hot tasty plate of McCain Super Fries?" I know which one I'd choose.
(Wait: do they even have McCain Super Fries in the US?)
I don't know the methodology of this poll, but if the survey was done by phone then the results may mean less than nothing. A lot of 18-24 year olds use cell phones as their primary means of voice communication, and they probably weren't included in the survey.
"It’s one of those “through the looking glass” moments "---------How about a half hour of" WTF through the BROKEN looking glass?",or gazing in of those circus mirrors that distort reality! For Chrissakes,what did this panel have for breakfast,EVEN Howard Fineman,no less? The expiration date on integrity is exceedingly short lived --- I don't believe that there is even a sell by date stamped on these shills,anymore.They need to retire before they expire. (Come to think of it,that would be sound advice for McCain.)
I can't find any other link to that poll that quotes those numbers. Why does every other poll have Obama blowing everyone else away in that age range??
Lurkitty @ 19:
Neither could I when I was trying to find a link for it. I'm curious to the particulars on that poll.
once again we are presented with a fixed loop and told it is THE WAY THINGS ARE.
the msm is nothing more than communications departments for large corporations which hold as their chief and, by far, most important function - make profits.
McCain has no appeal. the polls are lies. but the msm needs him to win (or failing that, Clinton, whom they deem less problematic than Obama) to assure their overlords of continued access to the public trough.
one can only hope that Obama recognizes the need for independent media and an end to ownership concentration.
[bucket of cold water]
McCain will be the next president of the US.
YES, The majority of americans are in fact Fascist.
NO, the american people have not had enough.
[\bucket of cold water]
The only question is: how many lies will the American voter be allowed to enter the voting booth with.
As long as no one is looking critically at John McCain, they may believe his is 'a safe pair of hands', 'a nice guy', 'a straight talker', etc.
They may also believe that Barack Obama 'is a Muslim', 'a Black Nationalist', with 'friends from the radical 60's underground', etc.
So the real question is - when is the media going to live up to it's constitutional obligations to inform the electorate?
Perhaps we should start to seriously threaten the media with the fact that any Democratic administration is going to look seriously at reinstating the 'Fairness Doctrine', enforce existing laws that make generating propaganda an illegal act, and start to break up corporate control of the airwaves.
Maybe if they get that message, they will start doing their jobs?
Terry Cunningham @ 17:
Phone polls are a joke. How many people surveyed actually are within that age group?? I have no trouble imagining some 40 or 50 year old dittohead saying "Oh yeah, I'm between 18 and 24 years old!!" just so they can fuck with the survey.
This is bullshit. I've long thought that they'd try this crap one more time...constructing another razor-thin win for the GOP, and claiming that the country's "just so divided". We fucking KNOW differently. McCain excite the youth vote...? Please.
All you have to do is look--look at the comparative crowds for the candidates. McCain's usually playing to a barely-filled small room, and Obama's turning 'em away at stadiums.
Come on, Corporate Overlords...we're not buying this shit again.
There's one word that would dissolve this attraction of youth to McCain in a second: DRAFT!
Let's do it, please.
IndridCold @ 22:
You may be right about that, Indrid, but I'd like to hold out at least some hope (until November, at least).
Lisa Williamson @ 13:
Bingo ! It's an NBC/WSJ poll . Two corporations that WANT McCain to continue the slaughter in the Middle East . So the likelyhood that it's skewed is about 98%, plus or minus 2%, 4 times out of 5.
This is a Rupert Murdock owned Wall Street Journal poll. I would suspect the results are highly skewed.
McCain said he was "illiterate" when it comes to computers and has to rely on his wife.
I think young people can relate and would want a president who was so retro.
I can only see his numbers going up when the real election comes.
You know, I don't think I've seen one of these panels discuss how a Democrat could beat a Republican on some key point. If the Democrat has the advantage, the media doesn't talk about it. But if a poll comes out that show the Republican has the tiniest edge-- even a statistically irrelevant one-- you can count on our corporate media to talk it up for days on end.
How about this otion? "they just make shit up"
I do not beileve those numbers any more than I believe anything else from the fucking wall street journal and general electric. McLame has a better chance of catcing herpes from Paris Hilton than of capturing the youth vote.
There's only one thing you can count on when it comes to the "youth vote" and that's you can never count on it.
National Chair, Youth For McCain
geneHUSSEIN214 @ 27:
I'm with you, hope is what we got left. Nothing wrong with that.
The polls are worthless, what more evidence does one need? Furthermore, it's clear that the press isn't just drinking the kool-aid, it's mixing it up and adding extra sugar to make the bad medicine go down. Once the economy becomes the abiding issue, and the cause of our moral and fiscal depression is pointed out over and over again by the Dems, this Press Release McCain will be exposed for the rusty piece of junk that he is.
I live in downtown NYC and own a record shop... I deal with young people day in and day out. Of course, New York City is a bastion of latte sipping america hating libruls ;) but even as I travel through central PA, MD, NJ, CT, MA... folks my age (30) and younger are all Obama. These numbers are waaaaaaaay off. Yet another example of the media being totally disconnected from reality.
Numbers can be made to dance......except the Watusi.
Doug @ 30:
Yeah, he can explain things like shoe horns, Vitalis, the Model A, and the "old 23 skiddoo".
Once again, Matthews at his highest journalistic integrity. This of course would fail a statistics course in any Statistics course in any high school. Looking at Quinnapiac Obama that same month in NY rated 8 points above McCain at that poll has twice the sample size. Of course it is only 1257 and any statistics student should tell you that for accuracy there should be a sample size of 2000!
Oh, the interesting poll Matthews uses happens to be THE ONLY one that shows McCain leading. Yes, and its sample size is 576! Did they mention that the % error us +/-4%. Which is about right with the others if we add 4% to Obama and subtract four from McCain. What do you know... then McCain is getting a thrashing, like the other polls say.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ny/new_york_mccain_vs_obama-343.html
Someone should call them out for this. It is clear something is going on here. Even if the poll is a constant fluke, which I doubt, why did Matthews Cherry pick this data for his show and mislead the public to think that this is even close to the truth.
for those who want to see a comparison - see below.
Quinnipiac 04/14 - 04/15 1257 LV 39 47 9 Obama +8.0
SurveyUSA 04/11 - 04/13 499 RV 43 52 5 Obama +9.0
WNBC/Marist 04/03 - 04/04 576 RV 48 46 6 McCain +2.0
Quinnipiac 03/16 - 03/18 1528 RV 38 49 8 Obama +11.0
Rasmussen 03/11 - 03/11 500 LV 38 51 11 Obama +13.0
SurveyUSA 02/26 - 02/28 592 RV 38 52 10 Obama +14.0
SurveyUSA 02/15 - 02/17 519 RV 36 57 7 Obama +21.0
Siena 02/11 - 02/14 633 RV 40 47 13 Obama +7.0
SurveyUSA 01/20 - 01/21 516 RV 43 49 8 Obama +6.0
SurveyUSA 12/13 - 12/15 503 RV 43 47 10 Obama +4.0
SurveyUSA 11/09 - 11/11 516 RV 43 49 9 Obama +6.0
Quinnipiac 09/24 - 09/30 1504 RV 39 47 8 Obama +8.0
Siena 06/18 - 06/21 800 RV 35 49 -- Obama +14.0
How the hell can you even do a poll like this? Most 18 -34 people that I know, don't have hardline phones, they use cell phones, which you can't poll. The msm is bought and paid for by the rightwing repugs
Gregory, and Matthews no longer have any credence in the journalist world; both should be, and hopefully will be out of a job in the near future. Matthews is simply stupid, whereas Gregory is just plain loathsome.
David Wolf @ 40:
.......Excellent information!
Once again the real research is being done in the internets and the blogs. Too bad McLAme and Co will never see it.
Mike @ 39:
Not to mention kicking back and listening to 78's on the Victrola.
They are talking about the youth vote going to McCrazy, and I can't understand why anybody of any age would vote for this clown.
diamondmc @ 45:
That's as mystifying as the media talking heads saying how Obama supporters will defect to McCain if Hillary gets the nomination. It just doesn't make sense on any level.
geneHUSSEIN214 @ 44:
C'mon dude, its Ol' Victrola. Thats how they said it 80 years ago. Try not to disrespect the octagenerian presidential candidate.
geneHUSSEIN214 @ 4:
LMAO, yes McGramps is the creepy drunklen Santa in the dept store with the uncomfortable kids sitting on his lap.
You have to be kidding? I understand that the yuppies that have the breaks and have the high paying jobs are pro-repug. It serves their self interests to follow the party that has a history of looking out for the "money people".
But this is crazy. I'm not buying this poll bullshit that mcbush is beating Obama with the young vote. Give me a break MSM....this is just total nonsense. I don't need a poll to convince me on this one. If the young are happy with the way things are going in the US and the love losing their civil liberties and waging war on nations that have done NOTHING against us...then I'll eat my hat.
Mike @ 47:
Sorry, Mike - my bad!!:-)
Sounds like a "created" poll so they could have something to fill time with. All the more reason to get a decision from the Dems. so old McSame will be force to expose himself---ugh the thought of it!
#Jonathan , the media is not being disconnected from reality. They are fullfilling the function their owners want them to fulfill.
How does McCain attract the youth vote?
I believe he uses tinker toys and teddy bears.
Corporations have been doing a slow, subtle brainwash of America's younger voters (18 to 35) for years: That age group is wooed, flattered, and is the darling of corporations. A surprising number of them buy into "capitalist" idea, and completely dis the suggestion that they are nurturing a fascist environment.
They don't know what a "pension" is. They think Social Security won't be there for them. They think a health savings account is a good idea (for that age bracket, which is mostly healthy, health insurance can be obtained for a song). They don't watch the corporate news, so they feel they're not being brainwashed.
The 18 to 35 year-olds coexist in a completely different world from the rest of us.
It is up to the dems to enlighten them. Having a military draft would have been a wise thing, in hindsight, a necessary thing. After 5 years in a hopeless, deadly occupation of Iraq, you would have seen hundreds of thousands of younger people marching in the streets, burning their draft cards.
It is unbelievable that we are having this discussion. The systematic destruction of this country has still not gotten through to 95% of the people.
Jonathan @ 37:
you forget the mass of middle america dumbs in the small towns, the highlight of the week is getting drunk on a thursday/friday/saturday night,
fighting in the bars and streets and a night in the cells for their fun.
I live in such a town, there are many dumb unconnected uninformed people out here, they watch MSM news sound bites and believe McCain is young strong and virile, and will protect them from the Islamic hordes when they invade from Mexico and Canada.
Speaking of love affairs, good Lance Manion piece today on McVain:
The Maverick and Commander is one of the vainest human beings to run for President in my lifetime. One of the vainest that I have ever read about. He is pathologically obsessed with his image as the straight-shooter, the most honest man in Washington, the only one of the whole lot who is his own person and calls his own shots, the only one who speaks his mind and damns the consequences. It's all a lie and he probably knows it, but that only makes him more desperate to see himself as what he pretends to be. He is Snow White's step-mother going three or four times a day to her magic mirror to ask the same question and hear the same answer, and fortunately for him the Insider Journalists are happy to act the part of the magic mirror.
"Journalists, journalists, on my bus, who is the most straight-talkingest of all?"
"Thou, oh St John McCain, are the straight-talkingest of all! May we bring you another box of donuts?"
The Maverick and Commander loves the boys and girls on the bus as long as they are content to be nothing but his reflection. But whenever one of them starts acting like a real journalist and asks a tough question that strikes at St John's vanity, he reacts as angrily as the Queen when the answer to her question comes back, Snow White.
Most of the boys and girls on the Straight-Talk Express appear to believe when the Maverick and Commander smiles at his own reflection he is in fact smiling at them. Too many of the rest are afraid that if they ever come even close to saying the words Snow White he will smash them and grind the remaining shards to powder under his heel.
Lollimom @ 54:
very true
As a youth voter (Turned 18 in time to vote in VT's primary) I can tell you that most of my classmates and I despise McCain for many things, the war is just one of many issues, and that we will vote for Obama in a heartbeat over McCain in November!
I blame you Baby Boomers. You and your naked Jamie Lee Curtis on AARP magazine, your Helen Mirren hotties and your rock and roll geezers. You bunch of old-people worshipping hippies. Couldn't just grow old and make room for the under 50 crowd, could you?
It's your fault, because you have to go and make all the kids think Depends and Geritol are cool. Real groovy, a-holes. Every damn one of you old pinkos - I hope you're happy.
HA
xoites defends Constitution @ 53:
same as all those other RW Xtian Regent feds, bought with (40% fraud rate according to the GAO) Federal credit cards.
six billion dollars of fraud and stolen goods (ipods, digicameras, laptops) according to the GAO from their random survey.
rather a good way to entrap and 'onmessage' the federal horde and prevent whistle blowing.
David Wolf @ 40:
Good follow up, David. Let's push them and others on this. The ABC "debate" debacle did get coverage which was surprising. Maybe if the MSM knows that they will be called out on things, every time, we'll get more careful reporting.
Or should we have a March on the Media?
mojopo @ 59:
Jamie lee Curtis posed naked on the cover of AARP magazine??!! Really??!! No shit??!!! Gonna have to pick up a copy of that magazine - after I throw on a pair of depends and disonnect this geritol drip, that is. By the way, you young whippersnapper you, Helen Mirren was TEH HOT back in the day! :-)
geneHUSSEIN214
Yes, at age 40, I'm like a frigging tweener. And yes - Helen Mirren is the hottest. But...I've been living in the shadow of the Boomers long enough and now I'm going to blame them for something. Now is as good a time as any. I'm going to have fun with this all week.
geneHUSSEIN214 @ 62:
I know you're all speaking tongue-in-cheek BUT...
AARP is nothing but a corporate insurance company. It is not the voice of boomers or any other group. It is a big-time INSURANCE corporation that not only does not speak for the 50+ crowd, it often advocates legislation that goes against the best interests of the 50+ crowd.
Sorry, I had to clarify that...
Lollimom @ 64:
I was just making a tongue in cheek response to the earlier post. I hate the AARP; wouldn't give them a dime of my money even if I could join (got a year or two to go before I qualify). I gave up on that organization when they helped con seniors into supporting Bush's disasterous prescription drug plan. But the point of my post was just having a little fun. Thanks for the clarification though.
Matthews Thinks He Is On A Roll
Having lead the negative movement that turned Hillary Clinton's front runner status to mud, Matthews is on a "I am God" trip. However, MSNBC, CNN, Fox, ABC, and many other media right-wing networks produce suggestive polls that happen to reflect their interest.
Lets look at this closely. There are as many as 20 different polls that reflect different outcomes. I have scene MSNBC polling be, at best, terribly wrong with their polling suggestions candidates was winning by margins that did not reflect the actual end results. You will never see MSNBC march those special commentators out to say "oops we got it wrong."
This kind of claim to have the "scoop" is nothing but an attempt to influence public opinion. By making the claim young voters are flocking to John McCain, they hope to introduce a "fad" dynamic that favors McCain. Matthews, after doing this for Barack Obama, now feels he's in the make it or brake it business of producing presidents.
Polling, in general, cannot be trusted. Today, with Cnn producing one poll under CNN and then producing another under CNN/Gallup or CNN/USA, they are attempting to influence the average. So, what you get is similar polling numbers from CNN, Gallup, USA, and many others polling groups. When one cannot change the average, they mix it up to this example: Mason Dixon/NBC, NBC alone, Mason Dixon alone, NBC/McNight, McNight alone.
When these polling groups have the same interest, you end up with a situation like New Hampshire in which at least ten polls were off the mark by more then the margin of error. They got their leading average, even at the risk of reputation. The numbers are not reflective of reality. They are trying to make their own reality.
The worst of these organizations I call poll makers, as apposed to poll takers, is Zogby. Just before every primary, they come out with very low numbers for Clinton. In California, he had Obama winning by 13 points. Clinton won by 10. That was not the only poor prediction that day. He was wrong in New Jersey, New York, and Massachusetts. After Super Tuesday, he continued with off the mark polls for Ohio, Texas, and now seeks to do the same with Pennsylvania. Zogby is getting paid for real bad polls. It makes me want to get into the polling business. I can guess my why to a very nice income.
Is there any real good polls out there? Yes, I know Survey USA is consistently close in their polling. Although university polls are less accurate then Survey USA, they are honest in their attempt to polls the population.
I need not say the media is becoming a big problem. This problem has propaganda written all over it. Unless we get a counter check to this very unbalanced conservative media situation, we are headed for government alien to us all.
Joseph.
This poll seems highly questionable, a point over Barack? For a volatile old man ready to attack Iran and bring back the draft? If mccain gets in, young people, you deserve what you get.
Greup @ 52:
Exactly right - & that playbook was written by Hitler & Goebbels.
It's still being used, because it works ... nearly every single time.
Repetition, distraction, omission, emotional driving, degrading discourse, dirty tricks ... the whole enchilada.
Youth are such a nice soft target, too --- impulsive, imprint-friendly, light on experience & eager to please & impress. Lies implanted in youth can survive for a lifetime.
Apathy & cynicism aren't evils to the media's owners - they're the means to victory.
Just wait until the REAL campaign begins.
You ain't seen nothing yet, folks.
Would you like to try some nice yummy Kool-Aid?
geneHUSSEIN214 @ 65:
Focus, people, Jamie Lee is naked.
Mike, maybe so. But guess what? If you reach over and feel your elbow right now, that's exactly what old-lady nipples feel like.
I'm not happy about it either. I'm a chick. But apparently, you people are into that sort of thing.
By making the claim young voters are flocking to John McCain, they hope to introduce a “fad” dynamic that favors McCain. Matthews, after doing this for Barack Obama, now feels he’s in the make it or brake it business of producing presidents.
Ah, Joseph, where should I start with this? Ok, let's begin with your earlier comment about how Chris Matthew's "turned Hillary's front runner status to mud". Hillary's front runner status started to "turn to mud" once people had had an opportunity to hear Barack Obama's message vis a vis Hillary. His was one of hope, hers was "Vote for me because I'm Mrs Bill Clinton and in my mind, I'm highly qualified to be President because if the terr'ist attack and kill you all you want someone with experience running things". Her singing McCain's praises publicly certainly didn't endear her with longtime Liberal Democratic voters. You give Tweety Matthews too much credit. Hillary destroyed her front runner status when her people started running a filthy, bizarre, slime encrusted campaign against Barack Obama (Hell, even long time cronies like Bill Richardson abandoned her). As for Matthews making Obama's candidacy an attractive "fad" - well, you Hillarybots just can't get it through your heads that people actually LIKE Obama; they responded to his message. Therefore, they actually WANT to vote for Obama. Matthews didn't have a fucking thing to do with Obama's campaign gaining traction.
Is that a poll of young people who read The Wall Street Journal? I'd assume that's a small sample.
Young people should joke about McCain's thinning hair and do a poll of how many he calls trollops and, uh, "rhymes with hunt"s.
I would not be surprised to see John McCain be up by 10-15 percentage points sometime between now & the conventions. The Presidential election has become a popularity contest, & John McCain is the most popular candidate, certainly with the MSM. That is one of the biggest advantages he has, which is why I think he will win in Novmber. The MSM just loves his policies & viewpoints, & will force it down the country's throats.
ferrofluid @ 57:
A few reasons why baby-boomers are dumb.
1. Medical care is free if you don't pay your bills.
2. Paying a quarter of a million dollars for a tar paper shack is a rip-off.
3. The money that you think is in your 401 K plan isn't really there.
4. Taking the BUS is cheaper than driving.
Matthews: Hello, I'm Robin Tweety Leach, and welcome to Lifestyles of the Politically Powerful. Today we'll discuss how we, the hobnobbing class, can help another old man with white hair win over those silly kids. David, can he win them (the youth vote)?
Gregory: Hells yeah! See, we young folk -- did y'all know I'm only in my 30s, and I'm already in the hobnobbing class? How wack is that? -- don't much like politicians. We think they're liars. But with Obama and McCain, we've got two folks who transcend that image. Meaning McCain transcends that image. We think he's a righteous dude.
Matthews: Right on! But, Brit Girl, aren't the silly kids opposed to the war? How can McCain win them over if he's pro-war?
Brit Girl: Oh, don't worry about that, Tweets. He just has to scare the shit out of them. Works every time.
Matthews: Right! How could I forget? Now, Renee, let’s talk about the rallies. When we had McCain at the college fair this week, I did my best to rally the youth for him, and we got a great turnout of silly kids. But, I gotta say, Obama seems able to do that without my help. What do we do about that?
Chenault-Fattah: I mean, his appearance on Hardball with you certainly served him well. But I think this is a candidate who’s defined by the war. Interestingly, when he was talking to you about Iraq and the future of Iran, that audience was silent. So, if Brit Girl is right, I think we're gonna have to make sure the silly kids are literally shitting their pants, not just metaphorically.
Matthews: Well, that's not impossible. I mean, if he can contest young voters, we really can help him win.
Fineman: Exactly. And having seen him on the campaign trail with crowds, even back in New Hampshire, he had a lot of silly kids working for him in New Hampshire, it was somewhat surprising. But I think he’s got that twinkle in the eye…it’s a combination of being “unpolitical” as David said, and also offering a sort of “kick butt” mentality on security, which is going to appeal to a lot of kids, it really is. More than we might think.
All Together: Yeah! Kick ass! McCain Kicks Ass! McCain Kicks Ass!! Woooo!!!
Matthews: Ok, you guys, let's get ready for the next show. David, you'll be hosting, so let's all switch chairs.
Mark @ 73:
Uh, why don't we just wait and see how Johnny handles himself in debates against Obama. I'm predicting it will be like Kennedy/Nixon all over again. The MSM doesn't have nearly the influence as it's talking heads like to pretend. The MSM's power to shape opinion peaked with the run up to the Debacle in Baghdad back in '03, and it has been down hill ever since. Like I say, let's wait and see.
Karen @ 75:
I'm glad you caught Gregory including himself in the youth vote. I believe he's under 34, don't you?
whalleywhat @ 72:
Yes, as a matter of fact, it is. They polled young people who read the Wall Street Journal - both of 'em. The margin of error for the poll is 50%
Nicole Belle @ 77:
:) He's 37, actually. 38 in August. I'm 35, and I don't consider myself a "youth voter."
mojopo @ 70:
mmmmmm....that's kinda hot. I love my elbow...can't quite get it in my mouth though..ouch...pain.....discomfort...must..reach..my...elbow.
Umm...most youths are on cell phones and are generally unreachable on the land-lines pollsters use.
Any youth that votes for McSame are just stupid and uneducated children of even dumber Reslugs.
Limp-Dick Blimpaugh @ 82:
Would salt work?
do these old fucks ever talk to kids???
they dont give a shit about security
they care about their future
can they get a good paying job out of college....the enviroment...health care
stupid shits
How Does McCain Attract The Youth Vote?
Why does this give me an image of mccain as in the raincoat brigade, slouching and snickering inside Time Square when it was still fun?
Look on the bright side.
If McCain wins the election, then you know this country isn't worth fighting for anymore.
PA hHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
That old sack of shit does NOT energize young voters like obama. I don't care what numbers Chris big mouth comes up with.
Chris Matthews and his guests really like to talk about the polls.
I wonder why none of them mentioned the poll result that was posted yesterday that showed Barack Obama losing an 11 point lead over Hillary Clinton to fall behind her by a point in just 4 days in the Gallup Daily Tracking Poll.
I've got a hunch that poll would have occupied a sizable portion of the Chris Matthews Show's airtime if Hillary Clinton had lost an 11 point advantage over Barack Obama to fall behind him in just 4 days.
But nobody mentioned it at all this time.
Is Crooks and Liars going to start a special thread on that topic?
with a fux survey, you can create any numbers you want. how many of the youngsters are giving mcAssHat campaing money?
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