The media rushed to McCain’s side to shower him with love and affection after he told an audience that he’d be happy to stay in Iraq for 100 years. He’s tried to say that American casulties are his bench mark. Well sir, how many Americans do you consider expendable in Iraq? And how many Iraqi’s should die in the process too. Not that they seem to matter in his mind. Heck, it’s only their country.
Over 60% of America believes it was a bad idea to invade them even after the Petraeus Propaganda Show. In the latestes ABC/WaPo poll 56% of Americans believe we should get out of Iraq even after the media blitz on “the surge.”
Do you think the United States should keep its military forces in Iraq until civil order is restored there, even if that means continued U.S. military casualties; OR, do you think the United States should withdraw its military forces from Iraq in order to avoid further U.S. military casualties, even if that means civil order is not restored there? 56% withdraw 41& Keep forces in
There’s no spin here. Their efforts to control the message has not worked. Vote McCain and you’ll get more of the same. It’s that simple.
President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years…Maybe 100. That would be fine with me. President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq 50 years…Maybe 100. If all he offers is more of the same….is John McCain the right choice for America’s future?
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It would be nice if they could add: “John McCain is responsible (or “should be held responsible”) for the content of this advertising.”
Saw it this morning on Beat the Meat. Not a bad start. First thing that grabbed me was how OLD
they made him lookhe IS. Plenty of time to pile it on in subsequent ads. Good job.McCain is a-dancin’ and a-spinnin’, but he can’t get around the fact that he said what he said.
This ad was discussed on Meet The Propaganda this morning. Howard Dean was reminded that some wingnut group somewhere is suing over this ad, claiming it was created in coordination with the Obama and Clinton campaigns.
Project much, neocons?
As if the Democratic Party could coordinate in any case…
I could be totally wrong, but isn’t NBC owned by GE? Doesn’t GE also have military interests? Is GE making a profit of selling their shit to the military?
Why on Earth would GE want their “news” division to do anything other than keep the war going in any way they can? It’s sick.
Excellent. More like this, please.
It is too slow and doesn’t hit hard enough.
War is a racket. Bush and his Krook Kronies wanted a windfall and they saw the opportunity to get it.
It was bait and switch all of the way and maybe people are ready to hear that.
They aren’t going to hear it from the Corporate Media. Except in a political ad.
Many Democrats are also at the feeding trough so…
Oh come on people. Hey, Howard Dean and the DNC! Tell the world right now, do you honestly think the US military will not be in Iraq for decades, if not 100 years? Come on, be realistic. It’s about oil people. Until that oil, which by the way, has made the US what it is, runs out, the US will be in Iraq. I don’t care what politician comes out and lies about leaving says. The US is going NOWHERE. Troops will be in Iraq for decades. Don’t fall for this bullshit.
Swiftboating, Distortion and Fear-Mongering.
Howard Dean: “We’re not like them.”
Nice propaganda, DNC. Seriously, what’s the difference between this ad and the fear-mongering propaganda ads that the RNC churn out?
dennis @ 9:
Dennis, you sound a lot like Charles Barkley when he claimed that he was misquoted in his autobiography.
ConcernedCanuck @ 8:
Do you really think that Corporate America thinks of you as anything other than a tool?
dennis @ 9:
Hmmm… McCain did say he’s not opposed to keeping us in Iraq for 100 more years, and I haven’t seen an organized effort to lie about McCain’s military service the way the Swiftboaters lied about Kerry.
Seems like ya got bupkes, d.
ConcernedCanuck @ 8:
The United States is not deriving any financial benefit from staying in Iraq. Oil or no. And we are going broke trying to stay there.
Result: we’re gone next year. End of discussion.
Scherzo @ 10:
Oh how cute! You want the democrats hold hands and play nice?
The Republicans are on their knees and I say kick em in the balls!
Slaw @ 11:
Ooh, nice comeback Pottsy.
But you wouldn’t say that about Rev. Wright. No, no, he was cherry-picked and taken out of context. Not so here, right Slaw?
I’m not surprised by the DNC running this ad. I just have to laugh when they say they’re not like ‘them’. They’re not- they want to be, but they’re not.
This is worse than Dan Rather’s fake memo.
This is a very weak ad. It uses the very low 500 billion dollar figure which is complete nonsense and has no mention of the perhaps 1,000,000 Iraqi deaths so that these war criminals can make a quick buck. I find it disturbing that the main objection to this war is the it cost money but I do believe Steiglitz’s numbers are more appropiate.
14 slippy hussein toad Says:
The United States is not deriving any financial benefit from staying in Iraq. Oil or no. And we are going broke trying to stay there.
Result: we’re gone next year. End of discussion.
Believe what you want, but what are you going to do when that fairy tale ending does NOT come true? Iraq isn’t making the US go broke. It’s a combination of many many factors with Iraq being one of them. No, sorry, but the US military is going nowhere regardless who promises it. If you think your economy is in sad shape now, wait till you don’t have access to the oil through military tactics. You NEED the oil, and Dems and RePukes know it.
dennis @ 16:
Gee, dee dee, why don’cha fill us in on the missing “context” of McCain’s statements?
At current rates of US military suicides, 120/wk —-
that makes for over 6400 a year suicides of US troops
for a 100 year occupation, is present rates continued, that would top out at
640,000 lives lost just from suicides. Approximately the total casualties for the American Civil War.
Great ad, keep going, stop with all the nice bullshit dems, beat those fuckin repubs at their own game. It is ABOUT time to start this kind of blitz…remember MOST amerkuns get their info in 15 to 30 second ads like this.
And on another note…he is too old, has anger management issues, and was on Hanoi radio. For more info on this check out counterpunch.org
Of course mccain wouldn’t mind being in Iraq another 100 years
If his only other choice is 10-20 here.
Dear DNC folks:
Many of your members - including one who wants to be president - voted in favor of giving this regime unlimited warmaking powers a few years ago, and many of those folks continue to vote time after time to give this regime the money it needs to prolong this war.
Pot, meet frickin’ kettle.
Rusty Shackleford @ 19:
Pottsy? Actually, I’ll give you points for that one.
But please do fill us in. And while you’re at it, check out what Rev. Wright had to say to Bill Moyers:
http://www.streetprophets.com/.....13582/1350 (abbreviate version)
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/jour.....ript1.html (full transcript)
reichwingers say play-nice knowing it’ll play to the Democratic weakness
And then they don’t have to.
Say QuakerDave
Wasn’t Nixon a Quaker too?
ysbaddaden @ 26:
I don’t know if he was really a Quaker, perhaps in name only, but it is known he was a Bohemian Grover.
How would Americans like it if China bombed us to obliteration to get rid of our dictator Bush, and occupied our country for 100 years!
I’ve always heard Nixon was of Quaker descent. I would never classify RMN himself as such.
birdflewover @ 28:
The Bush supporters would be out helping the communists round up dissenters.
Old, likely growing senile, standing in the way of fresh perspectives on this Bush created shitstorm, a crash opportunist and an old, old political animal thru and thru…I offer up (maybe throw up is more like it), John (the republican) McCain… He’ll stay the course, he’ll follow the Bushco gameplan right down to the final letter, dotted i and crossed t, whatever the hell that plan and end game is suppose to be… Yea, that’s the ticket.. Let’s go with that red staters… We don’t have enough shit for our grandchildren to spit on our graves over yet…..
I got another hot flash for all the Clinton/Obama supporters feverishly flinging shit at one another and making threats to not vote dem this coming nov. IF their boy/girl doesn’t make the cut…. IT’S THE REPUBICANS STUPID!!!!! They are the ones looking to clean up and punk you out yet again… They are the ones ruining our nation!!! Got a snarky response?? I don’t want to hear it!!!! IF you idiots fuck around and give this election to the repubs yet again after the last 8 years? You motherfuckers had better go look in a goddamned mirror for someone to blame next december!!!!
Here’s a short mantra to consider, ‘ANYONE BUT A REPUBLICAN DAMMIT!!!!!
A.N.Y.O.N.E. Fuck sake! I wanted Kuch and/or Edwards but you don’t hear me bitching and moaning about how I’ll stay home, or I’ll vote repub in protest, or I’ll take my marbles and go home to pout in my bedroom or any of that shit!
I’m currently backing Obama, but I will vote Clinton if I have to.. I will vote Dem period!!!! Even if I have to hold my nose to do it… I don’t know for sure if or what Hillary or Barach can or will do, but I damned well know what to expect from McCain and it ain’t nothing I want any part of!!! I respectfully suggest anyone with half a brain do the same…vote dem, whomever wins that nomination.. Or is it, that maybe you all want to see McCain get in with all the shit he’s already promised and more unspoken???? Yea? Is that it? Well, good fucking luck with that lamebrained idea……………..
FUCK! This shit isn’t even funny at all, but ya just know Limbaugh and the rest of that ilk are just laughing themselves silly at this rediculous bullshit circular firing squad the dems are in the middle of forming up……………………..ARRRGH!!! JD
the dnc needs to fix the ad
its over 4,000 american dead
and then they need to show pictures of dead iraqi children and note over 100k iraqi’s dead
then show mccain with blood on his hands
then show him trying to compare iraq with korea and japan…and show pics of thriving korea and japan and war torn iraq
oh, and how about running an ad about how we are bringing democracy to people who still practice honor killings
Scalia on 60 minutes now. waiting for the “get over it” comment.
The partisian hacks on these boards are exactly the reason we need Obama for president.
Leslie Stall just kissed Scalia’s ass in the introduction.
Take the gloves off, Dems. Call out the fascists on all of their policies. America needs a change but will Obama (or even Hillary) be able to withstand the ’swiftboating’ onslaught that is sure to come?
Somehow I think “King of the Hill” is more relevant…
McCain says Obama insensitive to the poor
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24341170/
He said that out loud, honest.
“bearded sandal waiving flag burner” Scalia just made this comment. Nasty bastard.
Scalia: “I’m a conservative, I’m a law and order guy”.
Does this mean he will be frog marching Bush and Cheney out of the Oval Office soon?
McCain says Obama insensitive to the poor
This is a great Ad. It has suckered the Republicans into going into to full whining mode. That causes the media to show the clip over and over, and a lot more people get to hear War Monger McCain, in his own words, talking about keeping our Troops in Iraq for a Hundred years.
The latest Gallup National Poll shows that 63% of voters now think that the Invasion of Iraq was a huge mistake. That is the highest number ever rated against any war, including Vietnam. McCain is bucking 63% of the voters when he talks of keeping our Troops, as sitting Ducks, in Iraq for another hundred years.
I hope that the Republicans keep on complaining about the ad, so that the media has to show the clip in all their news shows.
I would post the link, in fact i have tried six times but it will not post.
[Sorry. They all went into the spam filter. I posted one for you-Sitemonitor]
…oops, I thought I was in open thread..
Rusty Shackleford @ 19:
Here ya go, Rusty. The full video, but something tells me you’ve already seen it. I’d hope so, anyway. You don’t strike me as the kind of guy who doesn’t want to get the whole story- truth has a liberal bias and all…
<a href=”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VRAshmSdps”McCain 100 Years in Iraq 1/3/2008 Town hall meeting
<em“Maybe a hundred. We’ve been in South Korea, we’ve been in japan for 60 years. We’ve been in South Korea for 50 years or so. That’d be fine with me as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. Then it’s fine with me, I hope it would be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where Al Queda is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day.”
The section above in bold was edited out of the ad, and clearly changes the meaning of McCain’s response to the questioner. Dishonest, to say the least.
Cheer if you want, but it’s dishonest. Like I said before, the type of thing McCain would denounce.
Did I just hear Scalia say “shit kicker” during family hour? (I’ve got rabbit-ear antenna on the set, so maybe it was just a fade in and out?)
McCain says Obama insensitive to the poor
RE: #46–sorry sitemonitor, wrong thread…
McCain 100 Years in Iraq 1/3/2008 -Town Hall meeting
Dennis,
Without you we would have no dishonest Republicans on C&L to be ashamed of.
fastfeat @ 48:
My fault, I started it!