Join in: Tell Elizabeth Dole To Stop Racist Attack Ads Against Barack Obama
By John Amato Monday Apr 28, 2008 2:00pmThis is a great idea. It appears that the Republican nominee for the presidency---John McImpotent, can do nothing to pull the racist attack ads against Obama in NC:
"The television advertisement you are planning to air degrades our civics and distracts us from the very real differences we have with the Democrats," he wrote. "In the strongest terms, I implore you to not run this advertisement."
As usual the press will praise him for standing up to their Rovian tactics while nothing is done to stop them. So it's up to Liddy Dole to get these pulled. Jane writes:
Who's the most senior member of the NC GOP? Well that would be Liddy Dole. NC Democratic Party Chair Jerry Meek has sent a letter to Dole saying "without a doubt, you could halt this ad with a simple telephone call." Dole is up for re-election this year (and will be running against either Kay Hagen or Blue America candidate Jim Neal).
She can stop the racist attack ads against Obama, and we're asking her to send this letter:
Dear Chairwoman Linda Daves,
I disapprove of the content of the North Carolina Republican Party's recent advertisement "Extreme". I feel that it resorts to a type of negative politicking that betrays the best interest of North Carolinians.
I call on you, as Chairwoman of the North Carolina Republican Party, to immediately stop airing this advertisement. Failure to do so will reflect negatively on all North Carolina Republicans, and would necessitate that I return the Party's contributions to my campaign to disassociate myself from the vitriol which you appear to embrace.
We'll be working with NC bloggers (including Pam Spaulding) to deliver the petition to Dole's office. You can cosign here.
Yes, it's an excellent idea and I'm very happy to be supporting Jim Neal in NC along with the rest of my Blue America colleagues. (Crooks & Liars, Firedoglake, Digby, Down With Tyranny )
If you can throw a few bucks his way while you're at it---that would be very cool. But please cosign if you have the chance.
Appealing to the Republicans better nature; how could it not work. :)
Haven't been to NC since the early 80's but remember seeing two towns with signs saying "Proud Home of the KKK" so I don't know how poorly the ad will reflect on the state. Not saying everyone in the state is that way obviously, but can't imagine it's radically different from the place I experienced back then. More likely the ads will be targeted to the places it will inspire racists to get out the vote.
That said, I'll happily be contributing a few bucks to get the Repubs out of office in the upcoming race. Thanks for the link!
The last time I saw Elizabeth Dole on tv she acted like she had lost her mind. I can't remember what show it was but I believe it was one of the Sunday shows. She was talking and ranting and making no sense whatsoever. I'll sign the letter in a little while but I have scant hope it will make a difference.
"John McImpotent"? Is going all ad hominem on McCain in an article about having the Republicans stop ad hominem attacks meant to be ironic?
pissed off patricia @ 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0a1iYBVOo
Elizebeth Dole truly makes my skin crawl.
Stupid Git @ 2:
I was in passing through that state just a couple of years before you were and I saw that sign too. We, my husband at that time and I, stopped at a place to eat lunch. My husband's hair wasn't really long but it was long. I had my hair in braids. The other people in the restaurant kept giving us such dirty looks that we didn't finish our meal. We left ample money on the table to cover our tab and got the hell out of there. I have never felt like that in a public place before or since.
I hope things are better in NC these many years later.
Asking the Repubs to stop being racists? That would be political genocide to their party. Come on, the modern Republican party was founded on racism after 1964.
Elizabeth Dole is such a dusty old cracker.
harley @ 5:
That's it! Thank you so much, Harley!
She acted like either she was nuts or drunk. How do you ask an irrational person to do a rational thing?
I say keep harping on Wright. This country has a very short attention span. Keep it up and it all just starts pissing people off.
I wonder what Bob's dosage is up to now?
I say let em keep running them. The GOP needs to be memorialized as, among other things, the bigot party.
So, if St. Maverick can't get the North Carolina Republican Party to listen to him, why am I supposed to think that he will be able to "sit the Shiites and the Sunnis down and tell them to stop the bullshit"?
Angry, bigoted old woman is just hostile because ole Bobby doesn't come home until his four hour erection is finished.
A day or so ago the woman who is in that ad was being interviewed via remote by a woman on MSNBC. The woman at MSNBC asked the woman if the ad was intended against Dems running in NC, why did it feature Obama. The lady tried some feeble reason but the MSNBC woman pushed her again and said why not use some material in the ad that addresses the Dems running and not that attacks Obama. The woman looked real blank, cut her eyes to her left and the screen went to green. The woman at MSNBC said they had lost their feed and then she added, "at a very convenient time".
It was very apparent that the lady in the ad was not prepared to talk about realities and did not expect to be penned down with a hard question.
Anyone watching that ad knows exactly what it's about. They can try to make up all sorts of reasons they are running it, but they can't cover up what it is.
WTF? What a jack*ss post! What does Elizabeth have to do with this, and while we're on the topic, how isn't it racist that 90% of african americans vote for Obama, yet Obamaheads like yourself never seem to care about that - and call Bill racist for pointing this out?
If you want others to stop being racist, stop being so yourself!
ah... the Doles, not quite as corrupt as the Bush family..
but still helping to sell out our country....
When the Dubai Ports deal was being pushed through
former Senator Bob "Viagra" Dole helped to represent the Dubai firm
Dole is a special counsel in the Washington office of the law firm Alston & Bird. DP World hired the firm in 2005 to help shepherd its purchase of the British-based firm Peninsular and Oriental, which currently manages the U.S. ports
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Former_Senate_chief_Dole_hired_to_0222.html
pissed off patricia @ 9:
She had the talking point the Administration (orders from head quarters) wanted her to say. When she realized she was going to be challenged on the talking point she was given, but had no examples to back it up she went into attack/stall mode to run out the clock.
She is a tool.
Foo @ 4:
Good question. "Liddy Dole, you're a crusty old cracker and an angry, bitter woman who makes our skin crawl, but we damand you take that racist ad off the air"?
"And don't even think about asking us why we cheer on the DNC's new 100 Years of War ad that shows American service men getting blown to bits."
Left&Left @ 14:
Dole changed her place of residency to North Carolina, in a political move to run for the US Senate. Politics has required her to sacrifice living in the same state as her husband. Her husband is registered to vote and lives in Russell, Kansas, thus he cannot even vote for his wife.
Elizabeth Dole and Barack Obama.
Now there's a dream ticket.
What a c*nt.
Who knew that the name, Elizabeth Dole, was troll bait?
#17: I've never understood why we don't manage our own postr.
pissed off patricia @ 3:
The skank was on Tim Russertt. I to remember that spectacle.
wtf @ 16:
Shillary had the support of blacks initially. Then she & Bill started the shitstorm that continues to haunt the Democratic party and its unending nominatingn process. Contrary to what a lot of people mistakenly think, blacks do not vote as a bloc.
harley @ 20:
Just goes to show that right wing trash can get away with just about anything.
pissed off patricia @ 6:
A similar situation occurred with my then wife and I on a vacation in Florida in the early 90s. We went out for authentic local cuisine, and all we got were dirty looks from everyone around us...I'm sorry to say this...but basically we were surrounded by rednecks. The waitress herself was uneasy, but she served us quickly, never making mention of it but her discomfort with her "other" customers was palpable. We ate, calmly, got our check quickly and left without incident.
It's wrong to stereotype, but boy...those "good ole' boys" were simply living in their own little world.
Left&Left @ 7:
Exactly!!
wtf @ 16:
Spoken like a true racist! Use deflection & try to change the subject. Two words: closet republican
wtf @ 16:
I think the difference here is that voters choose whom they are going to vote for because its their choice to do so. If they happen to like Obama because he has the same skin tone as they do or if they like Clinton because she happens to be the same gender well that is their choice. I do not happen to agree with that method of picking a candidate but as I have said, its their choice. This ad however, will be backed by the NC GOP and broadcast to a wide scope of people and is racially motivated. Even McCain can see that and that is why Liddy Dole needs to be involved. She is the most senior member of the NC GOP.
I THINK it was in NC just 2 years ago -- I was driving down to FL and stopped for breakfast at a Waffle House. I sat at the counter for what felt like an eternity and was completely ignored! That had never happened before and hasn't since. Truly bizarre. And discomforting.
Liberal AND Proud @ 28:
I'm guessing you were somewhere in the panhandle of the state. Am I right?
Joe O. @ 31:
Oh, this is a moderate race baiting ad by the GOP. Geeez...there isn't even a Confederate Flag.
Maybe I need to look closer...I'm sure the words..."The South shall rise agin" are buried in there somewhere.
wtf @ 16:
Most African Americans(like myself) were totally in Hillary's camp until South Carolina...period. Now I understand that arrogant idiots like yourself(and the Clinton's) keep conveniently ignoring this absolute fact, but it's true. We were for Hillary, not because she was the best choice, but because we knew this nation is filled with jerks like you and we were willing to vote against the "best" candidate just to ensure a Republican defeat. Hillary fucked up with the black by opening her big dumb mouth and pissing off black voters. And one more thing...I think Obama the best candidate that the Democratic party has had in years and that is why I am voting for him! You racist think everyone is just as racist as you are. Historically black voters have always voted overwhelmingly for white male candidates, even with black people as one of their choices. Besides bigotry and paranoia, your argument is like a fart in the wind.
pissed off patricia @ 33:
That's a big affirm.
Liberal AND Proud @ 34:
I would say that it goes further than that. This ad appears to be intentionally racial in content. If it caught any sort of response from McCain (as it did) it must be pretty intense or else he would pay no mind to it. I think McCain knows that this could hurt him just as much as anyone else especially in other states.
I just caught a clip of it on CNN but apparently today Obama gave a press conference and drew a deep line in the sand between himself and Rev Wright. From what I got to hear, he sounded disappointed about some of the more unusual things Wright has and is saying. I think below the surface Obama is angry and frustrated with the minister and he's tired of all the bs too.
Let the Republicans run these ads. These ads perfectly represent the core values of the Repubicans: A party that is more concerned about POWER than any other thing regardless of how low they have to stoop. The Democrats should just run ads pointing out how Horrible these ads are and labeling the Republican Party as the Racist Party. Let the Pigs cook themselves.
Liberal AND Proud @ 36:
The panhandle is he home of Katherine Harris support and Joe Scarborough support. Shall I continue? Some parts are a continuation of the old south ideas and habits. That's not to say the entire area is, but a fair amount hang on to antiquated values.
wtf @ 16:
If blacks are voting for Obama soley because he is black then this is racist. BUT, if they are voting for Obama because they believe he will represent their interests better than any other candidate then it is not racist. Show me some proof that they are voting based on race and race alone and I will agree with you. Bring it on. Every race is capable of racism and it is wrong in every case. This fact does not prove your point though. So show me some proof that all or most of the blacks voting for Obama are voting based on race or your point is not a valid one.
Dr. Acula @ 26:
Indeed, Many black folks are getting tired of Obama.
IdahoMoe @ 42:
HUH????????????????
dennis @ 19:
back when he had actual journalism in this country, americans saw their soldiers get blown to bits every night during vietnam. it's called the reality of war, and if we hadn't let the right wing fool us into thinking war was all foo foo bunnyrabbits and sunshine five years ago, we probably could have avoided this whole iraq fiasco in the first place.
yeah, the crusty cracker stuff is probably a bit off, but this is an internet message board, not a paid advertisement. there's a pretty obvious difference, and i think just about any internet message board you find is gonna have a fair amount of lowest-common denominator stuff, right, left, or center.
but you gotta understand, just about everyone is pretty pissed off at the right wing these days. they've literally screwed up every last thing they've attempted since the republicans forced bush on the country eight years ago. their string of failures is simply too long to list. so you'll have to pardon us if we fly off the handle with the language sometimes. the republicans completely ruining america has been kinda tough to watch.
Asking Liddy to pull those ads? Pffffft. Yeah, right. Like that'll happen.
Know why they won't? Because they work, ads like that. Because people are stupid.
Don't believe me? How many listeners do Hannity and Limbaugh have? At least that many.
pissed off patricia @ 38:
Rev. Wright's stubborn ego put Obama in this horrible position and left the Senator with no other choice but to disassociate himself from the reverend.
QuakerDave @ 45:
Rush and Hannitys listeners will hold their noses and vote for McSame. It's the independent voters who will be swayed one way or the other by these type of ads. And any thinking person will see the racism dripping from this one.
pissed off patricia @ 40:
Try driving through Vidor, Texas and Orange, Texas. Now there's some scary sh*t! I'm white with a short haircut and I won't stop in either place...
Left&Left @ 46:
So he disowned the man he could no sooner disown than if he disowned the entire black community?
Better to contribute to defeat McCain. Liddy is useless to try and convince.
http://democrats.org/page/contribute/FundIraqAd?source=NETA766
Help convince the stupid people where they should vote.
Let them spend their money pandering to the bigots. They're all going to vote for McCain anyway. It might just help get the non-bigot vote out too.
It also seems that discussion on racism has gone in a strange direction lately. If you point out racism, you are judged as being racist yourself (reverse racist?). This makes it hard to make objective criticism. It's subtle, but it helps muddy the water and deter discussion. A case in point would be Rev. Wrights sermons, maybe Bill Clinton's comments too.
Left&Left @ 46:
you know, i kept trying to like wright but when he wouldn't disassociate himself from farrakhan and he's saying things like, oh, obama's just distancing himself from me because he's a politician -- it's like wright's deliberately trying to sabotage obama. it's very strange.
IdahoMoe @ 42:
Indeed, many black, white, asians etc. dems, independents are tired of the Clintons ie Clinton fatigue!
Heard a couple mos. ago many folk who are running HRC's campaign wish they were working for Obama instead.
... as this thread continues to go wayyy O/T :)
mike @ 52:
Have to agree, Mike. That spectacle yesterday turned me off of him. He was acting too much like an entertainer instead of a preacher.
Doesn't Elizabeth Dole have some more Red Cross finances to screw up ?
dennis @ 49:
Where did Obama say the word "disown". If you skip your meds again Dennis, I'm calling your probation officer. You Repubs got nothing except issueless, trivial sniping. Don't take the ass whipping in the fall personal. Obama '08
Chico Hussein @ 55:
No. She sucked all the blood she could out of that carcass.
She covered her tracks and ran away before they dug too deep.
dennis @ 49:
Be honest for once Dennis, no matter what Obama would have done you would troll here with constantly pointless pathetic negativity.
Racism is the only potent weapon the Republicans have in this election. Substantively, McCain is a nothing - no ideas, no principles, no solutions. He's a pathetic candidate. But he's a white man with a traditionally presidential-sounding name, and America is an astoundingly racist country. That's why the Republicans will be appealing to white fear throughout this election - as they are doing with this ad.
Was at a Jim Neal event in Chapel Hill this past Sunday... he had me at hello.
He has my primary vote and support for stepping up to the plate so Dole would not run unopposed (and for standing up to "Bull dog" Carville).
Left&Left @ 46:
His speech came straight from the heart. He tried to stand by his friend and minister but Rev Wright wouldn't leave it alone. He allowed his ego to damage Obama and I think at this point Obama was hurt and angry. He said as much today. This decision did not come easily for Obama. But Rev Wright and his actions yesterday during the Q&A part at the Press Club were, in Obama's words, " a caricature of himself".
harley @ 5:
Wow, that bitch just doesn't shut up! She needs to be voted out of office, immediately.
Left&Left @ 56:
Trivial sniping? Right, L&L.
Suddenly on this blog everyone's had a complete transformation. It really wasn't all that long ago that Bush's relationship with the religious right was a major topic of discussion and a huge concern for all of America. Now any questions about Obama's 20 year relationship with his nuttier than fruitcake and radical pastor is trivial sniping and beyond reasonable curiosity.
dennis @ 63:
Obama has publicly disavowed his pastor's statements.
Perhaps you can direct us to where Bush publicly disavowed anything from the Religious Right.
Where can i actually see this ad?
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Rusty Shackleford @ 64:
That's because he's a closet Muslim.
Rusty Shackleford @ 64:
Rusty- Fair enough. Obama is doing this, though, because he's been forced to.
How about you show me where Bush's closest pastor announced to the world that he was coming after him when he (Bush) took office.
emphasa @ 67:
Well, duh.
dennis @ 68:
No offense, but what are you talking about?
It's Obama's scalp they want. That's the real prize. This is a turf war. The big-wigs are defending their fiefdom from interlopers. They're even rolling out the heavy artillery expecting a full-blown conflagration. The election season is shaping up to be a real donnybrook. Better buckle up. Obama has entered the crosshairs of America's criminal oligarchy and things are bound to get nasty.
ronald @ 66:
Amazing...the most ridiculous, bizarre, factless, load of B.S. that I have ever read at C&L. Aahahahahahahahaha!!! Obama '08
Rusty Shackleford @ 70:
“I said to Barack Obama last year, ‘If you get elected, November the 5th I'm coming after you, because you'll be representing a government whose policies grind under people,’ Wright said.
Left&Left @ 72:
Seriously. It seems like we're getting more wacko posts lately.
dennis @ 73:
So... what? You're worried that the Secret Service won't be able to protect Obama?
I still don't see what that has to do with Bush/McCain's kowtowing to the Religious Right extremists, like Hagee, who blamed Katrina on homosexuals, or Robertson/Falwell, who said Americans brought 9/11 on themselves.
Elizabeth Dole will do nothing to affect the current elections
When she's so happy and relieved her husband's on Viagra.
#48 Bud Says: Try driving through Vidor, Texas and Orange, Texas. Now there’s some scary sh*t! I’m white with a short haircut and I won’t stop in either place…
I remember those days. We used to live in Beaumont, TX and would have to drive through Vidor and Orange to get into Louisiana. Man I hated living in Texas.
Rusty Shackleford @ 75:
No, Rusty. Not 'coming after him' as in an act of violence, 'coming after him' as in his influence.
Words fail as to how all of a sudden that is of no concern to people here. You've been around for a while here. Look on the left border of this page- 385 threads on religion and the Religious Right. Not one yet on Rev. Wright and his relationship to Obama.
TimeForLeadership @ 39:
I like it! Just stand back, and let them have the spotlight.
I personally don't care about anyone's association with the religious right. They are all a bunch of batshit crazy people IMO.
Judging people based on what someone else said is crap. I'm not judging McCranky on his connections and sought after endorsement from Hagee any more than I am judging Obama on his association with Wright.
dennis @ 78:
Hmmm. Yet Obama disavowed the pastor's controversial words. Connect the dots for me, d - what exactly are you afraid of?
Left&Left @ 58:
But it's the republican way! Don't offer anything of substance to fix the problems YOU (republican's) have created, just attack others for having the audacity to point them out.
Has John McCain renounced and denounce the Indiana GOP House Representative nominee who attended a birthday party for HITLER? http://www.nwitimes.com/articles/2008/04/23/news/top_news/docf6a35b9d5a7...
Will you all follow me in sending a cascade of blue pills McSame-ward? I think it might tick him off a bit. I kinda admit I wouldn't mind having a beer with him. And I do like BBQ. But with Barack I would share the good stuff. Wine, or single-malt Scotch, mind you, not the Dutch Cleanser.
Can someone tell me why this ad is racist? Try and swallow the "well, it's so obvious, if I have to explain it, you won't get it" response and really answer the question.
I think it's a bad ad, but for other reasons-- it does a really lame job of if a=b and b=c then a=c. It's a stretch because it plays 7 Degrees of Separation with Wright, Obama and the NC politicians.
But I don't get the racism angle. Is ithe word "extreme?"