Don Siegelman sat down with Air America’s Thom Hartmann yesterday and made very specific allegations of election fraud against Karl Rove and the Bush administration not covered in his interview on 60 Minutes. (h/t S for audio)
[Thom Hartmann]: Right. Now, in our conversation you have suggested that the original election that you lost to Bob Riley by a few thousand votes in the middle of the night may have been stolen. That is a part of the story that has been treated as if it was radioactive by the corporate press. It has, to the best of my knowledge, I have never heard that in any of the official corporate news reports. Have you asserted that before, have you been saying this all along, or is this…
[Don Siegelman]: Well yes, we have been saying it, we have been saying it since the night of the election. I mean, we won the election, the votes were counted and were declared and then in one county which is controlled by Republicans the, after midnight when everybody went home, when the poll workers were sent home, when the media was gone, they decided to electronically recount these votes and shifted the votes and certified the vote illegally the next day. The, interestingly, Karl Rove’s client sepped in, the attorney general stepped in and said, ‘if anybody tries to hand count these votes we’re going to put them in jail’. We initially had a green light from the local Republicans in this one area that we could come in and hand count these ballots where the electronic shift occurred.[..]
[Don Siegelman]: And there’s a new book out by Mark Crispin Miller, New York college professor called “Loser Take All”.
[Thom Hartmann]: Yes.
[Don Siegelman]: There are two articles in there, one by Larisa Alexandrova who writes for Raw Story and a professor from Auburn University both of which point to the, actually go into the fact that it’s a mathematical impossibility for the election not to have been stolen.
[Thom Hartmann]: Right, and Larisa has been on this show a number of times, she’s a friend, and Mark Crispin Miller is a dear old friend who actually has wwritten a foreword to one of my books and we’ve discussed that book and that case with him, so my listeners are quite familiar with that, but it certainly bears re-mentioning, absolutely.
[Don Siegelman]: And one other point, we talked about the recount that we had requested, we wanted to hand count the votes, but it was stopped by Karl Rove’s client who was then the Attorney General, but also it should be noted that it was Karl Rove’s client, then Attorney General, who began the state investigation just a few days after I did a fly around with Al Gore being the first Democrat, first governor to endorse Al Gore in his election back in ‘99.
[Thom Hartmann]: Hmmm. So, I mean this sounds, I mean this just stinks to high heaven. Just this huge, well not huge, but very clear Republican conspiracy to rig an election. Everybody, all the Republicans are always talking about election, about voter fraud, you know, ‘holy cow, we can’t have people without ID!’ You know, like my mother, who’s pushing 80 and doesn’t have a driver’s license. She can’t vote now, with this court decision yesterday.
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Is anyone suprized? The majority of americans are blissfully ignorant and they like it that way.
why wasn’t it “covered on 60 minutes” thats the damn question that should be asked!!!!!!!
Short attention spams this nation of American Idle watchers.
OK. Bush and company are guilty of crimes. So, who is going to arrest them? The FBI, an organazation started by a cross-dressing, junkie repressive? The Federal Courts, who have been staffed by Republicans since Nixon? Where do we go for redress? Who will stop these criminals? Our police are too busy with pot smokers. Why hasn’t the military revolted? Whose side are the police on? What about the 30% who still think Bush is cool? That adds up to over 100 MILLION fucking nazis already in this country? They don’t give a rat’s fuck about what we say on our precious little blogs and comment threads. We are fucked no matter who wins this election. More of the same all around. Obama isn’t any better than Clinton and neither is going to be significantly different than anything since Reagan. Bill, to me, was just another Republican, even if he was a better administrator. Hillary will be no better. Obama just runs for office, over and over, each election being just a stepping stone to the next. He certainly isn’t a progressive. Neither is Clinton. I just don’t know how this is going to play out, but it won’t be good.
We should immediately stop lecturing the rest of the world on democracy and on the importance of holding free and fair elections. Maybe those international monitors we routinely send to the so-called 3rd world countries should focus their attention here in the U.S. where they’re most needed.
Mislead the People, Mislead the Sheeple
Mind-boggling. They stole the presidency in 2000, then they figured, “Well, now we have control of the executive branch, we can do whatever the fuck we want.”
Let’s hope that as in the Greek tragedies, hubris is their downfall.
Republican = organized crime. Will somebody prosecute these useless scum-sucking bastards? Of course not. We can’t even impeach war criminals and traitors. As bad as these people are, the Dem leadership is worse for doing N O T H I N G. They are both traitors and cowards.
Great story, C&L. Thanks for posting it.
Naomi wolf cites 10 ways the fascists abuse power!!
This hits 1,6,7,8,9,10!!!!
There will not be an election, martial law will be declared after a false flag attack. Why else is Bush so happy lately? He knows something bad is coming and he can hardly wait…
“…and made very specific allegations of election fraud against Karl Rove and the Bush administration not covered in his interview on 60 Minutes”
one of the reasons he was imprisoned… I hope he starts the move to put these criminals behind bars. WTF?! We knew this (mis)Administration was bad, but we’re gonna find out a whole bunch more about just how bad they really are…
Meanwhile The Turd skips on Fox headquarters, knowing that we can’t do nothing, unless we go “Louis XVI: with him and the like.
[Deleted. Free ride’s over Joe-Sitemonitor]
In this video, I take
how long does it take to get it in your heads……….
bush/cheney and the entire gop are getting a free
pass with the press. the entire bushco is criminal.
Isn’t it just stupid Amreicans to bring a worthless vote to a gunfight.
Don Siegelman spends all his time blaming Karl Rove for his troubles. He never takes responsibility for his crimes nor does he address the specific charges and the weight of evidence on which he was convicted. Siegelman was represented in open court by the best defense team money can buy. A jury of his peers heard the evidence and unanimously affirmed his guilt. Alabama newspapers meticulously chronicled Siegelman’s extensive trail of corruption throughout his tenure as governor.
http://www.thetruthaboutdon.com/
dadams @ 15:
Those kinds of people have always gotten a free ride from the media. I’m a history major. This country has a shitty history. It’s kind of a unique time in our university system. The country is undergoing such a massive trainwreck that all the university professors are spilling the beans to their students. Karl Rove and Bush are producing a whole generation of teachers that are going to spend the next 30 to 40 years subverting Corporate America and their lacky politicians.
It can’t happen here, It can’t happen here, Iam telling you my dear that it can’t happen here.(Zappa) This could be any one of us, any of our family, one of our kids. How much more will we take of the rule of no law we now have in this country? I have never in my life seen a group of criminals with such a huge pair of brass balls! You could fill a large book with a list of crimes these rats have pulled off that we know about, and anyones guess as to how many books could be filled with things we don’t know about.(yet) How much more will our citizens take before we march on Washington with handcuffs in hand and take back our United States of America?
drago @ 17:
It’s interesting you post a link to the office responsible for prosecuting Siegelman. The reason he is out on appeal is because of the irregularities in the case.
All those involved with stealing the election should be convicted of treason and executed.
to ron @20 your right Ron,they put up that same crap post the last time C&L posted story on Don Siegelman. ceo
drago @ 17:
OK — so would you care to explain how thousands of votes, found in the middle of the night after all the journalists and Democrats had gone home… that LO! and BEHOLD! suddenly appear on Republican-controlled voting machines are NOT corruption? Especially since *EVERY OTHER RACE* on the entire voting platform was completely unchanged in their numbers, either way? Only the gubernatorial race had its numbers changed.
But of course, nobody seems to have an explanation for that. Whether Siegelman is guilty or not, I want *answers* to the 2002 “election” of Bob Riley. I want to know why votes were illegally flipped to Riley while no objective authority was there to monitor it. I want to know why the state AG threatened prosecution of anyone who attempted to recount the election. I want to know why the prosecutors in question were all affiliated with the state Republican election committees.
Sorry, but if Siegelman is guilty of bribery because he re-appointed someone on a non-paying advisory board on which the man had sat on for years and done a fine job… and the same man just happened to make a campaign contribution to the state lottery PAC (which Rove & Abramoff were working hard to get rid of)… then where’s the crime? By these same standards, our prisons should be overflowing with politicians from every city, state, and Federal level.
This is abuse of power, plain and simple, in an attempt to cover up a stolen election.
Excellent. So congress will be looking into this and bring those on the wrong side of the law to justice! oh… nevermind…
Thanks for posting some Thom Hartmann audio.
They removed the hard drives and crushed them? From which computers??? The ones in the White House, or the ones at the RNC? Does anybody know the answer?
Andotech @ 24:
Hip hip hurray!
Aw shucks.
Marc @ 3:
There is no news media in the United States. I’m pretty sure that if you could bring Thomas Jefferson back to life, he’d be applying to become a British citizen again!
The so-called news media spends 2 minutes talking about Miley Cyrus’s under-aged cheesecake photo, ONE minute about a Supreme Court ruling that will exclude millions of Americans from voting, and ZERO minutes talking about a stolen election which turns all the rest of the Americans’ voting activities into a meaningless facade.
eMikey @ 16:
I think the quote you’re looking for is (done with a scottish accent): “Isn’t that just like a stupid Democrat? Brings a non-enforceable subpoena to a gunfight.”
Siegelman apologists will hopefully have the journalistic integrity to read the dozens of originally sourced Alabama newspaper articles which investigate and uncover the rampant criminal corruption of Don Siegelman while he was Governor of Alabama.
http://www.thetruthaboutdon.com/page1.htm
drago @ 30:
Yeah, since I don’t live there and have not been there to follow the story and parts of the stories seem to be false I should go back and try to determin who’s telling the truth. Then I should believe everything that I read in the newspaper. If you would let me know which page the horosopes are on I’ll probably believe that first. Of course we all read that Iraq had WMDs too.
ROVE PERP WALK IN 09………YEAH, NO EXEC PRIVILEDGE.
At least there are still Siegelman papers available for anyone to review. The same cannot be said of Rove et al. Everything has been obfuscated, hidden, deleted, shredded, burned or otherwise destroyed.
What’s ironic about Siegelman is that while this was so clearly a political prosecution, he’s not super-squeaky clean. Yet due to the circumstances surrounding his prosecution, he’s become a genuine progressive hero.
-AF
Andrew Sullivan Is A Fraud
What’s odd is why did they, after ‘defeating’ Siegelman in the election, not just leave it at that? why then go after him, several times until they had a conviction, and not just be happy they got their guy, Gov Riley, in the governors mansion? And really what the hell was it about Don Siegelman did they not like in Alabama that they would go to such lengths? Of all the Democrats Rove could pick to ‘take care of’ in some way, by ruining him, why this guy? What did he ever do them? Yes, it’s because he had the ‘audacity’ to be governor, and run for re-election, in a very southern, very red, state like Alabama. they really are strange people, those Republicans in that state. clearly some of the most corrupt and unreasonable folks one could ever meet.
Will the Supreme Court decision throw the Democratic primary in Indiana, giving Clinton a bigger lead?
Can we petition the UN to come and monitor our elections?
TreadingWater @ 37:
We need a law that allows for UN monitoring cause the republicans will not allow it.
Widespread @ 7:
As the French aristocracy learned over 200 years ago, the higher you put yourself, the farther you have to fall. And ugh, it can get bloody at the bottom. The problem with it getting that bad is that once the so-called rulers of the land have no perceived authority, there is no law and there is no civilization.
I sincerely hope our political system is healthy enough to get us over this illness without requiring a blood transfusion.
Leslie [Bitter Elitist Hussein] @ 36:
What lead, Leslie? She’s not ahead in anything except interviews with Bill O’Reilly.
calgarylady @ 33:
No digital information is ever truly deleted. Rove and the Republicans are too stupid to know this, but once data exists in the digital world, it exists forever. If it was ever sent to someone it exists out there somewhere. It’s just a matter of finding it.
And once it’s found, they’re fucked.
Remember the 1970’s??
Let’s drive 55 again!!
Driving 55 saved million of barrels of oil!!