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POLL: Bush more problematic for McCain than Wright is for Obama

It’s pretty amazing when a sitting President and your ties to his failed policies are the number one liability to your run for the Oval Office. Despite any real attempt to define McCain as Bush44, the public already sees the connection loud and clear. I’ve seen conservative after conservative go on TV today to talk about how mavericky John McCain really is. Nonsense. On the two most important issues this country faces — Iraq and the economy — John McCain is on the same exact page as George W. Bush.

MSNBC:

Sen. Barack Obama’s ties to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright could hurt his presidential hopes. So could his comment about “bitter” small-town America clinging to guns and religion. And Americans might question Sen. Hillary Clinton’s honesty and trustworthiness.

But according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, the bigger problem appears to be John McCain’s ties to President Bush.

In the survey, 43 percent of registered voters say they have major concerns that McCain is too closely aligned with the current administration.

Wow.




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fastfeat Says:

If the stink fits…

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blue Says:

The CORPORATE/ REPIGLCIAN/GOVERNMENT ‘MEDIA’ = MAFIA is a criminal enterprise that should be CHARGED, TRIED, AND CONVICTED FOR criminal/ purposeful, fraud committed against the American People.

3
ThunderMonkey Says:

Can someone explain to me how Obama is more out of touch than Clinton or McCain? Maybe I’m just too stupid to see it.

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P.D. Says:

If you watch the MSM you would think Mccain has a shot in November. Instead of talking about the real problems facing this country, they are focusing on Wright and a bunch of bullshit. All the investigations, the criminality of the White House, Rove, and all the Bush henchmen are all insignifigent to MSM. I hope Americans are much smarter this election year. The future of this country depends on it.

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Left&Left Says:

And those numbers WILL get worse for McWar. I’m sure most third graders wouldn’t want to be associated with Bush. McFraud had to have made some deals with this criminal administration.

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blue Says:

because the ‘media’ has convinced people that he is …

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lj Says:

Nice visual! The more points made by using charts etc. the more effective the message. Most people are visual learners—just think about all those conservative comic book readers!

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MargeAggedon Says:

Nice. Keep putting the ol’ rev up there like it means something. Hey three card monte anyone? There’s nothing under any of these empty jars, you’re never going to win but you can play as looooong as you like!

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roooth Says:

MSNBC really needs to get it’s head out of it’s butt on this. NOBODY outside of Faux News, Timmuh or Tweety’s inner circle gives a flying rat’s patootie about Wright’s positions. Or, to be more accurate, we aren’t fooled by their lame protestations about Wright when they spend the rest of their time sucking up to white right-winger nut jobs posing as preachers - like Pat Robertson, Falwell, Hagee, and Tweety’s favorite: Catholic hate-monger freak Donohoe.

I mean, get real; Pat Buchanan writes a John Birch style racist hate-rant calling blacks all kinds of derogatory racial epithets and he’s still on MSNBC 24/7, but Arrianna Huffington gets banned cause she steps on Timmuh’s pwecious toes??? And I should care about Wright? Puhleeze.

MSNBC apparently has no idea how this makes them increasingly more irrelevant. The more they try to conspicuously direct the news in spite of their obvious bullshit bias, the more irrelevant they become.

Old men yelling at clouds, indeed.

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theWalrus Says:

We are going to see McCain throw Bush under the bus as time goes by. It’s already beginning with the “Mission Accomplished” fiasco. McCain’s people know they have to distance themselves from Bush. It’s our job to keep McCain & Bush and Bush policies tied to the hip from now until November.

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P.D. Says:

MSNBC is a joke, without Oberman they are nothing. I have already gave up on them. Who cares what Andrea Micthell or Nora ODonnal think? And Buchannan? What a joke! Add Tucker and you have a news channel that is irrelavent.

12
Chico Hussein Says:

Apparently America thinks George W. Bush is the worst disaster in the history of this country and anyone associated with him is TOAST.

gee, I wonder why.

13
Chico Hussein Says:

theWalrus @ 10:

We are going to see McCain throw Bush under the bus as time goes by. It’s already beginning with the “Mission Accomplished” fiasco. McCain’s people know they have to distance themselves from Bush. It’s our job to keep McCain & Bush and Bush policies tied to the hip from now until November.

Today, McSame was DEFENDING Bush on ‘Mission Accomplished’, claiming Bush should not take the blame.

Chalk up yet another nail on McSame’s coffin.

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roooth Says:

P.D. @ 11:

MSNBC is a joke, without Oberman they are nothing. I have already gave up on them. Who cares what Andrea Micthell or Nora ODonnal think? And Buchannan? What a joke! Add Tucker and you have a news channel that is irrelavent.

Yup.

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SuburbanGrrrl Says:

theWalrus @ 10:

We are going to see McCain throw Bush under the bus as time goes by. It’s already beginning with the “Mission Accomplished” fiasco. McCain’s people know they have to distance themselves from Bush. It’s our job to keep McCain & Bush and Bush policies tied to the hip from now until November.

It will be much harder for McCain to distance himself from Bush than it was for Obama to distance himself from Wright. I’m mean there’s been a lovefest for 8 years going on. Plus that great hug picture.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

When are people going to see these msm polls things are meaningless crap.

According to these type of polls Kerry was going to whip Bush back in 04.

Beam me up Scotty!

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P.D. Says:

The fact is MSM is to blame for this disasterous President. They rolled over for him at every turn. From the WMDs to the silence on the many investigations. Add a indifferent public and your bound to have a government in complete failure. The Amercan people themselves are selfish, indulgent and lazy. We have been brought up to believe we are the best, and to hell with everyone else. We are paying for oue own arrogance. It’s sad really.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

NBC News/Wall Street Journal?

Murdoch is teaming with NBC now?

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P.D. Says:

LA, Murdoch wont be satified until he is the Supreme Ruler and we are his serfs.

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The Truth Hurts Says:

No surprise…Chimpy is a much bigger scumbag than Wright. And unlike Chimpy, Wright actually served his country in the Marines.

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henry wallace Says:

If we don’t go there..flip flop..social sec..torture ok now..repeal gas tax..tax cuts for rich perm.. etc etc..McInsane being exactly like Bush/Chaney on war and war profiteering alone would do it for me. McBush/McCrazy/McChaney/McHillary..peas in da pod.

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theWalrus Says:

SuburbanGrrrl @ 15:

theWalrus @ 10:

We are going to see McCain throw Bush under the bus as time goes by. It’s already beginning with the “Mission Accomplished” fiasco. McCain’s people know they have to distance themselves from Bush. It’s our job to keep McCain & Bush and Bush policies tied to the hip from now until November.

It will be much harder for McCain to distance himself from Bush than it was for Obama to distance himself from Wright. I’m mean there’s been a lovefest for 8 years going on. Plus that great hug picture.

I want to believe that it will be IMPOSSIBLE for McCain to distance himself from Bush, but the Rightwingers are masters of spin, deception and disinformation. Coupled with the ignorance (stupidity?) of a large portion of the populace…I worry.

23
enor Says:

McCain with low numbers? Order another invasion somewhere.. that will fix it.

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eastriver Says:

McBush, McBush, McBush.

That’s how we all need to start referring to Johnny Mac, on paper and in person, from how until November.

McBush, McBush, McBush.

Tie McCain linguistically to Dubya for now and forever.

Make bumper sticker, T-shirts, poems, billboards; M-C-B-U-S-H.

Preach it, brothers and sisters.

Let the hills ring with “McBush.”

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L.A. Confidential Says:

P.D. @ 19:

LA, Murdoch wont be satified until he is the Supreme Ruler and we are his serfs.

P.D. I’m going to have to TUNE OUT at some point soon just to retain my sanity (focus on reality).

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The Spaniard Says:

Nothing to worry about.

That same 32% is in all likelihood the same 32% who thinks George Bush is doing a double-plus good job.

They were lost causes anyway.

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Darrell Kern Says:

ThunderMonkey @ 3:

Can someone explain to me how Obama is more out of touch than Clinton or McCain? Maybe I’m just too stupid to see it.

ThunderMonkey,

You are not stupid- however, anyone who can explain your question, is stupid. Expect lots of explanation because there are lots of stupid people.

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henry wallace Says:

eastriver @ 24:

McBush, McBush, McBush.

That’s how we all need to start referring to Johnny Mac, on paper and in person, from how until November.

McBush, McBush, McBush.

Tie McCain linguistically to Dubya for now and forever.

Make bumper sticker, T-shirts, poems, billboards; M-C-B-U-S-H.

Preach it, brothers and sisters.

Let the hills ring with “McBush.”

McBush McBush McBush….the real 27%. are we there yet??

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Chico Hussein Says:

theWalrus @ 22:

SuburbanGrrrl @ 15:

theWalrus @ 10:

We are going to see McCain throw Bush under the bus as time goes by. It’s already beginning with the “Mission Accomplished” fiasco. McCain’s people know they have to distance themselves from Bush. It’s our job to keep McCain & Bush and Bush policies tied to the hip from now until November.

It will be much harder for McCain to distance himself from Bush than it was for Obama to distance himself from Wright. I’m mean there’s been a lovefest for 8 years going on. Plus that great hug picture.

I want to believe that it will be IMPOSSIBLE for McCain to distance himself from Bush, but the Rightwingers are masters of spin, deception and disinformation. Coupled with the ignorance (stupidity?) of a large portion of the populace…I worry.

Couldn’t agree more.

But remember that Bush’s failures have been so gargantuan, so destructive to this country, the world and humanity, that even the spin meisters in the GOP cannot overcome it. …… we hope.

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Dr. Acula Says:

P.D. @ 4:

If you watch the MSM you would think Mccain has a shot in November. Instead of talking about the real problems facing this country, they are focusing on Wright and a bunch of bullshit. All the investigations, the criminality of the White House, Rove, and all the Bush henchmen are all insignifigent to MSM. I hope Americans are much smarter this election year. The future of this country depends on it.

Fucking Rove. I heard on Morning Jo(k)e this morning that Turdblossom is the most influential member of the media or some such shit. Guess who’s #2? C’mon, I’m waiting….

Okay, it’s Tweety!

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Chico Hussein Says:

enor @ 23:

McCain with low numbers? Order another invasion somewhere.. that will fix it.

Fool us once……..

You cant get fooled again !

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theWalrus Says:

Thanks, eastriver. From now on I will always refer to him as John McBush.

33
Samson- Says:

more bullshit polls from the msm.

the msm spends all of its time discussing the polls that are only a reflection of the MSM’s skewed, distorted, and insulting coverage.

this means nothing.

the msm-poll-msm circuit is liks a snake eating itself. the msm creates a narrative, broadcasts it relentlessly, then the poll numbers reflect that inane issue, which then the msm has to discuss.

we are *baaaa* sheep

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Chico Hussein Says:

theWalrus @ 32:

Thanks, eastriver. From now on I will always refer to him as John McBush.

John W. McBush

35
P.D. Says:

LA, I suggest gardening. After Katria hit and as I watched on MSM how we left those poor people stranded, I turned off my television and tended the garden. But I’ll never forget those images as long as I live. I have never forgiven out government for that, and I never will.

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theWalrus Says:

Chico Hussein @ 31:

enor @ 23:

McCain with low numbers? Order another invasion somewhere.. that will fix it.

Fool us once……..

You cant get fooled again !

I predict an Orange Alert around two weeks before the election. Those people will stop at nothing to retain power.

37
Bobby Says:

t’s pretty amazing when a sitting President and your ties to his failed policies are the number one liability to your run for the Oval Office.

Hardly a surprise at this point. In 2004 the platform for Texas Republicans was merely “I’m a George Bush Republican”. By the 2006 elections none of them were saying that anymore. And public opinion has shifted even further since then.

If he was a liability in Texas two years ago, he can hardly be an asset nationally now.

In the survey, 43 percent of registered voters say they have major concerns that McCain is too closely aligned with the current administration.

Of course, for that and all the other numbers in the poll, you have to subtract 25%-30% to get a meaningful number, since that many will be simply expressing the predictable views of their political loyalties.

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P.D. Says:

Dr. Acula, Rove is a political genuis in the pundits and his own mind. People like us know him for what he is, A immoral, right-wing neocon dirtbag. And I’m being generous.

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Bobby Says:

P.D. @ 4:

If you watch the MSM you would think Mccain has a shot in November. Instead of talking about the real problems facing this country, they are focusing on Wright and a bunch of bullshit. All the investigations, the criminality of the White House, Rove, and all the Bush henchmen are all insignifigent to MSM. I hope Americans are much smarter this election year. The future of this country depends on it.

Of course, he does have a shot in November, because the MSM is going to do whatever it can to shoot down the best Democratic candidate during the primaries, to make it easier to shoot the survivor down during the general elections.

P.D. @ 17:

The fact is MSM is to blame for this disasterous President. They rolled over for him at every turn. From the WMDs to the silence on the many investigations. Add a indifferent public and your bound to have a government in complete failure. The Amercan people themselves are selfish, indulgent and lazy. We have been brought up to believe we are the best, and to hell with everyone else. We are paying for oue own arrogance. It’s sad really.

The thing is, the MSM is not us - it is corporate America, and THEY are in bed with this disastrous president. We have all been duped into thinking we live in an open society.

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theWalrus Says:

Chico Hussein @ 34:

theWalrus @ 32:

Thanks, eastriver. From now on I will always refer to him as John McBush.

John W. McBush

or John Sidney McBush, the Turd.

42
enor Says:

Chico Hussein @ 31:

enor @ 23:

McCain with low numbers? Order another invasion somewhere.. that will fix it.

Fool us once……..

You can’t get fooled again !

Maybe not ‘us’, but easily the 50 some million that will respond to the ‘new threat’ and hurry to vote for McCain to protect us.

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Leaveus Says:

L.A. Confidential @ 16:

When are people going to see these msm polls things are meaningless crap.

According to these type of polls Kerry was going to whip Bush back in 04.

Beam me up Scotty!

Surley we can agree that the mass media is either broken or working for the other side. We can agree that FOX is not news and that the Rev Wright is irelivant.
Just as we can all agree that Mcain has a snow balls chance in hell of getting elected.

These things are absolute truths (like global warming) - So when will be the time we can move beyound this simple truth that 1+1=2?

It is getting to the point that distraction, lies and false information is just about ALL THERE IS on the corperate media - But the problems we face persists even as we continue to beat a very, very dead horse.
The media is no help to us.
The election is little or no real help to us.

But still we face many disasters which are eminent, but we discuss fox/msn discussing Rev Wright…

I am confused…How id this going to help us again?

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RayC Says:

Don’t underestimate the power of the corporate media to effect public opinion. How many people still believe that Al Gore said he invented the Internet? How many people believe that Bush is just regular guy from Texas?How many people believe that John Kerry faked his war service and flip-flops his opinion on everything? How many people believe that John Edwards isn’t really for the working poor people because he is all the time going out and getting $200 hair cuts? The media will keep pounding on things no matter what the facts are and sooner or later more than half of the American voters will think there must be something to it.

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jt Says:

I don’t think too much should be read into polls, but this one is pretty interesting in format

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L.A. Confidential Says:

P.D. @ 35:

LA, I suggest gardening. After Katria hit and as I watched on MSM how we left those poor people stranded, I turned off my television and tended the garden. But I’ll never forget those images as long as I live. I have never forgiven out government for that, and I never will.

I suggest fasting. I can go on one meal a day for a long time.

47
nimrod Says:

Those percentages add up to a kludge, not 100%.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

RayC @ 44:

Don’t underestimate the power of the corporate media to effect public opinion. The media will keep pounding on things no matter what the facts are and sooner or later more than half of the American voters will think there must be something to it.

You mean The War Party. The corporate media-media is just one of their tentacles anymore.

49
P.D. Says:

My God, MSNBC is going off the deep end. This constant campaign coverage is getting insane. I think i’ll put my head in the oven, because I can’t take it anymore.

50
MargeAggedon Says:

Chico Hussein @ 31:

enor @ 23:

McCain with low numbers? Order another invasion somewhere.. that will fix it.

Fool us once……..

You cant get fooled again !

Who have they got to fool? They’ll either steal the election outright with the help of diebold or simply get their judges to hand it to mcstain afterward. And everyone will spend the next 8 years arguing about it while they continue to ram it to ya. Although I sincerely doubt things will stay a float for 8 more years.

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theWalrus Says:

Just as we can all agree that Mcain has a snow balls chance in hell of getting elected.

I felt that way about Bush in 2004. And look what happened. Rove took Kerry’s strength (war vet) and turned it into a liability. They will do the same to Obama and they will play the race card and the fear card.

52
fastfeat Says:

eastriver @ 24:

McBush, McBush, McBush.

That’s how we all need to start referring to Johnny Mac, on paper and in person, from how until November.

McBush, McBush, McBush.

Tie McCain linguistically to Dubya for now and forever.

Make bumper sticker, T-shirts, poems, billboards; M-C-B-U-S-H.

Preach it, brothers and sisters.

Let the hills ring with “McBush.”

About as elegantly simple as it gets, though still too complex for the 28%’ers to grasp.

53
L.A. Confidential Says:

Exxon Mobil 1Q profit up 17 pct

“In an environment of high commodity prices, Exxon Mobil’s outstanding portfolio of integrated businesses performed well, allowing us to deliver record first-quarter results,” Henry Hubble, the company’s vice president of investor relations, said on a conference call.

-_-

54
Liberal AND Proud Says:

We warned McCain not to put his lips there…but he wouldn’t listen.

Now he’s “stuck”.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

P.D. @ 49:

My God, MSNBC is going off the deep end. This constant campaign coverage is getting insane. I think i’ll put my head in the oven, because I can’t take it anymore.

Don’t do that. Take a break from TV-Internet and let the mental pollution “air out”.

Think I will right now myself.

56
Dr. Hussein Matt Says:

Don’t worry, these numbers will change as the McCain Stream Media will come to the rescue and continue their 24/7 coverage of Wright.

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P.D. Says: