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“Sometimes Paranoia’s Just Having all the Facts”

And Larisa & Co. at RawStory have dug up a lot of them.

For instance, did you know that the home of former Democratic Governor Don ‘all roads lead to Rove‘ Siegelman has been broken into twice? Or that his attorney’s office was too, and that the whistleblower’s home was burned down and her car forced off the road? And that’s not the half of it. Could it be that being the target of an investigation by US attorneys in Alabama and Mississippi could increase the likelihood of becoming a victim of such crimes somehow?

Of course, all of the crimes remain unsolved thus far. Go figure.




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L.A. Confidential Says:

Siegelman has studied martial arts for decades and holds a black belt in Kyokushin-style karate.

So no doubt these snoops, perverts and knuckle-draggers carrying on the tradition of tricky dick nixon wait till he’s away from all these places to do their “dirty work”.

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I Like Pie Says:

Don’t you think this guy would make a great FBI director or Attorney General. Especially considering, the huge grudge he must hold against these Neocons.

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Biff Limbaugh Says:

worthy of a banana republic.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

I Like Pie @ 2:

Don’t you think this guy would make a great FBI director or Attorney General. Especially considering, the huge grudge he must hold against these Neocons.

The Great Chicken Hawk Roundup. Boy would that ever make great evening news.

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Ron Says:

It will be justice served when these repugnants are exposed and convicted. That is, if we will still have justice in this country.

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Rebel Patriot Says:

You might even commit suicide after you made numerous public and recorded pronouncements that you wouldn’t.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

Rebel Patriot @ 6:

You might even commit suicide after you made numerous public and recorded pronouncements that you wouldn’t.

Also see:

Feds Seek To Gag D.C. Madam
http://tinyurl.com/2suzax

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Kuparuk Says:

Paranoia is the irrational fear that everyone is out to get you.

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Orangutan. Says:

Thanks Bill W. If the media doesn’t report on this, these crimes will go on and we will all suffer for the lack of justice in this country. I appreciate the education.

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BennyP Says:

Do you expect war criminals NOT to do all this and more?

None of us are safe as long as BushCo exists on the outside of prison.

Do the right thing- IMPEACH and CONVICT these murdering thugs.

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DHSmd Says:

I Like Pie @ 2:

Don’t you think this guy would make a great FBI director or Attorney General. Especially considering, the huge grudge he must hold against these Neocons.

Yes He Can!

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erick Says:

I’m surprised Siegelman hasn’t committed ’suicide’ yet.

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♠Bangkok-Bob♠ Says:

L.A. Confidential @ 4:

I Like Pie @ 2:

Don’t you think this guy would make a great FBI director or Attorney General. Especially considering, the huge grudge he must hold against these Neocons.

The Great Chicken Hawk Roundup. Boy would that ever make great evening news.

Great Idea Pie, How can we get a movement going to let whichever Dem wins (if in fact they do) to put him in to clean up the mess. I really think something like this can get legs or even wings. Lets start the rumor and hope it becomes fact.

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General_Rennenkampf Says:

Why are there no Woodward and Bernstein figures in the modern MSM (the two themselves would be great, come to think of it) to cause Watergate, Redux and bring this administration down? Why?

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Rebel Patriot Says:

Horse in Kentucky derby, the lone filly, and the one that Sen Clinton was rooting for, broke two ankles, finished second in race.

Horse was immediately euthanized.

The tragic filly lost to a horse called Big Brown.

Terrible irony.

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milquetoast Says:

[Deleted. Off topic. Despite the headline of the OP, every indicator in the OP scream that the topic is the Siegelman case. Milquetoast, we don’t do it because we don’t want to deal with flamewars that consume MANY 500 comment threads and keep us from talking about anything else. Site Monitor]

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dadams Says:

this is the kind of crimes against victums that the real
criminals rove, bush and cheney would use to cover up
their actions. fuck this bush administration

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Rebel Patriot Says:

General_Rennenkampf @ 14:

Why are there no Woodward and Bernstein figures in the modern MSM (the two themselves would be great, come to think of it) to cause Watergate, Redux and bring this administration down? Why?

because we no longer have a free MSM. Its all corporate or state propaganda. Operation Mockingbird on steroids.

deceased CIA Director Colby even admitted as much when he, and I’m paraphrasing, said that anyone of any importance in the media is under the thumb of the CIA.

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ferrofluid Says:

[Deleted. Off topic. Site Monitor]

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Rebel Patriot Says:

[Deleted. Off topic. Site Monitor]

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ferrofluid Says:

[Deleted. Off topic. Site Monitor]

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General_Rennenkampf Says:

Rebel Patriot @ 18:

General_Rennenkampf @ 14:

Why are there no Woodward and Bernstein figures in the modern MSM (the two themselves would be great, come to think of it) to cause Watergate, Redux and bring this administration down? Why?

because we no longer have a free MSM. Its all corporate or state propaganda. Operation Mockingbird on steroids.

deceased CIA Director Colby even admitted as much when he, and I’m paraphrasing, said that anyone of any importance in the media is under the thumb of the CIA.

Wha? Really? Damn, so this is like what the old USSR was, only more subtle.

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marie Says:

Orangutan. @ 9:

Thanks Bill W. If the media doesn’t report on this, these crimes will go on and we will all suffer for the lack of justice in this country. I appreciate the education.

The media is far too busy giving us week after week of wall-to-wall Rev. Wright coverage. Only Dan Abrams seems able to find some time to cover this.

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ferrofluid Says:

General_Rennenkampf @ 20:

Rebel Patriot @ 18:

General_Rennenkampf @ 14:

Why are there no Woodward and Bernstein figures in the modern MSM (the two themselves would be great, come to think of it) to cause Watergate, Redux and bring this administration down? Why?

because we no longer have a free MSM. Its all corporate or state propaganda. Operation Mockingbird on steroids.

deceased CIA Director Colby even admitted as much when he, and I’m paraphrasing, said that anyone of any importance in the media is under the thumb of the CIA.

Wha? Really? Damn, so this is like what the old USSR was, only more subtle.

I would hazard a guess we are in the 70s phase of the old CCCP, no mass arrests or deportations to Gulags for citizens but the not so subtle velvet iron fist and heavy handed for non citizens.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

General_Rennenkampf @ 14:

Why are there no Woodward and Bernstein figures in the modern MSM (the two themselves would be great, come to think of it) to cause Watergate, Redux and bring this administration down? Why?

MTV took over

27
Don Says:

I know who did it…..the wackos who keep sending those bogus e-mails of all the people that the Clintons have “bumped off”….right down their alley.

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ferrofluid Says:

ferrofluid @ 25:

General_Rennenkampf @ 20:

Rebel Patriot @ 18:

General_Rennenkampf @ 14:

because we no longer have a free MSM. Its all corporate or state propaganda. Operation Mockingbird on steroids.

deceased CIA Director Colby even admitted as much when he, and I’m paraphrasing, said that anyone of any importance in the media is under the thumb of the CIA.

Wha? Really? Damn, so this is like what the old USSR was, only more subtle.

I would hazard a guess we are in the 70s phase of the old CCCP, no mass arrests or deportations to Gulags for citizens but the not so subtle velvet iron fist and heavy handed for non citizens.

And of course the schizophrenia of RW xtian MSM morals coupled almost porn on cable MSM Tv shows.

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Ruthless People Says:

Hasn’t been an open thread in a while so I’ll post this here.

The Pro war - pro Bush AP reports: “US takes out militant holdout in Baghdad” http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....mi_ea/iraq Seems when you read the article it seems more like civilians were taken out but don’t expect the headline to reflect that truth.

Also not the video link in the upper right hand corner “United States and Turkey bomb Iraq”.
We’re all in this together folks, the coalition of the two!

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Rebel Patriot Says:

Rebel Patriot @ 21:

[Deleted. Off topic. Site Monitor]

[We’ve learned over the years that if we allow the discussion we end up with great, horrible flamewars. We’re not going to allow that to happen again. Site Monitor]

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L.A. Confidential Says:

ferrofluid @ 25:

I would hazard a guess we are in the 70s phase of the old CCCP, no mass arrests or deportations to Gulags for citizens but the not so subtle velvet iron fist and heavy handed for non citizens.

In techno-totalitarian America our homes, workplaces and offices are the Gulag.

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General_Rennenkampf Says:

ferrofluid @ 25:

General_Rennenkampf @ 20:

Rebel Patriot @ 18:

General_Rennenkampf @ 14:

because we no longer have a free MSM. Its all corporate or state propaganda. Operation Mockingbird on steroids.

deceased CIA Director Colby even admitted as much when he, and I’m paraphrasing, said that anyone of any importance in the media is under the thumb of the CIA.

Wha? Really? Damn, so this is like what the old USSR was, only more subtle.

I would hazard a guess we are in the 70s phase of the old CCCP, no mass arrests or deportations to Gulags for citizens but the not so subtle velvet iron fist and heavy handed for non citizens.

I dunno, seems more like the Malenkov era to me. Bush is too stupid even to be a Brezhnev figure. At least Brezhnev actually could run the USSR. Bush is Malenkov, a temporarily nice figure, who was replaced by Nikita Kruschev. I would guess that McPapen will be Kruschev, if this analogy is accurate. God help us when our Gorbachev comes along…

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General_Rennenkampf Says:

L.A. Confidential @ 26:

General_Rennenkampf @ 14:

Why are there no Woodward and Bernstein figures in the modern MSM (the two themselves would be great, come to think of it) to cause Watergate, Redux and bring this administration down? Why?

MTV took over

You mean American Idol.

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ferrofluid Says:

The ‘Quatermass Conclusion’ , Max Headroom, and Robocop with their futurist TV showed a glimpse of what we have now.
Having not bothered to watch much entertainment TV over the last 15 or so years, its quite a shock to see the style of some of the almost porn titillation TV shows these days.

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fastfeat Says:

Rove probably just loaned Siegelman’s house out to some of his Bubba’s for a Klan meeting.

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Rebel Patriot Says:

L.A. Confidential @ 31:

ferrofluid @ 25:

I would hazard a guess we are in the 70s phase of the old CCCP, no mass arrests or deportations to Gulags for citizens but the not so subtle velvet iron fist and heavy handed for non citizens.

In techno-totalitarian America our homes, workplaces and offices are the Gulag.

just as the citizens of Oceania were prisoners in their own homes, their own jobs. They only went to reeducation or to room 101 when they were in real trouble.

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ferrofluid Says:

L.A. Confidential @ 31:

ferrofluid @ 25:

I would hazard a guess we are in the 70s phase of the old CCCP, no mass arrests or deportations to Gulags for citizens but the not so subtle velvet iron fist and heavy handed for non citizens.

In techno-totalitarian America our homes, workplaces and offices are the Gulag.

Very true, scare everybody to abandon the streets, and keep people in crap jobs and scared to leave for fear of the unknown.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

General_Rennenkampf @ 33:

L.A. Confidential @ 26:

General_Rennenkampf @ 14:

Why are there no Woodward and Bernstein figures in the modern MSM (the two themselves would be great, come to think of it) to cause Watergate, Redux and bring this administration down? Why?

MTV took over

You mean American Idol.

MTV had to destroy attentions spans first. Then the mind could be filled with anything.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

ferrofluid @ 37:

Very true, scare everybody to abandon the streets, and keep people in crap jobs and scared to leave for fear of the unknown.

FEAR is the mind killer.

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ferrofluid Says:

L.A. Confidential @ 38:

General_Rennenkampf @ 33:

L.A. Confidential @ 26:

General_Rennenkampf @ 14:

MTV took over

You mean American Idol.

MTV had to destroy attentions spans first. Then the mind could be filled with anything.

I hate with a passion modern TV video editing style, two or three second clips and flashing graphics.

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ferrofluid Says:

ferrofluid @ 40:

L.A. Confidential @ 38:

General_Rennenkampf @ 33:

L.A. Confidential @ 26:

You mean American Idol.

MTV had to destroy attentions spans first. Then the mind could be filled with anything.

I hate with a passion modern TV video editing style, two or three second clips and flashing graphics.

Its watchable but fatiguing, do they really expect people to drink or sedate themselves to make this garbage barely watchable !

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milquetoast Says:

milquetoast @ 16:

[Deleted. Off topic. Despite the headline of the OP, every indicator in the OP scream that the topic is the Siegelman case. Milquetoast, we don’t do it because we don’t want to deal with flamewars that consume MANY 500 comment threads and keep us from talking about anything else. Site Monitor]

OK, very well then I promise I wont double dare you! (and I appreciate your answer…it was better than just being [deleted. off topic]

[Appreciations back at ya! Site Monitor]

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L.A. Confidential Says:

ferrofluid @ 40:

I hate with a passion modern TV video editing style, two or three second clips and flashing graphics.

It’s truly annoying. What I find worst is concert clips where they constantly go back and forth between the performer and the fans.

I want to watch the artist. Not a bunch of fans making idiots out of themselves.

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Leaveus Says:

Look up Judi Berri’s case or ‘Red Wood Summer’…

She was an organizing against logging old growth trees…
FBI gave a ‘car bombing’ symposium for any local police to attend ON PROPERRTY OWNED BY MAXOM LUMBER. Very few attended.

2 weeks later her car blows up as she drove down the street with her boy friend.
She was arrested for the bombing, all her privacy was breached by the FBI as she lay arrested in a hospitol bed. She sued in federal court a year after all charges were dropped and won (postumusly) over 8 million bucks.
So political crime perpitrated by ‘the state’ is not new. May 1st comemorates murder of protestors (and cops) by the cops where more protesters were charged and hung - Leaving the real ‘evil doers’ in hidding. So it is a standard issue tool of thiers. Look at all the attempts on Kings life before the one that suceeded…All under the close scrutiny of the FBI.

The things we have to do to protect ourselves from terrorism - The terrorists who hated our freedom took office in 2000 I am afraid.

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Orangutan. Says:

General_Rennenkampf @ 14:

Why are there no Woodward and Bernstein figures in the modern MSM (the two themselves would be great, come to think of it) to cause Watergate, Redux and bring this administration down? Why?

Don’t forget the significance of “Deep Throat

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General_Rennenkampf Says:

Orangutan. @ 45:

General_Rennenkampf @ 14:

Why are there no Woodward and Bernstein figures in the modern MSM (the two themselves would be great, come to think of it) to cause Watergate, Redux and bring this administration down? Why?

Don’t forget the significance of “Deep Throat

True. But then, why are there no men or women of that character in this administration? Watergate wasn’t that far in the past and a lot of the same people were involved….

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Abbybwood Says:

General_Rennenkampf @ 14:

Why are there no Woodward and Bernstein figures in the modern MSM (the two themselves would be great, come to think of it) to cause Watergate, Redux and bring this administration down? Why?

Because all the journalists have sold out so they can go to all the hot cocktail parties on K Street with the enemy and keep their “access”. They are sleeping with and fucking the enemy. They are sellouts and cowards. They are all un-American a-holes (except for Helen Thomas) who have forgotten their “job descriptions” (according to the standards of average, Americans who actually still give a flying F about the TRUTH).

Does that answer your question?

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Geoff Says:

Looks like we may need citizen’s actions to protect these people. Like the Mississippi Freedom Summer in ‘65. Just get those college kids in their cars and have ‘em spend their summer vacation protecting non-assholes in Alabama, which, given that Siegelman was elected, could be more than half of them Alabamans.