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Indiana anti-voter Law produces first casualties: Indiana Nuns in their 80’s and 90’s

Here’s your first case of voter disenfranchisement from Indiana’s new draconian anti-voter law.

Judge Roberts must be so proud:

About 12 Indiana nuns were turned away Tuesday from a polling place by a fellow bride of Christ because they didn’t have state or federal identification bearing a photograph.

Sister Julie McGuire said she was forced to turn away her fellow sisters at Saint Mary’s Convent in South Bend, across the street from the University of Notre Dame, because they had been told earlier that they would need such an ID to vote.

The nuns, all in their 80s or 90s, didn’t get one but came to the precinct anyway.

“One came down this morning, and she was 98, and she said, ‘I don’t want to go do that,’” Sister McGuire said. Some showed up with outdated passports. None of them drives.

They weren’t given provisional ballots because it would be impossible to get them to a motor vehicle branch and back in the 10-day time frame allotted by the law, Sister McGuire said. “You have to remember that some of these ladies don’t walk well. They’re in wheelchairs or on walkers or electric carts.”

Nonetheless, she said, the convent will make a “very concerted effort” to get proper identification for the nuns in time for the general election. “We’re going to take from now until November to get them out and get this done. You can’t do this like school kids on a bus,” she said. “I wish we could.”

It breaks my heart.




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140 Responses for “Indiana anti-voter Law produces first casualties: Indiana Nuns in their 80’s and 90’s”
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gB Says:

Election system sucks

2
Joshej Says:

More info about what’s going on in Indiana over at Blackboxvoting.org. Bev Harris is watching the circus quite carefully.

3
JohnnyBravo Says:

They thought those nuns a lesson. Mission Accomplished! :-(

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below_me Says:

voter id = poll tax.

make the state provide id’s. want id’s? give them out.

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slippy hussein toad Says:

The Roberts Court have a lot to be proud of. Just like the Inquisition had a lot to be proud of.

I’ve never been so disgusted with, or disrespectful of, our government as I have with these fucking clowns.

6
enor Says:

Voter fraud with voters has never been an issue. This is a scam by the Repugs of

the greatest magnitude to keep more poor (READ: DEM’s) from voting at all.

7
Blue Lensman Says:

Had they been poor elderly black folks, would this story have been picked up by the AP?

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dadams Says:

knowing the gop and their fucking tactics,
they will find some way to disenfranchise
all democrats by general election in nov.
or try to.

9
Jaycubed Says:

What does it matter, anyway?

Most likely they would have just voted for “Nun Of The Above”.

10
Sue Says:

thanks Roberts…honestly you have carried it too far Indiana..my state…sigh

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Old Billy Hussein Says:

Terrist nuns stealing illegal immigrant ‘lections.

How about a “right to vote” amendment?

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Old Billy Hussein Says:

Jaycubed @ 9:

What does it matter, anyway?

Most likely they would have just voted for “Nun Of The Above”.

Awesome. Thanks.

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Karen Says:

dadams @ 8:

knowing the gop and their fucking tactics,
they will find some way to disenfranchise
all democrats by general election in nov.
or try to.

This sorry and easily misunderstood law will go down in history like the rest in America’s proud tradition of voter suppression, right alongside literacy tests, white primaries and poll taxes.

“Well, they’re all liberals. So screw ‘em.” Karl Rove

Blue Lensman @ 7:

Had they been poor elderly black folks, would this story have been picked up by the AP?

Yes. And I’ll bet there was someone else who was assumed to be the first voter casualty. Maybe it was the black mother of three. Maybe it was a freshly minted citizen who didn’t have the correct paperwork.

This was going to be a story, no matter whom it effected first.

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linda Says:

they were likely democrats.

roberts and nino are toasting one another tonite for a job well done.

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gwg Says:

This was probably the plan all along; after all, these nuns are old enough to remember the days Catholic=Democrat. If this got more press along with more on Hagee, I think the GOP would lose the Catholic vote once again.

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koko Says:

My favorite part of the article:

Indiana’s photo ID law is the strictest in the country. The Republican-led effort was designed to combat ballot fraud, said supporters, who also have acknowledged that no case involving someone impersonating a voter at the polls has ever been prosecuted in Indiana.

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Karen Says:

Old Billy Hussein @ 11:

Terrist nuns stealing illegal immigrant ‘lections.

How about a “right to vote” amendment?

Indeed. People don’t realize that the Constitution does not explicitly enumerate the right to vote for anyone. The amendments that mention the right to vote do so only in a series of Thou Shalt Nots, proscribing certain reasons a state may not use to withhold the right to vote from people. Other than that, the states get to set all the rules and regulations.

What we need to do as well is actually define the right to vote, which neither our statutes nor our jurisprudence actually does.

I would argue that if just powers are rightly derived from the consent of the governed, then each person has the right to consent to her personal representation. Each of us commands a certain portion of governmental power, and as long as we’re of the age of consent, we have the right to enter into a consensual contract to transfer our portion of power to a representative of our choice, who will vote in the legislature on our behalf.

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Alice (formerly Hussein, live free of the Borg or die) Says:

There, ladies and gentlemen, is the fine handiwork of our illustrious Supreme Court.

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Old Billy Hussein Says:

koko @ 18:

My favorite part of the article:

Indiana’s photo ID law is the strictest in the country. The Republican-led effort was designed to combat ballot fraud, said supporters, who also have acknowledged that no case involving someone impersonating a voter at the polls has ever been prosecuted in Indiana.

It’s an entirely hypothetical crime. Hasn’t even been alleged ever.

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linda Says:

Alice (formerly Hussein, live free of the Borg or die) @ 20:

There, ladies and gentlemen, is the fine handiwork of our illustrious Supreme Court.

and john mccain promises to nominate others in the mould of john roberts and antonin scalia..

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slippy hussein toad Says:

Old Billy Hussein @ 11:

Terrist nuns stealing illegal immigrant ‘lections.

How about a “right to vote” amendment?

It should read thus:

No free citizen shall be denied suffrage

That’s it. No ifs, ands, or buts. No conditions. No terms. No horseshit. If you are free, and a U.S. citizen, you can vote. Period.

koko @ 18:

My favorite part of the article:

Indiana’s photo ID law is the strictest in the country. The Republican-led effort was designed to combat ballot fraud, said supporters, who also have acknowledged that no case involving someone impersonating a voter at the polls has ever been prosecuted in Indiana.

Isn’t this logic a corollary of “fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them here”?

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Karen Says:

Alice (formerly Hussein, live free of the Borg or die) @ 20:

There, ladies and gentlemen, is the fine handiwork of our illustrious Supreme Court.

And just think, if John W. McSame takes up residence in the White House, he’ll replace Stevens and Ginsburg with two more judges whose philosophies will place Anthony Kennedy firmly on the Court’s left wing.

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Arand Says:

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27
L.A. Confidential Says:

So what they think the sisters were aliens from outer space or something because they didn’t have ID?

28
Douglas Says:

It’s time to threaten all of congress with treason charges if they fail to impeach and remove Scalia, Thomas, and Kennedy for their attack on the electoral process in the 2000 election. These three justices (+O’Connor and Rehnquist) were agents of George W. Bush and Richard B Cheney who are now enemies of the United States. Scalia, Thomas and Kennedy violated the 14th Amendment. If they want to take our rights using spurious claims of protecting the Constitution then we must take them down using that very Constitution.

ps: We have to compell Congress to remove Bush and Cheney, as well, using the same threat.

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Karen Says:

Arand @ 26:
[First step of troll-fighting: Don’t feed them. When you feed them your first step is the wrong step. You find yourself suddenly off topic. That’s what they want. Thank You. Site Monitor]

30
Rico Says:

I suppose it’s time to ask for international inspectors and monitors of U.S. elections to ensure freeness and fairness. After all, don’t most other third world countries get provided this service?

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Karen Says:

Douglas @ 28:

It’s time to threaten all of congress with treason charges if they fail to impeach and remove Scalia, Thomas, and Kennedy for their attack on the electoral process in the 2000 election. These three justices (+O’Connor and Rehnquist) were agents of George W. Bush and Richard B Cheney who are now enemies of the United States. Scalia, Thomas and Kennedy violated the 14th Amendment. If they want to take our rights using spurious claims of protecting the Constitution then we must take them down using that very Constitution.

ps: We have to compell Congress to remove Bush and Cheney, as well, using the same threat.

Any ideas on how to give the threat any teeth?

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L.A. Confidential Says:

Rico @ 30:

I suppose it’s time to ask for international inspectors and monitors of U.S. elections to ensure freeness and fairness. After all, don’t most other third world countries get provided this service?

Third World countries are on the way up. Were on the way down.

33
Liberoservative Says:

I guess that I will get flamed… but Indiana’s voter identification requirements has been in place for awhile… since 2005
“Under the bill, most voters would have to show a photo ID issued by the federal or state government, such as a military ID or driver’s liense. People who do not have a driver’s license and cannot afford to pay for a state-issued photo ID will be issued one for free.”
So it is not like it is a new thing…. I, actually, think that it is a good thing. If you are a registered voter then you should have to prove yourself. We talk of the bad voting practices of the parties. This stops it. We have to show Identification to cash a check to use a credit card and to board a plane… I see no problem in having to show identification to cast a vote.

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Peter G Says:

Arand @ 26:
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General_Rennenkampf Says:

Arand @ 26:
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36
Bushie Says:

The Supremes stated that one cannot sue if one isn’t yet affected, though one may pass laws even if no problem exists, shows how radical the Roberts Court truly is! Perfect timing, yet again, for an important election cycle.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

The Clinton Obama Marathon continues.

38
L.A. Confidential Says:

So this Nun who betrayed her sisters. She a McCain supporter?

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General_Rennenkampf Says:

Remember that 1% of the population is disfranchised due to the prison laws. We won’t be heading the Nazi way, I think. We seem to be going into Sparta, Part II, only our leaders are much, much stupider than the Hellenes.

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I Like Pie Says:

Joshej @ 2:

More info about what’s going on in Indiana over at Blackboxvoting.org. Bev Harris is watching the circus quite carefully.

Bev called it right on the money when she noticed that the voter list purge in Indiana was directed at African Americans. The piece of the puzzle that she didn’t pick up on is the White districts with the purges. All the White districts with huge purges have abnormally high numbers of 18 to 39 year olds. The 18 to 39 year old crowd supports Obama. Hillary gets most of her support from the geritol voters.

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General_Rennenkampf Says:

I Like Pie @ 36:

Joshej @ 2:

More info about what’s going on in Indiana over at Blackboxvoting.org. Bev Harris is watching the circus quite carefully.

Bev called it right on the money when she noticed that the voter list purge in Indiana was directed at African Americans. The piece of the puzzle that she didn’t pick up on is the White districts with the purges. All the White districts with huge purges have abnormally high numbers of 18 to 39 year olds. The 18 to 39 year old crowd supports Obama. Hillary gets most of her support from the geritol voters.

So, the Black Codes rise again. That has me curious what’s happening here in the South, with the highest portions of blacks in the nation….

42
Karen Says:

slippy hussein toad @ 23:

Old Billy Hussein @ 11:

Terrist nuns stealing illegal immigrant ‘lections.

How about a “right to vote” amendment?

It should read thus:

No free citizen shall be denied suffrage

That’s it. No ifs, ands, or buts. No conditions. No terms. No horseshit. If you are free, and a U.S. citizen, you can vote. Period.

How about:

Each and every person of the age of consent who is governed by the laws of a state or the United States shall enjoy the right to vote in any election for officers who shall write or enforce those laws. Neither the federal government nor any state shall deny, abridge or otherwise dilute the right to vote.

43
fiver Says:

And people thought this right wing law would hurt Obama and help Clinton. Overall it certainly will. But a few of Clinton’s core constituency (poorly educated white women who watch lots of TV), might not have a driver’s license. But that’s ok, squashing the voting rights of a few nuns will be worth it as long as Hillary wins…. it’s her turn after all.

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L.A. Confidential Says:

General_Rennenkampf @ 39:

Remember that 1% of the population is disfranchised due to the prison laws. We won’t be heading the Nazi way, I think. We seem to be going into Sparta, Part II, only our leaders are much, much stupider than the Hellenes.

The real sh*t is going to hit the fan when china and other former underdeveloped countries become rabid out of control materialists like we’ve been.

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Jack45 Says:

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General_Rennenkampf Says:

fiver @ 43:

And people thought this right wing law would hurt Obama and help Clinton. Overall it certainly will. But a few of Clinton’s core constituency (poorly educated white women who watch lots of TV), might not have a driver’s license. But that’s ok, squashing the voting rights of a few nuns will be worth it as long as Hillary wins…. it’s her turn after all.

Jesus, dude, Hillary’s not the Antichrist!

And Obama and Hillary both suck, equally IMHO, and both are better than John McCain, equally.

47
Old Billy Hussein Says:

The Constitution has these amendments regarding voting rights:

Amendment 15: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Amendment 19: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any States on account of sex.

Amendment 24: The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.

Amendment 26: The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.

This case was wrongly decided, but the only recourse is amendment - I don’t know how it could be more clear.

48
ysbaddaden Says:

How can you stop nuns from voting?

They carry those yardsticks and know how to use them.

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Karen Says:

General_Rennenkampf @ 41:

I Like Pie @ 36:

Joshej @ 2:

More info about what’s going on in Indiana over at Blackboxvoting.org. Bev Harris is watching the circus quite carefully.

Bev called it right on the money when she noticed that the voter list purge in Indiana was directed at African Americans. The piece of the puzzle that she didn’t pick up on is the White districts with the purges. All the White districts with huge purges have abnormally high numbers of 18 to 39 year olds. The 18 to 39 year old crowd supports Obama. Hillary gets most of her support from the geritol voters.

So, the Black Codes rise again. That has me curious what’s happening here in the South, with the highest portions of blacks in the nation….

The same thing that’s happening across the nation: ensuring that they are convicted of minor, but nevertheless felonious, drugs crimes, thereby legally disenfranchising enough of them.

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Arand Says:

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